Bubble Watch 2-27

[catsfan20052006]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=70&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1

Work left to do:

Kansas State [17-9 (8-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 17] K-State couldn't get it done at home against Texas on Monday night and now is staring down the barrel of an irritated Kansas team this weekend. If the Wildcats can't win in Lawrence, there is an enormous amount of pressure on the last two (Colorado, at Iowa State). Even at 10-6, K-State may need to win a game in the Big 12 tourney to make sure it avoids a fate similar to last season's, when that league mark wasn't good enough. It will depend on the landscape around the Wildcats come Championship Week. Right now, they are being helped by their league standing and not helped by the number of losses they have to teams that probably won't make the NCAAs. Having a win over Kansas never hurts, but a win over Cal is the best thing on a nonconference résumé that includes losses to George Mason, Notre Dame, Oregon and Xavier.

[greatjhawk]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=70&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1

Work left to do:

Kansas State [17-9 (8-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 17] K-State couldn't get it done at home against Texas on Monday night and now is staring down the barrel of an irritated Kansas team this weekend. If the Wildcats can't win in Lawrence, there is an enormous amount of pressure on the last two (Colorado, at Iowa State). Even at 10-6, K-State may need to win a game in the Big 12 tourney to make sure it avoids a fate similar to last season's, when that league mark wasn't good enough. It will depend on the landscape around the Wildcats come Championship Week. Right now, they are being helped by their league standing and not helped by the number of losses they have to teams that probably won't make the NCAAs. Having a win over Kansas never hurts, but a win over Cal is the best thing on a nonconference résumé that includes losses to George Mason, Notre Dame, Oregon and Xavier.

Don't worry, the only way K-St. misses the tourney this year is if they lose out.  Win 1 and you are good.

While you would deserve it anyways you have 2 other things going for you:
1. You got screwed last year.
2. Beasley is too big of a drawing card.

And while they (the committee) act like they never try to make matchups based off TV ratings, If K-St. wins 2 or 3 more, don't be surprised that they are seeded to try to give a possible matchup against UNC in the 2nd round.

[kst8frombirth]

Don't worry, the only way K-St. misses the tourney this year is if they lose out.  Win 1 and you are good.

While you would deserve it anyways you have 2 other things going for you:
1. You got screwed last year.
2. Beasley is too big of a drawing card.

And while they (the committee) act like they never try to make matchups based off TV ratings, If K-St. wins 2 or 3 more, don't be surprised that they are seeded to try to give a possible matchup against UNC in the 2nd round.

That would be crazy!  B.Easy could finally end this stupid argument between him and psycho t once and for all.  i agree that all we need is one or two more wins to get in.  i dont see us finishing less than 4th place in the Big XII, and they can't leave us out again.

...right?! 

[blackman-era-front-rower]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=70&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1

Work left to do:

Kansas State [17-9 (8-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 17] K-State couldn't get it done at home against Texas on Monday night and now is staring down the barrel of an irritated Kansas team this weekend. If the Wildcats can't win in Lawrence, there is an enormous amount of pressure on the last two (Colorado, at Iowa State). Even at 10-6, K-State may need to win a game in the Big 12 tourney to make sure it avoids a fate similar to last season's, when that league mark wasn't good enough. It will depend on the landscape around the Wildcats come Championship Week. Right now, they are being helped by their league standing and not helped by the number of losses they have to teams that probably won't make the NCAAs. Having a win over Kansas never hurts, but a win over Cal is the best thing on a nonconference résumé that includes losses to George Mason, Notre Dame, Oregon and Xavier.

Don't worry, the only way K-St. misses the tourney this year is if they lose out.  Win 1 and you are good.

While you would deserve it anyways you have 2 other things going for you:
1. You got screwed last year.
2. Beasley is too big of a drawing card.

And while they (the committee) act like they never try to make matchups based off TV ratings, If K-St. wins 2 or 3 more, don't be surprised that they are seeded to try to give a possible matchup against UNC in the 2nd round.

wish i shared "gratejhawks" confidence, but i don't think even 2-1 and a win in the big12 tourney makes it rock-solid... what would our finish be then, 6-7 in the last month or so?  very, very shaky (but then considering his name, 'gratejhawk' might be feeding us the nyquil anyway)
 

[Super PurpleCat]

It's going to be close.

[catzacker]

We have to go 2-1 the rest of the way and I think that should do it.  That would put us at 10-6 and in 3rd place in the conference (if Baylor doesn't win out).  I don't care that they say they don't look at conference finish, if the conference finish is 1-ut, 2-ku, 3-ksu, 4-bu, 5-a&M, there is no way in hell the committee would (a) only take 3 from the Big12 (and the 3 being ut, ku, bu) and (b) there's no way they take 4 without it including KSU (at least this year).  Go 2-1 and we're in....go 1-2 and we have to win a game or two in the Big 12 tourney.

[ksu_FAN]

We have to go 2-1 the rest of the way and I think that should do it.  That would put us at 10-6 and in 3rd place in the conference (if Baylor doesn't win out).  I don't care that they say they don't look at conference finish, if the conference finish is 1-ut, 2-ku, 3-ksu, 4-bu, 5-a&M, there is no way in hell the committee would (a) only take 3 from the Big12 (and the 3 being ut, ku, bu) and (b) there's no way they take 4 without it including KSU (at least this year).  Go 2-1 and we're in....go 1-2 and we have to win a game or two in the Big 12 tourney.

Agreed.  Win the final 2 and we're pretty safe.  Our SOS is going to be very good and we have the marquee win over ku.  The only worry is we're going to have a pretty bad last 12 (they say the committee uses 12 instead of 10).  It would be good to win one in KC as well. 

Frankly, the only other team I'd rather play on the road than ISU to have to win is CU.  Definately the worst 2 teams in the league.  Maybe MU, but they are more talented overall and a tougher match-up than ISU.

[lynchmb1029]

We have 4 gauranteed games left. 3 should be W's (cu, isu and first round tourney) which would give us a shot at a 5th game. If we go 3-1 in the four games left, no way we are left out. Win 2 games in the big12 tourney, we are a tight lock. Beat ku again, tighter lock.

It's all in the teams hands. They know it, we know it.

Things we have going for us:

Media REALLY wants to see MB in the tourney which means the committee will too.

We will have to play ourselves out of 3rd place. When was the last time the 3rd place big12 team didn't make it?

[greatjhawk]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch?id=70&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1

Work left to do:

Kansas State [17-9 (8-5), RPI: 42, SOS: 17] K-State couldn't get it done at home against Texas on Monday night and now is staring down the barrel of an irritated Kansas team this weekend. If the Wildcats can't win in Lawrence, there is an enormous amount of pressure on the last two (Colorado, at Iowa State). Even at 10-6, K-State may need to win a game in the Big 12 tourney to make sure it avoids a fate similar to last season's, when that league mark wasn't good enough. It will depend on the landscape around the Wildcats come Championship Week. Right now, they are being helped by their league standing and not helped by the number of losses they have to teams that probably won't make the NCAAs. Having a win over Kansas never hurts, but a win over Cal is the best thing on a nonconference résumé that includes losses to George Mason, Notre Dame, Oregon and Xavier.

Don't worry, the only way K-St. misses the tourney this year is if they lose out.  Win 1 and you are good.

While you would deserve it anyways you have 2 other things going for you:
1. You got screwed last year.
2. Beasley is too big of a drawing card.

And while they (the committee) act like they never try to make matchups based off TV ratings, If K-St. wins 2 or 3 more, don't be surprised that they are seeded to try to give a possible matchup against UNC in the 2nd round.

wish i shared "gratejhawks" confidence, but i don't think even 2-1 and a win in the big12 tourney makes it rock-solid... what would our finish be then, 6-7 in the last month or so?  very, very shaky (but then considering his name, 'gratejhawk' might be feeding us the nyquil anyway)
 

Still say one win is all you need.  Big 12 is considered with more respect this year and 9-7 in the conference seals it.

I understand the pessimism with the recent woes and because you got screwed last year.  Won't happen this year.

And if I was going to feed you anything, it wouldn't be nyquil, that might make you feel good and ease the pain, i would feed you Ex-Lax or cyanide. 

[catzacker]

We have to go 2-1 the rest of the way and I think that should do it.  That would put us at 10-6 and in 3rd place in the conference (if Baylor doesn't win out).  I don't care that they say they don't look at conference finish, if the conference finish is 1-ut, 2-ku, 3-ksu, 4-bu, 5-a&M, there is no way in hell the committee would (a) only take 3 from the Big12 (and the 3 being ut, ku, bu) and (b) there's no way they take 4 without it including KSU (at least this year).  Go 2-1 and we're in....go 1-2 and we have to win a game or two in the Big 12 tourney.

Agreed.  Win the final 2 and we're pretty safe.  Our SOS is going to be very good and we have the marquee win over ku.  The only worry is we're going to have a pretty bad last 12 (they say the committee uses 12 instead of 10).  It would be good to win one in KC as well. 

Frankly, the only other team I'd rather play on the road than ISU to have to win is CU.  Definately the worst 2 teams in the league.  Maybe MU, but they are more talented overall and a tougher match-up than ISU.

Frank needs to make a deal with McDermott...."we'll give you a sweep next year if you let us win this game". 

While I agree that either ISU or CU would be the preferred game to play on the road, I have no illussions about winning that game (which pisses me off to have to say and is extremely disappointing).  I think we're going to finish 1-2 and get the 4 seed and have to beat either OU or A&M in the B12 tourney to get in. 

[kougar24]

That Andy Glockner (ESPN bubble watch guy) was on 810 this morning, and I've come to the conclusion that he doesn't know wtf he's talking about. Here's why:

He said he "doesn't see less than 4 from the Big XII getting in, and 5 would be the best bet." Then, seconds later, he said "Even at 10-6, K-State might have to do some work in the conference tourney to get a bid."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we go 10-6, aren't we guaranteed 3rd place (tied if Baylor wins out--unlikely)? Does Andy think they'll leapfrog BOTH A&M and Baylor over us? Right.

Still not nervous, at all.

[ksu_FAN]

Interesting thing is that last year everyone talked about our weak schedule and bad losses.  This year our schedule will probably end up top 30, and while we have some losses to some teams that shouldn't have beat us, none are to teams >100 in the RPI right now.  So we should have that going for us, plus we didn't have a marquee win last year and I'd say a top 10 RPI win qualifies.  Again, our biggest knocks will be road record and our last 12, but should we win 2 of our last 3 that shouldn't keep us out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

There is too much basketball to be played.  The bracket gurus make a living by being non-commital and vague with regard to teams seeded lower than 4. 

[kougar24]

I'm just trying to figure out how Glockner's comments are even feasible, let alone somehow not retarded.

I'm trying to give him the ben. of th. dbt.

[catsfan20052006]

Games of importance tonight:

Saint Louis over Saint Joseph's
South Dakota State over Oral Roberts
New Orleans over South Alabama
Arizona over USC
UCLA over Arizona State
Washington State over Cal

[~WabashRoll~]

So, what happens when this team goes 9-7, and finishes 2-8 in their final 10 games to close the season?  Since we've shown no propensity to win on the road even against the worst teams in this league outisde the beginning to conference play, I have no idea why anyone is banking on 10-6.

Just curious. 

[catsfan20052006]

Games of importance tonight:

Saint Louis over Saint Joseph's
South Dakota State over Oral Roberts
New Orleans over South Alabama
Arizona over USC
UCLA over Arizona State
Washington State over Cal

St. Louis won
South Dakota State lost (not the end of the world)
New Orleans lost
Arizona lost
UCLA won
Washington State destroyed Cal

It was a so so night for the Bubble Teams.

Results to watch for on Saturday -

UConn over Wet Vagina
Pittsburgh over Syracuse
Georgia Tech over Wake Forest
George Mason over Northeastern
Alabama over Ole Miss
Texas A&M and Oklahoma (but I'm torn as to what result we're looking for)
La Salle over Rhode Island
Virginia over Miami (FL)
Mississippi State over Florida
Minnesota over Ohio State
Missouri over Baylor
St. John's over Seton Hall
Texas over Texas Tech
Stanford over Washington State (this one isn't as important but it would be nice)
Vanderbilt over Arkansas
USC over Arizona State
Washington over California
East Carolina over Houston
Richmond over UMass
Florida Atlantic over W. Kentucky
Fordham over Dayton
tcu over UNLV
Texas-Arlington over Stephen F. Austin
William & Mary over Virginia Commonwealth
Miami (OH) over Ohio
Georgia Southern over Davidson
Florida International over S. Alabama
Tulane over UAB
North Dakota State over Oral Roberts
Bradley over Creighton
Air Force over BYU

[Jayhawk8]

K-State needs to win 2 regular season games and a conference tourney game to get it.  If they don't do that, I don't see them getting in.  The committee looks at the last 12 games for the team, and K-State hasn't exactly been amazing.

 

[Rick Daris]

Games of importance tonight:

Saint Louis over Saint Joseph's
South Dakota State over Oral Roberts
New Orleans over South Alabama
Arizona over USC
UCLA over Arizona State
Washington State over Cal

St. Louis won
South Dakota State lost (not the end of the world)
New Orleans lost
Arizona lost
UCLA won
Washington State destroyed Cal

It was a so so night for the Bubble Teams.

Results to watch for on Saturday -

UConn over Wet Vagina
Pittsburgh over Syracuse
Georgia Tech over Wake Forest
George Mason over Northeastern
Alabama over Ole Miss
Texas A&M and Oklahoma (but I'm torn as to what result we're looking for)
La Salle over Rhode Island
Virginia over Miami (FL)
Mississippi State over Florida
Minnesota over Ohio State
Missouri over Baylor
St. John's over Seton Hall
Texas over Texas Tech
Stanford over Washington State (this one isn't as important but it would be nice)
Vanderbilt over Arkansas
USC over Arizona State
Washington over California
East Carolina over Houston
Richmond over UMass
Florida Atlantic over W. Kentucky
Fordham over Dayton
tcu over UNLV
Texas-Arlington over Stephen F. Austin
William & Mary over Virginia Commonwealth
Miami (OH) over Ohio
Georgia Southern over Davidson
Florida International over S. Alabama
Tulane over UAB
North Dakota State over Oral Roberts
Bradley over Creighton
Air Force over BYU

That's crap. South Dakota State losing is to the end of the world.