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January 13, 2008, 01:37:05 PM
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I've talked consistently about 3 keys going into Big 12 play, guard play, Walker, and defense.

As has been talked about, all 3 guards played well.  Very good show of each playing their role well, and exactly what we need to keep winning in Big 12 play.  Now if Fred can get healthy (I'm assuming his hand is still a problem) and give us 10 or so MPG and contribute its even better.  14 assists to only 3 TOs from that trio is a nice stat to see, along with the offense and defense they gave us. 

Walker was a great player in the 2nd half after a tough first half while playing with foul trouble.  However, he did a great job offensively setting up OU defenders and showing why he's a great player; a very high BBIQ to go with that explosiveness.  He is learning to pick his spots for his perimeter game and attacking the basket.  Defensively he did a solid job, though I'd like to see him hit the boards a bit more.

Defensively we're going to have to get better, but again Martin continues to be true to playing at a higher pace.  However, unlike the XU game we played enough defense to not let OU ever get away from us.  We just need to realize you're going to have to win games different ways in the Big 12 and not every night are we going to be able to win quite like this, though we'll be able to win like this more than any K-State team of recent memory.  Martin also is staying true to his defensive philosophy of ball pressure and the guys are still learning how to play this way, especially in regard to help defense.  There were plenty of times we had help position but at this point we just aren't quite quick enough in rotating, but that will come.  Nice change of pace to go to the 3-2 and it was nice how well it worked for us while OU's attempt to change to zone backfired.  Not alot of offense boards to be had b/c of the high shooting percentages, but no doubt OU was able to exploit that more than us and really was a major reason they were in the game. 

Basically I'd say we won 2 of the 3 keys and showed that if we do that we can beat solid teams on the road.  Good trend that I hope we can maintain, though I'd like to see us win defense more than we lose it b/c if you do that it improves you're chances of winning in this league IMO.

The other intangible trend we broke was at the FT line; giving up 28 attempts especially with Longar hitting at a much higher %-age could've been very costly, but we were able to overcome it.  Plus we only hit 60% in the 2nd half. 

Great way to start with a win though and the Cats will have an opportunity to start 2-0 in Big 12 play for the first time ever.

January 13, 2008, 01:39:15 PM
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Oops.  Forgot to log off my wife before I posted.

January 13, 2008, 01:40:43 PM
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are we sure "ksu_FANw" isn't john wooden?

a strategy analysis and game dynamics break-down like i've rarely seen! :love:

keep pumping out the paragraphs about each game "ksu_FANw"!

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January 13, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
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Oops.  Forgot to log off my wife before I posted.

Yeah right!  I think someone is trying to pass his wife's HBBIQ off as his own.   :blindfold:

January 13, 2008, 01:45:09 PM
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I heard she's been posting here in his absence.  Word on the street is that ksu_Fan has been grounded by his wife in an attempt for him to actually do some work on the OOD shirts. . .no word yet on when they'll be out.

January 13, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
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January 13, 2008, 01:54:19 PM
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if there isn't an OOD shirt in my mailbox by wednesday, i'm reporting you.

January 13, 2008, 02:01:39 PM
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if there isn't an OOD shirt in my mailbox by wednesday, i'm reporting you.

Can't guarantee Wed.  But the gears are in motion.

Back to the game...

Its nice to come back here after a close game and not talk about how we messed it up at the end or the plays we missed during the game that killed us or that one area that kept us from winning.  Its nice to see the play we made to win it and the key things we did well as a team.  And then have a chance to look objectively at things we can and must improve on to win more games.  We've just had so much losing in close games over the last decade its nice to see a change.

January 13, 2008, 02:20:23 PM
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if there isn't an OOD shirt in my mailbox by wednesday, i'm reporting you.

Can't guarantee Wed.  But the gears are in motion.

Back to the game...

Its nice to come back here after a close game and not talk about how we messed it up at the end or the plays we missed during the game that killed us or that one area that kept us from winning.  Its nice to see the play we made to win it and the key things we did well as a team.  And then have a chance to look objectively at things we can and must improve on to win more games.  We've just had so much losing in close games over the last decade its nice to see a change.

I need one for A&M.  If I went to Threads and made one, would that be okay?  I'm thinking purple and white logo. 


I still want my cooler, bitches!

January 13, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
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if there isn't an OOD shirt in my mailbox by wednesday, i'm reporting you.

Can't guarantee Wed.  But the gears are in motion.

Back to the game...

Its nice to come back here after a close game and not talk about how we messed it up at the end or the plays we missed during the game that killed us or that one area that kept us from winning.  Its nice to see the play we made to win it and the key things we did well as a team.  And then have a chance to look objectively at things we can and must improve on to win more games.  We've just had so much losing in close games over the last decade its nice to see a change.

I need one for A&M.  If I went to Threads and made one, would that be okay?  I'm thinking purple and white logo. 

see, look "Fan." you're messing with people's lives here.  what are you doing? eating licorice and watching the playoffs?  PLAYOFFS?  you can't even make a shirt, let alone watch Playoffs. . .PLAYOFFS??!!?!?!?!?!?!

January 13, 2008, 02:51:53 PM
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On the shirts, I'll quote steve dave, the official spokesman for said shirts.  Again, the gears are in motion and hopefully they'll move very quickly.  I'll do what I can to keep things moving.

OK you SOBs...There are Octagon of Doom shirts on the way.  We will have men's sizes X-Scrawny to XX-Fat. We totally pwnt Fan's idea of "Octagon of Doom" and took it out from under him.  He's been complaining about "trademark" and "my idea" but since he first uttered it here it's OURS!!!!!!  We are totally going to make a s**t load of money off you rubes!!! 

PS.  Fan has been working diligently with MJ & ECN and they are creating a shirt for everyone to purchase at minimal cost.  It will be out soon and the only people to make any "real" money on the thing are going to be the shirt printers.  Sit tight and they will be here soon.  There may be women's sizes as well. 



January 13, 2008, 02:53:37 PM
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On the shirts, I'll quote steve dave, the official spokesman for said shirts.  Again, the gears are in motion and hopefully they'll move very quickly.  I'll do what I can to keep things moving.

OK you SOBs...There are Octagon of Doom shirts on the way.  We will have men's sizes X-Scrawny to XX-Fat. We totally pwnt Fan's idea of "Octagon of Doom" and took it out from under him.  He's been complaining about "trademark" and "my idea" but since he first uttered it here it's OURS!!!!!!  We are totally going to make a s**t load of money off you rubes!!! 

PS.  Fan has been working diligently with MJ & ECN and they are creating a shirt for everyone to purchase at minimal cost.  It will be out soon and the only people to make any "real" money on the thing are going to be the shirt printers.  Sit tight and they will be here soon.  There may be women's sizes as well. 




so what?  the quicker you get to 6k posts, the quicker we get our shirts?

January 13, 2008, 02:56:44 PM
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Since you didn't really answer my question I'm going to threads this week to make my own with your design. 


I still want my cooler, bitches!

January 13, 2008, 02:58:04 PM
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Since you didn't really answer my question I'm going to threads this week to make my own with your design. 

good call, he won't give you an answer for awhile, we all know how he procrastinates things.  :D

January 13, 2008, 04:07:13 PM
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man! ksu_fan's wife knows hoop like no other woman i've ever seen!  :love:

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January 13, 2008, 04:14:39 PM
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if there isn't an OOD shirt in my mailbox by wednesday, i'm reporting you.

Can't guarantee Wed.  But the gears are in motion.

Back to the game...

Its nice to come back here after a close game and not talk about how we messed it up at the end or the plays we missed during the game that killed us or that one area that kept us from winning.  Its nice to see the play we made to win it and the key things we did well as a team.  And then have a chance to look objectively at things we can and must improve on to win more games.  We've just had so much losing in close games over the last decade its nice to see a change.

No crap, I thought we were done with Griffin's late steal.  Other teams in the past would have folded in the last minute and a half.  We did a great job of continuing to play our game.  We never looked panic or rushed with anything.  The last play was a thing of beauty.