sour grapes. Hey Mack, I let my 19 month old and 4 year old throw empty plastic bottles at each other. Why? Because is hurts worse than getting hit by a pillow! What a faggot! I will tell you all something else, with the kind of years we've been having - we rush the field. Hey Mack, you want some security, play in So Cal - the cops there will just start shooting. MFP