Is there any doubt who was the best QB in big 12 history?

[fatty fat fat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYe6cZ3QNQ&mode=related&search=

 

[ew2x4]

We definitely could have used him.

[doom]

Wait a minute...  That's not Dylan Meier!

[PoetWarrior]

Love the music.


P.S.
Snyder taught Vince and Mack that.

[pufizzle]

And to think....I thought we ended his career in 2003 when it looked like we shattered his ankle.  I still have no idea how we was able to come back in to that game.  Unreal.

[The Manhatter]

"there is no doubt" Vince Young is the best.

[fatty fat fat]

If Chance finishes that game, we run away with it.

[The Manhatter]

If Chance finishes that game, we run away with it.

that OL was freaking terrible.  Which is why we have a shot down there this season...only no Vince for bail out purposes.  Remember how they started rolling out Mock every pass play because they had zero confidence they could pass protect?  LOL.  Jermaine Berry, frosh Echols, Teddy Sims were eating them alive...wtf Tejas?

[waks]

I thought you were going to say Bishop. At which point I was going to ask you if you had been hit with the dumbstick.

[turbowildcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYe6cZ3QNQ&mode=related&search=

 

Michael Bishop was better, you can not denie it, he had a stronger arm , and much stronger.
Vince did more with his talent, due to his talented team. &@#% A&M they shouldn't have stopped us in 98'.

[BMWJhawk]

Vince Young, hands down.  I remember in '04, when ku was playing Texas at home.  Somehow, ku was leading 22-17 with just under a minute left.  It's 4th and 18, and Young decides to just take the game into his own hands and run for a 1st down.  On the next play, he throws a TD in the corner of the endzone and the game was over just like that. 

 

[Pett]

"Young decides to just take the game into his own hands and run for a 1st down."



I remember that play, Vince juked the @#%$ out of Nick Reid.......

[kst8cat]

Vince Young was VERY close to committing to K-State back in 2002.  I wonder if he could have beat out Ell for the starting spot in 02 or 03.  I kind of doubt it, though.  He didn't really get good until his junior and senior years. 

[waks]

Vince Young was VERY close to committing to K-State back in 2002.  I wonder if he could have beat out Ell for the starting spot in 02 or 03.  I kind of doubt it, though.  He didn't really get good until his junior and senior years. 

That's a big myth. Young was Texas all the way.

[kst8cat]

That's a big myth. Young was Texas all the way.

I don't know about that.  I heard what sounded like credible evidence from "The Mole" that he was about to change his commitment to K-State on signing day.  Sounded true at the time!

[ksuno1stunner]

Jason "Heisman" White

 

[waks]

That's a big myth. Young was Texas all the way.

I don't know about that.  I heard what sounded like credible evidence from "The Mole" that he was about to change his commitment to K-State on signing day.  Sounded true at the time!

He was from Houston. He never even visited K-State so it would have been rather odd if he would have just committed to us. None of the information I've seen on it has looked very credible..

[WilliamTheWildcat]

Amazing how that Gopowercult story is still being told. I like the new twist to the fable about how VY was going to change his commitment on signing day.

 

[kougar24]

Young could never tear up the AFL like this...

 

[The Nasti]

Umm...could we all be forgetting this man.....the only QB to win the first Big XII game in history.

[waks]

Umm...could we all be forgetting this man.....the only QB to win the first Big XII game in history.

What a horrible second post.

[The Nasti]

Of course it is Young....this is a stupid question....Michael Bishop? C'mon guys.

[SUPERKSUFAN]

I liked the highlight video....none of them were of KSU getting smoked by Young

I agree Young was the best....second would be Bishop

[kst8cat]

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.  Jason White won a Heisman.  Bishop only got second.  So either:

a)  The Heisman voters are biased against K-State.
b)  The Heisman voters are stupid and don't recognize the best talent.
c)  Those two guys won during years when the competition was weak.
d)  Ricky Williams was such a stud that he would have won in virtually any year, and Bishop would have won during an average year.
e)  Those who pick Bishop as second are biased K-State fans that won't admit White and Crouch were better.

Hmm, I pick a and b.

 

[kst8cat]

Also, the fact that Sproles got screwed and didn't even get invited to the ceremony tells me that a and b are correct.

[waks]

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.  Jason White won a Heisman.  Bishop only got second.  So either:

a)  The Heisman voters are biased against K-State.
b)  The Heisman voters are stupid and don't recognize the best talent.
c)  Those two guys won during years when the competition was weak.
d)  Ricky Williams was such a stud that he would have won in virtually any year, and Bishop would have won during an average year.
e)  Those who pick Bishop as second are biased K-State fans that won't admit White and Crouch were better.

Hmm, I pick a and b.

 

The OU game is really what showed that Sproles should have been invited. He absolutely blew up in that game.

[Iceberg]

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.  Jason White won a Heisman.  Bishop only got second.  So either:

a)  The Heisman voters are biased against K-State.
b)  The Heisman voters are stupid and don't recognize the best talent.
c)  Those two guys won during years when the competition was weak.
d)  Ricky Williams was such a stud that he would have won in virtually any year, and Bishop would have won during an average year.
e)  Those who pick Bishop as second are biased K-State fans that won't admit White and Crouch were better.

Hmm, I pick a and b.

 

The OU game is really what showed that Sproles should have been invited. He absolutely blew up in that game.

Agreed. If most of the votes weren't casted before that game, White wouldn't have won and Sproles would have been higher than 5th.

[jaloma58]

josh heupel or major applewhite.