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March 28, 2007, 11:10:19 AM
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Apparently "Free" is looking more and more like JaMarcus Russell every day. Apparently he's listed at 238 lbs but that's not accurate. He has ballooned up to 255 and was up to 262 at one point during the offseason. Russell currently is 6'6" 260 while "Free" currently is 6'6" 255.

The Cats are shifting to a 3-4 defense. Ian Campbell is switching from DE to LB.

March 28, 2007, 11:23:46 AM
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May be old news - but heard that Hafferty quit.

March 28, 2007, 11:47:43 AM
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in the paper Krehbiel(sp?) is gone.

March 28, 2007, 12:07:23 PM
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I think this is about the 10th time Hafferty has quit. He's Prince's type of guy, though. He screamed "FŮĆĶ YOU" at Bob Stanley on the sidelines right in front of us.

March 28, 2007, 12:26:29 PM
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helps explain the continued recruiting push for linemen.

April 01, 2007, 04:22:41 PM
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Alesana Alesana is working with the First Team at LT. Fellow Offensive Linemen Nick Stringer and Brad Rooker, DT's Steven Cline and Vlad Faustin and LB Antwon Moore missed Saturday's workouts with injuries.

April 16, 2007, 07:05:32 PM
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I think this is about the 10th time Hafferty has quit. He's Prince's type of guy, though. He screamed "FŮĆĶ YOU" at Bob Stanley on the sidelines right in front of us.
:jerkoff: Another great example of bull! Haff has never quit. He got his release.Not the same thing. As for the other comment, if you really were there to see what happened on the sidelines then you would have known that Haff was pissed at the refs and bitchin to Coach about the call, not at him like you are implying! Never ASSume you know what really happened :lol:

April 16, 2007, 07:18:51 PM
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You tell a very different story from Haff's former position coach. Bob Stanley isn't one to lie.

April 16, 2007, 07:25:32 PM
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Don't think you heard that from Stanley so don't even go there.

April 16, 2007, 07:30:53 PM
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I don't care if he quit or not.  He's a quitter either way.  A real low-class individual.

April 16, 2007, 08:09:02 PM
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Haff is not a low-class individual. He just believes he's better than he is at football. If he had spent less time complaining to others (such as his former position coach) that the new staff gave Caleb Handy too much credit, not to mention calling his new position "Goober" behind his back, and more time just doing what he was asked to do, he would've been fine in this system. But once he wouldn't lose weight and buy into the new S&C program, it was pretty much over for him at KSU, so he made a good decision to leave and free up a 'ship for someone else who will hopefully be more coachable. Away from football, he is a great kid, fun-loving, a great representative of KSU. Don't be too harsh on him.

April 16, 2007, 08:15:01 PM
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Poopley, will we ever be good again?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

April 16, 2007, 08:16:49 PM
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Yes, my son, we will be good again. But if you keep putting all that extra cheez-whiz on your hot pockets, you won't live to see it.  :blush:

April 16, 2007, 08:23:27 PM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

April 16, 2007, 09:08:25 PM
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I got the opportunity to see a couple practices this weekend during the K-State Coaches Clinic.  First, this was an excellent clinic and run very well by John Colbert and Sean Snyder along with the staff. They did a great job blending direct contact to ask coaches questions, speakers from the HS and college level, on-field demonstrations, and up close and personal looks at practice. One of the best clinics I have been to in my 8 years of coaching.

Right now the standout on offense has to be James Johnson. He continues to make plays, has a great understanding of what's expected of him in the offense, and his conditioning/speed looks much better than last year. He is going to help this offense a lot, and I can't wait to see Patton along with him. Granted, we need solid O-line play with it, but you are going to see these guys makes some plays. We do need Patton healthy b/c there isn't much depth at all right now. With Patton out, right now the only healthy option is Petrie. Petrie is a solid kid for a walk-on, but he doesn't have the flash of Johnson or Patton. McCardle has also been hurt and after Johnson was dinged thursday, Petrie had to be one tired guy b/c he got a ton ofr reps. One of the guys coming in the spring will more than likely get in the mix b/c I'm sure we'll want a 3rd option.

Freeman isn't standing out right now other than he looks like a freak of nature. I think they are putting more on his shoulders and he's still trying to figure things out. He does make plays, but he also makes his share of mistakes. Coffman really looks like a young kid out there, but he has some ability and at times looks more steady than Freeman. Granted, don't make too much of that b/c he is going against the 2nd defense, but he also has is with 2s on offense. He will be a very capable back-up and really push Josh b/c if anything he has aways to go physically to really challenge for the position.

The offensive line is getting better IMO, but right now a lot of their mistakes are mental as much as they are ability. Way too many silly penalties by these guys, especially in saturday's situational practice which was officiated.

We are very solid at TE with Mastrud, Norwood, Pooschke, and Alstad. We've got playmaking ability there and they seem to be improved in their blocking as well. Like has been said, the TE coach is one of the most energetic coaches you will ever see. Pooschke is the #1 FB right now as well, but they ran very few 2 back sets.

At WR I really think the two standouts are Nelson and Gonzales. I want to like Wilson, but he seems so inconsistent making great catches occasionally and really he doesn't play any faster than Gonzales. IMO in some ways Purvis is a more consistent player b/c you know he's going to give great effort every play he's out there. Nelson has adequate speed since he's healthy, but the biggest problem is lack of a guy who can stretch the field. One of those guys coming in the fall will have to provide that. The staff indicated they want the ability to stretch things to be an integral part of the offense, but that is still being worked in as Prince and Franklin get what they want in place.

Offensively in what I've seen we are mainly a 2 TE, 1 RB team as we saw most of last year, but we are moving the TEs around a lot and going with a bunch set a lot. Also blended in some 3 WR, 1 RB and some no back spread as well. Lots of outside zone, trap, and counter action in the run game with some toss out of the bunch set and play action and mix of progression looks in the passing game.

I didn't pay as much attention to the defense, but the guys really flashing right now are Campbell and Jackson. Roland and Walker look good inside and from what I see we will be solid in the secondary. Looks like we have 3 or 4 in position to compete at CB and at S. Moran didn't look bad at NG either, and we were solid up front for the most part, but we do look small and could get into some trouble against power teams willing to settle for 4 or 5 per play.

If you like agressive defense, you are really going to like what Tibesar and company have in the works. The 3-4 scheme is really agressive and we constantly bring 4 or 5 from different spots on the field. This is going to be a big play defense, but with the first year in the scheme and being somewhat small up front we will probably be big play for both teams at times. The issue with the 3-4 if you slant a lot (and we do) is getting washed down the LOS which can lead to some big running lanes. The secondary will mix coverages between different zones (depending on where we bring pressure) and man. The Tampa 2 is gone for good and it sounds like many of the returning staff weren't big fans of it. It will be a lot of fun to watch this defense progress.

IMO, Prince did a great job with his new hires; my first impressions of Leonard, Brock, and Burns were very good, and in moving Rahne up from GA we have a young, bright coach that will be a very good one as well.


April 16, 2007, 09:18:48 PM
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April 16, 2007, 09:22:58 PM
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Awesome analysis fan.....thanks  :thumbsup:

Did Freeman set up in shotgun at all?  I'm guessing we'll see quite a bit more than we saw last year (zero).  Also, could Lamark Brown be the guy to stretch the field for us?   We'll probably see Prince use him more for shorter routes and then letting him use his athletic ability and strength to possibly break some big ones.  

Man, I can't wait for football.  I'm really considering failing one of my classes so I don't graduate in a month.   :popcorn:

April 16, 2007, 09:25:05 PM
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There was at least one snap of shotgun at the Texas Bowl.

April 16, 2007, 09:48:47 PM
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We need to get the line worked out before we stretch the field...

April 16, 2007, 10:00:08 PM
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Did they put the QB Sneak in the playbook this year?

April 16, 2007, 10:27:18 PM
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Sorry; if I missed sarcasm, I'm tired, but If I remember correctly, the Texas game had both a shotgun and a QB sneak... so, yeah.. it's in the play book.


 
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April 16, 2007, 11:11:09 PM
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Ya, the bowl game we had at least one shotgun that I can remember.  I thought they might throw that in there with the extra month of practice to give Rutgers a different look.  However, that was the only shotgun we saw all year.  And we saw plenty of QB sneaks the last part of the year.  I don't blame Prince for not relying on our O-Line to provide enough of a push to gain anything from a sneak (of course it helps when your QB is 240 also).

April 17, 2007, 07:17:59 AM
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I've been to 3 spring practices, no shotgun.

We do need O-line improvement to stretch the field, but that is part of the progression of Prince's system.  He does have a plan and after hearing him talk about it I understood more clearly what we did last year.  He is big into using the open spaces on the field to exploit a defense, and most of the time that space is going to be outside the hashes when 16-18 of the players on the field are inside the hashes based on formation.  Don't get me wrong, he does not just want to run to the sideline and cut up the field, he does want his ballcarriers to get vertical as soon as possible, but he has a plan to attack mainly at the OT and then outside.  The idea here is to always set up defenders and blocks (first on running plays, but also when you get the ball to WRs/TEs) with inside-out moves to get the ball to the numbers.  If you can run the ball that way, and we saw it some last year, then you get the safties in a tough position b/c on that location on the field, usually they have run support responsibilities.  Then you can set up advantages for play action (see Texas) and that is when you get the pay-off and are able to stretch the field.  Granted, the other things have to work first, and as we saw last year teams were able to push our outside zone/stretch to the sideline.  The idea behind most of those plays was to get upfield at or just outside the OT, but when your tackle and TE get caved it turns into an east-west play which is what we do not want to do. 

That is why you don't see a ton of QB sneaks b/c usually the defense has a bunch of people in there and Prince isn't going to bash his head against the wall and he'd prefer to see us exploit defenses with a play at the OT like Patton's long run on 4th and short vs OSU last year.  That is also why we didn't try to ram it up into the LOS in goalline situations.  Now, the problem is we didn't have the Oline to do this b/c they have to be leaner and more athletic than most of our guys were last year.  I think we're moving in the right direction this year, but there will be more growing pains along the offensive front.  However, I think we'll be better at it just b/c Johnson and Patton are perfect backs for this and they've had a year to learn it and get faster/stronger.  We will see those guys break more runs this year, you can bank on that. 

IMO what we need on offense most (besides improved OL play) is to find is a WR who can stretch the field and that will have to be one of the new guys more than likely.

April 17, 2007, 07:47:23 AM
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April 17, 2007, 10:07:07 AM
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fan - please take notebook and pen to the spring game.  and a good camera as well.

i expect a jaworski style breakdown by next wednesday.


April 17, 2007, 11:02:06 AM
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Great breakdown, Fan. If you don't mind, I'd like to add a little to it.

Freeman- Yes, he's bigger and obviously stronger, but he also looks uncomfortable with both, right now. He overthrew pretty much everything at Thursday's practice, and not just by a step or two. He's still growing into himself. Which as a 19-year old (?) sophomore, that's expected. I think he'll lose a step or two as far as speed this year, but that's not why RP brought him in, so that's fine, too. But he'll also be able to withstand and escape some one-on-one hits in the pocket, and  with the o-line's play in practice, it appears, at this point, he'll have plenty of opportunities to do that.

O-Line- It's a mess. Granted, at least on Thursday, Stringer didn't practice and Handy wasn't there, so that propbably aided to the disaster. Freeman has no time, which is causing him to rush his progressions and overthrow. Alesana is 6-2 --not an inch taller-- and is still trying to grasp a lot of the concepts, but his progression will come with time, you'd think. Logan Robinson's ceiling is about to be reached. He's fine for what he is, but he'll get overpowered plenty this year. Just for example, he got in a shoving match with DB Courtney Herndon (5-11, 201) on Thursday. Robinson shoved first and Herndon stumbled one step back. Then Herndon shoved, and Robinson went back about three. At this point, I think Bedore is the best player on the line. But as we saw last year, Prince can obviously develop the o-line. And defenses are usually steps ahead of defenses this early in the season. I don't think it will ever be a great unit. But I think it will much get better. Freeman better hope so.

TE- Norwood is bigger, too. J-Mart wrote about this last year, and I think it was expected, but Norwood never was able to secure him self as the go-to guy in the offense. With Nelson out and a young QB in front of a poor o-line last season, I thought for sure he'd end the season with 10-15 more receptions than anybody. It never happened. I think he could be a threat, but I also think he suffers from a tad of laziness that hampers him from doing a lot of things he could do.

WR- I haven't seen a drop off in Nelson at all. Think about this: This will be his first season, barring injury, that he'll have just one quarterback --a decent one at that-- he has to think about dealing with. I think that will be big for him. Gonzalez is a step slow, but has good hands. I think he'll be the other starter.

RB- I think it will be JJ's job to lose when spring ends. He's running well, and Patton has been missing practice. Though I think Patton is the better back, Johnson hasn't show anything to make you believe he's not just as good.

Defense- So far ahead of the offense, it's not funny. The 3-4 works with this group. Campbell is excellent against the right side of the o-line. Jackson, though at a different position, is just as dominant on the left. It's only a matter of time before Chandler replaces Erker --you'd think, anyway. Other than that, I think what we see now as the No. 1 unit could easlity be the opening day defense.