It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport.

[Dan Rydell]

Sorry I haven't been keeping up on this thread.  I haven't been on the football board much recently, what with the FF going on this weekend and MLB opening day and all.

Anyway, bball and baseball >>>>>> football according to 100% of persons recently polled by myself.  They still like football a lot, too, though.

[jmlynch1]

I only read half of this thread. But, LOL at all the blanket statements regarding sports fans.

[jmlynch1]

No one really gave a @#%$ about Snyder.  At least quite a few hate Huggins.

Everyone hated Snyder. No one (outside of ku fans) hates Huggins because they don't care. About. Basketball.

seriously?

[jmlynch1]

I need some more     Ahhhh.....

So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball.  Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better.  I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose?  Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?   

It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball.  Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball.  But that's coming to an end too.

Anyone remember this?

In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.

(badass)

I don't see any blood in that picture, you &*$@!ing liar!

You idiots do realize I copied and pasted that right?

[ksuno1stunner]

No one really gave a @#%$ about Snyder.  At least quite a few hate Huggins.

Everyone hated Snyder. No one (outside of ku fans) hates Huggins because they don't care. About. Basketball.

seriously?

OMG!  Cupcake schedule!  Recruits thugs!

[sonofdaxjones]

Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Football (combined) FY 2006:  $109 million

Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Basketball (combined) FY 2006:  $18.8 million

[waks]

Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Football (combined) FY 2006:  $109 million

Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Basketball (combined) FY 2006:  $18.8 million

Most of that probably reflects on the fact that they sell about 5 times the amount of tickets to football compared to basketball because you can watch football in a 100,000 seat stadium when you cannot in basketball... Don't get me wrong, I like football much more than basketball but that example doesn't do much for me...

[cireksu]

It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.


I didn't watch the ccg last night, I watched "Touristas"(horrible).  Did Florida win?

[sonofdaxjones]

I had the exact numbers the other day, but not now, but I calculated the total take on football and basketball for Big 12 Schools in FY 2006, and it the ratio on dollars was around $5:1 football over basketball.

The main point here of course is that football is king.  Nobody has created a BCS conference to date based on basketball.

[Saulbadguy]

The Final Four has a lot of viewers because of the whole "March Madness" thing and their brackets.  If people didn't fill out brackets no one would care.

[chum1]

Honest question to follow.  Does anyone other than dax really give a crap how much money athletic departments make?  

It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.

That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you.  This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand:  why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots.  You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances.  Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior.  You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other.  What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.

[KSt8er]

Honest question to follow.  Does anyone other than dax really give a @#%$ how much money athletic departments make?  

It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.

That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you.  This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand:  why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots.  You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances.  Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior.  You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other.  What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.

Nope, 3rd gen KStater and was raised on KSU basketball, but once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan.  So no, the idiot is in the mirror.   

[chum1]

once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan.

Are you claiming that football is superior for no reason other than it's what we've been good at recently?  It doesn't seem like you are.  Maybe you missed my point.

[cireksu]

That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you.  This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand:  why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots.  You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances.  Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior.  You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other.  What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.

Ok, wihuskerchum I mentioned earlier that I've been a Football fan my whole life growing up going to chiefs games with my folks through the 90's.  My family has had Chiefs season tix going back to my grandmother at the old stadium when the Chiefs moved to KC from Dallas(their seats now are badass).  I like KSU bball and that is about it, don't follow other teams, didn't follow college closely until I went to KSU, still don't follow college closley(see my bracket) Football will always be my favorite ksu sport even when they go back to crappola, I will probably be in denial about it when it happens.  I will root my ass off for ksu in bball as well but it will never take the place of what football means to me.  College basketball has a meaningless regular season for all but a few "Cinderella teams" that get clobbered by the elites 90% of the time.  In football every game  means something and holds a teams hopes on the line.  The bowl games are about pride, state, region, confrence, school.  No one talks about that crap in bball.

 

[chum1]

Finally some legitimate reasons.  You are a minority in more ways than one.

[KSt8er]

once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan.

Are you claiming that football is superior for no reason other than it's what we've been good at recently?  It doesn't seem like you are.  Maybe you missed my point.

I'll try again.  Growing up I was a college basketball fan, no pro ball then, and still.  I was a pro football fan (Johnny U and the Colts baby!!), never followed college ball, and yes likely because being raised a KSU fan meant you were a bball fan.  That and KSU was never on tv in football I'd suppose. 

Then when we did become competetive in football I had just moved back to KS (93) and started to follow the team, which led to my appreciation of the college game much more than the pro, which I now hardly ever watch. 

Should KSU ever be a high quality in both sports I'll follow both but my days of being a basketball fan first are over.  Not because of when I became a fan, or what sport we are better in at the time. 

[jmlynch1]

FACT: Globally, most people enjoy basketball moreso than our Football.

[sonofdaxjones]

Chum . . . I grew up watching Lon Kruger, Mike Evans, Carl Gerlach, Ed Nealy, Ro et. al. playing basketball at KSU, and also watching Gary Spani attempt to be a one man defense.   

I have always stated that I don't seen any reason why KSU can't be decent in one of those sports now, and good in the other.   Why??  Because KSU fields the minimum amount of sports and today spends almost $40 million dollars on athletics, and will likely make close to $50 million dollars in gross revenues on athletics this year.   

Plus all K-State fans should care about how much money KSU sports makes, and how it relates to other conference schools, because that is going to be important in keeping KSU involved in a major conference in the future.  It's also important because it lets us a fan know how much money KSU can spend on its various sports budgets, to get coaches etc. etc. etc.

Lets say KSU has to give Huggins a considerable pay raise to keep him at KSU . . . well I feel a whole lot better about KSU being able to that since KSU athletics finished nearly $9 million in the black last FY. 

[Saulbadguy]

FACT: Globally, most people enjoy basketball moreso than our Football.

FACT: Globally, more people care about Harry Potter than our football.

[chum1]

Honestly, I find the revenue stuff pretty interesting.  I need to stay on top of things, anyway, because if I ever win a huge jackpot in the lottery, I will do something like donate some new courtside folding chairs for the basketball teams.  They'll probably be black with a diamond and gold encrusted image of Huggins' mug on them.

[sonofdaxjones]

Honestly, I find the revenue stuff pretty interesting.  I need to stay on top of things, anyway, because if I ever win a huge jackpot in the lottery, I will do something like donate some new courtside folding chairs for the basketball teams.  They'll probably be black with a diamond and gold encrusted image of Huggins' mug on them.

How about an all black basketball court with a large Huggy headshot at mid court??