It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988

[Super PurpleCat]

ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read is the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.  Then during the offseason you still compare yourselves to schools who have won many more titles than you have.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.

I didn't say ku was the best in the nation. I said they are elite because of this:

tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Getting to the elite eight would be an achievement for lesser programs. Losing there is a 'choke' for ku(elite). How can Ksu fans say ku isn't elite and then turnaround and say an elite eight loss is a choke?

 <------I just don't understand you silly bastards.

[jmlynch1]

They weren't even in the top 1/4th of eliteness in their own region.

[Super PurpleCat]

ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.

I didn't say ku was the best in the nation. I said they are elite because of this:

tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Getting to the elite eight would be an achievement for lesser programs. Losing there is a 'choke' for ku(elite). How can Ksu fans say ku isn't elite and then turnaround and say an elite eight loss is a choke?

 <------I just don't understand you silly bastards.

I have low BBIQ and low elitiness.