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Title: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: sys on January 22, 2010, 02:23:34 AM
offered martin 800k.


http://cjonline.com/interact/blog/austin_meek/2010-01-21/new_c_j_podcast
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: dlew12 on January 22, 2010, 02:28:31 AM
Oh boy...

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: waks on January 22, 2010, 02:46:25 AM
 :banghead:
Title: So who will make the firejohncurrienow website?
Post by: waks on January 22, 2010, 02:48:46 AM
Seriously, if we lose Frank Martin because we won't pay him I don't know what I'll do. I can't say that I wouldn't be willing to go to jail over it. &@#% you John Currie. &@#% you.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 06:11:21 AM
slap in the face to ksufans, also.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: dohminator on January 22, 2010, 06:25:20 AM
Welp, it's been fun having Martin as our head coach.  I'm sure that the SLTH that we get in here next will be very loyal at that price for the 6 years that we pay him to ruin the program again.

Enjoy the ride this year, I guess.   :curse:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: cireksu on January 22, 2010, 06:30:19 AM
 :curse:

Infuriated.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 22, 2010, 06:34:36 AM
What a stupid fracking asshole.  :curse:

Thanks for the memories Frank.   :'(

At least we have footba.......... :angry:
Title: John Currie is going to &@#% us all...and folks "in the know," KNOW
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2010, 07:15:16 AM
I've the distinct displeasure of a getting a few PM's on this and essentially it boils down to this.

1.  Currie had/has NO appreciation for the amount of latent love KSU fans had for basketball.  Currie's ($EC) only concern is football, and he wrongfully assumed that was the case with the KSU community. 

2.  Currie HAS insulted Frank and his staff, and Currie knows that this is the case.  He doesn't care in the slightest.  He says that he doesn't want to give Frank an extension because "He doesn't want another Ron Prince type contract on his resume."  Currie is ready, willing and able to nudge Frank out the door and paint Frank as the guy who lept for the greener pastures.  Frank doesn't want to leave....he wants to be treated fairly, which he deserves.

3.  This leads to the next point....which is that John Currie is dead set on being on the next opportunity out of town, and it's the worst kept secret in the athletic department.  This guy isn't interested in "investing" in KSU athletics....he's trying to clean up a balance sheet, let Snyder stabilize the only revenue stream that Currie deems relevant, and do basketball on the cheap.  Currie knows that basketball will be decent for the next couple years even if Frank leaves and he replaces Frank with another cheap coach.   By that time, Currie will have shored up the balance sheet and basketball will still have the (temporary) perception of being stable.  BOOM, Currie leaves and we are stuck in the Wooly cycle once again.



Gang, I am really concerned about this.....because big donors, media types, and athletic department folks are really concerned about this.


&@#% John Currie.  AD's come and go.  When was the last time you were proud of basketball at K-State?  How long have you agonized over the cycle of inept coach after inept coach?  Frank Martin and his staff have done something very special, and it's not simply winning games.  They reminded us of how great KSU basketball was, and how important it is to bring it back.

John Currie does not give to craps about that.

If you are concerned about this, email Currie AND Shultz.  Let Shultz know that ultimately he will be held accountable for Currie's failure in this matter.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: friend on January 22, 2010, 07:19:44 AM
 :confused: why, why would papa currie do this to us
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Johnny Wichita on January 22, 2010, 07:22:56 AM
Amazing AD.  Good call Currie. 
Title: Re: John Currie is going to frack us all...and folks "in the know," KNOW
Post by: kcchiefdav on January 22, 2010, 07:27:41 AM
Why the hell can't I enjoy anything involving KSU athletics. Frack JMart for not waiting another week to blow this story up.
Title: Re: John Currie is going to frack us all...and folks "in the know," KNOW
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 07:28:40 AM
He hired Bruce Pearl, maybe he can hire another Milwaukee-based coach?  :hope:
Title: Re: John Currie is going to frack us all...and folks "in the know," KNOW
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 07:29:43 AM
Dear people who had faith in Currie and argued that this was how negotiations work because you have tons of experience with super high level negotiations and are attorneys or are smarter than everyone else:

Please line up in this thread to get your faces made fun of and then punched in.

Warming up my punching arm,
steve dave
Title: I'm sick to my stomach
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 07:31:46 AM
I'm serious.

This is no real news just a thread to vent.

I can't go back to the Wooly days of hoops.  I just can't. Not yet. Give me two more seasons of success, and win a Big XII Championship..maybe an Elite 8 run I can be content with what we have(had).

We've tasted what it was like to blow 7 point leads with 1:30 to go vs. Ostate at home.  Had Colorado beat us the day we hung Ernie Barrett's banner. Choked vs. Oklahoma, twice. Fouled Ole Miss with 20 seconds left when they are down 1. I just can't do it anymore.

If Frank leaves, I leave too. Sure, I might go to a few big games here and there but my donation dollars for hoops are gone and I'll cancel my season tickets if and when it happens. I'll always love football, for more than just the game but the day long party it consumes but basketball is more dependent on success to be enjoyable for everyone imho. Depends who you ask I guess.

Unless Kstate comes back with another offer, he's all but gone.

WHY CANT WE EVER HAVE ANYTHING MOTHER FRACKING NICE!!!!!
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 07:31:56 AM
Is it too soon to send Currie my coaching list?  Maybe one of his guys will match with one of mine, and we can all be happy.
Title: Re: I'm sick to my stomach
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 07:32:46 AM
Remember when we lost by 22 @ UNL?

:dunno:
Title: Re: So who will make the firejohncurrienow website?
Post by: Pike on January 22, 2010, 07:36:07 AM
I agree I'm freaking out over this. Jail time would not be out of the picture for me either
Title: Re: I'm sick to my stomach
Post by: PoetWarrior on January 22, 2010, 07:37:15 AM
I can't go back to the Wooly days of hoops.  I just can't.  [/size]

Yes, you can.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
Is it too soon to send Currie my coaching list?  Maybe one of his guys will match with one of mine, and we can all be happy.

The SLTH goes like this with message boards and we'll do the same thing.

1. A name pops up you've heard of maybe through another site and your like WTF!

2. You do your research and find out the guy has a .602 lifetime record.

3. You start to rationalize how he would be a good "fit" for your school. Midwest farmboy roots or some crap of no significance.

4. He's hired.

5. You take step 3 to turbo like levels and pimp your SLTH as an up and comer who "gets it" and "wants to be here" and "does things the right way".
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Johnny Wichita on January 22, 2010, 07:39:58 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 07:42:12 AM
:confused: why, why would papa currie do this to us

cuz he's gotta pat his ego and pad his resume first. ...and he's unwilling to take a risk on college hoops because he's a football guy.

Donation dollars and support from Kstate...GONE. ..and he doesn't care because Kstate is a stepping stone to him.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 07:42:44 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?

Kietz.

While I'll agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 07:44:19 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?

Kietz.

While I'll agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  

the last line isnt a deterrent from him. Everyone needs to now that. It should be public knowledge that Currie being booted from KSU would be the least of his worries.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 07:44:33 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?

Kietz.

While I'll agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  

fwiw Katz isn't running this show.  First thing that I thought too.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: WillieWannabe on January 22, 2010, 07:46:35 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?

Kietz.

While I'll agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  

the last line isnt a deterrent from him. Everyone needs to now that. It should be public knowledge that Currie being booted from KSU would be the least of his worries.

how so?
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 07:49:48 AM
I've listened to meek's deal but may have missed it.  Where did the 800k number come from?

Kietz.

While I'll agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  

the last line isnt a deterrent from him. Everyone needs to now that. It should be public knowledge that Currie being booted from KSU would be the least of his worries.

Site specifics book.  Otherwise you're just making stuff up.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 22, 2010, 07:57:20 AM
Well again, let me the first to say that I was operating under the assumption, wrong as it was that Tim Weiser Jr. was just engaging in the "process" and that it would all work itself out.

I've learned in the last few hours that Tim Weiser Jr. is operating pretty much like Pete posted above.

I can appreciate Currie being cautious, but what Frank wants isn't even sniffing at being way off the reservation.   There's also plenty of ways to negotiate a fair an equitable buyout that doesn't break the bank.   There's just too much evidence showing me that giving Frank and staff a nice bump in pay would not be a financial hardship at all.  



Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
agree Katz is owning Currie right now, I think the panic is unfounded at this point.  I'm glad Katz is owning him b/c Currie will either realize he needs to fix things or that he will be on thin ice and quickly be in jeopardy of losing his job.  

1) it's not katz

2) did you not read anything that pete wrote?

3)  :suicideispainless:

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 07:58:44 AM
Dear Tim Weiser:

We're ready to talk towers.

Let's get back to work,
steve dave
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2010, 08:14:31 AM
Dear Jackass Currie,

if you don't want a ron prince situation, then don't give him a secret buyout.  ron's normal buyout, while stupid, wasn't atrociously terrible.  thanks.

your mortal enemy from now on,
catzacker
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
Well again, let me the first to say that I was operating under the assumption, wrong as it was that Tim Weiser Jr. was just engaging in the "process" and that it would all work itself out.

I've learned in the last few hours that Tim Weiser Jr. is operating pretty much like Pete posted above.

I can appreciate Currie being cautious, but what Frank wants isn't even sniffing at being way off the reservation.   There's also plenty of ways to negotiate a fair an equitable buyout that doesn't break the bank.   There's just too much evidence showing me that giving Frank and staff a nice bump in pay would not be a financial hardship at all.  





:users:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
Those familiar with the Trim vs. RP saga, especially how early into RP's tenure it started, check this out:

I don't like Currie.

I don't like Currie.

Why . .  just curious.



Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...


Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

So what do you want him to talk about?  It seems to me that he is not just talking about twitter and blackberries.  He has removed a couple of guys, which was way past due, and he's done everything I can think of to assure the donors that secret deals are no longer being made and the Wefald/Krause spending-spree is over.  He has done a hell of a job of trying to get some football tickets sold.

He has put a hold on facilities projects, but has said they are still going to be as aggressive as they can under the current circumstances.  I agree that it has only been talk so far with regard to facilities, but I'm not sure what else he can do other than talk when the bank account is empty.

I agree that it's way too early to crown him the next Jeremy Foley or Joe Castiglione, but the fact that he seems to be the polar opposite of Tim Weiser is enough to get me excited.  Of course, we'll see how things progress from here and the ultimate gauge of his success will be if he is able to increase income and hire good coaches.
 



 

Part of the problem is I'm really smart, so almost anyone who has to communicate to bulk KSU fans is going to sound very condescending to me.

I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.

getting more people to go to football games might be a good start.  who knows, though?  :dunno:

All summer, they've been going on and on about how all fans should know that their donations are being used for the intended purpose.  During the first live chat, after Currie side-stepped a few questions/comments about the hoop facility and reiterated family reunion, transparency, Ask John, etc., I chatted that I wanted my already-made, audit-be-damned hoops donation to go towards the practice facility.  No response.  :dunno:

Whatever.  I just have a bad first impression of him.  I'm kind of a dick.

I'll wait 'til at least October before I star wearing a Fire Currie shirt.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 22, 2010, 08:25:49 AM
Well again, let me the first to say that I was operating under the assumption, wrong as it was that Tim Weiser Jr. was just engaging in the "process" and that it would all work itself out.

I've learned in the last few hours that Tim Weiser Jr. is operating pretty much like Pete posted above.

I can appreciate Currie being cautious, but what Frank wants isn't even sniffing at being way off the reservation.   There's also plenty of ways to negotiate a fair an equitable buyout that doesn't break the bank.   There's just too much evidence showing me that giving Frank and staff a nice bump in pay would not be a financial hardship at all.  

I love it, as soon as you turn on someone, you give them a clever name.

Ron Prince = Stan Parrish
Tim Weiser = Timid Timmy
Max Urick = Mediocre Max

 :love:

Forgot your Wooly name...

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 08:28:08 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 08:29:40 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 22, 2010, 08:31:42 AM
Saul . . . Ron Prince = Black Stan Parrish.

Apparently Tim Weiser Jr. told the huddled masses at the Salina Catbackers meeting that Frank would be given a new contract based on his "full body of work" (not one game).  

TWJr. also told the huddled masses that VT, Miami and Auburn were still a go on the football non conference schedule.  (posting here since many pretty much don't care about football anymore . . . not that I blame them given WRSOAT in place)

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 08:34:40 AM

Apparently Tim Weiser Jr. told the huddled masses at the Salina Catbackers meeting that Frank would be given a new contract based on his "full body of work" (not one game).  


Isn't this pretty much the stance you took when this contract came up originally in the thread J-Mart started? :dunno:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2010, 08:34:51 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

It's like a nice, warm blanket.  

But for reals, given ksu athletics (and specifically ksu bball) over the past...I don't know.. 10-15 years, if you put your money on the "kick in the nuts" side of any "that's not gunna happen" situation, you would have enough money to give currie money to give frank an raise/extension and pay for the practicie facility AND build some towers for the fball stadium.  
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 08:36:43 AM
Also, props to Trim for sniffing out losers
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 08:39:35 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2010, 08:40:17 AM
Saul . . . Ron Prince = Black Stan Parrish.

Apparently Tim Weiser Jr. told the huddled masses at the Salina Catbackers meeting that Frank would be given a new contract based on his "full body of work" (not one game).  

TWJr. also told the huddled masses that VT, Miami and Auburn were still a go on the football non conference schedule.  (posting here since many pretty much don't care about football anymore . . . not that I blame them given WRSOAT in place)



I'm sure you'd agree that's a good thing.  Hopefully it means currie told OB "tough sh*t, Bill, just go play 'em".  Cause it's be absurd to buy out of those (unless it was mutual and didn't cost anything) and then tell frank we don't gots no money.  

I think it's becoming more and more clear that bill snyder ruins basketball.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 08:41:09 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2010, 08:43:58 AM
Also, props to Trim for sniffing out losers

Ironically, while I'm great at sniffing out KSU-employed losers, it took J-Mart (while on a KSU road trip) to confirm to me that a guy my office hired whom J-Mart had just met was a loser.  :dunno:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 08:45:56 AM
Also, props to Trim for sniffing out losers

He's amazing!  :love:

What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:

I'm pretty sure your only meltdown was "turn out the lights".
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2010, 08:47:58 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:

Me too.  Some of these guys need to relax.  these things work themselves out for the better.

sincerely,
lon krueger
tom asbury
dana altman
the exodus in '98
wooly
the pasco fiasco
the '04 and '05 football season
jon wefald medling in everything
bob huggins to wvu
ron prince
ron prince's buyout
ron prince's super secret buyout
krause's buyout
weiser's buyout
It's Patterson
hiring back old balls
john "lowball" currie

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: BarryMcCockner on January 22, 2010, 08:50:03 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

I stand by the fact that I don't think there is any way in hell the big $$$ donors will allow Frank to leave without a fair offer on the table.  The fact that he gave ANY more money to the carpet muncher and OBz means that he's not as tight as some are suggesting, and in those instances I'm sure he didn't have the Garths of the world dangling cash carrots in front of him.

But keep melting down, it's fun to watch.   :dancin:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Chingon on January 22, 2010, 08:52:53 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:

Me too.  Some of these guys need to relax.  these things work themselves out for the better.

sincerely,
lon krueger
tom asbury
dana altman
the exodus in '98
wooly
the pasco fiasco
the '04 and '05 football season
jon wefald medling in everything
bob huggins to wvu
ron prince
ron prince's buyout
ron prince's super secret buyout
krause's buyout
weiser's buyout
It's Patterson
hiring back old balls
john "lowball" currie


JFC, you forgot the hot dog fiasco.

Those dark hours are still lamented to this day.
Title: Re: So who will make the firejohncurrienow website?
Post by: bigDcat on January 22, 2010, 08:53:35 AM
would never go to a kstate athletics event again. &@#% you DOD. you &@#%ed up everything.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: mcmwcat on January 22, 2010, 08:54:43 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:

Me too.  Some of these guys need to relax.  these things work themselves out for the better.

sincerely,
lon krueger
tom asbury
dana altman
the exodus in '98
wooly
the pasco fiasco
the '04 and '05 football season
jon wefald medling in everything
bob huggins to wvu
ron prince
ron prince's buyout
ron prince's super secret buyout
krause's buyout
weiser's buyout
It's Patterson
hiring back old balls
john "lowball" currie


JFC, you forgot the hot dog fiasco.

Those dark hours are still lamented to this day.

you also forgot snyder up and quitting w/ no warning and no plan in place eventually costing ksu millions of dollars.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 08:55:47 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

If the offer was really $800k, w/ $30k extra for Figger and Underwood each, it was silly no matter when it was offered.

The only encouraging thing is the power of EMAW could possibly either force Currie's hand or run him out of town.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2010, 09:02:43 AM
jfc, this site has become insufferable.  the perfect storm of meltdown fanatics and KSUFans.com rejects.

(http://www.ksufans.com/forums/Smileys/ksufans/runaway.gif)
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 09:03:37 AM
jfc, this site has become insufferable.  the perfect storm of meltdown fanatics and KSUFans.com rejects.

:blank:
Title: Re: So who will make the firejohncurrienow website?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 22, 2010, 09:04:09 AM
Seriously, if we lose Frank Martin because we won't pay him I don't know what I'll do. I can't say that I wouldn't be willing to go to jail over it. frack you John Currie. frack you.

I understand your urge for a meltdown considering we haven't had one lately with our recent run of success, but you are jumpin' the gun a bit on this one.  I would be extremely upset along with you if Currie chased Martin off, but "fire (insert name here)" websites really make our fanbase look like toolbags. 

Dirty, threatening emails is the way to go.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2010, 09:06:01 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

If the offer was really $800k, w/ $30k extra for Figger and Underwood each, it was silly no matter when it was offered.

The only encouraging thing is the power of EMAW could possibly either force Currie's hand or run him out of town.

he has to be feeling like a moron. it's his first big thing and he's already f'd it up (in my mind, any goodwill he could have had is gone between him and frank).  i mean, aside from the fact that he's getting pretty close ot if not already has completely pissed off the entre fan base, but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
jfc, this site has become insufferable.  the perfect storm of meltdown fanatics and KSUFans.com rejects.

Go have drinks with Pete after work and let him fill you in on the details.... :users:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Kat Kid on January 22, 2010, 09:11:29 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

It's like a nice, warm blanket.  

But for reals, given ksu athletics (and specifically ksu bball) over the past...I don't know.. 10-15 years, if you put your money on the "kick in the nuts" side of any "that's not gunna happen" situation, you would have enough money to give currie money to give frank an raise/extension and pay for the practicie facility AND build some towers for the fball stadium.  

THis is soooo true.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: mcmwcat on January 22, 2010, 09:18:39 AM
but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".

if anything can be said to be absolutely true at this point this is it.  j-mart, cap journal guys, radio guys in kc are all on Frank's side.

smellis i'm sure is sucking on currie's teet.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 22, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".

if anything can be said to be absolutely true at this point this is it.  j-mart, cap journal guys, radio guys in kc are all on Frank's side.

smellis i'm sure is sucking on currie's teet.

Or his Wife's cookies.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
What's becoming clear to me; having a successful basketball season and not having regular opportunities to meltdown is taking its toll on this messageboard fanbase.

It's who we are

No doubt.  Plus we've had so many opportunities to practice melting down for years that we've gotten very good at it.  This morning has shown that we haven't forgotten.

ksu_fan- not wanting to be a powertard or a ksufans meltdowner. forced to hover somewhere in the middle on every single possible messageboard topic with no strong opinions on anything ever.   :sleep:

It takes a lot for me to meltdown I guess.  :dunno:

golly gee _fan, you're just so gosh darn reasonable.

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: MakeItRain on January 22, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
What a stupid fracking asshole.  :curse:

Thanks for the memories Frank.   :'(

At least we have footba.......... :angry:

I know, right?  Don't say this to the powertards, some of them like Koppe22 will call you an insecure drama queen.  Too bad that guy doesn't post over here any more it would be great to see him contradict himself by playing to the masses of both boards.  The poor bastard wants to be loved so bad.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 10:02:39 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

If the offer was really $800k, w/ $30k extra for Figger and Underwood each, it was silly no matter when it was offered.

The only encouraging thing is the power of EMAW could possibly either force Currie's hand or run him out of town.


Two observations:

1:  Assuming the negotiation info came from Frank's camp, which should be a safe assumption, then he's pretty much clowned Currie in this round, which leads to...

2:  Assuming the lowballing info is correct, then what the hell was Currie thinking?  Horrible idea for two reasons:  you basically insult a guy who, all other things being equal, has some loyalty to you institution, *and* you provide a powderkeg to the other side in the negotiations.  A powderkeg that Frank's camp has taken full advantage of to the extent that you've had the two major KC sports media players weigh in on Frank's side--and one even gave out Currie's e-mail on air to lobby for Frank's raise--and now you've got national folks in on the story.

I think the key is the timing of the "lowball".  A lowball offer should not have been insulting before the season began.

it would have been to me. either make a legit offer or don't. insulting to lowball period, regardless of the timing.

I'm saying a modest raise before the season started was a legit offer at that point in time.  J-Mart is conveniently leaving out timing details in all of his posts.

'clams nailed it w/ his jerry macguire anecdote.  Great lesson (and film).

everybody is different though and if i was in franks shoes and some new guy on the scene comes in and purposefully low balls me before the season starts, it would offend me. maybe not you, but it would me.

 :confused:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2010, 10:04:48 AM
jfc, this site has become insufferable.  the perfect storm of meltdown fanatics and KSUFans.com rejects.

Go have drinks with Pete after work and let him fill you in on the details.... :users:
why don't i already know the details.... :flush:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2010, 10:07:18 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

If the offer was really $800k, w/ $30k extra for Figger and Underwood each, it was silly no matter when it was offered.

The only encouraging thing is the power of EMAW could possibly either force Currie's hand or run him out of town.


Two observations:

1:  Assuming the negotiation info came from Frank's camp, which should be a safe assumption, then he's pretty much clowned Currie in this round, which leads to...

2:  Assuming the lowballing info is correct, then what the hell was Currie thinking?  Horrible idea for two reasons:  you basically insult a guy who, all other things being equal, has some loyalty to you institution, *and* you provide a powderkeg to the other side in the negotiations.  A powderkeg that Frank's camp has taken full advantage of to the extent that you've had the two major KC sports media players weigh in on Frank's side--and one even gave out Currie's e-mail on air to lobby for Frank's raise--and now you've got national folks in on the story.

I think the key is the timing of the "lowball".  A lowball offer should not have been insulting before the season began.

it would have been to me. either make a legit offer or don't. insulting to lowball period, regardless of the timing.

I'm saying a modest raise before the season started was a legit offer at that point in time.  J-Mart is conveniently leaving out timing details in all of his posts.

'clams nailed it w/ his jerry macguire anecdote.  Great lesson (and film).

everybody is different though and if i was in franks shoes and some new guy on the scene comes in and purposefully low balls me before the season starts, it would offend me. maybe not you, but it would me.

 :confused:

didn't believe the 800k offer until Meek confirmed.  :dunno:

My position can be very fluid.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Jmo on January 22, 2010, 10:11:30 AM
AGAIN, does anyone know when this was offered, is this this preseason offer to increase the current contract, or an actual extension offer made recently?  If this was what Currie before the season to increase the payout of his current contract, that's no big deal.  If this is the offer on the table now for the extension, that's a big deal.  No relaiable source has indicated that is the case.

If the offer was really $800k, w/ $30k extra for Figger and Underwood each, it was silly no matter when it was offered.

The only encouraging thing is the power of EMAW could possibly either force Currie's hand or run him out of town.


Two observations:

1:  Assuming the negotiation info came from Frank's camp, which should be a safe assumption, then he's pretty much clowned Currie in this round, which leads to...

2:  Assuming the lowballing info is correct, then what the hell was Currie thinking?  Horrible idea for two reasons:  you basically insult a guy who, all other things being equal, has some loyalty to you institution, *and* you provide a powderkeg to the other side in the negotiations.  A powderkeg that Frank's camp has taken full advantage of to the extent that you've had the two major KC sports media players weigh in on Frank's side--and one even gave out Currie's e-mail on air to lobby for Frank's raise--and now you've got national folks in on the story.

I think the key is the timing of the "lowball".  A lowball offer should not have been insulting before the season began.

it would have been to me. either make a legit offer or don't. insulting to lowball period, regardless of the timing.

I'm saying a modest raise before the season started was a legit offer at that point in time.  J-Mart is conveniently leaving out timing details in all of his posts.

'clams nailed it w/ his jerry macguire anecdote.  Great lesson (and film).

everybody is different though and if i was in franks shoes and some new guy on the scene comes in and purposefully low balls me before the season starts, it would offend me. maybe not you, but it would me.

 :confused:

One thing we can find comfort in is that this is coming to light now and not the end of the season.  We've been able to show Frank and Currie whose side we are on, not that there should have been any doubt.  

Currie will be forced to pay Frank.  He can't win against a whole fan base.  Frank knows this.

Whoever said Currie doesn't care if he gets fired is a retard.  Getting fired from a low budget AD job does not look good on your resume.  

As long as we keep showing hate towards Currie, love towards Frank it will get done.   :ksu:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Jacobs Beard on January 22, 2010, 10:11:48 AM
but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".

if anything can be said to be absolutely true at this point this is it.  j-mart, cap journal guys, radio guys in kc are all on Frank's side.

smellis i'm sure is sucking on currie's teet.

Or his Wife's cookies.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1147591.html
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: kougar24 on January 22, 2010, 10:37:28 AM
I think it's becoming more and more clear that bill snyder ruins basketball.

You know, there might be something to this...
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: WillieWannabe on January 22, 2010, 10:38:23 AM
I think it's becoming more and more clear that bill snyder ruins basketball.

You know, there might be something to this...

Well KSU football and basketball can't be good at the same time...
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 22, 2010, 10:47:04 AM

Apparently Tim Weiser Jr. told the huddled masses at the Salina Catbackers meeting that Frank would be given a new contract based on his "full body of work" (not one game).  


Isn't this pretty much the stance you took when this contract came up originally in the thread J-Mart started? :dunno:

Yep, but when I first read the thread I was still a bit sleepy in my Elite Golf Resort Room, I was thinking Frank was wanting something off the charts.   I have now had it confirmed that Frank just wants a nice, equitable bump in pay, and a nice bump for his assistants and he'll be happy.   IMO it's a perfectly doable situation pretty much right now, and as long as they have fair and properly structured buyout provision there would be absolutely no reason not to go ahead and get it done.

Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: The1BigWillie on January 22, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
They'll never love you like we'll love you?  :scared:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 10:50:01 AM
I think it's becoming more and more clear that bill snyder ruins basketball.

You know, there might be something to this...

Well KSU football and basketball can't be good at the same time...

but they can undoubtedly suck at the same time.

See 2010-onward.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 11:16:58 AM

Apparently Tim Weiser Jr. told the huddled masses at the Salina Catbackers meeting that Frank would be given a new contract based on his "full body of work" (not one game).  


Isn't this pretty much the stance you took when this contract came up originally in the thread J-Mart started? :dunno:

Yep, but when I first read the thread I was still a bit sleepy in my Elite Golf Resort Room, I was thinking Frank was wanting something off the charts.   I have now had it confirmed that Frank just wants a nice, equitable bump in pay, and a nice bump for his assistants and he'll be happy.   IMO it's a perfectly doable situation pretty much right now, and as long as they have fair and properly structured buyout provision there would be absolutely no reason not to go ahead and get it done.



That makes sense, and I agree completely.  While Currie may not be the best, I think he's at least smart enough to figure that out.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2010, 11:18:40 AM
but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".

if anything can be said to be absolutely true at this point this is it.  j-mart, cap journal guys, radio guys in kc are all on Frank's side.

smellis i'm sure is sucking on currie's teet.

Or his Wife's cookies.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1147591.html

Kellis waits until Meek or Manbeck confirm sources and run their bit before Kellis gets on board.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on January 22, 2010, 11:25:11 AM
but I kind of get the feeling that he's even pissing off the media that cover(ed) ksu bball...they're like "hey idiot, I like covering awesome basketball, so fracking pay him".

if anything can be said to be absolutely true at this point this is it.  j-mart, cap journal guys, radio guys in kc are all on Frank's side.

smellis i'm sure is sucking on currie's teet.

Or his Wife's cookies.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1147591.html

I'm still amazed that a ku grad and/or ku fan was given responsibility for a KSU media source.  Just super insulting to anyone who is a Cats fan.   :yuck:
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
I'm still amazed that a ku grad and/or ku fan was given responsibility for a KSU media source.  Just super insulting to anyone who is a Cats fan.   :yuck:

Yes.  I don't care how many nickels you can save, there's just things you don't do when you know it will break the trust and loyalty with your constituency.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on January 22, 2010, 11:35:53 AM
IF the $800,000 number is correct, that was an absurd offer.  What is that, a .5% raise?  (I'm bad at math, so that's probably wrong.)  That's not even a cost-of-living adjustment.  And, it would keep Martin at the bottom of the league's salary structure.  In fact, it's so absurd I have a hard time believing it's true, and until people start giving solid sources I'll have my doubts.  I mean, if I was Frank's agent, I would've either walked out of negotiations at that point or responded with a $2 million counter-offer.

In any event, this week is the worst possible time for Currie (and KSU's finances) to enter into further negotiations -- that's what he meant by what he said to the Catbackers.  And it makes sense to me.  You ride out this wave and THEN you go back to the table.  Meek started by saying he thinks it'll get done in the end, and I do believe that.  I'm still not melting down.

EDIT: Nevermind, just nevermind.  My crap math skills caused me to make a stupid post.  Maybe Currie doesn't care if Franks stays...
Title: Re: So who will make the firejohncurrienow website?
Post by: Skycat on January 22, 2010, 11:36:16 AM
Yeah, &@#% a website.  Go with a banner flying over the OOD for Gameday.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: PCR on January 22, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
Yeah I think we should see how things play out.  If he wins the ku game, make the $1.5M offer and lock him up for 5 years.  You won't look stupid.  Frank also seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't mind a contract full of incentives.  I think with the economy being in the crapter and the RP/BK robbery Currie is in a bad spot.  I just hope he doesn't end up having a press conference on his drive way.  
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: sys on January 22, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
I just hope he doesn't end up having a press conference on his drive way.  

i can think of no better outcome than martin crushing currie like a dove.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Levi Wolters on January 22, 2010, 12:19:25 PM
I don't like Currie.

Amazing. You're right about everything.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: CatsNChiefs on January 22, 2010, 12:38:21 PM
So WTF?  I demand pictures like the ut pre-game ones, only with the lines in front of curtsey's office and house, round the &@#%ing clock.  Let's go non-pussy students, get it done.

Don't forget to bring stuff to throw, and light on fire, and stab.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: 1992 on January 22, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
Not exactly "confirmed" sis.

offered martin 800k.


http://cjonline.com/interact/blog/austin_meek/2010-01-21/new_c_j_podcast
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on January 22, 2010, 04:03:34 PM
I'm still amazed that a ku grad and/or ku fan was given responsibility for a KSU media source.  Just super insulting to anyone who is a Cats fan.   :yuck:

Yes.  I don't care how many nickels you can save, there's just things you don't do when you know it will break the trust and loyalty with your constituency.

You can't put a price on somethings.  No matter how many pieces of silver you are offered.  Just MHO.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on January 22, 2010, 04:07:12 PM
I'm still amazed that a ku grad and/or ku fan was given responsibility for a KSU media source.  Just super insulting to anyone who is a Cats fan.   :yuck:

Yes.  I don't care how many nickels you can save, there's just things you don't do when you know it will break the trust and loyalty with your constituency.

You can't put a price on somethings.  No matter how many pieces of silver you are offered.  Just MHO.

What are we talking about?
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: YouHaveHugeFitz22 on March 08, 2010, 10:21:32 AM
What a stupid fracking asshole.  :curse:

Thanks for the memories Frank.   :'(

At least we have footba.......... :angry:

I know, right?  Don't say this to the powertards, some of them like Koppe22 will call you an insecure drama queen.  Too bad that guy doesn't post over here any more it would be great to see him contradict himself by playing to the masses of both boards.  The poor bastard wants to be loved so bad.

Have and still do. Good call on Frank leaving moron.
Title: Re: currie's a retard - confirmed
Post by: NYRoyal on March 08, 2010, 06:23:04 PM
Looks like Currie isn't such an idiot after all.  He signed Frank to a great contract for both sides.  Good work.