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Title: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:02:33 AM
I am.   :ksu:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Catmatt on August 06, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
I'm here.  Not sure what questions I have that John could answer.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: g2brg on August 06, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
Yes, just voted.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:09:54 AM
Just voted myself.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Catmatt on August 06, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
me too
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: MadCat on August 06, 2009, 10:18:24 AM
What was the vote for?
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: catzacker on August 06, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
could someone ask Currie if he knows of a good plumber in Pratt?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: j-vonfeldt on August 06, 2009, 10:22:03 AM
I'm part of the family  :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 06, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
It appears that many KSU fans are unfamiliar with how to use this tricky new technology known as a telephone
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: FelixRex on August 06, 2009, 10:28:09 AM
could someone ask Currie if he knows of a good plumber in Pratt?  Thanks.

would be awesome if you actually did this.

"Off-topic here, John, but what's the craziest thing you've ever found while walking through the woods? I'll hang up and listen."
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:31:13 AM
Overall though this is vastly superior than the Krause-Prince cluster f_ck conference call was.    But yes, some folks still have a problem with that tricky telephone.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2009, 10:33:21 AM
any good infro? how come i'm not on this thing.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: FelixRex on August 06, 2009, 10:33:45 AM
Hank will not be nickled and dimed.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:34:05 AM
Come on folks . . . handling fees are the way of the world in the ticket industry, that's just the way it is, deal with it.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: FelixRex on August 06, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
any good infro? how come i'm not on this thing.

ADJC pimped the  :AA:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 06, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
Overall though this is vastly superior than the Krause-Prince cluster f_ck conference call was.    But yes, some folks still have a problem with that tricky telephone.



[breathes into phone]...yea, I'm here....[breathes into phone]....hello?..... yea, I'm here.....[breathes into phone]...hello?.....

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: catzacker on August 06, 2009, 10:45:38 AM
Overall though this is vastly superior than the Krause-Prince cluster f_ck conference call was.    But yes, some folks still have a problem with that tricky telephone.



[breathes into phone]...yea, I'm here....[breathes into phone]....hello?..... yea, I'm here.....[breathes into phone]...hello?.....



 :lol:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
any info? christ, i f*cking hate ksufans.com sometimes.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:53:09 AM
-Better oversight.

-No more payments out of funds that are specifically for short term issues, like tourney travel, team travel etc. etc.   

-Handling fees are unavoidable because there's so few vendors in the ticket industry, with the new computerized tickets etc. etc.  That they have to outsource those things, and some fees are unavoidable.

-Kansas City Market is extremely important (complete change from previous regime)

-Will bring back the Ahearn Fund Board of Directors.

-KSU Athletics Inc. Board will have outside entities on the board.

-Deloitte and Touche hired to review and consult on business processes. 

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 06, 2009, 10:55:08 AM
any info? christ, i f*cking hate ksufans.com sometimes.

Just a bunch of hicks either:
a) bitching about paying too much for something or
b) telling everyone why they are greatest and most loyal KSU fan of them all

Currie is doing a great job, imo.  Hope he can stand the fan base and stays a long time.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
any info? christ, i f*cking hate ksufans.com sometimes.

Just a bunch of hicks either:
a) bitching about paying too much for something or
b) telling everyone why they are greatest and most loyal KSU fan of them all

Currie is doing a great job, imo.  Hope he can stand the fan base and stays a long time.



Yeah, a couple of those, but some good questions.  

Over 2,000 people on the call.

Currie so far vastly superior at these type of things to Weiser and of course Krause.



Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2009, 11:02:35 AM
Someone ask Currie if he will aggresively call for a technical foul if opposing hoops coaches get out of line.  The answer will determine if I like him or not.   :users:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on August 06, 2009, 11:19:20 AM
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-Kansas City Market is extremely important (complete change from previous regime)



Not one to brag but Pete and I are almost single handly responsible for this change.  You are welcome KC EMAW.   :users:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2009, 12:53:45 PM
thanks for the updates. you guys are friends, and i mean that. go cats.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 06, 2009, 01:16:10 PM
Yeah, a couple of those, but some good questions.  

Over 2,000 people on the call.

Currie so far vastly superior at these type of things to Weiser and of course Krause.


Fair enough.  I pretty much tuned out after the mouth-breather, followed by two people who felt it necessary to mention that they were/husband was a former player, had tickets for over 30 years and donate to the Ahearn fund.

I missed the answer to the facilities related question.  What did Currie say about that?

I am very concerned that Currie doesn't "fit" the KSU family mold, and a Urick/Weiser/Krause-type will soon be back to comfort the masses.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 01:31:23 PM
Yeah, a couple of those, but some good questions.  

Over 2,000 people on the call.

Currie so far vastly superior at these type of things to Weiser and of course Krause.


Fair enough.  I pretty much tuned out after the mouth-breather, followed by two people who felt it necessary to mention that they were/husband was a former player, had tickets for over 30 years and donate to the Ahearn fund.

I missed the answer to the facilities related question.  What did Currie say about that?

I am very concerned that Currie doesn't "fit" the KSU family mold, and a Urick/Weiser/Krause-type will soon be back to comfort the masses.



Comfort the masses??   I think most K-State people have had enough of the Urick-Weiser-Krause types . . . look at what that got them/us.   A bunch of good old boys running the place into the ground and making themselves rich . . . at least with Weiser and Krause. 

Insofar as facilities go, he said they were going to pursue them aggressively, but that priorities would change.   Plus keep in mind the Regents told both ku and k-state athletics that they can't borrow any more money unless the project was directly tied to building something that generated revenue to pay off the debt.   So no more millions of dollars of debt for basketball practice facilities, and "athletic villages", all the money is going to have to be raised privately.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on August 06, 2009, 01:35:21 PM
Quote from: spani
Just a bunch of hicks either:
a) bitching about paying too much for something or
b) telling everyone why they are greatest and most loyal KSU fan of them all...

I pretty much tuned out after the mouth-breather, followed by two people who felt it necessary to mention that they were/husband was a former player, had tickets for over 30 years and donate to the Ahearn fund.

I am very concerned that Currie doesn't "fit" the KSU family mold, and a Urick/Weiser/Krause-type will soon be back to comfort the masses.

 :frown:  So sad, and so accurate.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 06, 2009, 03:01:35 PM
Comfort the masses??   I think most K-State people have had enough of the Urick-Weiser-Krause types . . . look at what that got them/us.   A bunch of good old boys running the place into the ground and making themselves rich . . . at least with Weiser and Krause. 


I just meant that the "masses" of KSU fandom will soon be saying that Currie's personality "is not right for KSU", and he doesn't "fit" the KSU persona, so KSU will have to hire some lame-ass, like they have in the past, that will "fit" the crowd that likes to complain because they've had tickets since Ernie Barret was shooting hook shots in Nichols Gym, and now some young whipper-snapper is selling tickets for $25.  In my opinion, the KSU-Family is the reason KSU gets stuck with a bunch of dip-$hits running the show.

On the other hand, if Currie isn't forced to leave because he "doesn't fit", he will soon realize that a bunch of people that bitch about a) selling tickets too cheaply to fill seats or b) having to pay a serivce charge on tickets, makes it impossible to win in the B12, and he will move on as soon as a real program realizes his potential.

I really hope I am wrong about the KSU-family, but my opinion is only re-inforced each time I experience a gathering of KSU fans.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2009, 03:46:32 PM
Comfort the masses??   I think most K-State people have had enough of the Urick-Weiser-Krause types . . . look at what that got them/us.   A bunch of good old boys running the place into the ground and making themselves rich . . . at least with Weiser and Krause. 


I just meant that the "masses" of KSU fandom will soon be saying that Currie's personality "is not right for KSU", and he doesn't "fit" the KSU persona, so KSU will have to hire some lame-ass, like they have in the past, that will "fit" the crowd that likes to complain because they've had tickets since Ernie Barret was shooting hook shots in Nichols Gym, and now some young whipper-snapper is selling tickets for $25.  In my opinion, the KSU-Family is the reason KSU gets stuck with a bunch of dip-$hits running the show.

On the other hand, if Currie isn't forced to leave because he "doesn't fit", he will soon realize that a bunch of people that bitch about a) selling tickets too cheaply to fill seats or b) having to pay a serivce charge on tickets, makes it impossible to win in the B12, and he will move on as soon as a real program realizes his potential.

I really hope I am wrong about the KSU-family, but my opinion is only re-inforced each time I experience a gathering of KSU fans.



Totally agree with that.  I am constantly amazed by the "devaluing the product" crowd and the people who would rather see empty seats than have them full . . . who actually treat having season tickets like something you'd do for a professional sports team rather than treating them as supporting the KSU athletic program.   

The idiots who complain about handling fees don't quite grasp the fact that it's not 1985 and there isn't 20,000 tickets for most games being sold, there's more than twice that many being sold, and that by having computerized ticketing you can actually do things like transfer your tickets to someone else and never leave the seat in front of your computer. 

I worry about the same stuff . . . the people who complain about having mandatory giving for seats, will also be the first ones bitching and complaining when the team isn't any good (or right now when the team doesn't get any better).   It's that kind of crap that will make a smart young administrator like Currie want to bail at the first possible moment.   

We've absolutely got many small time thinking fans, and frankly that's one thing that's held the athletic department back for so long . . .  "Oh gosh Ol Tim's from out there in Great Bend, he's one of us, he understands K-State . . . Tim talks like I do, when Tim says we can't write checks (except big one's to him) it's just like me talking about my crops not coming in, and the gubment farm checks being delayed." 
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Trim on August 06, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
I don't like Currie.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: LynchMob2007 on August 07, 2009, 05:50:44 AM
could someone ask Currie if he knows of a good plumber in Pratt?  Thanks.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Am I missing something here? I'm from Pratt.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2009, 07:22:30 AM
I don't like Currie.

Why . .  just curious.

Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Trim on August 07, 2009, 07:53:44 AM
I don't like Currie.

Why . .  just curious.



Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2009, 08:28:23 AM
I don't like Currie.

Why . .  just curious.



Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

That's a good point . . . that being said, he's only been on the job since June 8th, he didn't exactly walk into the best situation.  He's in the middle of trying to fight a ridiculous employment contract done by his predecessor.  He has to deal with putting another long time worthless athletic department administrator who was given yet another ridiculous employment contract by his predecessor on administrative leave and then deciding what to do with the guy.  He had to can the Business Manager and hire a new one, he's had to try and restore faith in an athletic department that's had one mis-step after another.   He has to deal with an athletic department that was running millions of dollars in the black 2 years ago, to now running a budget deficit in the midst of the worst economic times in 70 years.  

He walked in and immediately had to start implementing entire business process changes as dictated to him by the President and the Board of Regents.   Then to to top it all off, he's had to deal with the, "Why do I have to pay handling charges on tickets" crowd, and the, "I've been a season ticket holder for 149 years and only 10 rows back you're selling season tickets for $99 dollars," people.   Then he's trying to reach out to people, many of whom I still think don't know how to react to a K-State AD who you know, actually wants to talk to them, particularly people in KC, who have seen Currie more times in 3 months than they saw Tim Weiser in 3 years.   Then to top it all off there's still the lingering issues of the old school, lets do everything behind closed doors, lets not talk to anybody or tell anybody anything influences that you know are still around . . . basically the same mindset that got us secret deals with Ron Prince, and $500K loans to athletic directors so he could buy some land to drive his King Ranch Ford F-150 out to and shoot pheasants and then sit by the campfire that night and order pleather jackets on his Blackberry.

But you're exactly right, if by August of 2010, all we hear from John Currie is the same old, "twitter, blackberry, family . . . blah, blah, blah line." line.  With no discernible progress on things like facility improvements and financial improvements and real fund raising.    Then we probably do have nothing but White Ron Prince on our hands.   If by 2011 it comes out that K-State athletics still has significant problems, and Currie says, "we knew all along that was going to happen, we're preparing for 2012 and beyond."  Then yes, you're point is well made, if you hear, "we wanted to build a run and hit athletic department, that's bold and daring."  Then yes, you're spot on.



Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BeaumontCat1% on August 07, 2009, 09:26:23 AM

Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

So what do you want him to talk about?  It seems to me that he is not just talking about twitter and blackberries.  He has removed a couple of guys, which was way past due, and he's done everything I can think of to assure the donors that secret deals are no longer being made and the Wefald/Krause spending-spree is over.  He has done a hell of a job of trying to get some football tickets sold.

He has put a hold on facilities projects, but has said they are still going to be as aggressive as they can under the current circumstances.  I agree that it has only been talk so far with regard to facilities, but I'm not sure what else he can do other than talk when the bank account is empty.

I agree that it's way too early to crown him the next Jeremy Foley or Joe Castiglione, but the fact that he seems to be the polar opposite of Tim Weiser is enough to get me excited.  Of course, we'll see how things progress from here and the ultimate gauge of his success will be if he is able to increase income and hire good coaches.
 



 
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Trim on August 08, 2009, 09:17:47 AM

Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

So what do you want him to talk about?  It seems to me that he is not just talking about twitter and blackberries.  He has removed a couple of guys, which was way past due, and he's done everything I can think of to assure the donors that secret deals are no longer being made and the Wefald/Krause spending-spree is over.  He has done a hell of a job of trying to get some football tickets sold.

He has put a hold on facilities projects, but has said they are still going to be as aggressive as they can under the current circumstances.  I agree that it has only been talk so far with regard to facilities, but I'm not sure what else he can do other than talk when the bank account is empty.

I agree that it's way too early to crown him the next Jeremy Foley or Joe Castiglione, but the fact that he seems to be the polar opposite of Tim Weiser is enough to get me excited.  Of course, we'll see how things progress from here and the ultimate gauge of his success will be if he is able to increase income and hire good coaches.
 



 

Part of the problem is I'm really smart, so almost anyone who has to communicate to bulk KSU fans is going to sound very condescending to me.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2009, 09:23:07 AM

Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

So what do you want him to talk about?  It seems to me that he is not just talking about twitter and blackberries.  He has removed a couple of guys, which was way past due, and he's done everything I can think of to assure the donors that secret deals are no longer being made and the Wefald/Krause spending-spree is over.  He has done a hell of a job of trying to get some football tickets sold.

He has put a hold on facilities projects, but has said they are still going to be as aggressive as they can under the current circumstances.  I agree that it has only been talk so far with regard to facilities, but I'm not sure what else he can do other than talk when the bank account is empty.

I agree that it's way too early to crown him the next Jeremy Foley or Joe Castiglione, but the fact that he seems to be the polar opposite of Tim Weiser is enough to get me excited.  Of course, we'll see how things progress from here and the ultimate gauge of his success will be if he is able to increase income and hire good coaches.
  



  

Part of the problem is I'm really smart, so almost anyone who has to communicate to bulk KSU fans is going to sound very condescending to me.

great post imo
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Legore on August 08, 2009, 10:39:36 AM
I don't like Currie.

Why . .  just curious.



Bad vibe.  Feel like his strategy (perhaps dictated to him by prez) is "I can pacify these rubes by talking about   blackberries and twitter and transparency for quite a while".  And he's probably right.  The whole thing seems very RP-ish when it comes to talking instead of doing.  Maybe I'm just that traumatized from the RP era.  Of course, I was right about him from jump...

I don't get the Prince vibe off him at all.  I never bought into Prince's line of BS it always seemed fake to me from the first time I heard him talk.  Now I'll admit I bought in a little bit after he beat Texas the second time I started thinking there may be something behind all that BS he spews after all.   With Currie I feel like he's saying the right things but there is substance behind what he is saying.  The problem with Prince was never what he was saying it was that there was no substance behind any of it.  He had the huge ego and always talked about himself and  how great he was and the entire thing just reeked of insecurity to me.   The most important differences I see between he and Prince are that Currie is qualified for this job based on his position and experience at Tennessee and he hasn't spent any time talking about how great he it or all the great things he's done.     
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2009, 11:03:04 AM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Trim on August 08, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2009, 11:40:43 AM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.

Good news then because I plan on buying a powerball ticket today.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2009, 11:58:40 AM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.

getting more people to go to football games might be a good start.  who knows, though?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: CaptainCrap on August 08, 2009, 02:05:34 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

It was Currie who did the marketing? It was Currie who thought up all the price points and incentives? Really? OK.

Hypothetical situation what if there are lots of people in the AthDept that are working really hard, and for the first time in yeeeaaarss don't have a couple of Creativity Roadblocks up on top of them? In this hypothetical situation I would say Currie deserves credit for allowing people to do their jobs, but don't I don't think he deserves credit for thinking up and implementing everything that has happened in the last few months, especially the ticket stuff.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: kcchiefdav on August 08, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

It was Currie who did the marketing? It was Currie who thought up all the price points and incentives? Really? OK.

Hypothetical situation what if there are lots of people in the AthDept that are working really hard, and for the first time in yeeeaaarss don't have a couple of Creativity Roadblocks up on top of them? In this hypothetical situation I would say Currie deserves credit for allowing people to do their jobs, but don't I don't think he deserves credit for thinking up and implementing everything that has happened in the last few months, especially the ticket stuff.


Thank god you're here to fight the world's injustices.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2009, 02:51:26 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

It was Currie who did the marketing? It was Currie who thought up all the price points and incentives? Really? OK.

Hypothetical situation what if there are lots of people in the AthDept that are working really hard, and for the first time in yeeeaaarss don't have a couple of Creativity Roadblocks up on top of them? In this hypothetical situation I would say Currie deserves credit for allowing people to do their jobs, but don't I don't think he deserves credit for thinking up and implementing everything that has happened in the last few months, especially the ticket stuff.


Interesting take.  What would you say, hypothetically, would be the biggest changes to the positive and negative with the new regime?
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: Trim on August 08, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.

getting more people to go to football games might be a good start.  who knows, though?  :dunno:

All summer, they've been going on and on about how all fans should know that their donations are being used for the intended purpose.  During the first live chat, after Currie side-stepped a few questions/comments about the hoop facility and reiterated family reunion, transparency, Ask John, etc., I chatted that I wanted my already-made, audit-be-damned hoops donation to go towards the practice facility.  No response.  :dunno:

Whatever.  I just have a bad first impression of him.  I'm kind of a dick.

I'll wait 'til at least October before I star wearing a Fire Currie shirt.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
I'll wait 'til at least October before I star wearing a Fire Currie shirt.  :thumbsup:

Nice.  Timeline and everything for me to beat Trim to the punch.  Hey keitzman, I'll show you tacky.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: BMWJhawk on August 08, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.




Might have to wait a while for that one.
Title: Re: Who is on the conference call . . . .
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2009, 05:16:36 PM
I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

It was Currie who did the marketing? It was Currie who thought up all the price points and incentives? Really? OK.

Hypothetical situation — what if there are lots of people in the AthDept that are working really hard, and for the first time in yeeeaaarss don't have a couple of Creativity Roadblocks up on top of them? In this hypothetical situation I would say Currie deserves credit for allowing people to do their jobs, but don't I don't think he deserves credit for thinking up and implementing everything that has happened in the last few months, especially the ticket stuff.


JFC, that's what good managers do.  Who cares whose idea it was?  Do you really expect him to generate every good idea and then do all the work to make the good ideas happen all by himself?  Because that's really stupid.  He'll get the blame for any significant bad ideas in the future, too, FWIW.  Not the moron that came up with the bad idea years ago but couldn't because Krause didn't let it happen.

The bottom line is something got done under his watch that wouldn't/couldn't get done previously.

I think the way he structured and marketed football tickets is a great example of actually doing something, and doing it well.

I want a basketball practice facility.

getting more people to go to football games might be a good start.  who knows, though?  :dunno:

All summer, they've been going on and on about how all fans should know that their donations are being used for the intended purpose.  During the first live chat, after Currie side-stepped a few questions/comments about the hoop facility and reiterated family reunion, transparency, Ask John, etc., I chatted that I wanted my already-made, audit-be-damned hoops donation to go towards the practice facility.  No response.  :dunno:

Whatever.  I just have a bad first impression of him.  I'm kind of a dick.

I'll wait 'til at least October before I star wearing a Fire Currie shirt.  :thumbsup:

That make sense.  I agree the whole "your money goes to student athletes" was dumb.