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Title: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 23, 2007, 02:09:32 PM
Not related to our team this year or even next year, even though I could see how ties may be made to them.

If you had a choice, would you rather have a team full of great players who all have somewhat equal talent?

Or would you rather have a team full of good players with one superstar of amazing talent?

Discuss.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2007, 02:11:08 PM
Use player examples, plz.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 23, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
I'll do my best.

Team with great talent, distributed equally(Examples from this years Big XII):
G: DJ Augustine
G: Stephon Hannah
F: Richard Roby(stretching, I know, but try to think of his ability as a player and not his team.)
F: Martin Zeno
C: Alecs Maric


Team with good talent and one amazing player(Same scenario)
G: Russel Robinson
G: Aaron Bruce
F: David Hoskins
F: Kevin Durant (Superstar)
C: Jiri Hubalek

That was kinda hard to come up with.  I think I could probably do better, but I'm too lazy to try.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: yosh on March 23, 2007, 02:22:14 PM
I'd rather have a ku-type team (this year) than a UT-type team (this year).  Is that what you are asking?  Having a "go to guy" is over rated.  If you have 5 great players in your starting line-up, your "go to guy" is the guy with the hot hand.  With 4 good (not great) players and one amazing, out-of-this-world talented player, you better hope your superstar doesn't have an off night on a big game.  Everyone else will tend to stand around looking at each other.  
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: sys on March 23, 2007, 02:22:22 PM
are you asking which we think would be more successful?  or, which we would prefer if we assume equally successful teams with different compositions of talent?
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 23, 2007, 02:25:07 PM
are you asking which we think would be more successful?  or, which we would prefer if we assume equally successful teams with different compositions of talent?
Which would be more succesful.

Feel free to answer the second one too, though.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2007, 02:34:27 PM
If you consider Durant to be the only "superstar" caliber player in the league, I'd take team with five great players.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: sys on March 23, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
the five greats for me too.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 23, 2007, 02:46:48 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2007, 02:51:26 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.

Wow.  Didn't realize ku shot 12-30 on FT's that game.  And you guys still blame Dean/Roy.  :lol:

http://www.rockchalk.com/games/g200338.sht
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 23, 2007, 02:52:40 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.
This is a good example of what I'm trying to point out.  Better than the rosters I made up.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 23, 2007, 02:55:16 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.

Wow.  Didn't realize ku shot 12-30 on FT's that game.  And you guys still blame Dean/Roy.  :lol:

http://www.rockchalk.com/games/g200338.sht

I don't blame Roy.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2007, 02:56:58 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.
This is a good example of what I'm trying to point out.  Better than the rosters I made up.

Obviously, ku should have won that game.  They were clearly the better team, and had the more successful season up to that point.  One game examples are bad examples.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: WildWillie21 on March 23, 2007, 02:57:06 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.

Wow.  Didn't realize ku shot 12-30 on FT's that game.  And you guys still blame Dean/Roy.  :lol:

http://www.rockchalk.com/games/g200338.sht


12-30 jesus, I could do that. :eek:
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: catzacker on March 23, 2007, 03:29:30 PM
This reminds me of ku in the championship game against Syracuse.

ku versus Carmelo Anthony.
This is a good example of what I'm trying to point out.  Better than the rosters I made up.

I don't think that's a good example at all. 

ku had 2 great players (Collison, Harry P)....Syracuse had one (Mello).
The rest of each team's roster is fairly comparable. 

The better example for your question is this year ku vs. UT. 

UT has one great player in Durant. The rest are "good". 
ku has a bunch of really good players.  I wouldn't classify any of them as great, but most are above good.

Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: Kat Kid on March 23, 2007, 06:26:42 PM
I'll do my best.

Team with great talent, distributed equally(Examples from this years Big XII):
G: DJ Augustine
G: Stephon Hannah
F: Richard Roby(stretching, I know, but try to think of his ability as a player and not his team.)
F: Martin Zeno
C: Alecs Maric


Team with good talent and one amazing player(Same scenario)
G: Russel Robinson
G: Aaron Bruce
F: David Hoskins
F: Kevin Durant (Superstar)
C: Jiri Hubalek

That was kinda hard to come up with.  I think I could probably do better, but I'm too lazy to try.

Yeah.  Ummmm....I'd take the backcourt of Hannah and Augustin.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on March 23, 2007, 07:27:27 PM


ku has a bunch of really good players.  I wouldn't classify any of them as great, but most are above good.

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Collins, Wright and Rush start on any team in the country (and yes I know Collins doesn't start for ku) that makes 3 of their 5 'great' in my book.  The rest of 'em are better than good.
Title: Re: Hypothetical: Which would you rather have?
Post by: rundown87 on March 24, 2007, 12:43:54 AM


ku has a bunch of really good players.  I wouldn't classify any of them as great, but most are above good.


Collins, Wright and Rush start on any team in the country (and yes I know Collins doesn't start for ku) that makes 3 of their 5 'great' in my book.  The rest of 'em are better than good.
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collins moves too fast for his brain sometimes and just runs around then throws the ball away, rush is very inconsistent, and wright is great. . .when there is no shot clock.