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Title: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2007, 04:41:54 PM
Props to Cartier and Dave.

Akeem gets snubbed for All Defensive team.

http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030407aac.html

PLAYER OF THE YEAR

Kevin Durant, Texas, F/G, Fr., 6-9, 225, Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian

DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE YEAR
Mario Chalmers, Kansas, G, So., 6-1, 195, Anchorage, Alaska/Bartlett
Marcus Dove, Oklahoma State, G/F, Jr., 6-9, 215, Long Beach, Calif./Millikan

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR
**Stefhon Hannah, Missouri, G, Jr., 6-0, 175, Chicago, Ill./Chipola CC/Hyde Park

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR
**Kevin Durant, Texas, F/G, Fr., 6-9, 225, Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian

SIXTH MAN AWARD
Cartier Martin, Kansas State, G/F, Sr., 6-7, 220, Houston, Texas/Nimitz

COACH OF THE YEAR
Billy Gillispie, Texas A&M (Career: 98-56 - 5th season; At A&M: 68-24 - 3rd season)

All-Big 12 First Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Brandon Rush, Kansas   G   6-6   210   So.   Kansas City, Mo./Mt. Zion Academy (N.C.)
Julian Wright, Kansas   F   6-8   225   So.   Chicago Heights, Ill./Homewood-Flossmoor
Mario Boggan, Oklahoma State   F/C   6-7   240   Sr.   Durham, N.C./Hargrave Military Academy/Chipola CC
Kevin Durant, Texas**   F/G   6-9   225   Fr.   Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian
Acie Law, Texas A&M**   G   6-3   195   Sr.   Dallas, Texas/Kimball
Jarrius Jackson, Texas Tech   G   6-2   185   Sr.   Monroe, La./Ouachita

All-Big 12 Second Team                   
David Hoskins, Kansas State   G/F   6-5   225   Jr.   Canton, Mich./Plymouth Salem/Schoolcraft
Cartier Martin, Kansas State   G/F   6-7   220   Sr.   Houston, Texas/Nimitz
Aleks Maric, Nebraska   C   6-11   270   Jr.   Sydney, Australia/Australian Institute for Sport
D.J. Augustin, Texas   G   5-11   175   Fr.   New Orleans, La./Brother Martin
Joseph Jones, Texas A&M   F   6-9   250   Jr.   Normangee, Texas/Normangee

All-Big 12 Third Team                   
Mario Chalmers, Kansas   G   6-1   195   So.   Anchorage, Alaska/Bartlett
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri   G   6-0   175   Jr.   Chicago, Ill./Chipola CC/Hyde Park
Nate Carter, Oklahoma   F   6-6   220   Sr.   San Diego, Calif./UC Riverside
JamesOn Curry, Oklahoma State   G   6-3   190   Jr.   Pleasant Grove, N.C./Eastern Alamance
Martin Zeno, Texas Tech   G   6-5   208   Jr.   Sulphur, La./Sulphur

All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Listed alphabetically by school)
Aaron Bruce (Baylor), Curtis Jerrells (Baylor), Richard Roby (Colorado), Mike Taylor (Iowa State), Darrell Arthur (Kansas), Sherron Collins (Kansas), A.J. Abrams (Texas), Josh Carter (Texas A&M), Antanas Kavaliauskas (Texas A&M)

Big 12 All-Defensive Team                   
Mario Chalmers, Kansas   G   6-1   195   So.   Anchorage, Alaska/Bartlett
Russell Robinson, Kansas   G   6-1   200   Jr.   New York, N.Y./Rice
Marcus Dove, Oklahoma State   G/F   6-9   215   Jr.   Long Beach, Calif./Millikan
Kevin Durant, Texas   F/G   6-9   225   Fr.   Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian
Dominique Kirk, Texas A&M   G   6-3   180   Jr.   Dallas, Texas/Bryan Adams

Big 12 All-Rookie Team                   
Wesley Johnson, Iowa State   F   6-7   195   Fr.   Corsicana, Texas/Corsicana/Patterson School (N.C.)
Darrell Arthur, Kansas   F   6-9   230   Fr.   Dallas, Texas/South Oak Cliff
Sherron Collins, Kansas**   G   5-11   200   Fr.   Chicago, Ill./Crane
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri   G   6-0   175   Jr.   Chicago, Ill./Chipola CC/Hyde Park
Kevin Durant, Texas**   F/G   6-9   225   Fr.   Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian
D.J. Augustin, Texas**   G   5-11   175   Fr.   New Orleans, La./Brother Martin
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: CatMission on March 04, 2007, 04:56:28 PM
Congrats to both on well deserved honors.

 :beerchug:
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Catbanker on March 04, 2007, 04:57:47 PM
kudos to Yay and Dave.  Especially for Cartier to win the inaugural 6th man award.  I agree, Akeem should have been included in the defensive awards.  
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Joker on March 04, 2007, 05:13:41 PM
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Big 12 All-Rookie Team                   
Wesley Johnson, Iowa State   F   6-7   195   Fr.   Corsicana, Texas/Corsicana/Patterson School (N.C.)
Darrell Arthur, Kansas   F   6-9   230   Fr.   Dallas, Texas/South Oak Cliff
Sherron Collins, Kansas**   G   5-11   200   Fr.   Chicago, Ill./Crane
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri   G   6-0   175   Jr.   Chicago, Ill./Chipola CC/Hyde Park
Kevin Durant, Texas**   F/G   6-9   225   Fr.   Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian
D.J. Augustin, Texas**   G   5-11   175   Fr.   New Orleans, La./Brother Martin

Who does Walker replace on this list if he had been healthy all season?
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 04, 2007, 05:20:33 PM
Arthur/Johnson
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on March 04, 2007, 05:23:58 PM
Akeem just doesn't hand check enough.

Is this voted by the media or the coaches?

Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Joker on March 04, 2007, 05:25:13 PM
Also Augustin should be 1st team instead of Rush.

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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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14 Augustin, D.J...... 30-30 1051 35.0 139-290  .479  43-89   .483 128-156  .821   18  66   84  2.8  67  0 205 102   3  46  449 15.0


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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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25 Rush, Brandon...... 31-31  996 32.1 148-345  .429  59-143  .413  70-102  .686   52 125  177  5.7  47  0  57  64  26  11  425 13.7
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: BostonPancake on March 04, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
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All-Big 12 First Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Brandon Rush, Kansas   G   6-6   210   So.   Kansas City, Mo./Mt. Zion Academy (N.C.)
Julian Wright, Kansas   F   6-8   225   So.   Chicago Heights, Ill./Homewood-Flossmoor
Mario Boggan, Oklahoma State   F/C   6-7   240   Sr.   Durham, N.C./Hargrave Military Academy/Chipola CC
Kevin Durant, Texas**   F/G   6-9   225   Fr.   Suitland, Md./Montrose Christian
Acie Law, Texas A&M**   G   6-3   195   Sr.   Dallas, Texas/Kimball
Jarrius Jackson, Texas Tech   G   6-2   185   Sr.   Monroe, La./Ouachita

Rush??!!  First team???  Please.
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Joker on March 04, 2007, 05:26:24 PM
Akeem just doesn't hand check enough.

Is this voted by the media or the coaches?

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The official All-Big 12 awards are selected by the league's head coaches, who are not allowed to vote for their own players.
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: tmramrod91 on March 04, 2007, 05:29:49 PM
Julian Wright first team? Are you kidding me?
The big 12 is down if that guy is one of the 5 best in the conference....
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on March 04, 2007, 05:41:08 PM
Also Augustin should be 1st team instead of Rush.

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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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14 Augustin, D.J...... 30-30 1051 35.0 139-290  .479  43-89   .483 128-156  .821   18  66   84  2.8  67  0 205 102   3  46  449 15.0


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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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25 Rush, Brandon...... 31-31  996 32.1 148-345  .429  59-143  .413  70-102  .686   52 125  177  5.7  47  0  57  64  26  11  425 13.7

Wow...it's not even close.

Rush is streaky...and when he's on, he's damned good.  Just not very consistent.

Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: HawkLegend on March 04, 2007, 06:04:04 PM
Points per game isn't the only statistic that matters to voters.

Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 04, 2007, 06:08:06 PM
Points per game isn't the only statistic that matters to voters.



I agree.

Assists
Augustin      205
Rush            57
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Joker on March 04, 2007, 06:10:10 PM
Points per game isn't the only statistic that matters to voters.



Augustin has better numbers than Rush in every category except for blocks and rebounding.  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: tmramrod91 on March 04, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
Also Augustin should be 1st team instead of Rush.

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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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14 Augustin, D.J...... 30-30 1051 35.0 139-290  .479  43-89   .483 128-156  .821   18  66   84  2.8  67  0 205 102   3  46  449 15.0


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## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
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25 Rush, Brandon...... 31-31  996 32.1 148-345  .429  59-143  .413  70-102  .686   52 125  177  5.7  47  0  57  64  26  11  425 13.7




I didnt realize the disparity in their stats. Defensively I think Rush might be a hair better, but thats the perception since he is going to be guarding wings who are typically better scorers than pgs who augustine has guarded all year.
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: ksu1420 on March 04, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
Points per game isn't the only statistic that matters to voters.



The only category Rush has over Augustin is rebounds and blocks. 
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: HawkLegend on March 04, 2007, 06:32:35 PM
Defense is important, and so is the fact that ku won the Big 12 Championship.  The most talented team in the conference should at least have one guy on the 1st-team All Big 12.  If Rush played for a team like Texas Tech, he'd probably average around 20 points per game.  With ku, there's a different guy that can step up and lead the team in scoring on any given night.

Congrats to Cartier and Hoskins for making 2nd team All-Big 12, by the way.  I have a lot of respect for the way Cartier approached coming off of the bench this season.  Good luck in the Big 12 Tournament.  I would like to see K-State make the Big Dance.
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 04, 2007, 06:35:04 PM
I realize my basketball IQ is like basement-low but I gotta ask, why do they have 6 people on the 1st team?  Did the Aggies patent the 6th Man tradition too?
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Kat Kid on March 04, 2007, 06:47:53 PM
Defense is important, and so is the fact that ku won the Big 12 Championship.  The most talented team in the conference should at least have one guy on the 1st-team All Big 12.  If Rush played for a team like Texas Tech, he'd probably average around 20 points per game.  With ku, there's a different guy that can step up and lead the team in scoring on any given night.

Congrats to Cartier and Hoskins for making 2nd team All-Big 12, by the way.  I have a lot of respect for the way Cartier approached coming off of the bench this season.  Good luck in the Big 12 Tournament.  I would like to see K-State make the Big Dance.

I agree.  Since ku won the conference regular season why isn't the whole team ku players?  They proved they were the best on the court!  What gives?!
Title: Re: Big XII Awards: Hoskins and Martin second team.
Post by: Joker on March 04, 2007, 06:50:31 PM
If you had to choose between Rush and Augustin to fill one of your guard spots, who would you go with?

I'd take Augustin hands down.