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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: michigancat on March 02, 2007, 08:32:17 AM
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Not a chance.
:dancin:
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:confused:
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
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also, who is better than us? we´re top 4 in a top 4-6 conference. so that is top 20, add in a top 1 recruiting class and we are a top 10 school easy. when jobs better than that open up they tend to go to guys coaching ku or ou, so we should be fine.
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This is why I love Tyree coming to KSU. If someone would actually look at what Tyree plead to and the other facts of his case, they'd probably see that it wasn't as severe/major incident (for Tyree anyways)...but people won't and it will be perceived as though Huggins is "reverting" back to his old ways. This just ensures Huggins stays with KSU. Hoskins needs to slightly bump a parking attendant with his car in the off season.
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
I thought that was what you were getting at but I wasn't sure. Apparently OU, ku, and Maryland would still take a chance at Huggins. Well they took a chance at Tyree anyway..
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also, who is better than us? we´re top 4 in a top 4-6 conference. so that is top 20, add in a top 1 recruiting class and we are a top 10 school easy. when jobs better than that open up they tend to go to guys coaching ku or ou, so we should be fine.
touche
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Hoskins needs slightly bump a parking attendant with his car in the off season.
:lol:
:katpak:
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The way that huggs acts with the media I can't imagine after his time in manhattan that he would go to a place that would be a circus around him all the time, I really think manhattan and huggs are a near perfect fit for eachother.
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Nobody has been too critical of him so far.
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We're safe with Huggs. Until we show some sign of weakened administrative support, he's here for the long haul. IMO.
I don't think I'd feel safe if I were an aTm fan though. I would bet Kentucky puts on the full court press for him. Or Arkansas.
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Nobody has been too critical of him so far.
Next year all eyes will be on him. If he farts, the media will know about it.
The media will be all over K-state next season, just like they have been over Texas because of Durant and Ohio State because of Oden. No matter what the K-state basketball image is getting a giant facelift. Our name will be getting out to more recruits out there.
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
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I still think this whole thing is funny. I view K-state to be one of the more conservative public schools in the nation, and we have a coach that is portrayed by a lot of the media to be a deadbeat.
Of course if we hadn't been so conservative, and not played by the rules, then we probably wouldn't have had the 'reputation' to hire Huggs.
Side note: I -love- reading about all the Mizzou fans who wanted to hire Huggins but couldn't. And I -love- reading their lamenting posts when we win and they're stuck with Woolly v2, winning just enough games to keep you interested and get your hopes up, but never accomplishing much. How some will give the "you have to give Anderson time, success isn't immediate in D-1 basketball" and then some bitter MU fan will point out that Huggy is already top 4 after K-state was in the bottom half of the conference for the better part of the decade. Then they'll get into a giant catfight over Huggy being a deadbeat, or why they should have hired him over Anderson, the recruits we're getting, etc etc etc.
Basically, I just love having other schools bitter about our success.
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Huggins isn't going anywhere. He will retire from K-State...
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
I got that, but the felony charge was dismissed. He was only convicted of the misdemeanor assault and battery charges.
Which is normal for any team that wants to win championships.
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No way does gillespie leave college station, they've got more money than god.
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
I got that, but the felony charge was dismissed. He was only convicted of the misdemeanor assault and battery charges.
Which is normal for any team that wants to win championships.
Sweet! The perception is still "felony rapist", however.
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
I got that, but the felony charge was dismissed. He was only convicted of the misdemeanor assault and battery charges.
Which is normal for any team that wants to win championships.
Sweet! The perception is still "felony rapist", however.
I can already hear the chants from the opposing student sections next year: "felony rapist... *clap*... *clap*... *clap clap clap*"
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
I got that, but the felony charge was dismissed. He was only convicted of the misdemeanor assault and battery charges.
Which is normal for any team that wants to win championships.
Sweet! The perception is still "felony rapist", however.
I can already hear the chants from the opposing student sections next year: "felony rapist... *clap*... *clap*... *clap clap clap*"
"NO MEANS NO! NO MEANS NO!"
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IF you wanna be a contender...there will be a necessity to grow a thick skin.
I could care less if the ku fans chanted "DUI" when the team traveled to Lawrence....as much as they probably didn't mind KSU fans chanting "dead beat daddy" when Rush was on the free throw line.
Why? Becuase they beat us. That's why.
Chant and get bitter all you want....throw your barbs....but winning is where the real damage is done to the opponent.
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He recruits felons! He hasn't changed his ways!
Who?
I was playing the part of "perception" for that post.
And I think Tyree is technically a felon.
Not sure.
I got that, but the felony charge was dismissed. He was only convicted of the misdemeanor assault and battery charges.
Which is normal for any team that wants to win championships.
Sweet! The perception is still "felony rapist", however.
Anything that has "felony" in it means we're going for multiple championships.
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He's your coach because KSU hired him. JR stole things, which is a terrible decision. JameSon Curry dealt pot in high school, another bad decision. Decent kids make bad decisions. Hopefully they are punished so they do not make bad decisions again. Not sure if either one fit that mold (decent kid/bad decision), but they definitely didn't do anything to prove they were not decent kids making a bad decision.
Forcible rape of a 15-year old girl is only done by a bad human being. This is not Huggins first recruit that forcibly raped a young girl. Huggins also has had players who tied their roomate to a chair and lit them on fire. Players who beat up women and punch police horses. These are not isolated incidences that can be explained away by hearing the "whole story".
Huggins has a long history, a pattern, of recruiting bad people that continue to be terrible for the society they live in. I seriously wonder why a parent would send their young girl to Manhattan with Huggins' players there.
MCMW
God, ku fans do not want Tyree at KSU.
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I seriously wonder why a parent would send their young girl to Manhattan with Huggins' players there.
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Plazahawk is on a roll.
She claims he DID stick it in her, but whatever. He definitely held her down and has admitted to assaulting her. Even if Huggins's lawyer's fabrication were correct, Evans is clearly a terrible human being.
I seriously think that if this story got more general press there would be a lot of dad's pulling their girls out of Silo this fall.
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Plazahawk is on a roll.
She claims he DID stick it in her, but whatever. He definitely held her down and has admitted to assaulting her. Even if Huggins's lawyer's fabrication were correct, Evans is clearly a terrible human being.
I seriously think that if this story got more general press there would be a lot of dad's pulling their girls out of Silo this fall.
wow...ku fans are sh*tting a brick over this. It's only gonna get better when there is a real rivalry...aka we begin to dominate them. :tongue:
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it would be great if someone could cut and paste over here for those of us who can´t visit over there.
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it would be great if someone could cut and paste over here for those of us who can´t visit over there.
It's basically 133 posts rehashing what has already been shared.
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quantity makes it funny. any fan base can have one or two idiots.
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quantity makes it funny. any fan base can have one or two idiots.
I'll just post my favorites. Copying and pasting the 50 post pages exceeds the character limit. Here's a touching oration comparing Tyree to OJ Simpson.
"Are any of you going to post a link about Evans' rape conviction?"
No. What's the point? Would you argue OJ is an upstanding citizen because he was never convicted of first-degree murder?
Evans was charged with rape & indecent assault along with three of four other guys. KSU fans long maintained that he was misidentified, just nearby but not involved etc etc, and that if he was found GUILTY they would not recruit him, but if found "innocent" like OJ, no problem.
Then ALL the MEN involved (yes, Tyree was over 21) pled guilty contrary to all the BS KSU fans were spouting. In order to spare the 14 or 15 yr old victim, the prosecutor let Evans plead to the reduced charge of assault & battery. Evans lawyer promised that Evans would have no contact with the victim because he was going far, far away-to KS, where he would no longer be a threat to local girls.
His victim said he had did it to her. She had no reason to lie. I've seen no basis anywhere for disputing this or supporting the claim that he was just a "lookout."
After it happened, Cinn. rightly dropped Evans as a recruit. Thuggins brought him out to a KS juco with the clear intent of bringing him in after he was all "rehabilitated" But the KSU AD investigated and decided Evans had far too much baggage (suggesting they found out more things we don't know about)and announced they would not be recruiting him.Then Evans was booted from his Juco team.
Then KSU lost to ku for the 24th year in a row at home and Thuggins decided morals, values, risk to students and community be damned. It's disgusting and shameful. But even more so is the reaction of KSU fans trying to justify it.
Thuggins has consistently recruited felons, assaulters & batterers, rapists, & thieves, justifying it variously as not convicted( victim afraid to testify), second chance, third chance, must let them play until convicted, etc.
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Oh, this one's good:
You're saying San Jose State's reputation didn't take a fall when they hired Tark? Being in the national news as a lawless school is not good for your reputation. Tark's history isn't half as bad as Huggins's.
:lol:
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None of them have figured it out yet...
Tark's hire put San Jose State on the map. Actually, that's the same thing Huggins' hire did for K-State.
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not a well used map apparently.
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Up to 202 tasty gems:
I'd love to know who paid for Evans' lawyer. He's a kid from the projects and criminal lawyers always want their money up front. His lawyer was way more active than typical court-appointed attorneys.
Are you guys that desperate to win some basketball games? Take a minute and think about it. This is really sick, this goes beyond sports. I can't believe that the majority of the KSU fanbase could defend this at any level. Afcat, if you can defend this, may God of mercy on you because this is disgusting.
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Are you aware that Evans used the same defense attorney that Huggins used for his DUI?
This is so much more fun than work.
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I'd love to know who paid for Evans' lawyer. He's a kid from the projects and criminal lawyers always want their money up front. His lawyer was way more active than typical court-appointed attorneys.
Are you guys that desperate to win some basketball games? Take a minute and think about it. This is really sick, this goes beyond sports. I can't believe that the majority of the KSU fanbase could defend this at any level. Afcat, if you can defend this, may God of mercy on you because this is disgusting.
Are you aware that Evans used the same defense attorney that Huggins used for his DUI?
This is so much more fun than work.
WOW. :lol:
I knew they were dumb, but THAT DUMB?
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Cire, never accept Jayhox's word as fact. Evans did not use Huggins' attorney.
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Are you aware that Evans used the same defense attorney that Huggins used for his DUI?
This is so much more fun than work.
A colleague of mine ripped me the other day for introducing her to this site. :lol: She's not a poster but definitely a lurker and can't get enough of this MJRod creation. :thumbsup:
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Cire, never accept Jayhox's word as fact. Evans did not use Huggins' attorney.
Not even CLOSE.
I think he's confusing Tyree with Bill Walker.
Wow. Jayhox just showed his ignorance/idiocy pretty clearly.
What's hilarious is him spouting it off as fact, like he actually knows what he's talking about.
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Plazahawk suggesting that saul register with the police for his stance on Tyree.
1. He'd be the first scholarship athlete to EVER graduate under Huggins' coaching, so it IS a big stretch.
2. He raped and assaulted a 15-year old. Period.
You're a terrible member of the race for even trying to think of ways to defend this low life pond scum. People like you should have to register with the police right alongside Mr. Evans.
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One of the more reasonable Jayhawk posts - not too far off:
And to think, I used to get ripped over on the football boards by KSU fans for saying that Mangino getting caught cheating was a bigger tragedy in the grand scheme of things than him actually cheating.
I love what Huggins is doing to KSU fans.
"Hey guys, did you hear we had a player kicked off the team for sex with an underage girl?"
"You're ******** me. Who was it?"
"Tyler Hughes."
"Oh, well who the **** cares?"
Months later...
"Hey guys, did you hear that we got a verbal commitment from a kid who willingly aided in an act of rape, and was kicked off his junior college team?"
"Oh, God. Who is it?"
"Tyree Evans."
"Huh. Can he play?"
"Yeah, he's pretty damned good."
"Well, you know what I always say. Give him a chance to keep his nose clean. We're all about second chances and redemption here at KSU."
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One of the more reasonable Jayhawk posts - not too far off:
And to think, I used to get ripped over on the football boards by KSU fans for saying that Mangino getting caught cheating was a bigger tragedy in the grand scheme of things than him actually cheating.
I love what Huggins is doing to KSU fans.
"Hey guys, did you hear we had a player kicked off the team for sex with an underage girl?"
"You're ******** me. Who was it?"
"Tyler Hughes."
"Oh, well who the **** cares?"
Months later...
"Hey guys, did you hear that we got a verbal commitment from a kid who willingly aided in an act of rape, and was kicked off his junior college team?"
"Oh, God. Who is it?"
"Tyree Evans."
"Huh. Can he play?"
"Yeah, he's pretty damned good."
"Well, you know what I always say. Give him a chance to keep his nose clean. We're all about second chances and redemption here at KSU."
It's not that reasonable...he's judging the reaction/consequences to both situations...not the fact that in both situations KSU fans felt the same way about the "crime". ku fans wouldn't "care" if Morningstar committed a felony as much as they would "care" if Collins did.
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lew would care if morningstar committed a felony. ever wonder how much bread has poured into lew's coffers with morningstar on scholie?
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Damn those people are ignorant.
If only one of them knew the definition of "statutory rape."
Or maybe if only one of them knew that the charges of statutory rape were lowered to assault and battery AT THE REQUEST OF THE GIRL AND HER FAMILY. Do you really think the girl and her family would request that a rape charge be dropped if he raped or aided in the rape of a girl?
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I still think this whole thing is funny. I view K-state to be one of the more conservative public schools in the nation, and we have a coach that is portrayed by a lot of the media to be a deadbeat.
Of course if we hadn't been so conservative, and not played by the rules, then we probably wouldn't have had the 'reputation' to hire Huggs.
Side note: I -love- reading about all the Mizzou fans who wanted to hire Huggins but couldn't. And I -love- reading their lamenting posts when we win and they're stuck with Woolly v2, winning just enough games to keep you interested and get your hopes up, but never accomplishing much. How some will give the "you have to give Anderson time, success isn't immediate in D-1 basketball" and then some bitter MU fan will point out that Huggy is already top 4 after K-state was in the bottom half of the conference for the better part of the decade. Then they'll get into a giant catfight over Huggy being a deadbeat, or why they should have hired him over Anderson, the recruits we're getting, etc etc etc.
Basically, I just love having other schools bitter about our success.
True Dat.
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They don't even realize that all he did was touch the girl and it wasn't even in a "indecent" manner. I'm thinking he was just there and the father wanted all parties arrested.
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I'm thinking he was just there and the father wanted all parties arrested
You are correct young skywalker!
In regards to Huggins and the rest of the coaching staff. You cannot imagine how much they absolutely love K-State and Manhattan. From Huggs on down, everyone enjoys this town and K-Staters. Anyone notice Huggs hat at the Little Apple New Years party in Aggieville? It was a Western Kansas Feed Lot. Huggs loves the fact that he has a jet he can use to go when needed. Most of the assistant coaches were able to buy nice homes. K-State and Manhattan = Happy Valley West!
After games, you don't ever see the ku coaches out and about in Larryville, but in Manhattan, its a family affair! And I do mean family. The assistant coaches take their spouses and kids out for dinner and feel the love! Huggs and June usually get with them later. 8)
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I'm thinking he was just there and the father wanted all parties arrested
You are correct young skywalker!
In regards to Huggins and the rest of the coaching staff. You cannot imagine how much they absolutely love K-State and Manhattan. From Huggs on down, everyone enjoys this town and K-Staters. Anyone notice Huggs hat at the Little Apple New Years party in Aggieville? It was a Western Kansas Feed Lot. Huggs loves the fact that he has a jet he can use to go when needed. Most of the assistant coaches were able to buy nice homes. K-State and Manhattan = Happy Valley West!
After games, you don't ever see the ku coaches out and about in Larryville, but in Manhattan, its a family affair! And I do mean family. The assistant coaches take their spouses and kids out for dinner and feel the love! Huggs and June usually get with them later. 8)
THEY LIKE US! THEY REALLY REALLY LIKE US!
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If you want to see coaches and other assorted athletes, have breakfast or lunch at a non-smoking establishment on the west side of town that puts First Watch to shame. Huggs usually holds court there with the Weefer usually in attendance lapping it all up! :lick: