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Title: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 04:36:08 PM
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Releford has been on the campuses of Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and Goolsby said the four-star guard would like to see some more.

"He's said he'd like to see Texas, North Carolina and Kansas State," Goolsby said. "Hopefully that can all be worked out."

I wasn't all that impressed when I saw him on TV.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 04:37:18 PM
Meh....he should be a fallback plan if we don't land Warren and Shipman, IMO.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on February 28, 2007, 04:40:08 PM
Yes, the coaches do want him. And they believe they have a very good shot at him.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: DrunkoMcGee on February 28, 2007, 04:41:29 PM
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Releford has been on the campuses of Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and Goolsby said the four-star guard would like to see some more.

"He's said he'd like to see Texas, North Carolina and Kansas State," Goolsby said. "Hopefully that can all be worked out."

I wasn't all that impressed when I saw him on TV.

Yes, you should want him.  No, you won't get him so you probably shouldn't worry about it too much.

It's good to see that Rusty is already starting the spin though.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 04:43:15 PM
Yes, the coaches do want him. And they believe they have a very good shot at him.

Have you talked to Shipman lately?  He would be a solid pickup.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
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Releford has been on the campuses of Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and Goolsby said the four-star guard would like to see some more.

"He's said he'd like to see Texas, North Carolina and Kansas State," Goolsby said. "Hopefully that can all be worked out."

I wasn't all that impressed when I saw him on TV.

Yes, you should want him.  No, you won't get him so you probably shouldn't worry about it too much.

It's good to see that Rusty is already starting the spin though.

Warren is better.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: Snakehead05 on February 28, 2007, 04:48:35 PM
I've seen Relaford play 4 or 5 times this year.  Other than Miege's last game vs. Aquinas, he simply didn't appear to be "all that".  He never looked as impressive as former Miege stars Jamaar Howard (WSU) or Isaac Miles (Creighton).  The biggest difference between Relaford and those two are that TJ is taller.

I never saw a game where he looked like he wanted the ball, or wanted to be the go-to guy.  He didn't "make things happen", but rarely will miss the open looks.

Now, after saying all this, we need to remember that this kid is a junior.  So, he's got some time to mature in the AAU summer league, as well as next season. 

BTW...the big kid (6'11") Miege has impressed me more than TJ.  That kid played meaner than Miege's previous big kid who's now playing for Pepperdine....can't remember either ones name.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: BooyahKU on February 28, 2007, 04:50:02 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 04:50:43 PM
I've seen Relaford play 4 or 5 times this year.  Other than Miege's last game vs. Aquinas, he simply didn't appear to be "all that".  He never looked as impressive as former Miege stars Jamaar Howard (WSU) or Isaac Miles (Creighton).  The biggest difference between Relaford and those two are that TJ is taller.

I never saw a game where he looked like he wanted the ball, or wanted to be the go-to guy.  He didn't "make things happen", but rarely will miss the open looks.

Now, after saying all this, we need to remember that this kid is a junior.  So, he's got some time to mature in the AAU summer league, as well as next season. 

BTW...the big kid (6'11") Miege has impressed me more than TJ.  That kid played meaner than Miege's previous big kid who's now playing for Pepperdine....can't remember either ones name.

So he's pretty much a shorter Cartier?
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: BooyahKU on February 28, 2007, 04:54:16 PM
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Releford has been on the campuses of Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and Goolsby said the four-star guard would like to see some more.

"He's said he'd like to see Texas, North Carolina and Kansas State," Goolsby said. "Hopefully that can all be worked out."

I wasn't all that impressed when I saw him on TV.

Yes, you should want him.  No, you won't get him so you probably shouldn't worry about it too much.

It's good to see that Rusty is already starting the spin though.

Warren is better.

*****>****

c'mon guys, i thought you knew all about the stars.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 04:55:48 PM
Meh....he should be a fallback plan if we don't land Warren and Shipman, IMO.

You have no shot with Warren.  His leaders are ku and Arkansas.

Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 04:58:31 PM
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Releford has been on the campuses of Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and Goolsby said the four-star guard would like to see some more.

"He's said he'd like to see Texas, North Carolina and Kansas State," Goolsby said. "Hopefully that can all be worked out."

I wasn't all that impressed when I saw him on TV.

Yes, you should want him.  No, you won't get him so you probably shouldn't worry about it too much.

It's good to see that Rusty is already starting the spin though.

Warren is better.

*****>****

c'mon guys, i thought you knew all about the stars.

I'm an RSCI guy.  B/w Rivals and Scout, Warren has the highest average ranking.

Meh....he should be a fallback plan if we don't land Warren and Shipman, IMO.

You have no shot with Warren.  His leaders are ku and Arkansas.



Arkansas...LOL.

Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: Snakehead05 on February 28, 2007, 05:02:25 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: DrunkoMcGee on February 28, 2007, 05:05:55 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.

Hey, who is going to be upset when a player of his caliber chooses to pay his own way to come to your school?  There are many players worse than Conner Teahan that are getting full rides to play college basketball next year.  It's what happens when you've got history and been really good for a long time.  Kids dream of playing at your school.

I would say that someday you'll know what that is like at KSU, but I wouldn't want to lie to you.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: Snakehead05 on February 28, 2007, 05:07:49 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.

Hey, who is going to be upset when a player of his caliber chooses to pay his own way to come to your school?  There are many players worse than Conner Teahan that are getting full rides to play college basketball next year.  It's what happens when you've got history and been really good for a long time.  Kids dream of playing at your school.

I would say that someday you'll know what that is like at KSU, but I wouldn't want to lie to you.
Good for you.  Feel free to post pictures of you, Teahan, and maybe TJ walking down Memorial Drive all holding hands.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 28, 2007, 05:07:57 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.

Teahan, Reed, Aldrich.

Yup..the future is bright for ku.

LOL.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 05:08:03 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.

Hey, who is going to be upset when a player of his caliber chooses to pay his own way to come to your school?  There are many players worse than Conner Teahan that are getting full rides to play college basketball next year.  It's what happens when you've got history and been really good for a long time.  Kids dream of playing at your school.

I would say that someday you'll know what that is like at KSU, but I wouldn't want to lie to you.

Ian Campbell
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 05:08:49 PM
he's not a flashy player, you aren't going to be in awe of watching him.  he's a good scorer, good defender, great head on his shoulders, will be very good for a long time.  i WANT him at ku bad.
You've got Conner Teahan.....enjoy.

Teahan, Reed, Aldrich.

Yup..the future is bright for ku.

LOL.

I really can't wait until Wright, Chalmers, Collins, Arthur, and Rush go away.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 05:10:31 PM
SATURDAY’S TOP PERFORMERS

Conner Teahan - Even after leading his Rockhurst team to a tough win over a very talented Bishop Miege squad in an electric environment for high school hoops, the 6-4 wing wasn’t satisfied. Upset that he’d missed too many open shots, Teahan thought the game shouldn’t have been so close. Still, with Bob Huggins and two Kansas State assistants looking on, the senior guard made a ton of big plays and nearly took the house down with a big two handed reverse jam after a steal. He finished with 20 points and seven rebounds but perhaps most important was the excellent job he did defending Miege’s star guard Travis Releford.


Like I've said before, not bad for a walk-on.  Teahan looked more impressive than Releford in a lot of their AAU games with KC Pump-n-Run.  The guy is going to be a solid 4-year player who would probably start a school like Wichita State.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 28, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
What's great is Self will be forced to give the turd a scholarship sometime down the road now with his recruiting going to the crapper.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 05:11:51 PM
Teahan looked more impressive than Releford in a lot of their AAU games with KC Pump-n-Run.

Wow, Releford must really suck.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 05:16:13 PM
Also, why is there not a "Releford to visit KSU" thread on phog.net?

Stunner?
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: Snakehead05 on February 28, 2007, 05:17:21 PM
Like I've said before, not bad for a walk-on.  Teahan looked more impressive than Releford in a lot of their AAU games with KC Pump-n-Run.  The guy is going to be a solid 4-year player who would probably start a school like Wichita State.
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Does Teahan whine about the refs during his AAU games like he does when playing for The Hawklets?  I actually heard his Dad yell from the top of the stands at the Aquinas Tourney "Conner...SHUT UP".  Every game I've seen him play he's whining to the refs every time they call a foul on him.  He's a hothead.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: BooyahKU on February 28, 2007, 05:24:07 PM
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Like I've said before, not bad for a walk-on.  Teahan looked more impressive than Releford in a lot of their AAU games with KC Pump-n-Run.  The guy is going to be a solid 4-year player who would probably start a school like Wichita State.

Does Teahan whine about the refs during his AAU games like he does when playing for The Hawklets?  I actually heard his Dad yell from the top of the stands at the Aquinas Tourney "Conner...SHUT UP".  Every game I've seen him play he's whining to the refs every time they call a foul on him.  He's a hothead.

keep telling your story and someone might believe you.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 05:25:17 PM
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I really can't wait until Wright, Chalmers, Collins, Arthur, and Rush go away.

Players like Romero Osby, Willie Warren, Verdell Jones, Travis Releford, J'Mison Morgan, Clarence Trent, Greg Monroe, Delvon Roe, etc, will take their place.  

Bill Self is one of the best recruiters in the nation, and ku has one of the best college basketball programs of all-time.  It doesn't matter what K-States does.  ku isn't going anywhere.  If a down year for ku is signing a McDonald's All-American center, a 4-star point guard (offers from Georgia Tech, Stanford, Oklahoma, K-State, etc), and a walk-on who was a stand-out for the best AAU team in Kansas City, then I'll take it.


Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 28, 2007, 05:25:53 PM
Aldrich. Please get to ku now. Thanks.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 05:28:21 PM
He can't be any worse than your 5-star center, Jason Bennett. 
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 28, 2007, 05:32:24 PM
Highest viewed cole aldrich related video on youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yVb4EM7T7vc

LOL(s)
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 05:36:19 PM
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I really can't wait until Wright, Chalmers, Collins, Arthur, and Rush go away.

Players like Romero Osby, Willie Warren, Verdell Jones, Travis Releford, J'Mison Morgan, Clarence Trent, Greg Monroe, Delvon Roe, etc, will take their place. 

Travis Releford, Ray Shipman, Tony Woods, Yancy Gates, Xavier Gibson, Jamychal Green, Kenn Kadji, etc.  I can name a bunch of players too!  Your list isn't very impressive.  Oh yea, btw, DeMarcus Cousins.

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Bill Self is one of the best recruiters in the nation, and ku has one of the best college basketball programs of all-time.  It doesn't matter what K-States does.  ku isn't going anywhere.  If a down year for ku is signing a McDonald's All-American center, a 4-star point guard (offers from Georgia Tech, Stanford, Oklahoma, K-State, etc), and a walk-on who was a stand-out for the best AAU team in Kansas City, then I'll take it.

Duke has 3 of them, but only one of their recruits is legit.  Aldrich is not a legit McDonald's All-American.  Bill Walker would have made it, and he's definitely legit. 

Also, why is there not a "Releford to visit KSU" thread on phog.net?

Stunner?

Will investigate.  His update did say he was interested.  I'm not too excited about him.  Would be a great addition to the other stiffs ku is recruiting right now.




Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 05:39:21 PM
Also, why is there not a "Releford to visit KSU" thread on phog.net?

Stunner?

Will investigate.  His update did say he was interested.  I'm not too excited about him.  Would be a great addition to the other stiffs ku is recruiting right now.

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Misread your post.  Will get on it.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 06:22:25 PM
banned :(
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 06:27:55 PM
banned :(

Sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 06:29:52 PM
banned :(

Sorry.  :-[

It's ok.  They know now.  Not a big Releford fan, but I can't even imagine the meltdown that would occur if he committed to KSU.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on February 28, 2007, 06:33:17 PM
banned :(

Sorry.  :-[

It's ok.  They know now.  Not a big Releford fan, but I can't even imagine the meltdown that would occur if he committed to KSU.

Yeah, that would almost make landing our Plan B easy to swallow.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 06:40:33 PM
'Stunner, your problem is that you compare every player to Beasley.  There are only a handful of guys in each recruiting class who have the ability of a Michael Beasley.  Releford is just a solid, top 50 recruit, who plays under control and let's the game come to him.  Not every single recruit is going to be a five-star McDonald's All-American. 

Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 28, 2007, 06:43:47 PM
'Stunner, your problem is that you compare every player to Beasley.  There are only a handful of guys in each recruiting class who have the ability of a Michael Beasley.  Releford is just a solid, top 50 recruit, who plays under control and let's the game come to him.  Not every single recruit is going to be a five-star McDonald's All-American. 



Wouldn't you compare most guys to "the best"?
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: BullHawkWheel on February 28, 2007, 07:00:18 PM
cmon stunner.  i thought you were better than this.  the only way releford goes to ku is if we look somewhere else.  we are leading big for warren and also for it appears we have a good shot at getting monroe, the #1 player in 08,  add osby, who numerous scouts have pegged as a julian wright clone to chalmers collins and aldrich and we will still be loaded.  and we will also probably get either roe(99%unc bound imo, but he is still listening to us), gordon or green.  like i said i know coach zych and its all ku and unc for releford.  it appears unc will back off because they are going to get holiday, roe, samuels, and another 5 star guard as well.  and also xavier henry of 2009 is a lock, and many scouts also project him to be a close second behind cousins or possibly even overtake cousins in the rankings.  one scouts said he was nba ready right now as a soph and another said he was the second best player he has seen in high school regardless of class.  dont try to compete with ku in recruiting.  you got your 1 year superstars but we reload with superstars every year.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on February 28, 2007, 07:03:07 PM
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Wouldn't you compare most guys to "the best"?

That's a pretty vague statement, but I think you get my point.  K-State is going to take the best available talent on the board, regardless of where a player is ranked.  Huggins knows how to build a team, and he realizes that you need a nice blend of players who can work together as a team.  Beasley is a one of a kind.  You can't expect every player in the country to have a Youtube video that shows a guy scoring 50 points in a high-school all-star game.  It's just not realistic.  
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: QuinnMac on February 28, 2007, 08:39:02 PM
Meh....he should be a fallback plan if we don't land Warren and Shipman, IMO.

You have no shot with Warren.  His leaders are ku and Arkansas.



Is Arkansas up there b/c Self will be there next year?
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on March 01, 2007, 05:16:41 PM
According to Rivals, Willie Warren is visiting ku this weekend for the Texas game.  He says ku is the leader for his services. 

Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: treysolid on March 01, 2007, 06:59:23 PM
According to Rivals, Willie Warren is visiting ku this weekend for the Texas game.  He says ku is the leader for his services. 



I immediately ignore all information coming from a place called "jayhawkslant"
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2007, 08:15:00 PM
According to Rivals, Willie Warren is visiting ku this weekend for the Texas game.  He says ku is the leader for his services. 



I immediately ignore all information coming from a place called "jayhawkslant"

Yeah, no info is less credible than a Shay article that has been paraphrased.
Title: Re: Releford...do we really want him?
Post by: HawkLegend on March 02, 2007, 03:47:50 PM
Denial.

 :loly: