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Title: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: PowercatPosse on February 27, 2007, 08:58:34 PM
Our Zone D looks very disorganized right now.   From what i have seen we have not played a straight 2-3 zone or our 1-3-1 with JB in the middle and Stewart running the baseline.

We have some foul issues with Martin and Hoskins now, so i don't know if we go man or make adjustments.  OK ST was red hot in the first half.

Terrell Harris has been wide open numerous times.  Eaton is not a great shooter but he too had 2 wide wide open 3 pt looks
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: rlatta on February 27, 2007, 09:04:36 PM
Why do we look so slow? :confused:
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: AzCat on February 27, 2007, 09:08:32 PM
Why do we look so slow? :confused:

Because, like I've been saying for the last couple of days, they're way more athletic than we are at pretty much every position.
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: rlatta on February 27, 2007, 09:10:05 PM
we just look lazy
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: AzCat on February 27, 2007, 10:22:00 PM
Not lazy, just less athletic and without good ball handling skills.  Our guys are tentative every time they have the ball in their hands, even moreso when they're being closely guarded. 
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: Joker on February 27, 2007, 10:24:12 PM
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Our guys are tentative every time they have the ball in their hands, even moreso when they're being closely guarded.

Stewart/Harris/Wright all fold when pressured.
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: AzCat on February 27, 2007, 10:27:31 PM
Clent did earlier in the year as well but he was way better tonight.  Cartier ... tries.  I don't really understand why Blake & Jermaine didn't play more tonight, they handle the sort of pressure OSU's guards apply better than probably anyone on the team.
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: opcat on February 27, 2007, 10:56:35 PM
Ditto on all your thoughts.  I think you can only scheme so much.  Those guys were nails behind the arc.

OkSt looked like they play at another gear than we do.

 :flush:
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2007, 10:57:58 PM
I didn't understand the zone for most of the second half.
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: ksu_FAN on February 27, 2007, 11:01:34 PM
Its a point zone, so you got to get normal zone rotations out of your head.  We tried a different twist with more a 3-2 look.  The tweaks didn't exactly work, but when you're forced to go to it b/c your studs are in foul trouble really you have to hope you miss shots.

Another thing I laugh at is how coaches are geniuses when zones work, and most of the time zones work b/c they throw teams out of rhythm and they end up missing shots (see our Baylor game).  In reality, OSU probably got the same looks (or worse) but we couldn't knock them out of rhythm and you have a kid get his career high, a walk-on hit a 3, and Curry just make some tough shots, which you sort of expect.  OSU beat our zone.  Live with it.  We had no other option.
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: opcat on February 27, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
ksufan dropping the knowledge.

Dude you going Matrix.  :mad:


 ;)
Title: Re: Our Zone D is a joke tonight
Post by: Kat Kid on February 27, 2007, 11:30:27 PM
Its a point zone, so you got to get normal zone rotations out of your head.  We tried a different twist with more a 3-2 look.  The tweaks didn't exactly work, but when you're forced to go to it b/c your studs are in foul trouble really you have to hope you miss shots.

Another thing I laugh at is how coaches are geniuses when zones work, and most of the time zones work b/c they throw teams out of rhythm and they end up missing shots (see our Baylor game).  In reality, OSU probably got the same looks (or worse) but we couldn't knock them out of rhythm and you have a kid get his career high, a walk-on hit a 3, and Curry just make some tough shots, which you sort of expect.  OSU beat our zone.  Live with it.  We had no other option.

well that and cartier and dave both had 3 and four fouls a piece and were the only two guys who could score....