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Title: choked it away
Post by: jarrr on February 19, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
Cant blame the refs. Cant blame kus superior talent. They still had plenty of opportunities and open shots and missed, especially Hoskins. You cant miss that many bunnies and expect to beat ku. They did do a great job of hiding kus superior athleticism, quickness, and size, but blew it at the FT line and easy shots. This game still doesnt hurt though, as long as they take care of buisness.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: AzCat on February 19, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
Martin 5-13 from the field
Harris 4-13
Hoskins 2-15

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.  We weren't bad from the line @ 70% but at 14-20 we couldn't have scored enough to win there if we'd shot 100%.  Lack of shooters, once again, killed us.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: jarrr on February 19, 2007, 10:44:29 PM
The worst part is, they were fairly open shots they were getting. They couldve won this game, but they had an underpar shooting night. This team needs an athletic big guy who can rebound out of his area and block shots from help defense very badly. Thats why I have been talking up Charlie Coley so much. He is exactly what this team needs.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Meatbag on February 19, 2007, 10:46:27 PM
They just seemed lazy under the basket when it came to getting rebounds.  How many times did one of the big UGLIES for GayU rip the rebound out of one of our players hands?
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: opcat on February 19, 2007, 10:48:26 PM
Scoring will get solved. 

Jarr =  :twobirds:    :lol:   Just kidding!    :fiesta:

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Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Skycat on February 19, 2007, 10:49:11 PM
I don't know that lack of shooters was the real problem.  We don't have any kind of inside scoring presence against ku.  Wright is a flat-out horrible match-up for Hoskins.  Wright is athletic enough, strong enough, and long enough, to give Hoskins real problems.  Hoskins had to try to go to the jump shot, and it just wasn't working.

Without someone in the paint that is a scoring threat, ku could really pressure us on the perimeter.  Yeah, we did miss a couple of open jumpers, but they had hands in our faces more times than not.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: AzCat on February 19, 2007, 10:52:34 PM
The team looked a little sped up shooting on the open looks they had tonight.  They've consistently been bad all year when they don't have time to really square up and get off clean shots and they just didn't have that kind of time tonight.  I have to harp on it but this is a game we would have won if we had someone like Hannah to break down the defense and pass back outside to the shooters.  Clent and Dave did OK the few times they took it in but neither ever makes the pass back and the results in the paint weren't too good for them tonight. 
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: jarrr on February 19, 2007, 10:55:35 PM
They just seemed lazy under the basket when it came to getting rebounds.  How many times did one of the big UGLIES for GayU rip the rebound out of one of our players hands?

Good point, and that has nothing to do with size. They didnt get to enough loose balls either. Those are the things that you have to do to beat a team like ku.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: opcat on February 19, 2007, 10:58:29 PM
I don't know that lack of shooters was the real problem.  We don't have any kind of inside scoring presence against ku.  Wright is a flat-out horrible match-up for Hoskins.  Wright is athletic enough, strong enough, and long enough, to give Hoskins real problems.  Hoskins had to try to go to the jump shot, and it just wasn't working.

Without someone in the paint that is a scoring threat, ku could really pressure us on the perimeter.  Yeah, we did miss a couple of open jumpers, but they had hands in our faces more times than not.

I wanted to see more Afeli and Colon and Bennet posting up damnit!!!!!!

Anyone know why Hugs doesn't allow it when Hoskins has been cancelled ?   :-X
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: jarrr on February 19, 2007, 11:03:06 PM
It really pisses me off that Afeli doesnt play more. He isnt that bad, and can actually catch, score, and rebound. Something Colonett struggles with.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Pike on February 19, 2007, 11:06:35 PM
you guys don't get it. No one on our team can post up and score from the paint. Except Walker maybe.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: EdHarley on February 19, 2007, 11:09:24 PM
I don't think Colon has hands.  I'm serious.  I think he is missing his hands- like his arms end at his wrists.  Every time the dude has a chance to grab a loose ball or rebound, the ball just goes bouncing away from him.  Is there a camp for a guy like Lou?  I can see he's got Tony Kitt-like potential- just needs to harness it.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: opcat on February 19, 2007, 11:11:01 PM
I don't understand Afeli not getting playing time over Colon. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Skycat on February 19, 2007, 11:13:10 PM
I don't know that I expect a guy that launched a free throw about a foot to the right of the rim, to provide too much offense.

At least Colon can make uncontested 15 footers. 

But the whole, "no hands" thing is right on the money.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Meatbag on February 19, 2007, 11:21:06 PM
Colon and Bennett are standing trees at best.  Neither is a scoring threat...and another reason they lost.

But things should be different next year when the majority of Wooly's guys are gone..

I fully expect a win on saturday and I can see them beating the cowpokes down in Stoolwater.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: danconiacopper on February 19, 2007, 11:24:12 PM
LOL @ you KSUckers thinking Beasley is the answer to all your prayers. ku two Beasley's a year, EVERY YEAR! You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him. Your best players are your Seniors. Hahaha....WHITEOUT NEXT YEAR! Might as well give it a try. Anything but that ugly ass purple.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Super PurpleCat on February 19, 2007, 11:28:28 PM
Basketball IQ.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: Pike on February 19, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
LOL @ you KSUckers thinking Beasley is the answer to all your prayers. ku two Beasley's a year, EVERY YEAR! You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him. Your best players are your Seniors. Hahaha....WHITEOUT NEXT YEAR! Might as well give it a try. Anything but that ugly ass purple.

How many all americans does it take to beat KSU by 9? To lose to ORU and DePaul and Tech? Just curious.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on February 19, 2007, 11:48:10 PM
LOL @ you KSUckers thinking Beasley is the answer to all your prayers. ku two Beasley's a year, EVERY YEAR! You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him. Your best players are your Seniors. Hahaha....WHITEOUT NEXT YEAR! Might as well give it a try. Anything but that ugly ass purple.

How many all americans does it take to beat KSU by 9? To lose to ORU and DePaul and Tech? Just curious.
It takes a lot, remember, ku gets everyone's A game.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: tmramrod91 on February 19, 2007, 11:54:37 PM
You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him.

Is this guy for real? Thats why this team won the Vegas classic, with Bill Walker. Thats why Bill Walker dominated a very good USC team. Thats why Bill averaged 15 pts and 6 boards a game. You honestly think anyone would take lance harris or akheem wright over him. Give me a f%ckin break.
ONLY senior we will miss is Cartier. That is it. And i'm pretty sure Mike Beasely will be a more than suitable replacement.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on February 19, 2007, 11:59:13 PM
You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him.

Is this guy for real? Thats why this team won the Vegas classic, with Bill Walker. Thats why Bill Walker dominated a very good USC team. Thats why Bill averaged 15 pts and 6 boards a game. You honestly think anyone would take lance harris or akheem wright over him. Give me a f%ckin break.
ONLY senior we will miss is Cartier. That is it. And i'm pretty sure Mike Beasely will be a more than suitable replacement.
Na, he's right. The guy that played in a handful of games and participated in a handful of practices and still managed to look like the best player on the floor can't possibly help us at all. We should all head to the phog and learn such wisdom.
Title: Re: choked it away
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 20, 2007, 12:00:40 AM
LOL @ you KSUckers thinking Beasley is the answer to all your prayers. ku two Beasley's a year, EVERY YEAR! You're playing better WITHOUT Walker than you played with him. Your best players are your Seniors. Hahaha....WHITEOUT NEXT YEAR! Might as well give it a try. Anything but that ugly ass purple.

ku's never had two #1 players before, let alone one.  At least you guys have a 4 and 3 star player next year.