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Fan Life => The Endzone Dive => Topic started by: cireksu on February 16, 2007, 10:06:27 PM
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It's my favorite show right now, just curious.
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i watch it like a MO FO
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Got any theories?
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yes. the girl that helped kate and sawyer get the boat...(tumor in the back guy's daughter) is also that french ladies daughter....
:fatty:
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Sometimes I pretend that I'm John Locke.
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im not too sure about him. the whole show is odd.
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Did you ever play Myst?
I actually didn't watch the first season and have only seen a couple episodes of the 2nd season but I got hooked. Wikipedia has a lot of cool stuff.
If Hurley or Sayid dies I'll probably quit watching.
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i played myst a couple of times....the first season was great cause it was fresh and new.
hurley is good. sayid is too.
do you have any theories?
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I'm thinking that the guys in the Snow thingy at the end of season 2 saw Michael and Walt's boat on the radar.
based on the previews of next week I wonder if the others are trying to get off the Island as well and are trying to get the lost folks to take over their role on the Island.
Last weeks episode was the best in a long time. the whole time warp thing was interesting.
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I'm thinking that the guys in the Snow thingy at the end of season 2 saw Michael and Walt's boat on the radar.
No, they saw the blast from the hatch imploding. the magnetic anomaly or whatever. And I think just a few of the others want off the island, namely Juliette.
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best show on right now.
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Didn't the guys in the snow call Desmond's ex girlfriend? That is what I thought anyway. The show definately has me hooked.
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Yes she had the picture of the two of them by her bed.
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Which interestingly enough, is the same picture that Desmond has with him on the island. Too many possibilities on how there are two pictures.
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I've been perusing ABC's Lost forums and found a couple things.
1. Desmond really did travel through time in the last episode, per the writers on the recent pod cast (I haven't listened to it.
2. The black and white stones that were found in the caves were also on Desmond's desk in the last episode.
Interesting...
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=1541429&forumStart=0
this "I like Locke" guy is kind of like the hatter of the Lost boards
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Great show. I watched season 1 in a week this summer, season 2 in a week in september after it came out, and watch every week now.
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I was the same way fan, I'm catching up with season 1 now, and am borrowing season 2 so I can see everything that I missed from that soon.
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you guys smell like stale doritos and turd.
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Ok I just read brief plot's for the final shows of the season. This is going to be awesome!
:cheers:
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Yep, just did the same. Looking good. What do you think of the season format? I think I like this year alot better with the 6 straight episodes, then none, then finish with all new. Much better than 2 new 1 repeat, 2 new 2 repeat.
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yes, I like the pace, with no breaks, who wants to see repeats of lost? The show itself is not entertaining, it is the show as an entity and the elaborate story line that entertain, not neccessarily the characters.
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What did you guys think of Mikail being alive and the parachute chick saying that they found the crash and everyone is dead?
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I'm three weeks behind on this damn show and it's pissing me off. But i've been reading up... I think the parachute chick speaks of fake plane wreckage put out by the others to stop search teams.
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We get to find out who Jacob is tonight! YaY!
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I don't remember Jacob being referred to in the first place. A little help...
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Ben has referred to him as a great man. Ben has also expressed that he would rather die than fail Jacob. He was referred to as "Him" in season two and was only named during the first part of this season.
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It's my favorite show right now, just curious.
such a lame powercat type post . . . :sleep:
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It's my favorite show right now, just curious.
such a lame powercat type post . . . :sleep:
Ox sock.
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(spoiler)
And if you thought you saw Jacob in the chair....
You did! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0gqPJaPHoku) (pause at 3:06 mark)
The show is getting "1st season" good again.
Gotta love the Uncle Rico appearance.
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(spoiler)
And if you thought you saw Jacob in the chair....
You did! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0gqPJaPHoku) (pause at 3:06 mark)
The show is getting "1st season" good again.
Gotta love the Uncle Rico appearance.
Back in 1982 Roger WorkMan threw a football over that island.
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i quit watching it.
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i quit watching it.
Haha you're a loser.
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My wife watches it. I tried watching it for a few episodes, but it just got to easy to figure out. After awhile, you just kinda know what's going to happen next, so it's not fun anymore.
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i quit watching it.
Haha you're a loser.
i lost my TV in a fire.
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i quit watching it.
Haha you're a loser.
i lost my TV in a fire.
What a coincidence. I lost my fire in someone's TV.
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not one of your best.
must be a long day.
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I'm really bored. Is it football season yet?
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Don't you guys have a good baseball team?
If somehow K-State makes it, we could play in Wichita.
Lost is one of those shows you've got to start watching from the start. There are strings that it easy to figure out what's going on, then they completely throw you like the last few weeks.
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Don't you guys have a good baseball team?
If somehow K-State makes it, we could play in Wichita.
Lost is one of those shows you've got to start watching from the start. There are strings that it easy to figure out what's going on, then they completely throw you like the last few weeks.
I usually spend a few Saturdays at the Eck each summer but college baseball doesn't exactly inspire a lot of message board activity.
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bump, great premier.
no more baseball butt holes.
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Its good the show is finally going again.
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YEAH, for a whopping 8 weeks. then we're cut off again.
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YEAH, for a whopping 8 weeks. then we're cut off again.
the darkufo site said that they've resumed filming although it's not been reported if this is new filming or finishing something.
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There's a chance the writer's strike may be ending in the next couple of weeks. I read something today that it will take about 6-8 weeks from the strike ending to the delivery of new drama episodes.
So maybe we'll get lucky. :hope:
Good season premier.
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&@#% the writers. mjrod has the whole thing figured out. We can just ask him the who, what, why, and how.
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So MJ--If natalie (parchuter girl, can't remember if that was her name) isn't with penelope's group, why is she here, looking for the island, and why does she have a pic of him and penelope?
I have my theory, but I'll wait for yours.
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The show is much better on DVD imo.
There's nothing worse than waiting a week for a new episode, only to have it be a Jin/Sun flashback.
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So MJ--If natalie (parchuter girl, can't remember if that was her name) isn't with penelope's group, why is she here, looking for the island, and why does she have a pic of him and penelope?
I have my theory, but I'll wait for yours.
Dharma...
duh.
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I've never seen the show.
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I've never seen the show.
You're missing out.
And for those of you that have never watched, you can watch the first 3 seasons here (http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing) for free in HD streaming.
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I too think that the heli guys are dharma that have been looking for the island since the hatch explosion. before the hatch exploded I think that they didn't realize anything was wrong and that been and the origional inhabitants had taken over and killed everyone. However they couldn't find the island because been was blocking all the transmitions.
BUT Penny was obviously looking for it because she had the dudes in the arctic station monitoring so there might be 2 groups.
Still can't figure out Desomonds flashes and the allusions to a space/time shift.
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So MJ--If natalie (parchuter girl, can't remember if that was her name) isn't with penelope's group, why is she here, looking for the island, and why does she have a pic of him and penelope?
I have my theory, but I'll wait for yours.
Dharma...
duh.
copy to wordpad for spoilers--don't ruin it for people who haven't seen it yet! :p
Why would Dharma not be able to find their own island? Why would they need to parachute someone on the island, couldn't they just pull on up to the dock station and do whatever they would like?
I think it's more likely that penelope's dad sent a group to look for him. His intentions are what is unknown--trying to kill him so he never comes back and marries his daughter? Trying to save him for his daughter because he made an effort to be in the race?
Dharma doesn't explain the picture that Natalie had.
Another oddity is why Penelope had people looking around Antarctica (or some where damn cold) for seismic activity? Why would Penny even know that seismic activity would equal Desmond.
I think it's a great show and mjrod is full of crap if he thinks he can figure it all out. There have been numerous turns in this series that no one saw coming...that is what makes it great.
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I have to say I agree on the mjrod is full of crap and knows absolutely nothing about the show and should probably never speak again argument.. Additionally I can't wait for it all to be over so I can buy the whole thing, a bottle of crown and have a dandy good time.
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last night was cool. Very interesting how the "rescuers" knew the flight was a fake assuming those were flash forwards and not flashbacks.
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I'm assuming the rescuer parts were flash backs. if you remember, the "plane" has already been found. Naomi said the plane had been found before she landed on the island.
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I too think that the heli guys are dharma that have been looking for the island since the hatch explosion. before the hatch exploded I think that they didn't realize anything was wrong and that been and the origional inhabitants had taken over and killed everyone. However they couldn't find the island because been was blocking all the transmitions.
BUT Penny was obviously looking for it because she had the dudes in the arctic station monitoring so there might be 2 groups.
Still can't figure out Desomonds flashes and the allusions to a space/time shift.
I would guess the heli folks are sent by Dharma as well. They are after Ben and Ben wiped everyone out at Dharma so it makes sense.
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I'm assuming the rescuer parts were flash backs. if you remember, the "plane" has already been found. Naomi said the plane had been found before she landed on the island.
I don't think that the writers would throw flashbacks in a season with flash forwards, I think they are just at a different time. They knew the plane was fake because they'd already met the survivors.
Just like Jack's first flashforward in the season finale was further into the future than Hurley's flash forward in the Premier.
Also does anyone think that the survivors have turned into the Others? Lock is leading them to the Barracks to live like the others and protect themselves from being found the way the others did?
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I'm assuming the rescuer parts were flash backs. if you remember, the "plane" has already been found. Naomi said the plane had been found before she landed on the island.
I don't think that the writers would throw flashbacks in a season with flash forwards, I think they are just at a different time. They knew the plane was fake because they'd already met the survivors.
Just like Jack's first flashforward in the season finale was further into the future than Hurley's flash forward in the Premier.
Also does anyone think that the survivors have turned into the Others? Lock is leading them to the Barracks to live like the others and protect themselves from being found the way the others did?
That was clearly a flashback when the chick Locke killed was talking to Lt. Daniels. All of the flash*s this week were flashbacks.
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I'm assuming the rescuer parts were flash backs. if you remember, the "plane" has already been found. Naomi said the plane had been found before she landed on the island.
I don't think that the writers would throw flashbacks in a season with flash forwards, I think they are just at a different time. They knew the plane was fake because they'd already met the survivors.
Just like Jack's first flashforward in the season finale was further into the future than Hurley's flash forward in the Premier.
Also does anyone think that the survivors have turned into the Others? Lock is leading them to the Barracks to live like the others and protect themselves from being found the way the others did?
I don't know, Faraday looked pretty choked up when seeing the footage on TV. Of course I guess he could have been being choked up about something that had happened during the "rescue" mission. Actually they have to be flashbacks, cause Naomi was in one, and she's now dead (as far as we know). Plus the black lawyer (Abbadon?) stated to Naomi that there were no survivors, but later on talks to Hurley in the mental hospital. If we could get a date on the "plane discovery" then I guess we'd know for sure. I'm sure someone somewhere caught a date on the newspaper in Tunisia.
And the writers would throw anything they want in to confuse the viewers.
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I'm starting to get frustrated with all the unanswered questions. MJRod, what is the big black smoke monster thing? That's all I want to know.
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I'm starting to get frustrated with all the unanswered questions. MJRod, what is the big black smoke monster thing? That's all I want to know.
Yeah, we're only halfway done though, the producers have said that the important questions would be answered.
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Darhma still doesn't explain why naomi had a picture of dez/penny. Why would you be after ben and bring a picture, looking for dez?
I am interested in why there is a fake plane on the bottom of the ocean. No news broadcast would ever show you a dead guy laying in the cockpit of the plane, underwater.
What are they covering up for?
Is alternate reality a possibility here?
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Darhma still doesn't explain why naomi had a picture of dez/penny. Why would you be after ben and bring a picture, looking for dez?
I am interested in why there is a fake plane on the bottom of the ocean. No news broadcast would ever show you a dead guy laying in the cockpit of the plane, underwater.
What are they covering up for?
Is alternate reality a possibility here?
Maybe Naomi had other reasons for going on the trip as well as her "mission"
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naomi seems like not much more than a mercenary used by Abbadon.
the epi did have flashbacks not forward.
not sure why naomi had the pic. unless penny's father gave it to them in case they found desmond there.
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They're all dead. IMO.
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So MJ--If natalie (parchuter girl, can't remember if that was her name) isn't with penelope's group, why is she here, looking for the island, and why does she have a pic of him and penelope?
I have my theory, but I'll wait for yours.
Did I not mention I stopped watching it?
I'm more into the food network. Lots of drama there.
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Interesting recap:
Here is Jeff Jensen's recap of Confirmed Dead.
I have been told by people who also received preview screeners that they thought last night's episode of Lost, ''Confirmed Dead,'' was flawed. The opening-sequence flashback in which the wreckage of Oceanic 815 was found on the ocean floor was a narrative cheat because it relied on perspectives not known to its character. Similarly, the moment when sisterless secret agent Naomi recalled receiving her Island infiltration orders from castaway-denier Matthew Abbaddon played fast and loose with flashback logic because...well, because Naomi was dead. (Maybe consciousness seeps out slowly on Soul Trap Island.) If Frank Lapidus really landed the freighter chopper as he claimed, how come he woke up so far away from it? (Maybe there's a story to be told there.) And come on: Isn't the whole business of Ben manipulating Locke with the promise of Island secrets getting just a little bit old? (Maybe...nah, you're right about that one.)
Bah! Mere quibbles. For me, ''Confirmed Dead'' was downright alive with fascinating new characters, mind-blowing new possibilities, and exciting new theory fodder. Like this one: I am utterly convinced Charlotte Staples Lewis has been to the Island before. Maybe it was her giggly delight as she splashed about in the Island's inland waters. True, the would-be freighter savior (or devil) could have been celebrating the mere fact that she had survived her harrowing arrival. But there was something more to her reaction something that reminded me of another fantastical tale about an enchanted homecoming. The book is Prince Caspian, by C.S. Lewis, the sequel to The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. The story starts with a chapter called ''The Island,'' in which the Pevensie kids return to Narnia via a mysterious island marked by ancient ruins and odd creatures. First thing they do: play in the water. Maybe I'm just fishing again. But if you think I'm wrong, then you owe me a better explanation why Charlotte Staples Lewis has been assigned a name so conspicuously similar to the author's unfurled handle, Clive Staples Lewis.
(Don't roll your eyes at me especially since we're only getting started! I spent 90 minutes researching Apocalypse Now and by extension the complete canon of Heart of Darkness author Joseph Conrad for Lost resonance thanks to Sawyer's snarky ''Colonel kurtz'' crack. I found some, too: Check out The Shadow-Line, Chance, The Inheritors, and The Secret Agent. And for those who want to take me up on my C.S. Lewis challenge, consider investigating The Space Trilogy. C'mon, people! Support your local library!)
But for the more casual, less geeky Lostophiles who'd rather not engage the show with their English degrees (what else are they for?), the episode was equally worthy of watercooler kibitzing. For example, it looks like a monster more troublesome than Smokey might be setting its sights on the castaways a certain green-eyed bugger named jealousy. The Jack-Kate-Juliet love triangle began to simmer anew. Ben mercilessly taunted Sawyer by poking at his I'm-not-as-good-as-Jack sore spots. And Locke was quietly rocked by Hurley's disclosure that he, too, could dial up Jacob's ghost shack. I don't think Mr. Mystic likes having to share the office of Island high priest with anyone. Hurley's recent flash-forward hinted at a looming rift with Locke; might a disagreement over properly interpreting Jacob be the cause?
But topping the talking points list: that WTF? opening sequence, in which remote-controlled cameras belonging to a salvage vessel called Christiane 1 stumbled upon Oceanic 815 plane, passengers, and all in the Sunda Trench of the South Pacific. (The backstory for Christiane 1 which was actually hunting for the Black Rock was recently told in an online story called ''Find 815.'') Does this wreckage prove that powerful forces are trying to hide the existence of the castaways or does it prove that we're dealing with alternate-reality theory? Our message boards await your quantum leaps of logic.
They also await your reactions to the Freighter Four, whose imminent arrival in last week's season premiere divided the castaways into two tribes: the Jack Pack, cautiously confident that the freighter is their ticket off the Island, and the freighter-fearing Locke Lot. (Or the Ben Bunch, if you share Sawyer's belief that the seemingly leashed Other is still pulling the strings. Killer line: ''It's only a matter of time before he gets us, Johnny. And I bet he's already figured out how he's gonna do it.''). The Freighter Four fell to earth, like the castaways [or Icarus? Lucifer? David Bowie? Pick one we're interactive!]; they had to bail after their helicopter encountered electromagnetic turbulence in the airspace around the Island. Lost has sometimes fumbled the needle when injecting new blood into the narrative. (See: the Tailies in season 2, Nikki and Paulo in season 3.) But here, the show has seemingly scored some primo plasma. The casting of Charlotte (Rebecca Mader), Lapidus (the Lawnmower Man himself, Jeff Fahey), Daniel Faraday (an appealingly quirky Jeremy Davies), and Miles Strom (Kenneth Leung, making a strong impression) totally worked for me, while their intriguing backstories left me jonesing for more. And did you notice that each one corresponded to a member of the Fantastic Four, another quartet of curious characters who fell from the heavens after bumping through a weird-science squall of cosmic rays? For purposes of both analysis and recap, let's take each of them in order of appearance:
Name Daniel Faraday
Island introduction Discovered by Jack and Kate in the jungle shortly after Strom shoved his chicken butt from the chopper. (''Hey, genius! Go!'') J&K were clearly puzzled by Daniel's jittery quirkiness and deeply alarmed by the poorly hidden pistol on his belt and the gas mask in his luggage.
Occupation Socially awkward physicist, though ''physicist'' is too small a word for the eccentric egghead. ''I guess you could call me a physicist,'' he later told Sayid. ''I don't like to be pigeonholed.''
Fantastic Four analogue Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic), socially awkward physicist, whose body is as elastic as Faraday's view of himself.
Name game Daniel was an Old Testament prophet who survived the lions' den and interpreted dreams for Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon. Michael Faraday was a pioneering scientist in the fields of electricity and magnetism. Remember when Daniel noted how the sunlight ''doesn't scatter quite right'' on the Island? Exactly the kind of anomalous phenomenon Michael Faraday might have noticed.
Backstory intrigue According to Naomi, Faraday is a ''headcase.'' We got a taste of that in his flashback. While watching news coverage of Oceanic 815's (faux?) discovery, Faraday, dressed in jammies and robe, began to tremble with emotions he couldn't explain as if experiencing a deeply disturbing bout of dιjΰ vu. It reminded me of ''Flashes Before Your Eyes,'' when Island Desmond projected his mind through time and left Flashback Desmond feeling seriously discombobulated. Is Daniel destined to dance the time-warp shuffle, too?
Name Miles Strom
Occupation Ghostbuster + hustler = Ghosthustler! Miles can commune with the spirits of the deceased; he vetted Jack and Kate by psychically interviewing Naomi, whose mortal remains he dismissed as mere ''meat.'' I wonder what Miles is going to make of the holy trinity of Island spectral entities: Jacob, Christian Shephard, and Ghost Walt.
Island introduction Found on the windswept rocks near the shoreline by Jack, Kate, and Faraday. He appeared to be unconscious but was playing possum and popped up with gun drawn. Remember Naomi's dying words last week? According to Strom, ''Tell my sister I love her'' was code for ''Ugh! They got me! Bring weapons!'' Hence, Strom's haughty guardedness.
Name games ''Strom'' is an anagram for ''storm,'' which befits his blustery personality. But ''Miles Strom'' sounds very close to ''maelstrom,'' a wickedly strong whirlpool. (Shall we plum Edgar Allen Poe's ''Descent Into the Maelstrom,'' about a whirlpool that destroys a fishing vessel?) (No, we shall not.)
Fantastic Four analogue Johnny Storm, the hotheaded Human Torch, as fiery as Strom's temper and wit. When Sayid suspiciously inquired as to why Miles and Daniel weren't surprised to find the castaways alive if the outside world considered them dead, Strom sarcastically responded, ''Oh my God! You guys were on Oceanic 815! Wow! That better?'' Even Sayid seemed to smirk at that one.
Backstory intrigue Strom was hired to scare away the ghost of a murder victim (a drug dealer, it seems) who was haunting his grandmother's house. The eerie exterminator plugged in a portable cold generator (chilled air flushes out lurking spirits, according to poltergeist lore), meditated himself into a twitchy state of mind, and then shook down the specter for his secret stash of cash. Surely Dr. Stantz would not approve, though Dr. Venkman might. Creepy, hilarious, so very cool. (Is Scammy Strom greedy enough to resort to grave desecration if Nikki and Paulo blab to him about the diamonds buried with them? Would Lost risk provoking our N&P-hating wrath to tell us that tale?)
Name Charlotte Staples Lewis
Occupation Cultural anthropologist.
Island introduction After her splash-about, Charlotte was discovered by Locke's crew as they were hiking to the old Dharma barracks. She was stunned to find them alive or at least pretended to be but then grew weary of Locke's third-degree and bossiness. ''Me Tarzan. Me survive Ben bullet because of missing kidney, convenient plotting, and Magic Healing Island. You White Devil Freighter Woman come to ruin my good thing. You be prisoner and clean the Dharma latrine.'' Then Ben grabbed Karl's gun and shot her. So much for the homecoming party!
Backstory intrigue Bribing her way onto a hush-hush archaeology dig in the deserts of Tunisia, Dr. Lewis discovered a polar bear skeleton (!) and a Hydra Station collar buried in the rocky soil. Charlotte's face lit up; clearly, she had a hunch and perhaps feverish hope about what she was going to find. (My skeleton theory: Dharma was using the polar bears as guinea pigs for teleportation and/or time-travel experiments. Why? To invalidate the God-killing theory of evolution by planting false evidence in Earth's fossil record, of course!)
Fantastic Four analogue Susan Storm, the FF's token female, whose ''hard light'' powers were handy for conjuring bullet-repelling shields and making herself invisible. Wanna bet Charlotte is hiding something about herself something that's right in front of us but we can't see? Something besides a bulletproof vest? More on this in a minute.
Name Frank Lapidus
Occupation Pilot; also ''a drunk,'' according to Naomi. And since he sports the required accessory for spiritually wasted TV boozers a scruffy beard she must be right. (But since it's only a small beard, maybe he's only a little boozer.)
Island introduction Found by Jack's crew. Despite the electrical storm, Lapidus managed to land the helicopter, the sight of which caused Jack, Kate, and Sayid to beam like kids on Christmas morning.
Name game Lapidus is a type of granite.
Fantastic Four analogue Ben Grimm, who piloted the team's ill-fated spaceflight through a storm of cosmic rays and was transformed into the sad-eyed, rock-encrusted Thing for his trouble.
Backstory intrigue While watching coverage of the Oceanic 815 salvage, Lapidus became convinced the corpse in a pilot's uniform couldn't really have been the plane's pilot because he wasn't wearing his wedding ring. Of course, we have reason to know he's correct. After all, we saw the pilot get eviscerated by the Monster in the first episode. But how could Lapidus be so certain? Because he used to work with Capt. Seth Norris (Heroes' Greg Grunberg in a still-photo cameo) at Oceanic Airways. Lapidus, in fact, was originally scheduled to sit in Oceanic 815's captain's chair. (Did you try calling the number on Lapidus' TV screen? It's 888-548-0034 and it works.)
Clearly, the Freighter Four have more secrets to spill, not to mention their own private agendas. But we were told their primary common objective for coming to the Island. Their job initiated by Abbaddon, the creepy suit who last week harassed Flash-Forward Hurley at the mental hospital isn't to rescue the castaways but to abduct Ben. (''Their mission is a man,'' to borrow the tagline from Saving Private Ryan, which featured a brilliant performance by Jeremy Davies as a courage-challenged soldier.)
While the Jack Pack wrapped their mind around that revelation, the Locke Lot was on the verge of screwing things up for the Freighter Four by assassinating their quarry. The όber-Other begged for his life by pulling the old I'll-tell-you-secrets trick, but Locke called his bluff with a dead-serious question encoded with a slight wink at the audience: ''What is the Monster?'' Ben looked baffled, then said, ''I don't know.'' Locke cocked the gun, and with no choice but to come clean, Ben blurted out Charlotte's complete rιsumι. How does he know so much about Freighter Girl? ''Because I have a man on their boat!''
So who could it be? The safe bet would be ex-castaway Michael: If you've been reading the press about the new season of Lost, you know that at some point Harold Perrineau will be returning to the show. But what if Ben's lying? What if his spy isn't a man but a woman the same woman he just tried to kill? What if he and Charlotte are in cahoots and that shooting business was all a ruse another move in Ben's 20,000-steps-ahead-of-everyone Island chess game? Theories! I have tons more of them, including the logic-tortured argument that Charlotte is the daughter of Ben's Dharma-days gal pal Annie. (Do the research they look a lot alike!)
But it's time for me to turn the space over to you for your thoughts and quibbles. Did you dig Superhero Jack as much as I did? (''I don't know, Miles how stupid are you?'') Do you think something dark is brewing inside Sawyer? How did you like Locke's disclosure that he's taking orders from Ghost Walt? And hello, Vincent! Post
Source: EW
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who is sayid trying to kill?
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I'm guessing anyone that finances, calls shots, or has any significant power in Darma and wants to find the island and retake control.
But the better question would be "who is sayid NOT trying to kill?"
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Interesting theory i found is that the guy sayid killed on the golf course was the boss of the chick he met becaus sayid told ben that they'd now know he's coming and the golf course guy obviously got freaked out when sayid told him who he was.
the girls boss that sayid is looking for was on the island when he paged her because the page came later than she thought and there is a time lag on the island.
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I'm gonna disagree. They didn't know it was Sayid with the golf guy, or the golf guy would have known when he first saw sayid to get the hell outta there.
But they did know it was sayid (because she told her boss on the phone) coming after them after the girl was killed.
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when sayid told him who he was after the bet, the guy was shaken and tried to get out of there after inviting sayid to join him playing.
when sayid told him his name he knew he was in trouble.
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:woohoo:
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I read in an interview with the producers somewhere that the flashbacks in each episode are played in chronological order, and they pointed out this question in specific, so the golfer was killed before sayid met the girl. case closed.
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I so called last night's episode in the first minute. It was way too obvious.
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3 people already asked me this today so I thought I would clarify it for anyone else who missed it.
Kate's baby of future = Aaron = Claire's baby from the island.
Also--The baby does not have downs (we would already know this if he did)...it was just a really odd angle.
:cyclist:
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I so called last night's episode in the first minute. It was way too obvious.
yes, it was so obvious that miles was going to extort ben for 3.2 mill.
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I so called last night's episode in the first minute. It was way too obvious.
yes, it was so obvious that miles was going to extort ben for 3.2 mill.
That was pretty funny, you have to admit. NOBODY saw that coming...and it was so uncomfortable/odd too because you were expecting him to read his mind or some how do something to find out more information from Ben...or perhaps why they hate him so much.
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So I take it the way they are answering previous questions about the island is simply coming up with newer, more bizarre ones so everyone forgets the old ones.
Really though, great show. The new twists have made this season start off with a bang.
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So I take it the way they are answering previous questions about the island is simply coming up with newer, more bizarre ones so everyone forgets the old ones.
Really though, great show. The new twists have made this season start off with a bang.
The producers have said that some questions will remain unanswered(?) ie: the numbers.
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I so called last night's episode in the first minute. It was way too obvious.
yes, it was so obvious that miles was going to extort ben for 3.2 mill.
I was referring to the END, about Aaron. That pretty much wiped away half the episode for me.
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So I take it the way they are answering previous questions about the island is simply coming up with newer, more bizarre ones so everyone forgets the old ones.
Really though, great show. The new twists have made this season start off with a bang.
The producers have said that some questions will remain unanswered(?) ie: the numbers.
This makes me sad. I want all questions to be answered. Like these:
What is the smoke monster?
What's up with the bears?
What was the purpose of the whole countdown/magnet thingy?
Why can Desmond see the future?
What is Darma exactly?
Why can John walk?
Why do pregnant people die?
What the crap is going on with Walt?
What's up with that Jacob guy?
Is he real?
How are the numbers relevant?
Why is Hurley still really fat?
Where did the cabin go?
How does that Miles guy talk to dead people?
What is Ben and his crews purpose on the island?
Who is really on the boat?
Feel free add to my list or answer any questions. And don't give me your stupid theories, only real answers please.
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So I take it the way they are answering previous questions about the island is simply coming up with newer, more bizarre ones so everyone forgets the old ones.
Really though, great show. The new twists have made this season start off with a bang.
The producers have said that some questions will remain unanswered(?) ie: the numbers.
This makes me sad. I want all questions to be answered. Like these:
What is the smoke monster? I think it's the black trail of whatever surrounding Jacob's cabin and Jacob controls it
What's up with the bears? They had bear cages on the island. Dharma performed tests on them. This has been answered.
What was the purpose of the whole countdown/magnet thingy? The island has a huge magnetic force, the countdown gently releases it. Like a dam releasing water that builds up. This has been answered.
Why can Desmond see the future?
What is Darma exactly? A group that performs test on the island- they were wiped out by the "purge". This has been answered.
Why can John walk? The island can heal people. John significantly responds to this. Exactly how Bernards wife (can't remember her name) is no longer suffering from cancer.
Why do pregnant people die? Nobody knows this yet. It's probably just an effect of my answer previous to this.
What the crap is going on with Walt? It's not Walt. It's Jacob.
What's up with that Jacob guy? Good question.
Is he real? Yes.
How are the numbers relevant? Nobody is sure this will get answered. This is one of the questions I want answered most.
Why is Hurley still really fat? Not much time has passed on the island. Only 3-4 months. They're well fed from the darma supplies.
Where did the cabin go? Jacob is controlling it. Much like he controls the smoke monster and "Walt."
How does that Miles guy talk to dead people? He extorts money from people. He may really talk to them, but from what I've gathered, he is an extortionist (see his time with Ben).
What is Ben and his crews purpose on the island? Their purpose on the island is to inhabit it and reep it's benefits without outside interaction.
Who is really on the boat? This should be answered soon.
Feel free add to my list or answer any questions. And don't give me your stupid theories, only real answers please.
In all honesty, people are way too impatient with this. They heard Lost was good, they watched the first couple of seasons on DVD so they got everything as fast as they could watch, and now that they are watching with the rest of us, either sit back and enjoy it or stop watching and wait for the DVD. People complain about their impatience way too much. Go watch Eli Stone or something.
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My post was not intended for you. I was talking mainly to those nerdy guys that read show summaries and stuff on the internet. Also, I've been watching Lost on TV since the beginning, so just shut up and leave me alone.
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Read the quoted. I answered your questions. Quit being so sensitive, If you find that offensive, you may want to leave this forum.
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Oh, I didn't look in the quote box, thanks for those answers. Also, I didn't find anything offensive, sometimes I just like to tell people to shut up on the internet because I'm afraid to do it in real life. Sorry dude.
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Shut up.
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The Walt thing is what I want to know about more than anything. After the first season it seemed like it was the biggest issue and that the entire plot included him. Now we don't ever hear about him except for Lockes crazy hallucinations.
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spoiler about Walt
Michael is on the boat, most likely "Ben's Man on the Boat"
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spoiler about Walt
Michael is on the boat, most likely "Ben's Man on the Boat"
Oh snap. But that doesn't explain anything about Walt.
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question... the walt that appeared to Locke when he was in the mass grave, do you think that was jacob projecting walt, or walt projecting walt?
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I think it was jacob projecting Walt, but I do think that walt could have some part to play bc he was "special" had powers to make things appear that he wanted to.
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I think you all forgot about the salt that was on the ground surrounding the old building where Jacob was...What about the real others, how come they just disappeared the last few episodes? Surely they are coming up with a way to get Ben back. Why couldn't of been them that put the salt around jacobs hut (salt is something you throw around a house if it's haunted).
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2 Islands, they're hiding on the 2nd Island.
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OMG.
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it wasn't salt, it was ash.
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ash can also be used to 'remove spirits' can't it? I am also pretty sure that first EW article on here states the same things.
Just saying there are 2 islands and that the others are there doesn't make a lot of sense considering they were already on the main island before locke/ben split up, right?
We have also seen that apparently the others just walk around any time they want around the island, unless you believe that was something jacob is throwing out there with a stuffed bear dragging behind.
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Wow. That was one of the most incredible episodes ever.
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Wow. That was one of the most incredible episodes ever.
qft
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Wow. That was one of the most incredible episodes ever.
qft
Desmond is brutal. Hate him.
Penny, on the other hand ... :love:
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ash can also be used to 'remove spirits' can't it? I am also pretty sure that first EW article on here states the same things.
Ash is used to contain spirits, so the circle of ash around the cabin would be used to keep Jacob in.
Crap, I'm two episodes behind right now. holding out until the new TV gets here. then it will be a three episode marathon.
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love this season. absolutely love this season. keep waiting for crap epi's but they just won't come.
:woohoo: