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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: StuMondo on February 05, 2007, 04:21:06 PM
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Maybe I am reaching here but it seems to me that NU's 12 preferred walkons compare very well to KSU's 13 two-star scholarship commits. You would have to give the edge to KSU but only a slight edge.
Lets compare...
NU's 12 Preferred Walk Ons had no other DI offers but they all had DII offers, most from very respected programs like NWMS and UNO.
8 of KSU's 13 two-star commits only had offers from KSU. Only three of KSU's 13 two-star commits had more than two offers.
Again I may be way off in comparing the two but it certainly seems like many of our preferred walkons could 'hang' with many, if not most, of KSU's two-star commits.
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I wonder if the two teams were to play in the recruit bowl national championship who would win?
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Great, maybe in 2 or 3 years, Slashahan will only be losing 3 or 4 games a year at Cornhole State.
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Damn, if 18 of both teams 22 starters get hurt, that would be a heck of a game.
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Great, maybe in 2 or 3 years, Slashahan will only be losing 3 or 4 games a year at Cornhole State.
Nebraska continues to improve. With an upgrade at QB in Keller, all of the other offensive skill players back, and improvement in the secondary, we should have a good season this fall. The schedule is tough, but I think a return to a BCS Bowl is not just possible, but likely.
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Great, maybe in 2 or 3 years, Slashahan will only be losing 3 or 4 games a year at Cornhole State.
Nebraska continues to improve. With an upgrade at QB in Keller, all of the other offensive skill players back, and improvement in the secondary, we should have a good season this fall. The schedule is tough, but I think a return to a BCS Bowl is not just possible, but likely.
I hope you realize that you just graduated the Big XII Offensive Player of the Year. Let's not build up the expectations too high here.
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Graduated a Big 12 Offensive player of the year and replace him with a Heisman candidate. I love it!
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html (http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html)
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22-15 13-12
LOL.
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Graduated a Big 12 Offensive player of the year and replace him with a Heisman candidate. I love it!
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html (http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html)
Sad day for the Big 12 when mediocrity personified wins the Big 12 offensive player of the year.
Heisman candidate . . . Cornhole State fans are so funny. Hey, if the kid can sit out a year, and then go out and win the Heisman in REAL games in an entirely new offense, all the power to ya. The rest of the world says it ain't happening.
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Graduated a Big 12 Offensive player of the year and replace him with a Heisman candidate. I love it!
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html (http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/012307aai.html)
...or is it with a guy who couldn't start for his previous team so he transferred?
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According to several of the defensive players, Keller regularly torched them in practice. The consensus among the team was that Keller was substantially better than Taylor last season, and probably would have started if eligible.
So we have just about everybody back on offense, and a considerable upgrade at QB. It should be fun to watch.
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22-15 13-12
LOL.
17-9 with the Big 12 Offensive Player of the year (2006) at the helm.
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Keep thinking Keller isnt any good.
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22-15 13-12
LOL.
17-9 with the Big 12 Offensive Player of the year (2006) at the helm.
Ohh! 17-9 after I picked out his best two years and left out his worst! Incredible coach! LOL's
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Nebraska had the 79th ranked pass defense in the country last year, what QB didn't torch them??
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22-15 13-12
LOL.
17-9 with the Big 12 Offensive Player of the year (2006) at the helm.
Ohh! 17-9 after I picked out his best two years and left out his worst! Incredible coach! LOL's
Our worst year was when we had Joe Dailey as our QB. Joe Dailey's career stats:
52.5% completion
24 TDs
29 INTs
interception thrown every 17.4 attempts
the season he started here at NU he threw 19 INTs, the most in the country.
Does that fall on Callahan?
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22-15 13-12
LOL.
17-9 with the Big 12 Offensive Player of the year (2006) at the helm.
Ohh! 17-9 after I picked out his best two years and left out his worst! Incredible coach! LOL's
Our worst year was when we had Joe Dailey as our QB. Joe Dailey's career stats:
52.5% completion
24 TDs
29 INTs
interception thrown every 17.4 attempts
the season he started here at NU he threw 19 INTs, the most in the country.
Does that fall on Callahan?
Yes. It's his job to bring in a QB. That is part of coaching.
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bring in a quality QB in 3 weeks?
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bring in a quality QB in 3 weeks?
Prince did. Stoops did. That's their job.
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in his first full recruiting year, he recruited a JC kid that ended up being the Big XII Offensive POTY. How's that? Is that ok with you or also unacceptable?
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in his first full recruiting year, he recruited a JC kid that ended up being the Big XII Offensive POTY. How's that? Is that ok with you or also unacceptable?
He's 22-15.
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Nebraska had the 79th ranked pass defense in the country last year, what QB didn't torch them??
How about yours? What was the score from that game again?
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I view, and most rational people do, Joe Dailey as an outlier.
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According to several of the defensive players, Keller regularly torched them in practice. The consensus among the team was that Keller was substantially better than Taylor last season, and probably would have started if eligible.
So we have just about everybody back on offense, and a considerable upgrade at QB. It should be fun to watch.
This is the same Keller that had 5 int's against USC when ASU played them?
Yeah, we want Sam Keller there..
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I view, and most rational people do, Joe Dailey as an outlier.
Do you think the defense (including 45 points given up to a 4-7 KSU team) was an issue as well?
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This is the same Keller that had 5 int's against USC when ASU played them?
Yeah, we want Sam Keller there..
In that game, ASU was hopelessly overmatched, losing badly, and Keller had to force the ball. He's an amazing talent, considered a top prospect by the pro scouts, and all of the news coming from practices indicates that he's picked up the offense very quickly.
He'll be even better next year than Taylor was this year. That's almost a certainty.
You can spin it however you want. I'd rather have Keller next year than "Soul Glo."
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This is the same Keller that had 5 int's against USC when ASU played them?
Yeah, we want Sam Keller there..
In that game, ASU was hopelessly overmatched, losing badly, and Keller had to force the ball. He's an amazing talent, considered a top prospect by the pro scouts, and all of the news coming from practices indicates that he's picked up the offense very quickly.
He'll be even better next year than Taylor was this year. That's almost a certainty.
You can spin it however you want. I'd rather have Keller next year than "Soul Glo."
No it's not a certainty at all. Wanting a player who's been out for over a year and half, susceptible to injury and you're telling me you want that kind of player who's never played a full season over a talent like Josh? And you only get the guy for (maybe) a year?
OK. Husker Logic isn't working very well.
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Keller has played, and played well against top-flight competition. He's a legitimate pro prospect, who has spent the last year absorbing the offense. He has a cannon arm, can make all of he throws, and has proven in practices that he can run this offense smoothly, in fact even more smoothly than the reigning Big 12 Player of the Year.
Freeman showed some potential this past year. He looks like he'll end up being a good QB. it remains to be seen however if he'll develop into the kind of talent than Keller is.
If I had to choose between three years of Freeman and one year of Keller, I would lean toward Freeman, his character issues notwithstanding. But for next year, I'd rather have Sam Keller running my offense.
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Keller has played, and played well against top-flight competition. He's a legitimate pro prospect, who has spent the last year absorbing the offense. He has a cannon arm, can make all of he throws, and has proven in practices that he can run this offense smoothly, in fact even more smoothly than the reigning Big 12 Player of the Year.
Freeman showed some potential this past year. He looks like he'll end up being a good QB. it remains to be seen however if he'll develop into the kind of talent than Keller is.
If I had to choose between three years of Freeman and one year of Keller, I would lean toward Freeman, his character issues notwithstanding. But for next year, I'd rather have Sam Keller running my offense.
Now Husker fan is equating practice to game day?
Are you guys really reaching that low to say "Oh well, he plays well in practice.."
He's never played a complete season.. ever.. in college. Now you're trying to tell me he's better than Taylor simply because your anemic secondary watched him throw great passes during practice?
I'm just amazed that 7 months from the start of fall practice, you're already trumpeting your Big 12 Championship on a QB has yet to prove himself in a gameday under Callahan, much less lead any team to a championship.
I applaud your efforts for propping up someone so much, you're willing to believe potential over results.
:beerchug:
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...his character issues notwithstanding.
Oh snap...a jab at Freeman for changing his choice of colleges. Good one. :rolleyes:
Or are you referring to the fact that Mr. Keller exhibited some "character issues" by transferring tucking tail and running when things didn't go his way? RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! I will say at least Sammy first tried the "Crouch Plan" when things turned sour for him. It didn't work for him, so slinking away he went. Hey, maybe that's where he got the idea to transfer to NU? :thumbsup:
Clarify please.
And I see the "Husker-hype Machine" is in full swing. Accolades. Accolades. Best ever. Accolades. :jerkoff: Trouble is, they all come from folks with just a smidge of bias.
Thunder anyone? :lol:
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that was borderline genius
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Now Husker fan is equating practice to game day?
Are you guys really reaching that low to say "Oh well, he plays well in practice.."
He's never played a complete season.. ever.. in college. Now you're trying to tell me he's better than Taylor simply because your anemic secondary watched him throw great passes during practice?
I'm just amazed that 7 months from the start of fall practice, you're already trumpeting your Big 12 Championship on a QB has yet to prove himself in a gameday under Callahan, much less lead any team to a championship.
I applaud your efforts for propping up someone so much, you're willing to believe potential over results.
He's a top pro prospect, who has proven he can play against big time collegiate competition. He's looked better in practice than Taylor, and it's the opinion of many of the defenders that if eligible he would have been the starter this year over Taylor. Just to review, that's the same Taylor that Freeman realized he wouldn't be able to beat out, thus the transfer to K-State.
So Keller > Taylor > most QBs in the Big 12 > Freeman
Oh snap...a jab at Freeman for changing his choice of colleges. Good one.
No so much the change, and the way he did it...after being committed for some time, he didn't even have the courtesy to call.
Or are you referring to the fact that Mr. Keller exhibited some "character issues" by transferring tucking tail and running when things didn't go his way?
At least he had the class to tell them he was transferring.
I will say at least Sammy first tried the "Crouch Plan" when things turned sour for him. It didn't work for him, so slinking away he went. Hey, maybe that's where he got the idea to transfer to NU?
You are of course referring to Eric Crouch, the Heisman trophy winning QB from Nebraska. How many Heismans has K-State won? Ever?
And I see the "Husker-hype Machine" is in full swing. Accolades. Accolades. Best ever. Accolades.
Who won the division last year? Who won it in part by coming down to Manhattan and rolling some pretenders? LOL.
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22-15 13-12
Hilarious.
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Hilarious.
No, what's hilarious is the way you characterize Nebraska as a mediocre team, and yet manage to get rolled by them year after year.
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Hilarious.
No, what's hilarious is the way you characterize Nebraska as a mediocre team, and yet manage to get rolled by them year after year.
22-15 13-12 speaks for itself.
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22-15 13-12 speaks for itself.
No, getting rolled by Nebraska at home, ending up in the Texas Bowl, and having a weak recruiting class speak for themselves.
How are you guys going to compete if the coaches keep leaving, and the players won't even visit? Most of the members of your recruiting class are guys who weren't even recruited by anyone else.
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No, 13-12 in conference play is the definition of mediocre. That's three years.
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No, 13-12 in conference play is the definition of mediocre. That's three years.
Big 12 North Champions who came to Manhattan and rolled you, and ended up in the Cotton Bowl
vs.
Big 12 North also-ran who lost to Baylor, finished barely above .500, ended up in a made-up Bowl game, and can't buy a decent recruit.
Nuff said.
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Man, I'm really getting you to show your true colors.
Anyway, enjoy that big 12 north title. This isn't the last 90's or early 00's when it actually meant something.
In the mean time, try figuring out how your coach has nearly the same winning % in conference play as ron f-ing prince.
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Isn't LaMark, like, ranked higher than every Nebraska recruit?
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Fat fat dumb cat. Do a lude.. Watch next years Prince record. He'll do better in year three..
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Man, I'm really getting you to show your true colors.
Anyway, enjoy that big 12 north title. This isn't the last 90's or early 00's when it actually meant something.
In the mean time, try figuring out how your coach has nearly the same winning % in conference play as ron f-ing prince.
I was trying to be nice. Then in typical K-State fashion, people saw need to rip on Keller and Nebraska. Not sure what your fixation with Nebraska is, probably just a symptom of your massive inferiority complex.
Nebraska and K-State are not ever in the same ballpark in terms of talent and potential right now. Look at your recruiting class for instance...how many of those guys would even be allowed to walk-on at Florida? USC? Nebraska?
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We're not even in the same ball-park talent wise, yet we win about the same amount of games.... Speaks volumes about eachothers coachign staff, no?
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We're not even in the same ball-park talent wise, yet we win about the same amount of games....
You're right about the talent, but wrong about performance. We rolled you last year in Manhattan, and won the Big 12 North. We'll roll you again this year in Lincoln and win the Big 12 outright.
It's great to be a Husker fan. :)
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sorry to confuse you... I was referring to your post stating the talent was way off.... And yes, I would say that the performances were about the same; And sorry... You had a 2 win edge on us... Not that big of a gap, especially, considering our south performance blows yours out of the water.... I know.... BAYLOR... they hung 17pts. on us... big deal.
Here's one for you...
OSU 41 pts? :eek:
If it wasn't for your lucky win at TAMU and pinkles choke-a-thon.... you wouldn't have even been in KC in december. :twobirds:
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Yep . . . worst 3 year run at NU since the late 50's, but it's "Great to be a Husker Fan".
It took Tom Osborne 7 or 8 years in the mid 80's to early 90's to lose as many games as Slashahan has lost in 3. Back then Cornhole State fans were not very happy with Tom Osborne. Today it's "Great to be a Husker Fan". How times have changed.
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sorry to confuse you... I was referring to your post stating the talent was way off.... And yes, I would say that the performances were about the same; And sorry... You had a 2 win edge on us... Not that big of a gap, especially, considering our south performance blows yours out of the water.... I know.... BAYLOR... they hung 17pts. on us... big deal.
Why is performance against the South relevant? Way to reach for some way to crow about your team. We beat you head to head....on your field....and it wasn't even competitive. How you did against some third team that we both played is irrelevant.
We're on our way back to national prominence. You're mediocre and bringing in a class of recruits no one else was even interested in.
Here's one for you...
OSU 41 pts?
Again, we rolled you....at home...on your field...in a game that was over before it started. I think our starters likely get a better workout against the scout team than they did against K-State.
You got pounded by Rutgers, and lost by 27 points, in a game that wasn't even that close. You squeaked out a 1 point win against Illinois State, lost by 14 to Baylor in a game where you managed a lonely field goal, got pounded by Nebraska and Missouri, and Kansas almost doubled up on you...
and your comeback is that NU had a bad game against Oklahoma State?
:lol: :lol:
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I wasn't aware that beating KSU by 18 pts. meant that you were on your way back to national prominence. In fact, the only comparison I was making was your top 10 talent managed a measly 2 more wins than our top 50 talent in a weak conference. You should be running the table against "weak teams like us” but you're getting smoked by teams like OSU.
Look for one thing that illustrates I'm "crowing" for my team. I'm well aware of the teams that we lost to, and by how much. Which is exactly why I’m not going to rival forums and bragging about what we’re going to do next year?
You suck nearly as much as we do is the point I'm making.... So for every embarrassing loss to Baylor you bring up, I can just bring up your coaches inability to do anything note worthy with players that Baylor could win a NC with. You suck at life, flaming, and football.
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"Yes. It's his job to bring in a QB. That is part of coaching."
well, we didn't have a job to offer anyones father like KSU did, so we did the best we could. interesting. If joe daily starts one game this year he will actually have played and started at qb for 4 different coaches.
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Klown Staters,
You should consider yourselves lucky. You are going to witness firsthand the incredible talent that is Sam Keller. Without question he will be the best QB in the Big XII next year. Look for NU to get Big XII Offensive Player of the Year 2 years in a row and look for Sam Keller to torch your purple secondary. I can't wait.
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It doesn't matter how good Keller is. Callahan will continue to run the ball. He loves running the clock down. (Even when he's losing by double digits..)
You've got to admit it's hilarious that a kid who hasn't played since his sophomore year and his former teammates refused to play with is being hyped as a heisman candidate. Especially considering the playcalling Callahan's been displaying with the run first, pass only to open up the run or on a trick play, mentality.
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his former teamtates refused to play with him? are those the former teamtes who voted him team captain or the former teamtes, led by soph qb rudy carpenter who threatened to transfer unless carpenter was named starter? because there seems to ne about 2 sets of team members, the few that blackmailed the now unemplyed coach and the 95 or so otehr guys.
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lets say sam keller is good, how long do you have him? one year
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yes, just one year. Then all we have is the #1 juco qb in the nation with 4 years to play 3 and one of the better qb's from texas who moved in from arkansas and played just one year there
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So what you're saying is, in about 2 or 3 years, NU will only be losing 2 or 3 games a year.
NU . . . the Big 12's new Juco U.
Hypocrites.
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yes, just one year. Then all we have is the #1 juco qb in the nation with 4 years to play 3 and one of the better qb's from texas who moved in from arkansas and played just one year there
Another example of PurpleCobra who stated he was a "KSU fan".
Explain this to me. You have a committment from a JUCO QB with 4 years to play 3? Who is it?
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"Explain this to me. You have a committment from a JUCO QB with 4 years to play 3? Who is it?"
Lee, the only juco qb of the class
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He only had 1 offer.
From Nebraska.
I've seen a lot of four star JUCO recruits with zero offers.
I find that funny.
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thats juco recruiting for you. they can't go by number or quality of offers because not many of the big boys go after jucos. I like this guy though. He has 3 years of playing time and a rs if he needs it. Not a bad deal. OU wanted him to visit but he told them no. And OU won't offer a nu commit under those conditions, it's a arrogance thing
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Lee looks to be a stud, and has a great arm and is mobile enough to be a threat to run as well. He's the odds-on starter after Keller graduates.
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Hopeful optimism...
Keller has shown at ASU that he can compete with top talent. Above average arm strength, quick release, nice deep ball.
Freeman is a physical freak. Moves very good, can take off if need be. Needs a few more reliable players around him to fully realize his potential.
Both teams (and their fans) have great reason for hopefull optimism. If Keller keeps his mistakes to a minimum, I like NU to win the North and have a very legit shot at the Big 12 title. KSU and Freeman might be 2-3 years from being consistent enough to play for a title of some kind, but they've already shown the potential, when the stars align, to knock off a big time team.
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"and yet manage to get rolled by them year after year". what's the series record over the past 8-10 years? look at the scores. i don't think 27-25 is getting rolled. 21-3 in not getting rolled. 38-9 is getting rolled, but that is just the score we put up on you a couple of years ago.
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Hopeful optimism...
Keller has shown at ASU that he can compete with top talent. Above average arm strength, quick release, nice deep ball.
Freeman is a physical freak. Moves very good, can take off if need be. Needs a few more reliable players around him to fully realize his potential.
Both teams (and their fans) have great reason for hopefull optimism. If Keller keeps his mistakes to a minimum, I like NU to win the North and have a very legit shot at the Big 12 title. KSU and Freeman might be 2-3 years from being consistent enough to play for a title of some kind, but they've already shown the potential, when the stars align, to knock off a big time team.
Freeman's leaving though.. :frown:
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Hopeful optimism...
Keller has shown at ASU that he can compete with top talent. Above average arm strength, quick release, nice deep ball.
Freeman is a physical freak. Moves very good, can take off if need be. Needs a few more reliable players around him to fully realize his potential.
Both teams (and their fans) have great reason for hopefull optimism. If Keller keeps his mistakes to a minimum, I like NU to win the North and have a very legit shot at the Big 12 title. KSU and Freeman might be 2-3 years from being consistent enough to play for a title of some kind, but they've already shown the potential, when the stars align, to knock off a big time team.
Freeman's leaving though.. :frown:
Nice try waks... :lol: