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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: catfan28 on January 22, 2007, 12:19:00 PM
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Very fun to play with...... :popcorn:
http://www.notnothing.net/bball/b12mbb.php
Here is what I came up with:
Big 12 Standings
1. Kansas (15 - 1)
2. Texas (12 - 4)
3. Oklahoma State (11 - 5) Defeated Texas A&M based on draw.
4. Texas A&M (11 - 5) Lost to Oklahoma State based on draw.
5. Kansas State (10 - 6)
6. Oklahoma (9 - 7) Defeated Texas Tech based on South Division record.
7. Texas Tech (9 - 7) Lost to Oklahoma based on South Division record.
8. Missouri (6 - 10)
9. Iowa State (5 - 11)
10. Baylor (3 - 13) Defeated Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
11. Nebraska (3 - 13) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
12. Colorado (2 - 14)
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SWEET
Without thinking too hard:
1. Kansas (14 - 2)
2. Texas A&M (13 - 3)
3. Texas (11 - 5)
4. Texas Tech (10 - 6)
5. Oklahoma State (9 - 7) Defeated Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
6. Kansas State (9 - 7) Lost to Oklahoma State based on head-to-head record.
7. Iowa State (7 - 9)
8. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Defeated Baylor based on head-to-head record.
9. Baylor (6 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (5 - 11)
11. Missouri (4 - 12)
12. Colorado (2 - 14)
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We really need mizzou to beat a few south teams at "MA"
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It would be really &@#%ing emberassing if four south teams finish ahead of us. Seriously.
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My quick and dirty attempt:
Big 12 Standings
1. Kansas (15 - 1)
2. Texas (13 - 3)
3. Texas A&M (12 - 4)
4. Oklahoma State (11 - 5)
5. Texas Tech (10 - 6) Defeated Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
6. Kansas State (10 - 6) Lost to Texas Tech based on head-to-head record.
7. Oklahoma (6 - 10)
8. Iowa State (5 - 11) Defeated Missouri based on head-to-head record.
9. Missouri (5 - 11) Lost to Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
10. Baylor (4 - 12)
11. Nebraska (3 - 13)
12. Colorado (2 - 14)
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MRED = MJRods evil, Portugese twin
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MRED = MJRods evil, Portugese twin
That was funny Saul. ;)
Actual MRED is an Iowa State dude.
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The only thing I learned from this is that I am a huge optimist. After filling it out, KSU ended 3rd in conference with 4 losses, ahead of ku based on tie break. I am probably full of crap
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It would be really nice if Hilton Magic came through against Tech. We need at least one north team to beat them.
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ku 14-2
aTm 12-4
Texas 12-4
OSU 11-5
T Tech 10-6
Ksu 10-6
Iowa St 6-10
Mizzou 5-11
OU 5-11
Baylor 4-12
Nubb 3-13
CU 2-14
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MRED = MJRods evil, Portugese twin
Cousin.. dammit. COUSIN!
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(I posted this as a separate thread before jmlynch1 pointed out to me that this thread exists. Whoops. Glad I spent all that time diagramming this out. :banghead: )
So, being the nerd that I am, I sat down tonight and drew out a little diagram of the Big XII schedule, filled in the conference results so far, and predicted the remainder of the conference season, using two basic guidelines: 1) all things being equal, the home team in Big XII play will win, and 2) the top 5 teams in the south are as good or better than everyone but ku in the north. Where those guidelines didn't help, I made the call myself based on my impressions of the teams thus far and what seemed to be the most likely result.
In a nutshell, the results were that our supposed advantage in having more games against the NorTards and allowing the South to beat each other up is largely a myth. Unfortunately, the immense level of suckitude in the North, combined with the retention of Baylor as the SouTard, mean that in order for us to finish higher than 6th, we're going to have to outperform expectations, perhaps significantly (ie, by as many as 2 games).
My schedule grid resulted in the following final conference standings:
1) ku, 14-2.
2t) aTm, 11-5. *
2t) UT, 11-5.
4t) OSU, 10-6. **
4t) TT, 10-6.
6) KSU, 9-7.
7) OU, 8-8.
8 ) MU, 7-9.
9t) NU, 5-11. ***
9t) ISU, 5-11.
11) BU, 4-12.
12) CU, 2-14.
* For the purposes of the Big XII tourney, aTm wins the 2nd spot based on the coin-flip tiebreaker.
** For the purposes of the Big XII tourney, OSU wins the 4th spot based on the division record tiebreaker.
*** For the purposes of the Big XII tourney, NU wins the 9th spot based on the division record tiebreaker.
Thus, the conference tourney would shape up as follows:
5) TT vs. 12) Colorado
6) KSU vs. 11) BU
7) OU vs. 10) ISU
8 ) MU vs. 9) NU
1) ku vs. 8 ) MU
2) aTm vs. 10) ISU
3) UT vs. 6) KSU
4) OSU vs. 5) TT
1) ku vs. 5) TT
2) aTm vs. 3) UT
1) ku vs. 2) aTm
Under this scenario, KSU would finish at 21-12, and I would think be the first Big XII team out of the tourney, as my schedule grid doesn't include any remaining wins over a "marquee" team. We'd probably wind up with a couple of NIT home games. Maybe WSU could come to town...providing we pack Bramlage for the rest of our conference season. Otherwise, we'd probably get to go to WSU.
Now, the best shot we would have at making the tourney based on my schedule grid would be by beating Texas or OSU. Beating Texas would drop them and raise us into a four-way tie for 3rd place, giving us the 5th seed in the tourney, it would also give us a nice win for the resume, it would raise our record to 22-11, and it might even give us a shot at getting to 23-10 because of a better shot at winning the second game of the tourney vs. Tech. Beating OSU would drop them to 6th place and raise us into a tie with Tech for 4th place, but still a 5th seed in the tourney since we lost to them. As with beating Texas, this would give us another shot at Tech in the second round of the tourney, with the possibility of finishing 23-10 with a nice win for the resume. Beating ku wouldn't help us as much in the conference race, although it would give us the best win for our resume.
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who do you think we lose to from the North besides ku?
Also, Bslimz, you should check out that link at the top, it saves a lot of work and you can re-hash all sorts of possibilities.
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who do you think we lose to from the North besides ku?
Also, Bslimz, you should check out that link at the top, it saves a lot of work and you can re-hash all sorts of possibilities.
I'm not sure who...I just think we'll probably go 5-1 against the tards. For the sake of my diagram, I penciled in @ Nebraska, which seemed the most probable given the rule about winning at home and the fact that Colorado sucks.
Yeah, I should've paid closer attention.
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I agree that @NU is our biggest "trap game" when it comes to the NorTards. The fact that all 4 top south teams are relatively equal kind of hurts us. We'll be lucky to sneak into 5 without pulling an upset.
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My predictions gave me this:
1. Kansas (14 - 2) Defeated Texas A&M based on head-to-head record.
2. Texas A&M (14 - 2) Lost to Kansas based on head-to-head record.
3. Oklahoma State (13 - 3)
4. Texas Tech (11 - 5) Defeated Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
5. Kansas State (11 - 5) Lost to Texas Tech based on head-to-head record.
6. Texas (10 - 6)
7. Oklahoma (6 - 10)
8. Baylor (5 - 11) Defeated Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
9. Nebraska (5 - 11) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
10. Iowa State (4 - 12)
11. Missouri (2 - 14)
12. Colorado (1 - 15)
I had us win all of the games we are supposed to and pull off an upset over ku. I just think we will beat one out of ku, OSU, and UT. But we are also likely to drop to a NorTard once so...
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bump
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The way I have it...a loss to UT means 6th in the league, a win 4th. Weird.
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The way I have it...a loss to UT means 6th in the league, a win 4th. Weird.
Exactly the same thing for me. I don't like the match up that the Big XII tourney gives us if that is the cast though. It would be against UT.. :frown: If we end up being fourth in the Big XII w/ 21 wins, does it matter whether or not we win a tourney game??
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This thing is killing a lot of time that I should be spending on work.
I'm having a hard time getting us to dip below 4th at this point.
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Looks about right to me:
1. Kansas State (14 - 2)
2. Texas (12 - 4) Defeated Texas A&M based on South Division record.
3. Texas A&M (12 - 4) Lost to Texas based on South Division record.
4. Texas Tech (11 - 5) Defeated Kansas based on head-to-head record.
5. Kansas (11 - 5) Lost to Texas Tech based on head-to-head record.
6. Oklahoma State (8 - 8)
7. Oklahoma (7 - 9)
8. Iowa State (6 - 10) Defeated Missouri based on head-to-head record.
9. Missouri (6 - 10) Lost to Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (4 - 12)
11. Baylor (3 - 13)
12. Colorado (2 - 14)
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1. Texas A&M (13 - 3) Defeated Kansas based on head-to-head record.
2. Kansas (13 - 3) Lost to Texas A&M based on head-to-head record.
3. Kansas State (12 - 4)
4. Texas (11 - 5) Defeated Oklahoma State based on record against #4 South Division teams.
5. Oklahoma State (11 - 5) Lost to Texas based on record against #4 South Division teams.
6. Texas Tech (9 - 7)
7. Oklahoma (7 - 9)
8. Iowa State (6 - 10)
9. Missouri (5 - 11)
10. Baylor (3 - 13) Defeated Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
11. Nebraska (3 - 13) Defeated Colorado based on North Division record. Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
12. Colorado (3 - 13) Lost to Nebraska based on North Division record.
Hmm...apparently I'm an optimist all of a sudden.
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Big 12 Standings
1. Texas A&M (14 - 2)
2. Kansas (12 - 4)
3. Kansas State (11 - 5)
4. Oklahoma State (10 - 6) Defeated Texas based on record against #1 South Division teams.
5. Texas (10 - 6) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #1 South Division teams.
6. Texas Tech (9 - 7) Defeated Oklahoma based on record against #1 South Division teams.
7. Oklahoma (9 - 7) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #1 South Division teams.
8. Nebraska (5 - 11) Defeated Missouri based on head-to-head record.
9. Missouri (5 - 11) Lost to Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
10. Iowa State (4 - 12) Defeated Baylor based on head-to-head record.
11. Baylor (4 - 12) Lost to Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
12. Colorado (3 - 13)
I have the south (particularly OSU, UT, OU, and Tech) beating each other up, to our advantage while the Cats finish 5-3. Possible rematch with Tech in round one and 3rd game with the Hawks in round two.
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If only...... (crossing my fingers)
1. Texas A&M (14 - 2) Defeated Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
2. Kansas State (14 - 2) Lost to Texas A&M based on head-to-head record.
3. Texas Tech (12 - 4) Defeated Kansas based on head-to-head record.
4. Kansas (12 - 4) Lost to Texas Tech based on head-to-head record.
5. Texas (9 - 7)
6. Oklahoma (8 - 8)
7. Oklahoma State (7 - 9)
8. Missouri (5 - 11)
9. Baylor (4 - 12) Defeated Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (4 - 12) Defeated Iowa State based on North Division record. Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
11. Iowa State (4 - 12) Lost to Nebraska based on North Division record.
12. Colorado (3 - 13)
KSU wins out, and revenges Tech and then A&M in the Big 12 tourney, winning the tourney.
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Big 12 Standings
1. Texas A&M (14 - 2)
2. Kansas (13 - 3) Defeated Oklahoma State based on head-to-head record.
3. Oklahoma State (13 - 3) Lost to Kansas based on head-to-head record.
4. Kansas State (12 - 4)
5. Texas (9 - 7) Defeated Texas Tech based on South Division record.
6. Texas Tech (9 - 7) Lost to Texas based on South Division record.
7. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Defeated Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
8. Nebraska (6 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
9. Iowa State (5 - 11) Defeated Missouri based on head-to-head record.
10. Missouri (5 - 11) Lost to Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
11. Baylor (2 - 14) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
12. Colorado (2 - 14) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record
I could live with that this year. I gave OSU the win in our game which I think is very winnable for us so we could easily flip-flop with them. I'm really liking our chances of finishing in the top 4. :eek:
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bizzump
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What i've come up with is that for a first round bye we have to beat CU, ISU which hopefully should be winnable and then must win against OU. We get those, we should get the first round bye (hopefully) depending on how the south beats eachother up
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My predictions - Not sure how I got NU to be so high... that home win over OSU might have done it.
1. Kansas (14 - 2)
2. Texas A&M (13 - 3)
3. Texas (12 - 4)
4. Kansas State (10 - 6)
5. Texas Tech (8 - 8)
6. Nebraska (7 - 9) Defeated Missouri based on head-to-head record.
7. Missouri (7 - 9) Lost to Nebraska based on head-to-head record.
8. Oklahoma State (6 - 10) Defeated Oklahoma based on record against #2 South Division teams. Defeated Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
9. Iowa State (6 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on head-to-head record. Defeated Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
10. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #2 South Division teams. Lost to Iowa State based on head-to-head record.
11. Baylor (4 - 12)
12. Colorado (3 - 13)
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Only 28 would be lame enough to put mens (sic) in the subject line. Like we talk chickball around here.
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whats with his obession?
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whats with his obession?
Closet lesbo?