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Title: Decline an insight bid
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 23, 2006, 09:28:29 PM: Minnesota vs Kansas State on the friggin NFL network will be more irrelevant than the 2000 galleryfurniture.com bowl (quick...who played in that game?)

Take an independence bid, play a SEC power...play on national TV. I'm convinced we aren't sniffing the alamo. :mad:
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: tfree32 on November 23, 2006, 10:01:58 PM: Maybe Insight's as good as it gets for you guys this year.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Fausto on November 23, 2006, 10:54:37 PM: "more irrelevant than the 2000 galleryfurniture.com bowl (quick...who played in that game?)"

East Carolina & Texas Tech. How do I remember? My pick of the Pirates paid off.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: cireksu on November 23, 2006, 10:56:09 PM: IIIIIf we don't get the alamo, which I think we have a pretty good shot at over tech(who wants to watch Iowa and Tech) Insight is on the same level as the independence.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 23, 2006, 10:57:34 PM: Quote from: Fausto on November 23, 2006, 10:54:37 PM
"more irrelevant than the 2000 galleryfurniture.com bowl (quick...who played in that game?)"

East Carolina & Texas Tech. How do I remember? My pick of the Pirates paid off.

40-27. I'm sick.

cire, read my post again. TV. TV. TV
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: ds43fan on November 23, 2006, 11:34:30 PM: If we can't get the alamo the pray for the sun
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: cireksu on November 24, 2006, 06:49:10 AM: yeah, that is true, the NFL would like to make all football games pay per view. It started with the chiefs/broncos game this weekend.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: catzacker on November 24, 2006, 07:52:32 AM: Quote from: Creighton 61 Nebraska 73 on November 23, 2006, 10:01:58 PM
Maybe Insight's as good as it gets for you guys this year.

Did NU just decline all their bowl invitiations in Slash's first year? I would think that would've been the case because I looked in NU's record books and saw there wasn't a bowl game that year. Slash is such a genius that his team would have been bowl eligible in his first year so I'm assuming NU just declined every single bowl invitation. I mean, Slash did coach in a Super Bowl, and no matter the difficulty in transforming a run oriented team into a passing team, someone of Slash's coaching ability would have no problem taking a 10-3 football team and making a bowl game his first season.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: tfree32 on November 24, 2006, 12:13:41 PM: Braying about Callahan's opening season a few years back won't distract from the fact that K-Lite is not even relevant.

While we're making a run at a BCS berth and playing in the Fiesta Bowl, you're busy booking tickets to Detroit for a game that no one care about or watches. At worst we'll probably be in the Cotton Bowl. At worst, the bowl commissioners will realize they don;t want a bunch of purple-clad trailer people in their city and not invite K-Lite to any bowl.

In the meantime, keep worrying about what Callahan did years ago. That doesn't change the fact that we came down to Manhattan and punked you this year.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:flush: K-Lite!!!
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: cyclist on November 24, 2006, 02:49:32 PM: Quote from: Creighton 61 Nebraska 73 on November 24, 2006, 12:13:41 PM
Braying about Callahan's opening season a few years back won't distract from the fact that K-Lite is not even relevant.

And because we're "not even" relevant, you can't keep from posting on this board !

:ustupid: :ustupid: :ustupid: :ustupid:
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: AzCat on November 24, 2006, 02:50:41 PM: Quote from: cireksu on November 24, 2006, 06:49:10 AM
yeah, that is true, the NFL would like to make all football games pay per view.

Actually that would be an utter disaster and the NFL knows it. What they want to do is broadcast just enough games in the clear to keep the fans interested while putting the majority on PPV so you can contribute the the salaries of their massively overpaid players.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:58:14 AM: Quote from: Åz©a† on November 24, 2006, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: cireksu on November 24, 2006, 06:49:10 AM
yeah, that is true, the NFL would like to make all football games pay per view.

Actually that would be an utter disaster and the NFL knows it. What they want to do is broadcast just enough games in the clear to keep the fans interested while putting the majority on PPV so you can contribute the the salaries of their massively overpaid players.

all it is going to take for people to realize the NFL sucks is a college playoff system.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 10:33:57 AM: Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:58:14 AM

all it is going to take for people to realize the NFL sucks is a college playoff system.

Actually, playoffs suck....the NFL has playoffs and it sucks....boring, boring football.

BCS > Playoffs
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: AzCat on November 25, 2006, 10:49:04 AM: Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 10:33:57 AM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:58:14 AM

all it is going to take for people to realize the NFL sucks is a college playoff system.

Actually, playoffs suck....the NFL has playoffs and it sucks....boring, boring football.

BCS > Playoffs

Only if Boise State gets a shot at the championship.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Bookcat on November 25, 2006, 12:28:23 PM: Um, I don't think we're in any position to turn down any bowl.

We didn't even think we'd make a bowl this year. Let alone have one cinched up with a game left.

I'd prefer the Alamo...but it's looking like Shreveport or Tempe.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:26:47 PM: Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 10:33:57 AM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:58:14 AM

all it is going to take for people to realize the NFL sucks is a college playoff system.

Actually, playoffs suck....the NFL has playoffs and it sucks....boring, boring football.

BCS > Playoffs

its the NFL football that is boring, not the playoffs.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 04:41:19 PM: Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:26:47 PM
Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 10:33:57 AM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 01:58:14 AM

all it is going to take for people to realize the NFL sucks is a college playoff system.

Actually, playoffs suck....the NFL has playoffs and it sucks....boring, boring football.

BCS > Playoffs

its the NFL football that is boring, not the playoffs.

Every week of every college football season is exciting....wouldn't be that way with playoff football....playoffs create boring football......do just enough to stay in
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM: if the playoffs only select 8 teams that would have been in the BCS the regular season stays exciting. let the top 8 teams play over a 3 week stretch for a real national champ. they are already starting to spread out the BCS games anyways.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 05:11:25 PM: Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM
a real national champ.

A myth
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:14:01 PM: Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM
a real national champ.

A myth

so there is no real champ in basketball?
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 25, 2006, 05:40:24 PM: OMG. Anyone who doesn't support a playoff is terribly retarded.

An 8 team playoff would be INCREDIBLE. It would destroy "march madness"
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 07:23:42 PM: Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM
a real national champ.

A myth

so there is no real champ in basketball?
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 07:30:39 PM: Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM
a real national champ.

A myth

so there is no real champ in basketball?

I wasn't talkin' hoops...but since you bring it up....there is a winner of a 64 team tourney they call the National Champion, but not the 64 best teams....and because of upsets they might not have to play the toughest road to win it all.

The context was we get a "real national champ." It's a myth. We get a winner of a late season tournament that may not be the best team as played out through the season....It'll never really be known. There are many factors in a playoff that don't resolve the question either...other than it just easier to tell ourselves it solves everything.

Many of us have convinced ourselves the tournament format is the best and only way to go while we casually throw out an exciting and positive system.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: AzCat on November 25, 2006, 07:56:58 PM: Quote from: fatty fat fat on November 25, 2006, 05:40:24 PM
OMG. Anyone who doesn't support a playoff is terribly retarded.

An 8 team playoff would be INCREDIBLE. It would destroy "march madness"

A 16 team playoff would be even better. Start two weeks after Thanksgiving and finish not long after Christmas break.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 25, 2006, 08:25:17 PM: Congrats to NU on their first trip to the Big 12 Championship...THIS CENTURY.

Anyway, I tend to agree with Fatty...I want Independence or Alamo.

Nothing else.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: mjrod on November 25, 2006, 08:34:26 PM: The only reason you don't have a playoff is because of the bowl tradition and the payouts they have.

You're talking about $200 million in payouts plus another $150 million in TV revenues, sponsorships, etc.. each year. That's a lot of money to play for. Can a playoff make that same amount of money?

The answer is yes. The issue is the format. Mine would be each conference sends it's champion, and you get five at large (since the independents really aren't a conference.)
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 25, 2006, 08:42:11 PM: I honestly believe that bowl money would be nothing when compared to what a playoff could generate....minimum 16 teams is what I want....if not 24.

D-2 uses a 24 team format, and it's awesome.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 11:01:50 PM: Quote from: mjrod on November 25, 2006, 08:34:26 PM
The only reason you don't have a playoff is because of the bowl tradition and the payouts they have.

You're talking about $200 million in payouts plus another $150 million in TV revenues, sponsorships, etc.. each year. That's a lot of money to play for. Can a playoff make that same amount of money?

The answer is yes. The issue is the format. Mine would be each conference sends it's champion, and you get five at large (since the independents really aren't a conference.)

all they have to do is keep the selection criteria the exact same as for a bcs bowl game and have an 8 team field. they could hold the games at the respective bowls with different bowls getting different rounds and rotate like they do the national championship game now. i see no reason why this wouldnt work.
Title: Re: Decline an insight bid
Post by: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 11:04:27 PM: Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: Wildcat Jack on November 25, 2006, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: swish1 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:38 PM
a real national champ.

A myth

so there is no real champ in basketball?

I wasn't talkin' hoops...but since you bring it up....there is a winner of a 64 team tourney they call the National Champion, but not the 64 best teams....and because of upsets they might not have to play the toughest road to win it all.

The context was we get a "real national champ." It's a myth. We get a winner of a late season tournament that may not be the best team as played out through the season....It'll never really be known. There are many factors in a playoff that don't resolve the question either...other than it just easier to tell ourselves it solves everything.

Many of us have convinced ourselves the tournament format is the best and only way to go while we casually throw out an exciting and positive system.

at least we dont end up with a split national title or an undefeated team not having a chance to even play for it. also this way we dont have to debate over all the 1 loss teams but can let them play it out on the field. sure with such a small field someone will still get screwed over but that happens in basketball every year too.