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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ksuno1stunner on November 22, 2006, 10:54:36 AM
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most would consider 2005 nebraska to be a pretty successful season, and on their way up. we both got crushed by ku and mu, have similar records, and are on our way to the alamo bowl (most likely). difference is that they beat us both years, but they don't have the big win that we did (texas). if that season got nebraska fans to run around yelling "RESTORE THE ORDER!" then we should be happy with ours.
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I'd be VERY happy with an 8-5 season.
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Hard to argue there. We are prime for a big season next year, just as the huskers were. I would say the only difference is that there will be (potentially) more than one good team in the north next year, unlike this year when NU ran away with it. However, i wouldnt mind having the kind of year next year that the loser of the alamo bowl from last year had this year....
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I'd be VERY happy with an 8-5 season.
I definitely wouldn't pout about an 8-5 season. Usually, first year head coaches not named Stoops or Brown don't get that many wins.
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I'd be VERY happy with an 8-5 season.
I definitely wouldn't pout about an 8-5 season. Usually, first year head coaches not named Stoops or Brown don't get that many wins.
A first year head coach named Stoops hasn't even done it.
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I'd be VERY happy with an 8-5 season.
I definitely wouldn't pout about an 8-5 season. Usually, first year head coaches not named Stoops or Brown don't get that many wins.
A first year head coach named Stoops hasn't even done it.
That's right, Stoops went 7-5 his first year.
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The problem is that even if you improve by next year, so will Nebraska. So you might go to a better bowl, but will be shut out of the Big 12 Championship race.
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The problem is that even if you improve by next year, so will Nebraska. So you might go to a better bowl, but will be shut out of the Big 12 Championship race.
that would put prince 2 years ahead of callahan. what are you guys going to do after keller is gone?
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Outrageously funny that a first year upstart is outcoaching a Super Bowl vet. Callahan = Mack Brown without the ability to recruit all-world players at every position. :lol:
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Yes, except that we played a tougher schedule this year. We'll win the North next year too as I see our D being just as dominate as this year. Also, keep in mind the Corn only have 8 wins. I predict they get upset tomorrow and beat in the Big XII championship, leaving them with the same record as us. If we played them now, there is absolutely no question we'd beat them like the cheap ass drum that they are--it's not even debatable.
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That's just damn funny. We dominated you guys....not just beat, dominated....and we've gotten better since then.
I hope you're not seriously suggesting that you played a tougher schedule this year than we did this year.
Nothing like a fluke upset of a ranked but injury-riddled team to make you guys start getting uppity.
We'll beat Colorado tomorrow, and give Texas another run in the Big 12 Title Game.
In the meantime, you guys can debate the relative virtues of the Motor City Bowl in sunny downtown Detroit and the Toilet Bowl in sunny downtown Des Moines.
We're looking likely to be going to the Fiesta or Cotton Bowls.
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what are you guys going to do after keller is gone?
We'll have a top recruit from this day's class, and have a couple of prospects behind Taylor now that are looking good.
We're going to be in good shape at QB. Between being coached by a NFL coach that made it to the Sper Bowl and playing with super talented receivers, a lot of top prospects will be looking at Nebraska.
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I hope you're not seriously suggesting that you played a tougher schedule this year than we did this year.
I'm suggesting The Kansas State University's 2006 schedule was tougher than Nubski's 2005 schedule.
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"that would put prince 2 years ahead of callahan. what are you guys going to do after keller is gone?"
put another stud in.
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"that would put prince 2 years ahead of callahan. what are you guys going to do after keller is gone?"
put another stud in.
:lol:
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Go Buffs. Would be funny to see.
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We will be way better than when we played NU next year and I'm not sure NU will. I think Keller will prob be better than Taylor but I don't know how much the defense for NU is returning, a Husker fan can prob help me out on this. If they got a lot back, I would expect KSU to be top 25 fora large portion of the year and NU being borderline top 10. I'd give Nu the edge head to head because Lincoln is tough, i would expect about a ten pt loss there but i hope im wrong. Given the way KSU schedule stacks up, if we can pull one out at OSU we could have a 3 loss season, maybe two if we can win at louisville or possibly Lincoln, i dont think austin will happen. nonetheless i do think we have gerat similarities from when NU was down for a few seasons. I hate NU mind you, bu tI do miss when the power in the conference was in the North and I hope both teams can return that with the KSU NU matchup returning to the importance it had for a few years. I think the next few years the top teams in the conference will be KSU, NU, Texas, OU in no particular order and believe it or not ku maybe 5th.
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We will be way better than when we played NU next year and I'm not sure NU will.
Exactly. Slashahan has peaked as a HC and Blake is carrying him with his ability to recruit top-shelf talent. If, as seems likely, Blake leaves, look for Slashahan to quickly follow as the bugeater program would quickly fal apart. The meltdown is going to be a thing of true beauty.
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Keller will be a significant upgrade over Taylor. Taylor is a gamer, and a tough smart kid, but he lacks some of the physical tools you look for in a top flight QB. Keller is going to be a first day draft pickin the NFL, maybe even first round, and has a year to run the scout team and learn the offense. He's going to be a beast next year, with all of the RBs and WRs back, and an improved O-Line. Look for the offense to be very explosive.
On defense, we graduate the entire D-Line, but have some great talent behind them that have gotten some reps. So we'll have a younger but more talented group there. At LB, we lose Bradley and Mckeon I think, but keep Ruud, Octavien, and a ton of depth. Again, we lose some experience, but have a more talented group overall. In the secondary, Bowman should be back, which is immediate upgrade. He's a heck of an athlete, and can shut down the opposing team's best WR. His return moves Grixby to nickleback, a position he's much more suited for.
The stars of the team on offense will be Keller, Lucky/Jackson, and Purify on offense. On defense, Octavien and Bowman will be the playmakers. I expect a Top 10 finish and a run for the National Championship next year.
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When Keller starts his first game for NU, that will be his first game in nearly two years, not to mention he spent part of that time rehabbing an injury. Yes, he was a good QB at ASU when he wasn't getting voted off the island by the rest of his teammates. And please don't talk to me about how your d-line is more talented, if they were they would be starters. NU should have a good team, but a national title run will be out of the question as you've already got 2 losses coming your way, USC and @ UT. And @ Wake Forest won't be a cupcake either.
Again, what bowl game did Slash get you guys to in his first season? All that Super Bowl experience and he couldn't even get a program coming off a 10-3 season to a bowl game. Our rookie head coach, with rookie coordinators got a team led by a true freshman QB to a bowl game.
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Just FYI...Callahan was not just a new head coach, he brought in an almost completely new staff, and a completely new offense. These are far more drastic changes than any KSU faced this year. The transition between the option offense and the West Coast offense is about as drastic as you'll find. Those transitions take time.
As for USC, Keller has faced them before. He's got big game experience, and we're not worried about him. We played Texas close, and will again next year. I predict we win at least one of those games.
Oh, and FYI, you not only got hammered by us, but lost to teams like Kansas and Baylor....you should be more concerned about even being relevant than about what Top 25 teams like Nebraska are doing. You're a bug on our windshield.
Also, why is it that you're trying so hard to compare Prince's first year to Callahan's first year that's already in the rear view mirror? Is the looming trip to the Motor City Bowl not gratifying enough? :lol:
The important thing is the Nebraska will beat Colorado today, and play either Texas or Oklahoma for a shot at the BCS. We'll end up in the Fiesta or Cotton Bowl. In the meantime, you're booking tickets to Detroit for a game no one watches or cares about. That's why you're trying so hard to change the subject.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:flush: K-Lite!!!
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Just FYI...Callahan was not just a new head coach, he brought in an almost completely new staff, and a completely new offense. These are far more drastic changes than any KSU faced this year. The transition between the option offense and the West Coast offense is about as drastic as you'll find. Those transitions take time.
As for USC, Keller has faced them before. He's got big game experience, and we're not worried about him. We played Texas close, and will again next year. I predict we win at least one of those games.
Oh, and FYI, you not only got hammered by us, but lost to teams like Kansas and Baylor....you should be more concerned about even being relevant than about what Top 25 teams like Nebraska are doing. You're a bug on our windshield.
Also, why is it that you're trying so hard to compare Prince's first year to Callahan's first year that's already in the rear view mirror? Is the looming trip to the Motor City Bowl not gratifying enough? :lol:
The important thing is the Nebraska will beat Colorado today, and play either Texas or Oklahoma for a shot at the BCS. We'll end up in the Fiesta or Cotton Bowl. In the meantime, you're booking tickets to Detroit for a game no one watches or cares about. That's why you're trying so hard to change the subject.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:flush: K-Lite!!!
Ron Prince went through the same transition as Slash did in his first year and had entirely more success. KSU will be better than NU in less time. You're trying to compare year 1 at KSU to year 3 at NU, instead of comparing year 1 of Prince and year 1 of Slash, which is why it's so hard for you to understand that we are ahead of where NU was and will be ahead of NU by year 3 of Prince. Good luck with your first appearance in the Big 12 Championship game this century.
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Ron Prince went through the same transition as Slash did in his first year and had entirely more success.
No, the transitions don't even resemble each other in how dramatic the changes made were.
KSU will be better than NU in less time.
Based on what, a hunch? I think freeman will end up being a good QB, but doubt that K-Lite will even consistently be a Top 25 team again.
You're trying to compare year 1 at KSU to year 3 at NU, instead of comparing year 1 of Prince and year 1 of Slash
No, you're focusing on an invalid comparison to try to distract from the fact that Nebraska is light-years ahead of K-Lite right now.
Good luck with your appearance in the Big 12 Championship game
Thanks, we plan on playing hard and hopefully winning.
:flush: K-Lite!!!
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Ron Prince went through the same transition as Slash did in his first year and had entirely more success.
No, the transitions don't even resemble each other in how dramatic the changes made were.
KSU will be better than NU in less time.
Based on what, a hunch? I think freeman will end up being a good QB, but doubt that K-Lite will even consistently be a Top 25 team again.
You're trying to compare year 1 at KSU to year 3 at NU, instead of comparing year 1 of Prince and year 1 of Slash
No, you're focusing on an invalid comparison to try to distract from the fact that Nebraska is light-years ahead of K-Lite right now.
Good luck with your appearance in the Big 12 Championship game
Thanks, we plan on playing hard and hopefully winning.
:flush: K-Lite!!!
The transitions, are in fact, remarkably similar, the only difference is that Prince was able to get his QB recruit and put him on the field, Slash didn't...that's part of coaching.
You seem to want to make a year 1 vs. year 3 comparison, which is invalid. Even the greatest college football program in the entire universe took a huge step back in it's transition, yet KSU (the team that you claim is so far behind NU) didn't take the same step back in the same transition. I would actually say the transition for Prince was entirely more difficult because KSU went through 2 losing seasons prior to his arrival. But the Slash, the genius, took over a 10-3 program and led them to a 5-6 year. All NU fans wanted to say after 2004 was "wait till Slash gets his players"...yet you say that the same claim made by KSU fans is invalid? KSU can not only say that, but can say that and be ahead of where NU was at the same point in time.
Freeman>Keller
Patton>whoever NU has running the ball
Prince>Callahan
KSU> NU
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pathetic thread.
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I'm amused by this thread personally. Once again let me say that the transition from the option offense to the WCO is far more drastic than the transition from Snyder's offense to Prince's.
Now you point out that Callahan took over a team that was 10-3 the previous year. That's correct. But that was a team that won 10 games running the option. That means that you don't have a QB who can throw the ball, you don't have WRs or RBs that can catch the ball, you don't have linemen that can pass block, and no one has any familiarity with the offense.
On defense, we had a succession of coordinators, each with different schemes, so lots of transition there too.
The fact that in just a couple of years, Nebraska is back in the BCS hunt with a completely different offensive gameplan is pretty amazing, and a testament to the strength of Nebraska's program.
K-Lite on the other hand is irrelevant. Maybe you'll end up ascending back to mediocrity, but aren't likely to do much more.
:flush: K-Lite!!!
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I'm amused by this thread personally. Once again let me say that the transition from the option offense to the WCO is far more drastic than the transition from Snyder's offense to Prince's.
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We made the exact same transition moron.
Just FYI...Callahan was not just a new head coach, he brought in an almost completely new staff
Uh, so did Prince. With the offense and defensive coordinators having zero experience and Prince himself having no head coach experience as well. Cally coached in a Super Bowl.
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pathetic thread.
sellout
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pathetic thread.
sellout
All of your posts here were excellent.
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pathetic thread.
sellout
All of your posts here were excellent.
when grcoat died, a part of me went with it :crybaby:
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Once again let me say that the transition from the option offense to the WCO is far more drastic than the transition from Snyder's offense to Prince's.
But that was a team that won 10 games running the option. That means that you don't have a QB who can throw the ball, you don't have WRs or RBs that can catch the ball, you don't have linemen that can pass block, and no one has any familiarity with the offense.
Did you even watch Nubb football in the final years of Frankie and the boys? Nubb had in fact made an amazing transition from the Osborne I-back based option to the QB centered run-game.....they did in fact resemble KSU more closely than they did NU of old. NU wasn't running an option based attack...they had option in it...but KSU and NU offenses were more similar than different.
The year 1 Slashahan and year 1 Prince comparisons are very similar in this regard.....It is a reason you see so many freshman put in key positions....KSU didn't have the horses in the stable to run the offense either...we made the switch and won ballgames.....it's a fact
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when grcoat died, a part of me went with it
it's ok, there's still the chance of grcoat 2008 or 2009