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Title: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: RonLongshaft on January 22, 2010, 11:55:57 AM
FG% last year 51% this year 61%

which would also result in his PPS being 1.58 last year and 1.84 this year.

He is taking better higher % shots for sure, this is a direct result from his ability and will of getting the rim being more aggressive than last year. This kid is gonna be a beast before he leaves 'tan!!

 :bballonlyfan: :skillz:
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Cem Blasoflas on January 22, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
He just clowned Damion James on national television.  How much more of a beast can he become?
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 12:04:38 PM
He has also raised his FT attempts per game from 5.0 to 6.7.  Which IMO is just as important as raising his percentage.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Olivia Neutron Bomb on January 22, 2010, 12:09:34 PM
JamSam, Dominique, and Pullen are going to be the core of a team contending for the NC next year.  Irving looks like he'll fit in nicely in the group when we lose Clemente.   Open question is whether Roberts will put on some muscle and weight and be more solid at C.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: RonLongshaft on January 22, 2010, 12:12:46 PM
He has also raised his FT attempts per game from 5.0 to 6.7.  Which IMO is just as important as raising his percentage.

his FT% in down though, albeit 1% he is horrible at the line .557
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: QuinnMac on January 22, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
He has also raised his FT attempts per game from 5.0 to 6.7.  Which IMO is just as important as raising his percentage.

his FT% in down though, albeit 1% he is horrible at the line .557
Good insight.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: TheMadCatter on January 22, 2010, 01:02:08 PM
JamSam, Dominique, and Pullen are going to be the core of a team contending for the NC next year.  Irving looks like he'll fit in nicely in the group when we lose Clemente.   Open question is whether Roberts will put on some muscle and weight and be more solid at C.

Everyone will put on muscle under Greenawalt. We won't have to rely on JHR as much with the addition of Asprilla.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on January 22, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
JamSam, Dominique, and Pullen are going to be the core of a team contending for the NC next year.  Irving looks like he'll fit in nicely in the group when we lose Clemente.   Open question is whether Roberts will put on some muscle and weight and be more solid at C.

Asprilla says JHR can wait a year
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on January 22, 2010, 01:16:50 PM
Dude needs more minutes.  I know that he shares time with Nique a lot, and it's tough to pull him from the floor.  Still, I wouldn't mind JamSam playing some more minutes at the 4.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 01:22:10 PM
Dude needs more minutes.  I know that he shares time with Nique a lot, and it's tough to pull him from the floor.  Still, I wouldn't mind JamSam playing some more minutes at the 4.

Yeah, I pretty much agree.  But Frank has to be careful with him so he stays out of foul trouble.  He's being used really similar to how Huggs used Cartier (although how they play is different).
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: mcmwcat on January 22, 2010, 01:25:31 PM
how about next year start pullen, sutton, samuels, kelly & asprilla.  would work if samuels and kelly started practicing a bunch of 3 pt shots and no one pressed us.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Rick Daris on January 22, 2010, 01:28:24 PM
He has also raised his FT attempts per game from 5.0 to 6.7.  Which IMO is just as important as raising his percentage.

he's also averaging more minutes, which would naturally lead to an increase in ft attempts.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 01:29:04 PM
how about next year start pullen, sutton, samuels, kelly & asprilla.  would work if samuels and kelly started practicing a bunch of 3 pt shots and no one pressed us.

McGruds starts (or maybe Irving) and Aspy comes off the bench.  I'm sure he'll have the normal Frank learning curve.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
He has also raised his FT attempts per game from 5.0 to 6.7.  Which IMO is just as important as raising his percentage.

he's also averaging more minutes, which would naturally lead to an increase in ft attempts.

Yeah, a better stat is fouls drawn per 40 min.  He's at 8.1 this year after 6.9 last year.  And a 106.8 FT rate this year compared to 95.5 last year. 
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: The Manhatter on January 22, 2010, 02:36:20 PM
starting 5 next year?

PG - Pullen
SG - McGruder
SF - Sutton or Samuels
PF - Kelly or Judge
C - Henriquez or Asprilla

I think McGruder starts, period.  He will need to improve his ball handling ability but he can be HIGHLY productive on both ends of the floor.  I think the backcourt gets better w/ that starting PG & SG.

People will say Pullen should stay at the 2 to capitalize on his scoring ability then who do you trust to run the point?  Ultimately McGruder will be every bit the scorer Pullen is today and there is no reason why Pullen can't average about 15 ppg as a point.  You simply have to get McGruder on the floor.

Now if Wally and Henriquez make great strides between this year and next the frontcourt will be absolutely dominant.

Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 22, 2010, 02:38:55 PM
starting 5 next year?

PG - Pullen
SG - McGruder
SF - Sutton or Samuels
PF - Kelly or Judge
C - Henriquez or Asprilla

I think McGruder starts, period.  He will need to improve his ball handling ability but he can be HIGHLY productive on both ends of the floor.  I think the backcourt gets better w/ that starting PG & SG.

People will say Pullen should stay at the 2 to capitalize on his scoring ability then who do you trust to run the point?  Ultimately McGruder will be every bit the scorer Pullen is today and there is no reason why Pullen can't average about 15 ppg as a point.  You simply have to get McGruder on the floor.

Now if Wally and Henriquez make great strides between this year and next the frontcourt will be absolutely dominant.



We'll be able to get Pullen minutes at both.  With McGruder on the floor he'll run the point, with Irving he'll play the 2.  Hopefully Russell improves enough to get some minutes as well.  We should have a decent rotation there and some options.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 22, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
starting 5 next year?

PG - Pullen
SG - McGruder
SF - Sutton or Samuels
PF - Kelly or Judge
C - Henriquez or Asprilla

I think McGruder starts, period.  He will need to improve his ball handling ability but he can be HIGHLY productive on both ends of the floor.  I think the backcourt gets better w/ that starting PG & SG.

People will say Pullen should stay at the 2 to capitalize on his scoring ability then who do you trust to run the point?  Ultimately McGruder will be every bit the scorer Pullen is today and there is no reason why Pullen can't average about 15 ppg as a point.  You simply have to get McGruder on the floor.

Now if Wally and Henriquez make great strides between this year and next the frontcourt will be absolutely dominant.



Pullen
Sutton
Kelly
McGruds
Judge

will be starters IMO.  Jam Sam loves coming off the bench and being the "X-Factor."

The other guy will see a lot of playing time like this year.  Asprilla, Hen-Rob, McGruder, Russell, and Irving will see lots of time.  Martin loves depth on a team.  Irving and McGruder had some amazing Defensive plays against TU.  Spradling and Southwell could see the floor depending on how fast they "buy in."
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Olivia Neutron Bomb on January 22, 2010, 02:58:34 PM
Arguing over which players to play F is a good discussion to have.  ku has to figure out which mongoloid won't get caught cheating to fill in their F prospect (or wreck Scott Pollard's SUV with a 16 yo in the car at 1:15 in the morning).
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: catfan28 on January 22, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
Asprilla will start next year.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: BarryMcCockner on January 22, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
JamSam, Dominique, and Pullen are going to be the core of a team contending for the NC next year.  Irving looks like he'll fit in nicely in the group when we lose Clemente.   Open question is whether Roberts will put on some muscle and weight and be more solid at C.

Replace Clemente with 'Gruder and I'm pretty sure that's a big jump in PPS.
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: Leyton on January 22, 2010, 09:50:20 PM
Now if Wally and Henriquez make great strides between this year and next the frontcourt will be absolutely dominant.

Wow - you put Wally and JHR in the same category, and it was completely appropriate.  If you'd told me that would be the case before the season, I would have laughed and called you crazy.  *sigh*
Title: Re: JamSam and a telling statistic...
Post by: swish1 on January 22, 2010, 11:43:38 PM
starting 5 next year?

PG - Pullen
SG - McGruder
SF - Sutton or Samuels
PF - Kelly or Judge
C - Henriquez or Asprilla

I think McGruder starts, period.  He will need to improve his ball handling ability but he can be HIGHLY productive on both ends of the floor.  I think the backcourt gets better w/ that starting PG & SG.

People will say Pullen should stay at the 2 to capitalize on his scoring ability then who do you trust to run the point?  Ultimately McGruder will be every bit the scorer Pullen is today and there is no reason why Pullen can't average about 15 ppg as a point.  You simply have to get McGruder on the floor.

Now if Wally and Henriquez make great strides between this year and next the frontcourt will be absolutely dominant.



no way henriquez starts the first game next year.  best bet for the first game is pullen, mcgruder, sutton, samuels and kelly.