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Title: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 07, 2006, 08:57:55 PM
we're gonna have to blitz, like a pack of rabid dogs, from every angle on every play.  I'm concerned if we sit back in that Tampa 2 and allow Texas to complete passes they will.  I don't know if we'll stop the run game without committing alot of bodies at the line. 

'Course that's just me and the way I'd play defense all the time....I'm quite convinced Raheem knows more than me.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: cireksu on November 07, 2006, 09:14:51 PM
If we blitz every play they may not run much but they will score at least 63 points and Limas (what a dumb name) sweed will set big 12 records for receptions, yds, and td's in one game. 

Pick your poison.  I would rather them run roughshod all over us like nebraska did and keep the score lower.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Joker on November 07, 2006, 09:16:53 PM
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I would rather them run roughshod all over us like nebraska did and keep the score lower.

Ah, so you prefer the Callahan vs. USC approach?
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: AzCat on November 07, 2006, 09:20:46 PM
No a Callahan vs. USC approach would have our offense taking a knee on every play and never snapping the ball with more than a couple of seconds left on the play clock.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: cireksu on November 07, 2006, 09:23:04 PM
I just want to see a flea flicker.  Maybe even an Annexation of Puerto Rico.  You know a good ole "Jap Play".
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 07, 2006, 09:28:57 PM

Pick your poison. 

Yeah I know....I just tend to think when you're in this bend-don't-break philosophy it requires the other team to make mistakes.....I just don't see Texas making the mistakes without us pressuring....Now if we can't get to 'em they'll be hittin' big plays and then it might be tough....
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Joker on November 07, 2006, 09:37:09 PM
You make a good point AZ..

As far as the initial post goes, Texas obviously far outmatches us talent wise. I think anytime you have such a wide talent gap you're going to have to take a lot of chances and play riskier ball. Such as the gimmick pass play against Louisville.

Of course then you risk getting blown out if the plan falls through, but I'd rather see that than a Callahanesqe effort just to keep it close.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: AzCat on November 07, 2006, 09:56:04 PM
Slow 'em down on defense and play bold & daring football on offense.  Then pray you score a TD every time you touch the ball.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2006, 10:59:07 PM
I just want to see a flea flicker.  Maybe even an Annexation of Puerto Rico.  You know a good ole "Jap Play".

 :lol:
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on November 07, 2006, 11:21:12 PM
We might see some Bold and Daring in the first half and if all goes bad, then whole lot of conservative and reserved in the 2nd half, kinda like how we stuck to running the ball in the MU game to keep it from getting too outta hand.

I can't wait for this game, KSU underneath the bright lights on a big HD TV,  primetime baby

lets go cats
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: FBWillie on November 08, 2006, 09:22:12 AM
I'll be watching for a Parker onside kick at some point; maybe to begin the game.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: KSt8er on November 08, 2006, 09:40:38 AM
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I'll be watching for a Parker onside kick at some point; maybe to begin the game.

OT: but I could not believe that we ran (wasted) one last week, for the reason we did.  Why show that play again, there.... :frown:
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: cireksu on November 08, 2006, 09:57:55 AM
You could show that play in order to make texas spend time preparing for it, also if that play is in their up men's heads and they have to wait a split second to guard it that could be the difference between them breaking a long run or getting stopped inside the 20.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: bigdeal on November 08, 2006, 11:19:21 AM
I think we'll do defensively what Raheem seems to like to do...use the Cover 2 as a base to keep things in front of everyone, then sporadically throw in blitzes to try to get the opponents offense out of sequence.  Offensively, I thought they did a really good job last week vs. CU.  I suspect UT will challenge our short passes more aggressively and risk an occasional long ball because 1. they have a potent enough offense that they are going to score some anyway and 2. they think they can get plenty of pressure on Freeman to prevent the long passes from ever being thrown.  At least that's what I'd do if I was the UT coach...hard to say what Mack Brown will do.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 08, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
On onside kicks; yes, it does make it more difficult b/c UT will prepare for it, BUT that also forces the front of UT's KO return to delay an extra half second to make sure the ball is kicked deep which also takes away from their return.  Since UT has plenty of athletes, doing anything to slow their return game is a good thing.  Its great that we've tried several onsides and been successful b/c it should help our coverage as well. 

On defense; we'll see plenty of the cover 2 we've seen all year b/c you dance with who brought you.  Granted, there will be some tweaks and disguises, and probably more risks b/c we are playing UT, but we aren't going to play a whole different defense or anything.  I don't mind trying to keep them in front and seeing if we can force mistakes.  The key will be winning the ST battle and being efficient on offense.  Do that and let your defense bend but not break and at the worst try to force UT to kick some FGs.  This will be a tough one, but that's probably the formula for an upset. 
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: coitus on November 08, 2006, 12:27:52 PM
we gotta hit mccoy early and often.  he doesn't make mistakes on his own.

someone needs to go nyle wiren on his ass.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: FBWillie on November 08, 2006, 12:49:39 PM
Ian Campbell is only 1 sack away from his season sack record
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 08, 2006, 12:57:32 PM
Oh, I agree we need to hit McCoy.  However, I don't think we sell out blitzes every down and give UT several 2 or 3 play drives.  We do that and UT will put up 40 and we have no shot.  We've got to make them drive the ball, mix blitzes, get to McCoy and force some mistakes.  And all this will be a mute point if we don't stop the run.  UT is tough and their defense is really good, this is just a tough match-up.  While we might have some success blitzing a ton, I don't think that's a formula for anything but a 30+ point loss.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 08, 2006, 07:19:09 PM
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I'll be watching for a Parker onside kick at some point; maybe to begin the game.

OT: but I could not believe that we ran (wasted) one last week, for the reason we did.  Why show that play again, there.... :frown:

I really believe he was just trying to kill the clock.  In that instance I don't know why you kick the ball 10 yards....Kick the ball 1 yard and stand around it until the ref blows it dead.....that'll kill 4-6 seconds.  Another reason why the clock rules are completely assinine.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Joker on November 13, 2006, 10:31:49 AM
You make a good point AZ..

As far as the initial post goes, Texas obviously far outmatches us talent wise. I think anytime you have such a wide talent gap you're going to have to take a lot of chances and play riskier ball. Such as the gimmick pass play against Louisville.

Of course then you risk getting blown out if the plan falls through, but I'd rather see that than a Callahanesqe effort just to keep it close.

Spot on  :D
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 13, 2006, 10:35:54 AM
One of those times when its great to be wrong:

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We do that and UT will put up 40 and we have no shot.

:)

And we did end up hitting McCoy, just not on a blitz.  Did a nice job mixing in some blitzes against Snead at times.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 13, 2006, 10:39:35 AM
Yep, we actually played 'em straight up for the most part.  when we did blitz it was effective.  Makin' 'em use four downs inside the one....gave us a free shot at McCoy....we knew it was gonna be a sneak and popped him but good.

I'm just glad tejas decided to go away from runnin' the ball 'cause they really were movin' us on that read-play.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: Joker on November 13, 2006, 10:43:48 AM
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I'm just glad tejas decided to go away from runnin' the ball 'cause they really were movin' us on that read-play.

My thoughts exactly. We couldn't seem to make any open field tackles and Charles was making everyone miss on first contact. I now understand why UT fans pull their hair out over Greg Davis' play calling. We were having trouble stopping the run game. I have no idea why they went away from it.
Title: Re: I'm inclined to believe.....
Post by: coitus on November 13, 2006, 11:06:38 AM
texas went into panic mode when we got up on them, and abandoned the run.  dumb move on their part, they could have run the ball for 5 yards a pop all day.

prince, franklin, freeman and figurs deserve credit for getting us a lead going into the half, and then never letting up.  after we were up two tds i was terrified we would stop being aggressive and try to burn the clock.

but we kept the foot on the gas, with the only exception being the series with meier under center.

great job coaching, knowing ut could get back in it, and not being satisfied with 35 points.