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Title: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 07, 2006, 09:33:24 AM
"He reports a 4.0 GPA and an 18 ACT."

How is that possible?

These are stats of a KSU recruit.

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 09:34:29 AM
Well, better than the "I had a 2.9 and a 32 ACT!" liars.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: slucat on November 07, 2006, 09:36:54 AM
Some people test poorly, maybe the recruit took lots of shop classes and welding...
I had straight A's and I think I only got 22 or 24 on my ACT (however I did better on the SAT).
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: michigancat on November 07, 2006, 09:37:37 AM
"Elite Long Snapper" is also strange.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: plaincat on November 07, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
Isn't 18 what you need to qualify?  Maybe he got a lot higher but the question was "Have you scored at least an 18 on the ACT?" 
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 07, 2006, 09:39:29 AM
It's either a 17 or 18...not sure.

Not a big deal, but it did strike me as odd.

I don't really care as long as they can play football and pass their classes and get a degree...

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: ksuno1stunner on November 07, 2006, 09:41:13 AM
hs gpa is not the most accurate measurement of knowledge.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 07, 2006, 09:44:48 AM
Well, better than the "I had a 2.9 and a 32 ACT!" liars.


Heh....

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: coitus on November 07, 2006, 10:27:36 AM
the test is racially biased.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: kougar24 on November 07, 2006, 10:50:06 AM
High school GPA means virtually nothing. Nothing beyond a base indication of work ethic or desire to impress, at any rate.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 11:57:16 AM
High school GPA/indication of work ethic means virtually nothing.

It means alot. Correlation between HS GPA and College GPA is pretty good.

You are really dumb.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: Iceberg on November 07, 2006, 01:01:50 PM
The requirement is 21 for KSU, unless you are in the top 1/3 of your class or took a specified curriculum. I don't think that his grades really matter as a recruit as much as your making it out to be. However, it does say that he works hard in comparison to his academic ability. I'm fine with hard work.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 07, 2006, 01:05:49 PM
Fatty, despite what your parents told you HS GPA doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: cireksu on November 07, 2006, 01:06:17 PM
HS GPA is all about Desire.  ACT is a decent indicator, but not everyone is good at taking standardized tests for that matter.  But people of avg, intelligence shouldn't have a hard time scoring a 17 on it.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 01:12:11 PM
Fatty, despite what your parents told you HS GPA doesn't matter.

Kids with high ACT scores work hardest in HS (for the most part)

Now get back to sniffing Jarret Hart's underarm.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: coitus on November 07, 2006, 01:16:33 PM
if you can get a high test score, you likely don't have to work hard in hs to get a high gpa.

innate intelligence is what gets you by on standardized tests.

doing homework, paying attention in class and kissing the teachers ass....which any moron can do....gets you good grades.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 02:34:57 PM

doing homework, paying attention in class and kissing the teachers ass....which any moron can do....gets you good grades.

Doing well in class, paying attention etc.. helps on standarized tests. The ACT is a predictor of how well you'll do in college.

Honestly, people don't just show up and do well on standardized tests. Only an idiot actually believes that.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: FBWillie on November 07, 2006, 04:48:44 PM
I "just showed up" 8am, hungover, and got a 23 with a 29 in math.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: coitus on November 07, 2006, 05:12:57 PM
my best friend in hs studied his butt off, pulled a 3.2 and only scored a 17.  he went to ku.

i slacked my butt off and still hit 30, without any pre-study.

some folks have intelligence, others can memorize crap.  that's the difference.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 06:01:23 PM
My point is take a group of 40 people with 4.0's in high school and take a groupd of 40 people w/3.0's.


The group of people with 4.0's will average **considerably** higher scores on their ACT's.

Oh, and I have never studied ever in my life and got a 36 on my ACT and am now pulling a 4.0 in college. Never ever studied.  :blank:
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 07, 2006, 06:05:52 PM
Fatty, despite what your parents told you HS GPA doesn't matter.

Kids with high ACT scores work hardest in HS (for the most part)

Now get back to sniffing Jarret Hart's underarm.
jealous?
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 07, 2006, 06:06:31 PM
In my experience, HS GPA and ACT's mean something for about 5 minutes after you enroll in a college or university...

The College GPA, however, can haunt you for life.

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 07, 2006, 06:07:19 PM
In my experience, HS GPA and ACT's mean something for about 5 minutes after you enroll in a college or university...

The College GPA, however, can haunt you for life.



I agree, I'm not saying HS GPA is important...but it's a good indicator of how well you'll do in college and on your ACT imo.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 07, 2006, 06:11:04 PM
I tend to agree...that's why the 4-point and the 18 threw me off...

If you've taken the core classes and done well, there's no reason you shouldn't do well on the ACT...unless you mis-bubbled or something (Is it electronic yet?  I'm old).

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 07, 2006, 06:26:35 PM

The College GPA, however, can haunt you for life.


Maybe only about 5 minutes after you get that first job....at my last job interview, with over 15 years experience, I got the question....I actually laughed out loud and said, "I don't know I haven't looked at it in years...I think it was like a 2.1 or something....but I'd have to look at the transcript."  Still got the job.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: Iceberg on November 09, 2006, 07:42:13 PM
A students teach B students to work for C students
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: Leyton on November 10, 2006, 03:21:11 AM
I'm less interested in the correlation between HS GPA and college GPA than I am interested in the correlation between college GPA and not sucking at your job.  I don't think it's as strong a correlation.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: cireksu on November 10, 2006, 06:59:50 AM
College GPA won't hold you back for all jobs but at large corperations it can.  Deloitte and Touche wouldn't look at an application unless you graduated with a 3.75 or higher 6 years ago.  Have no idea if that's changed.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2006, 07:53:39 AM
LOL @ college GPA
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 10, 2006, 09:24:43 AM
I'm speaking more to graduate school, etc...than job applications..

But even then, the type of degree can severely hold you back...which is kinda funny in and of itself.

Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on November 10, 2006, 01:11:16 PM
Some people test poorly, maybe the recruit took lots of shop classes and welding...
I had straight A's and I think I only got 22 or 24 on my ACT (however I did better on the SAT).

I can tell you from experience as a student AND teacher, that some people just don't test very well.  Some people can go into a test feeling like they've prepped as well as possible--then lay an egg on the test.  It happens, trust me.
Title: Re: Something doesn't add up....
Post by: ednksu on November 11, 2006, 10:11:48 AM
I will own anyone that says tests and gpa are a measure if you knowledge.  It is all about who you know, and who you daddy knows.





























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