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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Bookcat on January 04, 2010, 10:45:51 PM
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Gary Patterson to Kstate
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Love the comparison
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I did a "what if he's kragthorpe" thread after "It's Patterson!".
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its one thing to see Hawkins to faceplant terribly at Colorado...but the added dimension is that Boise State, in my mind, is still quite good and has managed to reload guys like Zabransky and Ian Johnson(?).
tcu is good too, just choked a bit tonight imho.......and I'm convinced that Patterson leaving tcu would be career suicide for the guy. He wouldn't be able to dominate at a bigger conference and go to "we feel sorry for you since your an undefeated mid major so we'll give you the keys to the Fiesta" BCS bowl invites..... I think he knows that too.
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
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I think we all know that Peterson was the brains behind the operation in Boise. Dan was just lucky enough to be the head man in charge when they started to have success....
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I think we all know that Peterson was the brains behind the operation in Boise. Dan was just lucky enough to be the head man in charge when they started to have success....
Don't forget that the cluster &@#% of an athletic program at CU were dumb enough to hire and extend him too.
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Love G Patt but if he can't recruit in DFW, he's not going to be able to recruit to Manhattan. He's able to dominate a crapty conference because those team all have similar talents levels. I don't think his ability to "coach 'em up" would result in any CCGs or BCS bowls for us when the other teams Jimmies are beating our Joes brains in.
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:facepalm:
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:flush:
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This thread is the early leader for Lowest FBIQ thread of the year.
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I can’t figure out if the “gary wouldn’t be able to win in a big conference” thing is just a defense mechanism by some ksu fans. Who the hell is claiming that gary would dominate the big 12…and who the hell is asking him to? He’s a good enough coach with good enough recruiting connections (or at least his staff has them) that he’d be able to win the north on a consistent basis. That’s all you want or could ask for. And if you do that, then you’ll put yourself in a position to sneak up and beat OU or UT in the championship game at some point. The days of having reasonable expectations to dominate the north and/or win the big 12 are over. O-VER. Bill made sure of that by keeping around terrible assistants and Ron put an exclamation point by that.
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Thnyder ith the Thpike Dyketh to Mithithippi'th Tham Thneed.
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Thnyder ith the Thpike Dyketh to Mithithippi'th Tham Thneed.
Sam Sneed the golfer?
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
Nebraska, and their field goal away from the BCS, says hi.
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I can’t figure out if the “gary wouldn’t be able to win in a big conference” thing is just a defense mechanism by some ksu fans. Who the hell is claiming that gary would dominate the big 12…and who the hell is asking him to? He’s a good enough coach with good enough recruiting connections (or at least his staff has them) that he’d be able to win the north on a consistent basis. That’s all you want or could ask for. And if you do that, then you’ll put yourself in a position to sneak up and beat OU or UT in the championship game at some point. The days of having reasonable expectations to dominate the north and/or win the big 12 are over. O-VER. Bill made sure of that by keeping around terrible assistants and Ron put an exclamation point by that.
zack, always remember, that as a whole, our fans are morons. Questions like this make more sense when you remember this fact.
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I think we all know that Peterson was the brains behind the operation in Boise. Dan was just lucky enough to be the head man in charge when they started to have success....
So what do you think of Chris Peterson taking over the reins as HC when OB retires? I really like what he has done out there, but would he come to MHK?
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but would he come to MHK?
Not a chance in hell
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but would he come to MHK?
Not a chance in hell
dammit, I was hoping he would accept a HCIW role so he can "learn the ropes" from The Legend.
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Thnyder ith the Thpike Dyketh to Mithithippi'th Tham Thneed.
Sam Sneed the golfer?
Doeth thith tard ride the thort buth?
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
Nebraska, and their field goal away from the BCS, says hi.
And do you think G-Patt would be able to pull in the kind of talent on the defensive side of the ball that Nub has this year? The answer is a big, fat "no."
Go back and look at the athletes and their high school/juco rankings coming into college for that Nebraska defense this year. LOADED. Callahan couldn't do much, but he could recruit.
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
holy f*cking god. i mean, seriously. for the love of mass transportation.
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
Nebraska, and their field goal away from the BCS, says hi.
And do you think G-Patt would be able to pull in the kind of talent on the defensive side of the ball that Nub has this year? The answer is a big, fat "no."
Go back and look at the athletes and their high school/juco rankings coming into college for that Nebraska defense this year. LOADED. Callahan couldn't do much, but he could recruit.
That's tough to prove either way. You said you had no doubt that he would field a very good defense, but that it wouldn't be enough. It's been shown this year that a very good defense and absolutely no offense is enough to win the north by 2 games and almost win the Dr pepper. Myth busted.
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The mistake people make in assuming Patterson would dominate the Big XII if he came here is they forget the guy's offenses have been putrid until the team he put on the field this season.
I have no doubt he would field a very good defensive team and would still be able to tap some of the Texas pipelines he currently has, although not to the extent as what he has at tcu, but in the BCS conferences you HAVE to be able to score points.
Patterson's not going to be able to walk into KSU and win games in the Big XII North 10-3 or 13-10 like he's been able to pull off against the less talented opponents he faces at tcu.
Nebraska, and their field goal away from the BCS, says hi.
And do you think G-Patt would be able to pull in the kind of talent on the defensive side of the ball that Nub has this year? The answer is a big, fat "no."
Go back and look at the athletes and their high school/juco rankings coming into college for that Nebraska defense this year. LOADED. Callahan couldn't do much, but he could recruit.
So you're a Venzy disciple? :dunno:
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So you're a Venzy disciple? :dunno:
I think Patterson would be a good hire after Snyder leaves; I just don't think he's going to walk in here and win the North every year like some of our fans are assuming he would.
IMO if Patterson was our coach this year, with the talent we had on both sides of the ball, our defense would've been comparable, maybe slightly better, to what we saw this year. Our offense would've been near the bottom of the NCAA, however.
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That's tough to prove either way. You said you had no doubt that he would field a very good defense, but that it wouldn't be enough. It's been shown this year that a very good defense and absolutely no offense is enough to win the north by 2 games and almost win the Dr pepper. Myth busted.
Nebraska's defense this year was better than very good. They are probably one of the top 5 defenses to ever play in the Big XII; yes, that good.
They remind me a lot of that Bama defense that beat Tech a few year's back during Brody Croyle's last season there. There were games where Bama wouldn't even score a touchdown and still win because they had that much talent and experience on the defensive side of the ball.
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gpatty would be great here at EMAW-U, but that's just one man's look at things.
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So you're a Venzy disciple? :dunno:
I think Patterson would be a good hire after Snyder leaves; I just don't think he's going to walk in here and win the North every year like some of our fans are assuming he would.
Anyone assuming anyone will walk in here and win the North every year is an idiot. I haven't seen anyone assume that about any coach.
IMO if Patterson was our coach this year, with the talent we had on both sides of the ball, our defense would've been comparable, maybe slightly better, to what we saw this year. Our offense would've been near the bottom of the NCAA, however.
That's possibly true (how you came to that conclusion, I have no idea), but it's a dumb reason to discount Patterson. For one, he isn't a band-aid hire, which would instantly make his recruiting better than Snyder's.
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gtfo my face thread.
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So you're a Venzy disciple? :dunno:
I think Patterson would be a good hire after Snyder leaves; I just don't think he's going to walk in here and win the North every year like some of our fans are assuming he would.
Anyone assuming anyone will walk in here and win the North every year is an idiot. I haven't seen anyone assume that about any coach.
IMO if Patterson was our coach this year, with the talent we had on both sides of the ball, our defense would've been comparable, maybe slightly better, to what we saw this year. Our offense would've been near the bottom of the NCAA, however.
That's possibly true (how you came to that conclusion, I have no idea), but it's a dumb reason to discount Patterson. For one, he isn't a band-aid hire, which would instantly make his recruiting better than Snyder's.
tcu is currently ranked #43 in the Rivals ratings, KSU is #57. You would to think that a 1 loss, BCS bowl season vs. a 6 loss, no bowl season would mean more than 14 spots in the rankings... :dunno:
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tcu is currently ranked #43 in the Rivals ratings, KSU is #57. You would to think that a 1 loss, BCS bowl season vs. a 6 loss, no bowl season would mean more than 14 spots in the rankings... :dunno:
You're kind of missing the point here. I bolded it for you.
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tcu is currently ranked #43 in the Rivals ratings, KSU is #57. You would to think that a 1 loss, BCS bowl season vs. a 6 loss, no bowl season would mean more than 14 spots in the rankings... :dunno:
You're kind of missing the point here. I bolded it for you.
The post I replied to was concerning recruiting, so I got that point just fine, thanks though. Along your point, how many you wins do think we would have had this year with their schedule? tcu is a good team and G Patt is a very good coach, but thinking he would come in and do a much better job than Snyder is pretty silly. Nobody is really bitching about the Xs and Os from this staff, they're bitching about our poor recruiting, past and present. I got news for you: G Patt has never recruited well, at a school located in the freaking DFW.
Virgina
Texas State
Clemson
SMU
Air Force
Colorado State
BYU
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah
Wyoming
New Mexico
Boise State
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This thread is like a massive car-wreck on Seth Child. I wish I could stop reading, but it's so bad, I just can't.
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The post I replied to was concerning recruiting, so I got that point just fine, thanks though. Along your point, how many you wins do think we would have had this year with their schedule? tcu is a good team and G Patt is a very good coach, but thinking he would come in and do a much better job than Snyder is pretty silly. Nobody is really bitching about the Xs and Os from this staff, they're bitching about our poor recruiting, past and present. I got news for you: G Patt has never recruited well, at a school located in the freaking DFW.
He has been a great recruiter for the level he is at.
This year, according to your precious rivals team rankings, he has the 3rd best non-BCS class and best star average of that group.
Last year he had the #2 non-BCS recruiting class (highest average stars).
2008 wasn't a great year, but again in 2007 he had the best star average among non-BCS schools.
His 2006 class was the third best among non-BCS, and again, had the highest star average.
How is that not recruiting well?
:dunno:
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tcu is currently ranked #43 in the Rivals ratings, KSU is #57. You would to think that a 1 loss, BCS bowl season vs. a 6 loss, no bowl season would mean more than 14 spots in the rankings... :dunno:
You're kind of missing the point here. I bolded it for you.
The post I replied to was concerning recruiting, so I got that point just fine, thanks though. Along your point, how many you wins do think we would have had this year with their schedule? tcu is a good team and G Patt is a very good coach, but thinking he would come in and do a much better job than Snyder is pretty silly. Nobody is really bitching about the Xs and Os from this staff, they're bitching about our poor recruiting, past and present. I got news for you: G Patt has never recruited well, at a school located in the freaking DFW.
Virgina
Texas State
Clemson
SMU
Air Force
Colorado State
BYU
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah
Wyoming
New Mexico
Boise State
This year's KSU team/staff goes 5-8 against that schedule
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The post I replied to was concerning recruiting, so I got that point just fine, thanks though. Along your point, how many you wins do think we would have had this year with their schedule? tcu is a good team and G Patt is a very good coach, but thinking he would come in and do a much better job than Snyder is pretty silly. Nobody is really bitching about the Xs and Os from this staff, they're bitching about our poor recruiting, past and present. I got news for you: G Patt has never recruited well, at a school located in the freaking DFW.
He has been a great recruiter for the level he is at.
This year, according to your precious rivals team rankings, he has the 3rd best non-BCS class and best star average of that group.
Last year he had the #2 non-BCS recruiting class (highest average stars).
2008 wasn't a great year, but again in 2007 he had the best star average among non-BCS schools.
His 2006 class was the third best among non-BCS, and again, had the highest star average.
How is that not recruiting well?
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Spin it however it suits you. But over the last 6 years, tcu's classes have avg'd 2.52 stars and had an average team ranking of #65. I would imagine that G Patt and his staff would continue to recruit Texas heavily if he was to become the HC at KSU. What players that he might have missed out on at tcu would he be able to convince to sign with KSU? What players would have signed with him at tcu that would not sign with KSU? Keep in mind that, over the same time period, our recruiting classes have avg'd 2.72 stars and avg'd a #42 national ranking. I think we would all agree that we do not have enough talent to really be anything more than a mediocre (at best) Big 12 team. Do you really think that G Patt would be able to recruit consistent top 30 classes at KSU? I personally think you need that type of talent to really be any sort of contender in the Big 12. And I really like how you incorporated avg star ratings in your post, as I am fairly certain you have discredited this practice in previous posts concerning KSU's current recruiting class. And Rival's rankings are certainly not "precious" to me, but it's really about the only unbiased way to look at recruiting over a several year long time period.
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recruiting rankings are a pretty good indicator of success.
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Spin it however it suits you. But over the last 6 years, tcu's classes have avg'd 2.52 stars and had an average team ranking of #65. I would imagine that G Patt and his staff would continue to recruit Texas heavily if he was to become the HC at KSU. What players that he might have missed out on at tcu would he be able to convince to sign with KSU? What players would have signed with him at tcu that would not sign with KSU? Keep in mind that, over the same time period, our recruiting classes have avg'd 2.72 stars and avg'd a #42 national ranking. I think we would all agree that we do not have enough talent to really be anything more than a mediocre (at best) Big 12 team. Do you really think that G Patt would be able to recruit consistent top 30 classes at KSU? I personally think you need that type of talent to really be any sort of contender in the Big 12. And I really like how you incorporated avg star ratings in your post, as I am fairly certain you have discredited this practice in previous posts concerning KSU's current recruiting class. And Rival's rankings are certainly not "precious" to me, but it's really about the only unbiased way to look at recruiting over a several year long time period.
LMAO, he coaches in the MOUNTAIN WEST. NO ONE RECRUITS BETTER AT HIS LEVEL THAN HE DOES. Quit comparing his classes to KSU - we are more attractive to recruits than tcu.
Labelling Patterson a sh*tty recruiter because he isn't outrecruiting everyone in the BCS at a MOUNTAIN WEST SCHOOL goes beyond retarded. Even with his sh*tty conference/TV deal, he wins battles with BCS schools. At a BCS school, he would win even more. Even at piddly poor lil old KSU.
And I have never discounted "average stars".
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what was Tressell's average star rankings before he got to tOSU? Turner Gill recruited at NU..why didn't that transfer over to buffalo? What about Pinkel's average recruiting rankings at Toledo before he got to MU?
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what was Tressell's average star rankings before he got to tOSU? Turner Gill recruited at NU..why didn't that transfer over to buffalo? What about Pinkel's average recruiting rankings at Toledo before he got to MU?
Youngstown State is a FCS program. Turner Gill recruited to freaking Nebraska. It's very possible that he simply isn't that great of a recruiter, I guess we'll see over the next few years at uk. Toledo is not located smack dab in the middle of perhaps the most fertile recruiting grounds on the country. Yeah, there is some talent in Ohio, but not like there is in Texas. Yeah, if G Patt landed at an Arkansas, TTU, Ole Miss, etc he probably would start signing top 20s consistently. I just think we would need a group of extraordinary recruiters as assistants with G Patt to really get our recruiting where it needs to be. Dude's a great coach and I would be happy with him here. But maybe we might need to go with a coordinator from a name school that has proven to be a outstanding recruiter?
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But maybe we might need to go with a coordinator from a name school that has proven to be a outstanding recruiter?
If you're talking about Venzy, I agree. But I wouldn't dismiss Gary and his staff's ability to evaluate talent because they've only done it (successfully) at a "mid major" level. I think it would translate.
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what was Tressell's average star rankings before he got to tOSU? Turner Gill recruited at NU..why didn't that transfer over to buffalo? What about Pinkel's average recruiting rankings at Toledo before he got to MU?
Youngstown State is a FCS program. Turner Gill recruited to freaking Nebraska. It's very possible that he simply isn't that great of a recruiter, I guess we'll see over the next few years at uk. Toledo is not located smack dab in the middle of perhaps the most fertile recruiting grounds on the country. Yeah, there is some talent in Ohio, but not like there is in Texas. Yeah, if G Patt landed at an Arkansas, TTU, Ole Miss, etc he probably would start signing top 20s consistently. I just think we would need a group of extraordinary recruiters as assistants with G Patt to really get our recruiting where it needs to be. Dude's a great coach and I would be happy with him here. But maybe we might need to go with a coordinator from a name school that has proven to be a outstanding recruiter?
I don't understand how this post meshes with your blind Snyder love. Snyder's recruiting has been garbage for quite a while.
I, too, would have no issues with Venzy. But many say he isn't a proven recruiter because he recruits to OU, (which is stupid).
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But maybe we might need to go with a coordinator from a name school that has proven to be a outstanding recruiter?
If you're talking about Venzy, I agree. But I wouldn't dismiss Gary and his staff's ability to evaluate talent because they've only done it (successfully) at a "mid major" level. I think it would translate.
I'm not really sure which coordinator would be best, but Venzy is certainly on the short list. Obviously Gary and his staff can identify talent at a very high level but we all know that identifying talent and closing the deal in Manhattan are not the same thing. We were/are listed with many high level recruits but we haven't been able to close on near enough of them lately. Maybe Gary would be able to lure some hot young OC or DC from another BCS program to assist with the recruiting? (I imagine the current tcu DC would take over as HC after Gary leaves and I'm not all that high on their OC, though he did a really nice job this year.)
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what was Tressell's average star rankings before he got to tOSU? Turner Gill recruited at NU..why didn't that transfer over to buffalo? What about Pinkel's average recruiting rankings at Toledo before he got to MU?
Youngstown State is a FCS program. Turner Gill recruited to freaking Nebraska. It's very possible that he simply isn't that great of a recruiter, I guess we'll see over the next few years at uk. Toledo is not located smack dab in the middle of perhaps the most fertile recruiting grounds on the country. Yeah, there is some talent in Ohio, but not like there is in Texas. Yeah, if G Patt landed at an Arkansas, TTU, Ole Miss, etc he probably would start signing top 20s consistently. I just think we would need a group of extraordinary recruiters as assistants with G Patt to really get our recruiting where it needs to be. Dude's a great coach and I would be happy with him here. But maybe we might need to go with a coordinator from a name school that has proven to be a outstanding recruiter?
I don't understand how this post meshes with your blind Snyder love. Snyder's recruiting has been garbage for quite a while.
I, too, would have no issues with Venzy. But many say he isn't a proven recruiter because he recruits to OU, (which is stupid).
I'm not happy with our recent recruiting either, it certainly needs to improve. I just think that we will do it gradually. It's not easy to recruit to MHK, even moreso after our recent history of suckiness. Success on the field tends to lead to improved success on the recruiting trail. And it's not that I believe Snyder is the best possible coach for us anymore. I just believe that he is one of the best coaches ever and it irritates me when people attempt to discredit his coaching ability. Interestingly, Snyder's last three completed classes have avg'd 2.73 stars and a national ranking of #48, numbers Patterson has only matched or beaten once in his time at tcu.
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Patterson just got beat by Boise freaking State in the biggest game of his career, gmafb. Mountain West is perfect for him, and he for it.
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Patterson just got beat by Boise freaking State in the biggest game of his career, gmafb. Mountain West is perfect for him, and he for it.
Dude, Boise is pretty freaking good. They demolished the Pac 10 champs this year and you can't discredit what they did to OU the last time they were in the Fiesta Bowl. Yeah, tcu's kids were way too amped up for the game, but it's pretty difficult to totally prepare a team for a situation they have never been in before. G Patt's one hell of a coach. Hate to see what he would do at a school like OU...
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Patterson just got beat by Boise freaking State in the biggest game of his career, gmafb. Mountain West is perfect for him, and he for it.
Bill Snyder just got beat by Louisiana Lafayette :confused:
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Patterson just got beat by Boise freaking State in the biggest game of his career, gmafb. Mountain West is perfect for him, and he for it.
Bill Snyder just got beat by Louisiana Lafayette :confused:
Your point? I didn't mention Bill Snyder. Are Patterson and Snyder the only options?
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what was Tressell's average star rankings before he got to tOSU? Turner Gill recruited at NU..why didn't that transfer over to buffalo? What about Pinkel's average recruiting rankings at Toledo before he got to MU?
Another angle to help solidify your point is Urban Meyer at Utah. He didn't recruit for crap there but he's been unbelievable at UF. Course, recruiting to Gainesville >>>>>>>>Manhattan, but maybe G Patt could also find some sort of comparable success with the Cats. Maybe I'm warming up a bit to the idea... :dunno:
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Another angle to help solidify your point is Urban Meyer at Utah. He didn't recruit for crap there but he's been unbelievable at UF. Course, recruiting to Gainesville >>>>>>>>Manhattan, but maybe G Patt could also find some sort of comparable success with the Cats. Maybe I'm warming up a bit to the idea... :dunno:
Pretty far stretch to infer Patterson's potential success from what Urban Meyer has done. One is a western Kansas turd, and the other is a complete bad ass with charisma oozing from every pore.
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Pretty far stretch to infer Patterson's potential success from what Urban Meyer has done. One is a western Kansas turd, and the other is a complete bad ass with charisma oozing from every pore.
LOL, nicely done
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ppl need to understand that the recruiting rankings dont mean squat really
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And it's not that I believe Snyder is the best possible coach for us anymore. I just believe that he is one of the best coaches ever and it irritates me when people attempt to discredit his coaching ability.
None of Snyder's critics are descrediting his "coaching ability". It's just that his "coaching ability" is irrelevant because he has a sh*tty staff full of sh*tty recruiters and therefore has sh*tty recruiting classes and sh*tty teams.
Interestingly, Snyder's last three completed classes have avg'd 2.73 stars and a national ranking of #48, numbers Patterson has only matched or beaten once in his time at tcu.
what did I tell you about comparing tcu recruiting to KSU recruiting? It's beyond idiotic. Compare apples to apples.
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Even a "Western Kansas Turd" can recruit pretty decent Texas talent to an attractive school located in DFW. Not so sure that a somewhat quirky personality like him could go out and get higher rated talent to come to Manhattan. He probably couldn't even get some of the Texas kids he's getting now.
Right now he's located smack dab in the middle of the second richest recruiting base in the country primarily competing with schools located in states with more lots more cows than people and he's making almost as much money as Snyder. If he gives up that sweet gig, it surely will be to go somewhere with more recruiting advantages and more money than KSU can offer.
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Even a "Western Kansas Turd" can recruit pretty decent Texas talent to an attractive school located in DFW. He probably couldn't even get some of the Texas kids he's getting now. Right now he's located smack dab in the middle of the second richest recruiting base in the country primarily competing with schools located in states with more lots more cows than people and he's making almost as much money as Snyder.
If it's so effing easy, why haven't SMU or UNT done anything remotely comparable to tcu? Or Rice, Houston, or Central Florida? He isn't the only non-BCS coach in fertile recruiting ground, loser.
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Even a "Western Kansas Turd" can recruit pretty decent Texas talent to an attractive school located in DFW. Not so sure that a somewhat quirky personality like him could go out and get higher rated talent to come to Manhattan. He probably couldn't even get some of the Texas kids he's getting now.
Right now he's located smack dab in the middle of the second richest recruiting base in the country primarily competing with schools located in states with more lots more cows than people and he's making almost as much money as Snyder. If he gives up that sweet gig, it surely will be to go somewhere with more recruiting advantages and more money than KSU can offer.
What state produces more D1 talent? I guess maybe Florida, but just sheer population numbers say Texas would produce more...
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"Dan was just lucky enough to be the head man in charge when they started to have success...."
You must have missed the double-digit win seasons by Boise under Dirk Koetter in the late 90s. Dan was lucky enough to take over from Koetter.
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Even a "Western Kansas Turd" can recruit pretty decent Texas talent to an attractive school located in DFW. Not so sure that a somewhat quirky personality like him could go out and get higher rated talent to come to Manhattan. He probably couldn't even get some of the Texas kids he's getting now.
Right now he's located smack dab in the middle of the second richest recruiting base in the country primarily competing with schools located in states with more lots more cows than people and he's making almost as much money as Snyder. If he gives up that sweet gig, it surely will be to go somewhere with more recruiting advantages and more money than KSU can offer.
You're a complete idiot if you don't think he's already accepted a job here once.