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Title: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: Pete on December 16, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
I received a PM awhile back from a really HFBIQ EMAW, likely in response to one of my many, many bitch sessions about us not landing a marquee QB since 1998 (still true, BTW).

I wanted to share it with you, because it was comforting to me then and has grown on me since...the important part is not that it's particularly revolutionary thought, but that it came from someone whose thoughts on this I respect.

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Snyder is grinning ear to ear looking at next year's offense.

If he adds a Terry/McDonald type of receiver it will not be stopped next year.  We don't need Cam Newton to be the QB either.

Ask yourself this question.  If Harper was in the backfield with Thomas this past season how many huge plays would those two have popped as opposed to Gregory being in the backfield?

Klein is a huge asset.  While he's not that athlete either Harper or Thomas is he just spent a season learning the wide receiver position and I can guarantee if he's QB he will do no worse as a passer than Gregory.  But if you have both Harper and Thomas on the field, not to mention Klein's size and strength, and what should be an even more improved OL he won't need to complete that many passes.

Seriously, this offense will be very difficult to stop next year just with what we have coming back and the addition of Harper and Brodrick Smith.

A Terry/McDonald receiver is only gravy.

So, don't be that "oh no" QB poster.  "jesus, man.  It's going to be okay".


Kenny Davis might be the Terry/McDonald referred to above, but he's having eligibility problems http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Kenny-Davis-103977, so that puts some damper on the prognosis above.

However, add in Hubert coming in as a redshirt freshman and Demarcus Robinson, and you have a freaking fleet of speed guys at RB that could line up all over the place.

I'd LOVE to see us just say frack it, and run the hell out of the ball....especially against the Big 12 North teams we'll face.  Take a look at this list below.  This is a list of some notable teams this past season, and their run-to-pass ration and total offense rank.  There are a lot of teams on that list that had personnel similar to what we'll have next year.  


(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a107/big12north/runpass.jpg)

Call me "converted," but I am finally buying in on the idea that offensive philosophy is swinging back around to the run.  Snyder talked at LENGTH about how he believed the triple option (and other option based attacks) would come back when he was interviewed prior to the season, and even when he was sitting around watching games during his sabbatical.  Doodz, we have the perfect fracking personnel to be a damn good running team.  Sure, we need to keep recruiting OL at a high level (we have the best one in KS locked up for next year already) and FB (you "grow" these, not recruit them, IMO), but we rock at RB recruiting....always have.


I guess what I am saying is  :steadymobbin':


Let's go play some D (  :pray: TP is right and VK wasn't a messiah) and fracking run the ball, bitches.  :kstatriot:




Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: outofstate on December 16, 2009, 12:52:55 PM
 :woohoo: :steadymobbin': :WeirdRobert:
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 12:58:53 PM
that might be the most powertarded post I've ever read.  Our Offense will undoubtably be better. but what are we bringing in on D?
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 16, 2009, 01:05:52 PM
Terry is going to ku.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
Terry is going to ku.

oh noes
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: Pete on December 16, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
that might be the most powertarded post I've ever read.  Our Offense will undoubtably be better. but what are we bringing in on D?

I agree.  Felt really 'tarded even as I was writing it....but I believe it, bro.  

Who knows on D.  We have enough juco "question marks" coming in on the D-Line to give me reason for wildly over-optimistic hope, but I suspect it will come down to our ability to land a decent Juco LB or two with our last couple spots.  Mostly, I'll just assume they'll be decent until they crush my hopes.


Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: Pete on December 16, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
Terry is going to ku.

oh noes

Freshman WR's  :jerkoff:

Random, seemingly-no-name-juco-WR's at KSU since &@#%ing forever:  :dancin:
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 01:09:12 PM
that might be the most powertarded post I've ever read.  Our Offense will undoubtably be better. but what are we bringing in on D?

I agree.  Felt really 'tarded even as I was writing it....but I believe it, bro.  

Who knows on D.  We have enough juco "question marks" coming in on the D-Line to give me reason for wildly over-optimistic hope, but I suspect it will come down to our ability to land a decent Juco LB or two with our last couple spots.  Mostly, I'll just assume they'll be decent until they crush my hopes.




also we have a Quincy morgan clone but he never got the ball thrown to him.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: Bullfn33 on December 16, 2009, 01:42:49 PM
Do we still have aubrey quarles? I know he didn't play this year but was wondering what his deal was.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 01:48:38 PM
Do we still have aubrey quarles? I know he didn't play this year but was wondering what his deal was.

he's slow and sucks
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: KSUTOMMY on December 16, 2009, 01:58:42 PM
Speaking of the D, is that Grant Valentine JUCO guy from the Prince Error still on the team? He was a 4* DT and from what I recall he was rough around the edges, but had nice upside?
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 02:04:03 PM
Speaking of the D, is that Grant Valentine JUCO guy from the Prince Error still on the team? He was a 4* DT and from what I recall he was rough around the edges, but had nice upside?

Undersized DE. Played in 3 games early.  Not good.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: mcmwcat on December 16, 2009, 02:16:38 PM
our receivers are all basically terrible and we have a QB we'll have either Coffman at QB or a QB with zero experience.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: purplebybirth on December 16, 2009, 02:17:47 PM
samuel lamur
(http://media1.suburbanchicagonews.com/multimedia/JO31_JJC_P2_scn_feed_20080830_23_29_07_250-400-350.imageContent)

i'm just sayin'
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 16, 2009, 02:30:33 PM
The good news is Sammy is digging into the playbook.

The Bad news is Sammy has been doing it for 6 months and almost has page 3 down pat.

Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 16, 2009, 02:31:06 PM
samuel lamur
(http://media1.suburbanchicagonews.com/multimedia/JO31_JJC_P2_scn_feed_20080830_23_29_07_250-400-350.imageContent)

i'm just sayin'


Skinny guy with chicken legs.  Looks like a good WR though.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: purplebybirth on December 16, 2009, 02:33:09 PM


Skinny guy with chicken legs.  Looks like a good WR though.fantastic speed with a cannon arm. and black.

fyp



Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: WillieWannabe on December 16, 2009, 02:36:44 PM
Good to see MVPete. Good to see.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 16, 2009, 02:38:28 PM


Skinny guy with chicken legs.  Looks like a good WR though.fantastic speed with a cannon arm. and black.

fyp



Seriously though, if hes too slow at learning the playbook then tell him to run a certain direction and catch the ball.  I'd rather use the guy than have him sit at the sidelines staring at page 3 for the rest of his college career.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: purplebybirth on December 16, 2009, 02:40:36 PM
showed up real late in fall camp, and was behind from the get go. coaches decided to just let him be scout team, and red shirt. dude's gonna be good.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: wiley03 on December 16, 2009, 02:44:49 PM
This season was fracked anyway when we lost to LALA...why waste eligibility when we had a QB we could throw out there and could let him get pegged.

Don't believe the playbook garbage, we spoon fed Gregory part of the offense.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: pissclams on December 16, 2009, 03:39:11 PM
i  :love: s_lammy
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: michigancat on December 16, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
This season was fracked anyway when we lost to LALA...why waste eligibility when we had a QB we could throw out there and could let him get pegged.

Don't believe the playbook garbage, we spoon fed Gregory part of the offense.

didn't our game against NU have the division title on the line?

:dunno:
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: Pete on December 16, 2009, 03:46:25 PM
our receivers are all basically terrible and we have a QB we'll have either Coffman at QB or a QB with zero experience.

There is no heavenly chance that Carson plays QB for us.  He might as well transfer right &@#%ing now.



We had a QB with zero experience last year and we almost won the North.  We'll swap out a zero experience QB with no arm and no legs for two with legs, AND add TWO more premier RB's.

Jesus, we'll be better on offense doodz.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: wiley03 on December 16, 2009, 03:51:20 PM
we'll have a homerun threat in the backfield.

Thomas was never a threat to break much more than a 40 yard gain because he doesn't have that crazy speed.  Next year we'll have that.  As well as a QB that can out run a DT
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: fatty fat fat on December 16, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
we'll be like the 2002 offense, no?

I'm worried texas will shut us down w/o a passing threat.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 16, 2009, 04:09:06 PM
 :bong: :bong: :bong:

Sorry . . . but the Bill will fix it, look at what we've got next year shtick has officially been put into mothballs until OB proves it again.

Sniff, sniff I smell Outland . . . has left the building.

Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 16, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
we'll be like the 2002 offense, no?

I'm worried texas will shut us down w/o a passing threat.

We'll have much better WR though.

also our defense is going to look like 04/05 redux.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: wiley03 on December 16, 2009, 04:44:38 PM
we'll be like the 2002 offense, no?

I'm worried texas will shut us down w/o a passing threat.

We'll have much better WR though.

also our defense is going to look like 04/05 redux.

Gill is about ready to pwn us recruiting wise...just hoping he can't coach (seems plausible) :angry:
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: PurpleReign on December 16, 2009, 09:59:31 PM
:bong: :bong: :bong:

Sorry . . . but the Bill will fix it, look at what we've got next year shtick has officially been put into mothballs until OB proves it again.

Sniff, sniff I smell Outland . . . has left the building.



Why is there not a meltdown approved stamp yet?

Did he not prove something this year with the no-talent QB's that we had on the roster? Competing for the north championship is all you can ask for on a yearly basis. Next year we should be 4-0 going into conference play and we will at least make some noise even with no QB talent the same way we did this year. 
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on December 16, 2009, 10:20:34 PM
Ignore all of Ben Wiseman's posts.  He is a bandwagon poser.

TIA
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 16, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
:bong: :bong: :bong:

Sorry . . . but the Bill will fix it, look at what we've got next year shtick has officially been put into mothballs until OB proves it again.

Sniff, sniff I smell Outland . . . has left the building.



Why is there not a meltdown approved stamp yet?

Did he not prove something this year with the no-talent QB's that we had on the roster? Competing for the north championship is all you can ask for on a yearly basis. Next year we should be 4-0 going into conference play and we will at least make some noise even with no QB talent the same way we did this year. 

 :kstatriot: :powertard:
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert
Post by: emawbin on December 16, 2009, 11:58:16 PM
So there is no shot at Harper playing qb next year?  Didn't he play qb in high school and a little bit at Oregon before moving to wr? 
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 17, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
He still has his shot at QB.  If he didn't, he wouldn't have transfered.
Title: Re: QB recruiting "woes," and why I now try to see a silver linning (HFBIQ Alert)
Post by: cireksu on December 17, 2009, 01:29:17 PM
who cares about harper?  if he's good enough he'll win it.  if not he'll play WR.  BFD.