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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Guscat on December 15, 2009, 10:42:13 AM
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Can't find link, but there was rumbling in the Kansas City Star that Mizzou would seriously entertain an invitation to join the Big 10. The program is upset that the Big 12 could not do more to keep them in the Insight Bowl, and are hacked that they are going to Texas Bowl. And from their standpoint, not getting the Orange Bowl in 2007 was a genuine insult, and the Big 12 didn't do anything to ku for Lew Perkins maneuvering to steal the bowl bid from Mizzou.
Now I ran across an ESPN article from their Big 10 beat writer, talking about expansion. No mention of Mizzou was made specifically (Notre Dame only team mentioned). Big 10 has smarter TV and revenue sharing agreements among conference members--would that be attractive to Mizzou? See:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4735336
Thoughts on the dynamics of such a switch if it were to take place?
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NU makes more sense imo
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Mizzou would be a really good addition to the big 10 IMO. Solid bball/fb combo. not a geographic stretch by any means, large number of tv's between KC/StL.
If I were them I'd be ticked off too.
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DeArmond
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/571 (http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/571)
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Would love to get rid of MU. Plus, since their rival is IL, it would add that much more intrigue to the B10.
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I think a Cincy or Pitt moving to the Big 10 is more likely...
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
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Goddamn those tards are hilarious. They actually think they'd bring more fans to a bowl than Iowa State :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
Hopefully CSU. Ft. Collins roadys :love:
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
Hopefully CSU. Ft. Collins roadys :love:
Yeah but Sonny Lubick Family Stadium is too small :'(
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Arkansas?
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I agree that Mizzou isn't getting the best play on bowl bids, etc., what do you expect when you hire Gary Forsee as President...
They have been talking off and on about going to the Big 10 for many years.
All I can say is don't let the door hit you on the way out. :buh-bye:
Oh and Mrs. cyclist is a Mizzou alumna. She thinks going to the Big 10 is :AzCatBS: as well.
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
tcu :ohno:
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Mizzou would be a really good addition to the big 10 IMO. Solid bball/fb combo. not a geographic stretch by any means, large number of tv's between KC/StL.
If I were them I'd be ticked off too.
They never win anything significant at either, and their academics aren't strong enough.
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Notre Dame? Wouldn't we need a North team since Mizzou is/was in the North?
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Notre Dame? Wouldn't we need a North team since Mizzou is/was in the North?
Man, good call cf0506!
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Mizzou would be a really good addition to the big 10 IMO. Solid bball/fb combo. not a geographic stretch by any means, large number of tv's between KC/StL.
If I were them I'd be ticked off too.
They never win anything significant at either, and their academics aren't strong enough.
NO one in the big 12 is going to win anything significant as long as Texas and OU have Brown/Stoops.
and LMAO at any ku fan downplaying mizzou academics. Don't be an acaademic homer for ku lol
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Texas and OU have Brown/Stoops.
Monsters.
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Mizzou would be a really good addition to the big 10 IMO. Solid bball/fb combo. not a geographic stretch by any means, large number of tv's between KC/StL.
If I were them I'd be ticked off too.
They never win anything significant at either, and their academics aren't strong enough.
NO one in the big 12 is going to win anything significant as long as Texas and OU have Brown/Stoops.
and LMAO at any ku fan downplaying mizzou academics. Don't be an acaademic homer for ku lol
Totally disregarding that ku outranked Missouri in U.S. World and News Report's study ;) ...
I don't think that ku has the academics to be in the Big 10 either. But even if you don't believe ku is a better school, that doesn't mean that Missouri has the academics for the Big 10.
And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.
So I reiterate. They (nor ku, if that makes you happy) don't have the academics to be in the Big 10. Nor do they have a winning pedigree in, well, anything.
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Getting rid of NU would be fantastic. We'd never, ever, hear another word about that garbage school in the KC media again. It would be as if they never existed.
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I'd say Bon Voyage if this were true. Lose MU, add tcu. Then do some sort of East/West or 4 pod realignment...it'd be bad ass.
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Mini divisions with the winners advancing to a playoff for the big 12 title.
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And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.
that's the reason they want to leave dumbfvk. cuz they got screwed out of BCS when you backed into it in 07. as members of the big 10 they wouldn't get bent over in the same situation.
edit: plus the big 10 doesn't care whether or not they have a winning pedigree. they want $/tv sets
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I'd say Bon Voyage if this were true. Lose MU, add tcu. Then do some sort of East/West or 4 pod realignment...it'd be bad ass.
You better hope to hell we get Patterson prior to tcu coming aboard with the B12 in this scenario.
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I'd say Bon Voyage if this were true. Lose MU, add tcu. Then do some sort of East/West or 4 pod realignment...it'd be bad ass.
You better hope to hell we get Patterson prior to tcu coming aboard with the B12 in this scenario.
+1
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I'd say Bon Voyage if this were true. Lose MU, add tcu. Then do some sort of East/West or 4 pod realignment...it'd be bad ass.
You better hope to hell we get Patterson prior to tcu coming aboard with the B12 in this scenario.
That would be so schadenfreude amazing. I may preemptively seek out and befriend some tcu fans just in case this happens so I can fully enjoy it.
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And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.
that's the reason they want to leave dumbfvk. cuz they got screwed out of BCS when you backed into it in 07. as members of the big 10 they wouldn't get bent over in the same situation.
edit: plus the big 10 doesn't care whether or not they have a winning pedigree. they want $/tv sets
They continually get "screwed" out of bowl games because they have poor fan support, and the ones who do show up make asses out of themselves. Yet another great attribute to bring to the Big 10.
When bowls would rather have ku (bad fan support) and Iowa State (good, not outstanding fan support) than your school, it's time to realize that the conference might not be the problem ... dumbfvk.
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
Iowa :Carl:
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Mizzou would be a really good addition to the big 10 IMO. Solid bball/fb combo. not a geographic stretch by any means, large number of tv's between KC/StL.
If I were them I'd be ticked off too.
They never win anything significant at either, and their academics aren't strong enough.
NO one in the big 12 is going to win anything significant as long as Texas and OU have Brown/Stoops.
and LMAO at any ku fan downplaying mizzou academics. Don't be an acaademic homer for ku lol
Totally disregarding that ku outranked Missouri in U.S. World and News Report's study ;) ...
I don't think that ku has the academics to be in the Big 10 either. But even if you don't believe ku is a better school, that doesn't mean that Missouri has the academics for the Big 10.
And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.
So I reiterate. They (nor ku, if that makes you happy) don't have the academics to be in the Big 10. Nor do they have a winning pedigree in, well, anything.
US News & World Report is a pr competition, not a genuine or meanigful evaluation of a school's academic quality. People that know what they're talking about ALWAYS rank a specific program major (engineering, accounting, primary education, etc.), not the university. ku doesn't stand out when viewed from that standpoint, but the brainless students and supporters don't understand meaningful academic evaluation, and will spout this line at any opportunity. All it does is brand them as lacking knowledge of evaluating academic excellence. FWIW, my K-State program major was in the top 15 schools nationally, ku was not even in the top 100, even though my ku colleagues were certain they graduated from an Ivy League equivalent. Too funny.
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
tcu in the South and move OSU to the North. Gundy would see it as a great way to reach the Big XII Championship game.
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MU to Big10 is nothing but delusions of grandeur....which seems about right from that toothless bunch of meth-heads.
B10 is holding their one additional spot for Notre Dame, nothing else makes sense. ND is beginning to see the folly of maintaining independence. Even NBC is gonna figure out they could do better than showing gold-domers gettin' their arse whipped every saturday. 1 BCS bowl every five years is not gonna get it done....and one thing the BCS playoff is demonstrating is that you gotta be a part of a conference.
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tcu doesn't have the fan support to be in the big 12. They are a top 10 team and at one point had under 25,000 in attendance for a home game. Would love to see Iowa join the Big 12 though. Get rid of CU?
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Goddamn those tards are hilarious. They actually think they'd bring more fans to a bowl than Iowa State :lol: :lol: :lol:
Heard on KMOX last night that ISU had sold 5000 tickets to their bowl and MU had sold 4200. I am awed by the support these two programs have.
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Mini divisions with the winners advancing to a playoff for the big 12 title.
I just went from 6 to midnight thinking about this.
Mini 1
TX
TX A&M
Baylor
Mini 2
OK
OK St
TX Tch
Mini 3
Kansas State
Kansas
Missouri
Mini 4
Colorado
NU
ISU
You could devise all sorts of crazy ways to decide who the winner of every pod plays. Say the winner of the Pod with the best winning % is the 1 seed and plays the winner of the pod with the lowest win %. You could even develop a system where 1 team from the pod changes every year but at least 2 of the original teams stay the same.
Its like a wet dream come true!
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And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.
that's the reason they want to leave dumbfvk. cuz they got screwed out of BCS when you backed into it in 07. as members of the big 10 they wouldn't get bent over in the same situation.
edit: plus the big 10 doesn't care whether or not they have a winning pedigree. they want $/tv sets
They continually get "screwed" out of bowl games because they have poor fan support, and the ones who do show up make asses out of themselves. Yet another great attribute to bring to the Big 10.
When bowls would rather have ku (bad fan support) and Iowa State (good, not outstanding fan support) than your school, it's time to realize that the conference might not be the problem ... dumbfvk.
I like how this board brings out flare's feisty side.
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Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?
Iowa :Carl:
:facepalm:
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Tim Griffin gave his infinite wisdom on why Mizzou would listen:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/8421/8421
According to him the B10 wouldn't want Nub because it doesn't touch Iowa.
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According to him the B10 wouldn't want Nub because it doesn't touch Iowa.
Must be that new Texas geography.
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Do they really think they'd have better favor in the Big 10? I'd bet that Ohio State, Michigan, etc. have the same pull as the top 4 in the Big 12.
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Do they really think they'd have better favor in the Big 10? I'd bet that Ohio State, Michigan, etc. have the same pull as the top 4 in the Big 12.
Exactly. And then it would be Indiana or Minnesota jumping them for the Poulan Weedeater bowl.
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The Big10 would go after Moo for one reason, the STL and KC tv market to add to the Big10 Network.
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Bring on Arkansas.
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Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10? As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too. I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10. They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference. LOLz.
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Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10? As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too. I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10. They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference. LOLz.
How do you assess their academic ranking? I hope it's not US News & World Report--see my comments above. Believe me, Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin have HUGE enrollments whose instructional quality are very difficult to maintain. I think Mizzou would do just fine, and perhaps excel. They have some excellent programs.
More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html
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More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html
DeArmand is trash. He's got no sources on this, he's got no facts....just a bunch of sour grapes and speculation.
However, I do agree that if the Big 10 wants them, Mizzou goes to the Big 10. It's a better deal for weaker schools in a conference. If you're not one of the biggest in the Big 12, you get deprived of a lot of benefits that the Big 10 provides ALL of it's schools.
Replacement would be a complete cluster &@#%. There is NO WAY on God's green earth that Arkansas leaves the $EC for less exposure and revenue in the Big 12. What are we left with then? Cherry pick the best 9K enrollment private school in Texas/Oklahoma? Crap facilities and apathetic fan bases from CSU or Missouri State? Guess we could go after Utah, but good luck on that travel schedule.
It would hurt the Big 12 a ton if Mizzou left, and help Mizzou out a ton.
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Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10? As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too. I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10. They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference. LOLz.
no way. Who cares about academics. This is a sports move by the big 10. they probably want a CCG.
Mizzou has good baseball great wrestling. Football would hold it's own, and they'd be one of the better bball programs.
I agree, if they are offered they'd be dumb not to go.
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More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html
DeArmand is trash. He's got no sources on this, he's got no facts....just a bunch of sour grapes and speculation.
However, I do agree that if the Big 10 wants them, Mizzou goes to the Big 10. It's a better deal for weaker schools in a conference. If you're not one of the biggest in the Big 12, you get deprived of a lot of benefits that the Big 10 provides ALL of it's schools.
Replacement would be a complete cluster frack. There is NO WAY on God's green earth that Arkansas leaves the $EC for less exposure and revenue in the Big 12. What are we left with then? Cherry pick the best 9K enrollment private school in Texas/Oklahoma? Crap facilities and apathetic fan bases from CSU or Missouri State? Guess we could go after Utah, but good luck on that travel schedule.
It would hurt the Big 12 a ton if Mizzou left, and help Mizzou out a ton.
You're right, no way Arkansas leaves the SEC. No way.
I think tcu actually might be logical. Another Texas school, not a big enrollment and they're private, but they do have some serious financial support, their athletic programs can compete, and Dallas is a big market.
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Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.
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Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.
I know, man, but when you look around there are very, very few qualified replacements.
Hell, our conference is already run by Texas, might as well make this &@#%er official.
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Why don't we let them have MU and another school. They can call themselves the BigXII (they can't count anyway) we become the Big ten and get their network too. :beerchug:
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Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.
I know, man, but when you look around there are very, very few qualified replacements.
Hell, our conference is already run by Texas, might as well make this fracker official.
By adding tcu, we could then re-align the conference and put OU back in the North where they belong. That way NU/OU could re-establish their annual game and OU could win the division every year and could stop worrying about Texas so much in the RRR. All parties win here, folks, especially the State of Texas and Oklahoma, the two most important parts of the Big XII.
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:suicideispainless:
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I was going to say tcu, but the one problem I see is that it puts a second private school in the South.
While Yes, tcu does have good financial backing, until the last 2 games of the regular season, they still weren't filling their football stadium.
However this would re-hash more of the old SWC rivalries for them, and they could keep the SMU intra-Metroplex rivalry on their OOC. Thus giving them a strong slate of home games that would likely sell well, and given the access to Dallas visiting Big 12 teams would likely bring a strong number of fans as well.
And yeah, you're right Arkansas probably doesn't leave the lucrative TV contract fo the SEC, and while it doesn't have massive impact, adding a school located directly in an MSA of 5.5 million people never hurts when your doing a TV contract.
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SD nailed it. CSU. Total no brainer. It's settled.
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I hear Tulsa has some TVs
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GTFOMF with CSU . . . they went 3-9 this year, 0 for the conference.
Last Fiscal Year CSU spent $22 million on athletics, tcu spent $46 million on atheltics, that's the same as K-State and several other Big 12 Schools.
tcu's Football Revenue was double CSU's football revenue.
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How bouts Tulsa, Pitt State? Hell, let's get Washburn in the mix.... :blindfold:
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All the sh*t you guys are talking on CSU is the same kind of sh*t everyone else talks on us. Maybe this proves my theory that we should move to the Mountain West.
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i could see k-state moving to the big 10 before any other b12 school. we're the only ones with the academics and complete sports programs to make it. on top of that we have the fanbase and you know the B10 would be licking their collective lips at gaining some traction in the sunflower state.
academics? check. one of the best research institutions in the country.
athletics? check. best football/basketball programs combo in the country.
fans/televisions? check. one of the best fanbases in the entire country.
in B10 country? check. geographically makes perfect sense.
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fans/televisions? check. one of the best fanbases in the entire country.
Pffffffft you guys are WAY too angry for the Big 10. They already have to put up with Ohio State's angry asses and they only do that because they're Ohio State. You guys would pretty much upset the "meh" applecart :thumbsup:
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anyone that's ever been to B10 country will tell you that B10 country only speaks in emotion. k-state speaks in emotion. it's a perfect fit.
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anyone that's ever been to B10 country will tell you that B10 country only speaks in emotion. k-state speaks in emotion. it's a perfect fit.
Pretty sure they speak in unemployment slips and potlucks :lol:
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and crappy cars and rust
sorry michicat :lol:
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http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_14023234 (http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_14023234)
A reporter from the mountain folk suggests these conferences:
Big 10: Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State.
Big 12/Southwestern: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, tcu, Arkansas, SMU, Houston
Pac 10: Colorado, Utah, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State
Mountain West: Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Boise State, Air Force, Brigham Young, Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, Wyoming
And MWC would be a BCS conference.
Of course, this would mean the one conference with a CCG probably loses it where the others would add one. :dunno:
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Maybe the Big Ten should become 14 and add Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State.
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Maybe everybody should STFU and stop talking about this pointless BS cause nothing will be changing. :angry:
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Maybe K-State should join the A-10 and Texas should join the Mountain West. Not only that, but Wisconsin can join the Pac Ten and Utah can join the Big East. It'd be a grand ole' time then!!
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Maybe the Big Ten should become 14 and add Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State.
Don't be THAT Iowa State retard that thinks the Big 10 want to have anything to do with ISU. They don't. They never have, and they never will.
.....and before you say it, let me cut you off....it doesn't matter one &@#%ing bit that Iowa is in the Big 10. They aren't trying to corner the &@#%ing "Des Moines market."
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.....and before you say it, let me cut you off....it doesn't matter one fracking bit that Iowa is in the Big 10. They aren't trying to corner the fracking "Des Moines market."
don't ignore the sioux city market, pete.
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Maybe the Big Ten should become 14 and add Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State.
Don't be THAT Iowa State retard that thinks the Big 10 want to have anything to do with ISU. They don't. They never have, and they never will.
.....and before you say it, let me cut you off....it doesn't matter one fracking bit that Iowa is in the Big 10. They aren't trying to corner the fracking "Des Moines market."
I feel as though K-State fans will be bitter if ISU were to ever leave... it's like you would miss us or something...
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Maybe the Big Ten should become 14 and add Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State.
Don't be THAT Iowa State retard that thinks the Big 10 want to have anything to do with ISU. They don't. They never have, and they never will.
.....and before you say it, let me cut you off....it doesn't matter one fracking bit that Iowa is in the Big 10. They aren't trying to corner the fracking "Des Moines market."
I feel as though K-State fans will be bitter if ISU were to ever leave... it's like you would miss us or something...
Not really . . .
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Maybe the Big Ten should become 14 and add Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa State.
Don't be THAT Iowa State retard that thinks the Big 10 want to have anything to do with ISU. They don't. They never have, and they never will.
.....and before you say it, let me cut you off....it doesn't matter one fracking bit that Iowa is in the Big 10. They aren't trying to corner the fracking "Des Moines market."
I feel as though K-State fans will be bitter if ISU were to ever leave... it's like you would miss us or something...
More like miss the guaranteed W in every sport! :ku:
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http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_14023234 (http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_14023234)
A reporter from the mountain folk suggests these conferences:
Big 10: Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State.
Big 12/Southwestern: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, tcu, Arkansas, SMU, Houston
Pac 10: Colorado, Utah, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State
Mountain West: Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Boise State, Air Force, Brigham Young, Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, Wyoming
And MWC would be a BCS conference.
Of course, this would mean the one conference with a CCG probably loses it where the others would add one. :dunno:
The wounded pecker that wrote that article hates K-State, and is always designing ways to remove us from dominance of Colorado. Maybe if the Buffs were more competitive, this guy would quit wet-dreaming KSU out of the same conference as CU.