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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Saulbadguy on October 31, 2006, 02:00:45 PM
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Personally, i'd love to see him on the sidelines again.
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If he goes into the right situation (Iowa or Miami) I think it would be great and would love to see it.
If he tries to enter another rebuilding job (Minnesota or Michigan State) I think it would be a failure and painful to watch.
I would definitely have a snart-like following of wherever he ended up.
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I think it'd be cool to see what he could get done at a school that would give him halfway decent support from the administration, fanbase, and in a location he could actually recruit to.
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LOL @ Snart reference on FBall board
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I'm sorry but "no". I'd feel betrayed.
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I'm sorry but "no". I'd feel betrayed.
WTF does Snyder owe you?
I think Snyder's age would be more of a factor in recruiting than location.
Unless he ended up at Miami. :love:
I wonder if he's spending this year recruiting without NCAA restrictions.
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I don't understand the betrayed views. He did everything he could here. I think the last two years made that painfully obvious. He wasn't going to do anything here again unless he got top notch assistant coaches. If he stayed here we probably would've just fallen further if he kept the same coaches. It was time for a change for everybody involved. The only reason I don't want to see him return is because I don't want to see him fail or to have the lack of success he had the last two years. I'd love to see him come back though and be highly successful and then walk out on top.
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I'm sorry but "no". I'd feel betrayed.
I wonder if he's spending this year recruiting without NCAA restrictions.
Do you think Snyder could deliver GFBRCOAT?
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I'm sorry but "no". I'd feel betrayed.
I wonder if he's spending this year recruiting without NCAA restrictions.
Do you think Snyder could deliver GFBRCOAT?
LOL, NO.
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I'd emphatically follow his new team. If he does, and gets a school that recruits want to go to he'd challenge for the NC in short order. As long as it is not in some fashion a detriment to KSU, no problemo. But I will have regrets that, for whatever the reason, he left KSU to coach elsewhere.
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&@#% yeah! Arizona State baby! :popcorn:
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I will be hurt some if he does. I can understand him getting back into coaching; I just worry that he'll go to miami or somewhere decent, turn it around, and maybe win a championship...which I will be happy he won one, which would cement his legacy
But say he wins a NC within a couple years, can you imagine what people will say? They probably wonder why he wasted all those years at KSU, when he could have left for a better job sooner and be that much more successful.
Also, if the great Bill wins one after a couple years somewhere else, thus proving he really is a GREAT coach, then what will that say about KSU? If Snyder couldn't win one there, then what are the chances someone else will even come close?
just my thoughts on the whole thing
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I will be hurt some if he does. I can understand him getting back into coaching; I just worry that he'll go to miami or somewhere decent, turn it around, and maybe win a championship...which I will be happy he won one, which would cement his legacy
But say he wins a NC within a couple years, can you imagine what people will say? They probably wonder why he wasted all those years at KSU, when he could have left for a better job sooner and be that much more successful.
Also, if the great Bill wins one after a couple years somewhere else, thus proving he really is a GREAT coach, then what will that say about KSU? If Snyder couldn't win one there, then what are the chances someone else will even come close?
just my thoughts on the whole thing
I think Snyder pretty muched proved you can win an NC at K-State. We were definitely had enough talent to win in 98 and 2002. A Michael Bishop fumble and Gary Barnett's wizardry don't change that.
Furthermore, I'd be completely content if we continued to just win the north every 3-5 years.
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I will be hurt some if he does. I can understand him getting back into coaching; I just worry that he'll go to miami or somewhere decent, turn it around, and maybe win a championship...which I will be happy he won one, which would cement his legacy
But say he wins a NC within a couple years, can you imagine what people will say? They probably wonder why he wasted all those years at KSU, when he could have left for a better job sooner and be that much more successful.
Also, if the great Bill wins one after a couple years somewhere else, thus proving he really is a GREAT coach, then what will that say about KSU? If Snyder couldn't win one there, then what are the chances someone else will even come close?
just my thoughts on the whole thing
I think Snyder pretty muched proved you can win an NC at K-State. We were definitely had enough talent to win in 98 and 2002. A Michael Bishop fumble and Gary Barnett's wizardry don't change that.
Furthermore, I'd be completely content if we continued to just win the north every 3-5 years.
I hope your right, but we have already heard recruiting is that much harder, since recruits have to walk to manhattan nowadays.
maybe i am just being pessimistic. but i would be saddened to see him coaching else, in some other color.
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I just don't see why, if he thinks he still has something to prove, he couldn't prove whatever it is he has to prove here. We named our stadium after him for pete's sake. Could you see him going to Miami and returning to Manhattan to coach against K-State.....IN A STADIUM WITH HIS NAME ON IT? No.
I don't think this would happen but still.
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I just don't see why, if he thinks he still has something to prove, he couldn't prove whatever it is he has to prove here. We named our stadium after him for pete's sake. Could you see him going to Miami and returning to Manhattan to coach against K-State.....IN A STADIUM WITH HIS NAME ON IT? No.
Sure, why not?
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No, not at all.
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No, not at all.
Why.
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way out scenario:
Suppose he goes to Miami, wins it all within 4 years, hands the reins over and comes back home to KSU with the ability to recruit anyone. And, he could feed us recruits while he's down there that he doesn't have room for.
I know, I know.....
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I just don't see why, if he thinks he still has something to prove, he couldn't prove whatever it is he has to prove here. We named our stadium after him for pete's sake. Could you see him going to Miami and returning to Manhattan to coach against K-State.....IN A STADIUM WITH HIS NAME ON IT? No.
I don't think this would happen but still.
I never thought of that. It would be too much to take if he came back to manhattan coaching another team. imagine how hard it would be to swallow him bringing another team into "the bill" and beating the tar out of us :crybaby:
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The only thing I can think is the people that would feel betrayed are the same ones that feel we were better off with him and a crapty staff rather than anyone else. They were the ones that felt the past two years were not his fault and wanted him to continue coaching; but they knew the reason he couldn't is because he just didn't have the energy for it anymore. If he goes somewhere else, then he must have had the energy and could have continued here but he left for some reason; didn’t like it anymore, betrayed, whatever the case he left because he didn't want to be there anymore. I imagine that the people that would feel betrayed are selfish and are the types to end an unsuccessful relationship with a baseball bat through the windshield. My advice, stop rubbing your vagina, get a cream for it or whatever you have to do... just stop complaining, it's irritating it. Just be happy that someone you once loved, or possibly still do, can have an attempt at happiness again... Even if you're no longer in the picture of that new life.
He gave us so much and all we have to return is to be happy for him in whatever he decides to do from here; Or you can be a bitter little bitch; throw a baseball bat through his windshield and steal some autographed memorabilia while you're at it; and go on believing that he is an evil person because the 17 years he gave you was all a lie.
It really just seems childish.
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The only thing I can think is the people that would feel betrayed are the same ones that feel we were better off with him and a @#%$ty staff rather than anyone else. They were the ones that felt the past two years were not his fault and wanted him to continue coaching; but they knew the reason he couldn't is because he just didn't have the energy for it anymore. If he goes somewhere else, then he must have had the energy and could have continued here but he left for some reason; didn’t like it anymore, betrayed, whatever the case he left because he didn't want to be there anymore. I imagine that the people that would feel betrayed are selfish and are the types to end an unsuccessful relationship with a baseball bat through the windshield. My advice, stop rubbing your vagina, get a cream for it or whatever you have to do... just stop complaining, it's irritating it. Just be happy that someone you once loved, or possibly still do, can have an attempt at happiness again... Even if you're no longer in the picture of that new life.
He gave us so much and all we have to return is to be happy for him in whatever he decides to do from here; Or you can be a bitter little bitch; throw a baseball bat through his windshield and steal some autographed memorabilia while you're at it; and go on believing that he is an evil person because the 17 years he gave you was all a lie.
It really just seems childish.
If Snyder coached somewhere else, that would leave Jack Hartman as the only successful KSU coach to not leave for a "better" job, which will feed the ridiculous inferiortity complex held by many KSU fans and administration, which could lead to a desperate string of Dana Altman/Jimmy Wooldridge type hires.
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I just don't see why, if he thinks he still has something to prove, he couldn't prove whatever it is he has to prove here. We named our stadium after him for pete's sake.
There's your problem... It wouldn't be about something to prove. The man loves coaching. It's not about finding self worth. Do you love anything? Hunting, fishing, photography, scrapbooking, ..... anything? Do you do it because you have to prove to everybody that you are the best? Or do you do it because you love it? If you're trying to prove something, than you have some deeper issues that no hobby can fix.
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If Snyder coached somewhere else, that would leave Jack Hartman as the only successful KSU coach to not leave for a "better" job, which will feed the ridiculous inferiortity complex held by many KSU fans and administration, which could lead to a desperate string of Dana Altman/Jimmy Wooldridge type hires.
you're prob right. But that's what I find childish. Why does everyone have this rediculous inferiority complex? Why can't people just move on without always attempting to read between the lines to find an alternative cause to an action. The man left. he couldn't do it here anymore. For whatever the reason, it wasn't happening and it was killing him. He knew it, He loved the program too much to be responsible for it so he hung it up. If he does go somewhere else I believe it will be out of boredom alone.
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The only thing I can think is the people that would feel betrayed are the same ones that feel we were better off with him and a @#%$ty staff rather than anyone else. They were the ones that felt the past two years were not his fault and wanted him to continue coaching; but they knew the reason he couldn't is because he just didn't have the energy for it anymore. If he goes somewhere else, then he must have had the energy and could have continued here but he left for some reason; didn’t like it anymore, betrayed, whatever the case he left because he didn't want to be there anymore. I imagine that the people that would feel betrayed are selfish and are the types to end an unsuccessful relationship with a baseball bat through the windshield. My advice, stop rubbing your vagina, get a cream for it or whatever you have to do... just stop complaining, it's irritating it. Just be happy that someone you once loved, or possibly still do, can have an attempt at happiness again... Even if you're no longer in the picture of that new life.
He gave us so much and all we have to return is to be happy for him in whatever he decides to do from here; Or you can be a bitter little bitch; throw a baseball bat through his windshield and steal some autographed memorabilia while you're at it; and go on believing that he is an evil person because the 17 years he gave you was all a lie.
It really just seems childish.
Ok.....
1. I'm not Chris Boggas
2. You want to talk childish.....You're the one that sounds like you're 12 and
3. Why is it that everybody think it's ok that Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno are still coaching? It's because nobody should have the right to tell a coaching legend when it's time to go. If Bill Snyder comes back to coach that tells me that he wasn't as ready to leave as he said he was and somebody higher up needs to be held responsible for that.
Thank You and Goodnight!
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The only thing I can think is the people that would feel betrayed are the same ones that feel we were better off with him and a @#%$ty staff rather than anyone else. They were the ones that felt the past two years were not his fault and wanted him to continue coaching; but they knew the reason he couldn't is because he just didn't have the energy for it anymore. If he goes somewhere else, then he must have had the energy and could have continued here but he left for some reason; didn’t like it anymore, betrayed, whatever the case he left because he didn't want to be there anymore. I imagine that the people that would feel betrayed are selfish and are the types to end an unsuccessful relationship with a baseball bat through the windshield. My advice, stop rubbing your vagina, get a cream for it or whatever you have to do... just stop complaining, it's irritating it. Just be happy that someone you once loved, or possibly still do, can have an attempt at happiness again... Even if you're no longer in the picture of that new life.
He gave us so much and all we have to return is to be happy for him in whatever he decides to do from here; Or you can be a bitter little bitch; throw a baseball bat through his windshield and steal some autographed memorabilia while you're at it; and go on believing that he is an evil person because the 17 years he gave you was all a lie.
It really just seems childish.
Ok.....
1. I'm not Chris Boggas
2. You want to talk childish.....You're the one that sounds like you're 12 and
3. Why is it that everybody think it's ok that Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno are still coaching? It's because nobody should have the right to tell a coaching legend when it's time to go. If Bill Snyder comes back to coach that tells me that he wasn't as ready to leave as he said he was and somebody higher up needs to be held responsible for that.
Thank You and Goodnight!
did anyone tell michael jordan to retire? people retire all the time and then get bored and want to come back or realize how much they miss doing what they loved to do. if snyder returns to coaching it does not mean that he was forced out.
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I'm sure there are universities around the country that are willing to hire a 95 year old coach who acomplished SO much at the twilight of his career despite loading the schedules with the likes of Fla Int., Western Kentucky, UMass, McNeese State and playing in a watered down Big XII north......That sounds like the makings of a national championship!!!
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The only thing I can say is that I wish I loved to do something that much that could also earn me that much money. All of my hobbies cost me money. wah wah :katpak:
It would be Huggygroupies all over again if he goes to a school outside the Big 12.
As far as I'm concerned, we're in the RP era and now we compete for championships. Roy proved all he had to do was leave the state and go to NC and boom championship, so maybe Kansas is like Championship Kryptonite.
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Ok.....
1. I'm not Chris Boggas
2. You want to talk childish.....You're the one that sounds like you're 12 and
3. Why is it that everybody think it's ok that Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno are still coaching? It's because nobody should have the right to tell a coaching legend when it's time to go. If Bill Snyder comes back to coach that tells me that he wasn't as ready to leave as he said he was and somebody higher up needs to be held responsible for that.
Thank You and Goodnight!
1. Can you defend the thought process?
2. I haven't seen one confirmed statement saying that Coach Snyder was pushed out.
3. Learn how to use the quote function. :popcorn:
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I'm sure there are universities around the country that are willing to hire a 95 year old coach who acomplished SO much at the twilight of his career despite loading the schedules with the likes of Fla Int., Western Kentucky, UMass, McNeese State and playing in a watered down Big XII north......That sounds like the makings of a national championship!!!
Go root for the Cowboys or Michigan or the Yankees, jerkoff. :bitchslap:
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I'm sure there are universities around the country that are willing to hire a 95 year old coach who acomplished SO much at the twilight of his career despite loading the schedules with the likes of Fla Int., Western Kentucky, UMass, McNeese State and playing in a watered down Big XII north......That sounds like the makings of a national championship!!!
Check PM's, RRB.
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Check PM's, RRB.
ahhh... but now I'm curious!
:chirp:
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I'm sure there are universities around the country that are willing to hire a 95 year old coach who acomplished SO much at the twilight of his career despite loading the schedules with the likes of Fla Int., Western Kentucky, UMass, McNeese State and playing in a watered down Big XII north......That sounds like the makings of a national championship!!!
Go root for the Cowboys or Michigan or the Yankees, jerkoff. :bitchslap:
Im not discrediting what he did for the KSU program, but it is obvious that the "game has passed him by".......If he does, it has Bobby Bowden written all over it
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I'll support Coach if he decides to do a Lombardi. I hope he stays out of the Big 12 (sure that won't be a problem), it would be interesting to see how he'd do at Iowa or North Carolina. NC might be a bit of a rebuilding job though, don't know if he wants that again. I don't think he'd fit well at Miami. I think he'll probably end up a MAC-type school or something in the end.
I'd still be a K-Stater first no doubt, but I'd have a bit of snart/jarr in me as well.
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I'll support Coach if he decides to do a Lombardi. I hope he stays out of the Big 12 (sure that won't be a problem), it would be interesting to see how he'd do at Iowa or North Carolina. NC might be a bit of a rebuilding job though, don't know if he wants that again. I don't think he'd fit well at Miami. I think he'll probably end up a MAC-type school or something in the end.
I'd still be a K-Stater first no doubt, but I'd have a bit of snart/jarr in me as well.
I would think smaller than that... I was thinking more along the lines of Emporia or washburn.... Or if WSU got a team again. Not really a job... just a time filler.
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i don't think snyder would take a job smaller than one at a bcs school.
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If he went to Pittsburgh or Central Missouri, he could still play in Arrowhead once a year.
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If he does take a job at a BCS school he would quickly remember why he retired and prob go through 2 years or so before he retired again.
But I just have a feeling that people are making this into a bigger issue than it is. I believe he's just bored and if he is considering returning it's just a stupid pipe dream that his family could talk him out of if they wanted. I won't be surprised by whatever happens... I will however be surprised if he stays somewhere else longer than 5 years.
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If Bill goes to coach somewhere else and has success, while at the same time Prince does not that will essentially paint the picture to everyone that you can only win at KSU if your name is Bill Snyder. Whether ot not that's fair or whether or not that's true won't matter, that will be the perception/reality.
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Bishop says if he comes back, he should come back to KSU.
www.810whb.com
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If Bill goes to coach somewhere else and has success, while at the same time Prince does not that will essentially paint the picture to everyone that you can only win at KSU if your name is Bill Snyder. Whether ot not that's fair or whether or not that's true won't matter, that will be the perception/reality.
On the other hand, if he goes somewhere and faceplants, it can only look god for KSU.
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DISTRACTIONS. COMPARISIONS. IT WOULD BE HELL FOR PRINCE N CO.
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Bishop said he plans to coach the Wildcats when he retires from the Arena league.
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Did anyone tell Michael Jordan to retire?
I'm glad you brought up Jordan. He ruined his legacy when he went to the Wizards. I'm not saying all of the positive things he did with the Bulls didn't happen but I'd rather remember Jordan for that jumper against Utah then I would in a Wizards uniform.
I'd rather remember Coach Snyder for going off the field on the shoulders of his players then I would any other way.
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Then remember him for that. It's your choice to do that no matter what he does from now on.
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Pretty sure I saw Wichita Mayor Carlos Mayans and Snyder together outside the WSU admin building yesterday. Things that make go hmmmm....
8)
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Coach Snyder would be the first coach in the world to first revive a football program that was figuratively dead followed by one that was literally dead. :tongue:
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It would be interesting to see how he'd do at Iowa or North Carolina.
His name isn't on the North Carolina list according to Ivan Maisel. Here are the names he listed:
Butch Davis
Rich Rodriguez
Tom O'Brien
Norm Chow
Jimbo Fisher
Gene Chizik
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Why the hell would Rich Rodriguez leave W. Virginia for N. Carolina?
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Why the hell would Rich Rodriguez leave W. Virginia for N. Carolina?
I was thinking the same thing. I also don't know why Tom O'Brien would leave for a worse program that's in his own freaking league.
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Conclusion:
Maisel is a tool.
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I can't believe I missed the most obvious name of all.....
Steve Mariucci
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