KSUFans Archives
Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ksu_FAN on October 30, 2006, 08:55:26 AM
-
The Cats went back to this play as a staple last saturday, and for the most part it worked well. James Johnson showed some nice patience with it and unlike Patton he can break an arm tackle which means we rarely lost yardage even when the defense blew the play up.
The good: though we didn't have a ton of big plays with it, the stretch/outside zone was used to set up much of what we had success on with our boot passes and Johnson's cutback leading to a 32 yard score. We are able to get the edge once which led to a nice gain, but other than that we were mostly held to 5 yards or less. However, it was used to set up a lot of other things for us with ISU overpursuing often.
The bad: Too often ISU's front 7 blew up the play. Mostly the problem was a DT putting our OG or OT 3 or 4 yards deep in the backfield and forcing our RB to cut earlier than he'd like. The Oline must at least maintain the LOS on this play if not get a push, but its not like we need to drive people 6 yards off the ball. We did a solid job getting to LBs and sealing the backside, but penetration by their DTs hurt us when the play didn't work. However, like I said before, Johnson was good at getting back to the LOS if not gaining a couple yards even when ISU defended the play well.
In addition we did a nice job mixing in some traps and power lead schemes as well as the short passing game to our wide-outs. Even though many considered the offensive gameplan pretty conservative, I thought it was by far our coach's best job of mixing things up, but yet being persistent. Those 1 and 2 yard gains on stretch plays may be frustrating, but what it was used to set up definately paid off down the stretch. Good to see some offensive continuity and look forward to seeing how we do on the road in Boulder.
On another note, the bowl picture is getting clearer. Even with a win in Boulder, its looking like our game in Lawrence could be for a bowl birth. Its looking like the south will get 5 teams bowl elgible (Baylor on the outside, especially with Bell going down) and the north 3 or 4. If ku can get another win before they play us (then they could be the 4th) and we win in Boulder, our game would feature a 5-5 ku vs a 6-5 K-State (assuming a loss to UT). A loss there and we are 6-6 while they are 6-5 with a likely loss coming in Columbia. I have a feeling the bowl folks might use our game as the deciding factor as to who goes bowling. This just makes getting that win in Boulder all the more important as well, should be interesting to watch.
-
I'm going to put myself in a bowl committeeman's shoes.
Would I rather:
Have 8,000 fans come from a school to a game (ku)
or
Have 25,000 fans come from a school to a game (KSU)
I'm having a tough choice here. HELP!
-
The bad: Too often ISU's front 7 blew up the play. Mostly the problem was a DT putting our OG or OT 3 or 4 yards deep in the backfield and forcing our RB to cut earlier than he'd like.
This is what makes clamoring for the option so laughable.
I would think a bowl would pick us over ku due to fan support, as Jeffy alluded to. Especially a bowl like the Texas Bowl.
Nice post.
-
I was thinking about that as well, but its not like we haven't been shafted by the bowls before. Plus, I think it'll be a projection of more like 15K this time around for a 6-6 team coming off a loss to ku (should that happen of course).
-
I was thinking about that as well, but its not like we haven't been shafted by the bowls before. Plus, I think it'll be a projection of more like 15K this time around for a 6-6 team coming off a loss to ku (should that happen of course).
Yeah, but we usually get shafted by schools like Michigan or Texas.
-
I was thinking about that as well, but its not like we haven't been shafted by the bowls before. Plus, I think it'll be a projection of more like 15K this time around for a 6-6 team coming off a loss to ku (should that happen of course).
Getting shafted in lesser bowls is much less likely. They want people in the seats in a huge way. There is also the fact that KSU hasn't been to a bowl in a few years now. The fans are hungry for their Christmastime bowl trip. If I recall, there were 19,000 kstate fans for the insight.com bowl. There is no reason to believe we won't have that again at a bowl this year.
-
Great points. I'd just like to win the game and make the decision easy on whatever bowl commitee is lookiing at the Cats.
-
Plus the fact we've played a MUCH tougher schedule.
-
James Johnson showed some nice patience with it and unlike Patton he can break an arm tackle which means we rarely lost yardage even when the defense blew the play up.
Ummmm ya, you might want to go back and watch some film. Patton doesn't have a problem with arm tackles, Johnson however was arm tacked and it kept him from the endzone. Both are great backs but I still think that Patton is the only one with the ability to break the big one.
-
James Johnson showed some nice patience with it and unlike Patton he can break an arm tackle which means we rarely lost yardage even when the defense blew the play up.
Ummmm ya, you might want to go back and watch some film. Patton doesn't have a problem with arm tackles, Johnson however was arm tacked and it kept him from the endzone. Both are great backs but I still think that Patton is the only one with the ability to break the big one.
For all practical purposes, I'd consider 30+ yard runs "big ones".
-
My impression is that Patton is much quicker with more speed and I agree has more ability as a gamebreaker. Johnson seems slightly stronger and a bit more patient. I could be wrong on that.
-
i don't know the finances of crap bowls very well.
it would make sense that smaller bowls are more dependent on travelling fans for ticket sales, and less dependent on tv ratings and local fans.
-
I personally have it from John Junker on the Fiesta Bowl Committee that the Insight Bowl has dibs on us if we get 6 wins. They LOVE KSU.
-
awesome news pinche.
i'm looking to reserve flights to arizona as soon as we down cu.