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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: yoman on November 15, 2009, 04:23:38 PM
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I mean we all know that he sucked two nights ago, but as far as i can tell he hasn't been in at all in this game. wtf?
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and now he comes in...
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Obviously still needs to earn his minutes
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JRH, Samuels, and Kelly are all exceeding my expectations. Could be one reason.
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You have to have your best players on the floor. Right now, Judge doesn't fit into that category. Henriq, Kelly, and Samuels do.
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
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Needs to learn to play defense. He made three defensive lapses in like 30 seconds in the second half and got pulled.
He'll learn. And we'll need his offensive production inside. I can see Kelly struggling against teams with length inside.
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
McGrudsey is better? (at least on offense)
Really, McGruder and Sutton are like the inverses of each other.
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Judge has got an attitude. I think that's part of the reason why Martin is reluctant to put him in. Also, like Sys said, Kelly & Samuels are much better right now.
How about Jordan though? What a great surprise!! :love: :woohoo:
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
sutton sucks. terribly sucks. wish he would have left and freddy stayed.
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I think Jamar and Kelly are better, but I believe the man getting left out is Dom. Not sure why he is in Frank's dog house, Frank alluded to attitude/effort so we'll find out now going forward but I think there will definitely be minutes with something like this:
denis
jake
jam-sam
C-Kell
walle
quezbert is going to need to be spelled a LOT more once he actually has to bang (which will also be a rude awakening)
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judge has beaz's O potential from within 15 ft (has great hands and shot), but lacks on D.
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yeah, Walle looks lost on defense still. I still see him adjusting on offense, but the flashes of greatness are already there.
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
McGrudsey is better? (at least on offense)
Really, McGruder and Sutton are like the inverses of each other.
I think Sutton's Defense may have become overrated on this board. Is he significantly better than his competition at the 3? Maybe. Is he better enough to make up for his continued inability to contribute offensively? Unclear trending no.
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
McGrudsey is better? (at least on offense)
Really, McGruder and Sutton are like the inverses of each other.
I think Sutton's Defense may have become overrated on this board. Is he significantly better than his competition at the 3? Maybe. Is he better enough to make up for his continued inability to contribute offensively? Unclear trending no.
He never does anything on offense, because he stands out at the 3 point line, where he is inept to do anything even mistaken for decent basketball.
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judge has beaz's O potential from within 15 ft (has great hands and shot), but lacks on D.
No he doesn't.
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judge has beaz's O potential from within 15 ft (has great hands and shot), but lacks on D.
No he doesn't.
hemmy, you missed an excellent oppy for this:
:powertard:
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damn :frown:
Don't think I have ever pulled one of those out in perfect form.
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How about Jordan though? What a great surprise!! :love: :woohoo:
It's amazing how much better he is than previous 7 footers Bennett and Joe Leonard.
He won't normally play this much, but it's nice to see him stay on the floor for extended periods without getting into immediate foul trouble.
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whats up with Judge not playing?
Judge ordered to extended stay on bench.
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whats up with Judge not playing?
Judge ordered to extended stay on bench.
:lol: :lol:
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How about Jordan though? What a great surprise!! :love: :woohoo:
It's amazing how much better he is than previous 7 footers Bennett and Joe Leonard.
He won't normally play this much, but it's nice to see him stay on the floor for extended periods without getting into immediate foul trouble.
I keep thinking he doesn't look like a 7 footer, but maybe that's because all the other 7 footers we had we surrounded by 6-5 power fowards.
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whats up with Judge not playing?
Judge ordered to extended stay on bench.
Top Shelf!
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judge has beaz's O potential from within 15 ft (has great hands and shot), but lacks on D.
LOLs. What? Are you kidding? How in the hell could you possibly make that claim at this point? :rolleyes:
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Judge should eventually beat out Kelly for PT. Kelly's lack of ability to grab any kind of defensive rebound paired with his inability to pass out of the post will turn into an issue once he faces a competent big. The other spot should be taken by colon, quezbert, and a few minutes from jamsam (Since Jamsam is going to spend the majority of his minutes at the 3 because Dom is an fp).
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judge not playing because kelly and samuels are better. more interested in why sutton didn't play.
McGrudsey is better? (at least on offense)
Really, McGruder and Sutton are like the inverses of each other.
Sutton didn't play a single minute, did he? I assume he's either hurt or sick. No reason at all he would be the only player to not leave the bench. On that note, what happened to Werner? Seems like he'd get at least a couple of minutes in the 3 very well secured victories' waning moments.
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Sutton didn't play a single minute, did he? I assume he's either hurt or sick. No reason at all he would be the only player to not leave the bench. On that note, what happened to Werner? Seems like he'd get at least a couple of minutes in the 3 very well secured victories' waning moments.
werner is injured.
sutton is healthy. he started and played 7 minutes. didn't play in the 2nd half.
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How about Jordan though? What a great surprise!! :love: :woohoo:
It's amazing how much better he is than previous 7 footers Bennett and Joe Leonard.
He won't normally play this much, but it's nice to see him stay on the floor for extended periods without getting into immediate foul trouble.
Dude's averaging 20 minutes a game, having played 17, 17, and 27 minutes. I figure most of the post guys will be playing right around that amount the majority of games. Plus, the guy is a freshman, so you would expect him to improve as the season progresses, which could very well lead to greater minutes.
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Judge should eventually beat out Kelly for PT. Kelly's lack of ability to grab any kind of defensive rebound paired with his inability to pass out of the post will turn into an issue once he faces a competent big. The other spot should be taken by colon, quezbert, and a few minutes from jamsam (Since Jamsam is going to spend the majority of his minutes at the 3 because Dom is an fp).
God bless you for spreading quezbert, but I am more worried about Walle/quezbert getting manhandled/in foul troubs from a competent big than I am about Kelly's lack of D. He will make the big work on the other end and if Frank can teach him to stay ball strong and not drop his freaking hands he will get bigs in foul troubs. The nice thing is we will constantly be rotating these guys, the problem is finding a rotation/routine/balance. Admittedly, it is a high-class problem when you think back to fff (in his role as Ksufans' Greek Chorus) fantastic pasco/siebs point of comparo.
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Sutton didn't play a single minute, did he? I assume he's either hurt or sick. No reason at all he would be the only player to not leave the bench. On that note, what happened to Werner? Seems like he'd get at least a couple of minutes in the 3 very well secured victories' waning moments.
werner is injured.
sutton is healthy. he started and played 7 minutes. didn't play in the 2nd half.
Totally missed his name at the top of the box score, and I actually didn't get to watch the first 10 minutes or so of the game time. Wonder why he would be benched for the remainder of the game? Even if a starter totally &@#%s something up, Frank will generally (eventually) put him back on the court.
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Judge should eventually beat out Kelly for PT. Kelly's lack of ability to grab any kind of defensive rebound paired with his inability to pass out of the post will turn into an issue once he faces a competent big. The other spot should be taken by colon, quezbert, and a few minutes from jamsam (Since Jamsam is going to spend the majority of his minutes at the 3 because Dom is an fp).
God bless you for spreading quezbert, but I am more worried about Walle/quezbert getting manhandled/in foul troubs from a competent big than I am about Kelly's lack of D. He will make the big work on the other end and if Frank can teach him to stay ball strong and not drop his freaking hands he will get bigs in foul troubs. The nice thing is we will constantly be rotating these guys, the problem is finding a rotation/routine/balance. Admittedly, it is a high-class problem when you think back to fff (in his role as Ksufans' Greek Chorus) fantastic pasco/siebs point of comparo.
This absolutely infuriates me. Prob because I have no idea what it means. :curse:
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Judge should eventually beat out Kelly for PT. Kelly's lack of ability to grab any kind of defensive rebound paired with his inability to pass out of the post will turn into an issue once he faces a competent big. The other spot should be taken by colon, quezbert, and a few minutes from jamsam (Since Jamsam is going to spend the majority of his minutes at the 3 because Dom is an fp).
God bless you for spreading quezbert, but I am more worried about Walle/quezbert getting manhandled/in foul troubs from a competent big than I am about Kelly's lack of D. He will make the big work on the other end and if Frank can teach him to stay ball strong and not drop his freaking hands he will get bigs in foul troubs. The nice thing is we will constantly be rotating these guys, the problem is finding a rotation/routine/balance. Admittedly, it is a high-class problem when you think back to fff (in his role as Ksufans' Greek Chorus) fantastic pasco/siebs point of comparo.
I'm not overly concerned with our big man play, just stating that once wally figures it out i think he will steal some minutes from kelly. It is an elite problem to have. Call me crazy but I actually think that having Lu back will help the development of our bigs since they will all have to up their effort. He will make our bigs work harder by being a hard worker himself. My biggest concern right now is at the 3 spot. Dominique Sutton has been in the program for too long for frank martin to bench him to send him a message. He needs to be a man and figure it out instead of doing the same crap he's been doing for the last 2 years.
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Thank god that all of our non-important players are getting injured and the important are not (Colon & Werner).
And guys, how about McGruder's lay-up where he took off from like a step and a half away from the three point line. The kid's a player. :love:
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Dom does not suck. He was just completely unneeded in that game. Get some other guys some minutes.
When ku rolls around do you want to guess who's going to guard Xavier? :thumbsup: