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Title: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: jester66 on November 12, 2009, 11:32:13 AM
http://today.ucf.edu/blog/2009/11/12/2010-football-includes-nc-state-kansas-state/
good get
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Catfanatic on November 12, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
Agreed that is a good get.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 11:57:43 AM
2 for 1?  good get.  home/home?  Not a good get.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 12, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
Sorta interesting that its a home and home.  I suppose college football has reached that point.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: jester66 on November 12, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
Sorta interesting that its a home and home.  I suppose college football has reached that point.
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Days of getting 2 for 1 are pretty well over. 
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:08:14 PM
Sorta interesting that its a home and home.  I suppose college football has reached that point.
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Days of getting 2 for 1 are pretty well over. 

get good home/homes, then.  Prince got dozens of them.  These home/homes are stupid.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: hemmy on November 12, 2009, 12:08:59 PM
Key to success is schedule sucky teams
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: mikeycat on November 12, 2009, 12:10:07 PM
I think uCF is a decent get.   Texas just played them last weekend.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:12:54 PM
Key to success is schedule sucky teams

at home.  these games on the road aren't good.

I think uCF is a decent get.   Texas just played them last weekend.

2 for 1 series.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Who did Snyder puss out on?

I seriously doubt our 2012 schedule will be:

@UCF
@Oregon
Miami
North Texas

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_schedules/kansasstate_future.htm

It would be pretty sweet if it was, though.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 12, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
Key to success is schedule sucky teams

at home.  these games on the road aren't good.

I think uCF is a decent get.   Texas just played them last weekend.

2 for 1 series.

Rusty, I get where you're coming from.  But a) do you really think we have the position to schedule that Texas does and b) did you really think Snyder would deviate from his former scheduling practices?  

I'm sure Snyder is ticked we aren't in position to do these as 2 for 1s like he was scheduling at the end of his last tenure.  But he also understands we can't schedule two 1-AAs a year either.  Its just become that much harder to schedule cheap like he did early on.  I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind.  
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Catfanatic on November 12, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
Well we aren't Texas, their stadium holds 100K+ that speaks louder than a 50K stadium. I still think it is a good series for us, we recruit Florida and it gives us a chance to show the team off in the sunshine state for potential recruits. For the same reasons we should schedule home & homes with some of the non bcs Texas schools as well.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Rick Daris on November 12, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
if we have to play an ooc road game, it should be against a crappy fbs team in a good location. ucf seems to fit the bill. great get.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: C_Manbeck on November 12, 2009, 12:27:27 PM
UCF will likely replace the trip to Oregon. Miami in all likelihood will stay on the schedule.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Copper Bowl on November 12, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
Please oh please oh please . . . .

Figure out a way to schedule a home/home with Western Kentucky.
:pray: :hope: :Rusty:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:28:03 PM
Rusty, I get where you're coming from.  But a) do you really think we have the position to schedule that Texas does and b) did you really think Snyder would deviate from his former scheduling practices? 

Then compare to ISU's 2-1's with San Jose State and Kent State.  Or Miss. St's 2-1 with Troy.  Or CU's 2-1 with Fresno.

I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: WillieWannabe on November 12, 2009, 12:30:33 PM
No more 7 wins bowl eligibility  :dancin: :dancin:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Rick Daris on November 12, 2009, 12:32:49 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

I'd probably go to chicago for a NIU trip.  It's an easy drive for me.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 12, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
Rusty, I get where you're coming from.  But a) do you really think we have the position to schedule that Texas does and b) did you really think Snyder would deviate from his former scheduling practices? 

Then compare to ISU's 2-1's with San Jose State and Kent State.  Or Miss. St's 2-1 with Troy.  Or CU's 2-1 with Fresno.

I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

I'm just thinking there has to be some incentive to do it still.  I'm sure there is some sort of splitting of the gate/cash advantage for the BCS schools in these home and home deals that they can't get in a deal with a BCS school.  Granted, you can talk TV revenue/exposure advantages as well, but I'm sure Snyder discounts those b/c there is no guarantee there, plus its likely that if you get it right you can still get these games on TV too.  
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2009, 12:36:03 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

Space Mountain Pak  :steadymobbin':
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on November 12, 2009, 12:37:01 PM
Considering the schedule we have now, absolutely schedule sucky teams home and home.  2+ BCS teams in the nonconference each year would not be good for us.

I mean, I'd prefer one home game only, or 2 for 1's, but we don't have the cash or influence to make that happen right now.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:42:12 PM


Considering the schedule we have now, absolutely schedule sucky teams home and home.  2+ BCS teams in the nonconference each year would not be good for us.

I mean, I'd prefer one home game only, or 2 for 1's, but we don't have the cash or influence to make that happen right now.

You don't have enough faith in Snyder.  He wouldn't lose to anyone.

Rusty, I get where you're coming from.  But a) do you really think we have the position to schedule that Texas does and b) did you really think Snyder would deviate from his former scheduling practices? 

Then compare to ISU's 2-1's with San Jose State and Kent State.  Or Miss. St's 2-1 with Troy.  Or CU's 2-1 with Fresno.

I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

I'm just thinking there has to be some incentive to do it still.  I'm sure there is some sort of splitting of the gate/cash advantage for the BCS schools in these home and home deals that they can't get in a deal with a BCS school.  Granted, you can talk TV revenue/exposure advantages as well, but I'm sure Snyder discounts those b/c there is no guarantee there, plus its likely that if you get it right you can still get these games on TV too. 

A September game between BCS opponents is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be telelvised (unlike @ULL).  not sure about the gate-split thing.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: 1/64th on November 12, 2009, 12:43:36 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

Space Mountain Pak  :steadymobbin':

I was just there last week and Space Mountain was shut down.   :curse: :angry:

But I could go for a Mission Space Pak or a Soarin' Pak, if you will.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2009, 12:45:08 PM
I was just there last week and Space Mountain was shut down.   :curse: :angry:

 :frown: :buh-bye:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on November 12, 2009, 12:46:19 PM
I love this new emaw'd out Rusty.  Much better than the "we suck, just accept it" model.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Rick Daris on November 12, 2009, 12:47:35 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

I'd probably go to chicago for a NIU trip.  It's an easy drive for me.

great.

maybe you and some of the michiganders could carpool and head to the big city together. then you guys could hit up nike town and shedd aquarium before your two hour drive to dekalb. i'll have to settle for getting on my bike and coasting downhill to mhk then hopping on AA jet to dallas then to orlando then basically just having the time of my life for a few days.


(http://worldstreamradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/walt-disney-world.jpg)



Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 12:53:20 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

I'd probably go to chicago for a NIU trip.  It's an easy drive for me.

great.

maybe you and some of the michiganders could carpool and head to the big city together. then you guys could hit up nike town and shedd aquarium before your two hour drive to dekalb. i'll have to settle for getting on my bike and coasting downhill to mhk then hopping on AA jet to dallas then to orlando then basically just having the time of my life for a few days.


(http://worldstreamradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/walt-disney-world.jpg)





it's only about an hour from DT Chicago.  I'll probably actually go to an elite coffee shop, and an indie music show at one of Chicago's many fine music establishments, and finish it up with a nightcap at a wine bar.  SO HAVE FUN W/ YOUR DORKY CARTOON CHARACTERS.  :lol:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 12, 2009, 12:57:20 PM
A September game between BCS opponents is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be telelvised (unlike @ULL).  not sure about the gate-split thing.

True.  I don't think Snyder thinks that way unfortunately.  (no idea why)

Now, if Snyder is willing to move the game, TV vs a CUSA team would be a good bet.  But will Snyder be willing to do one of those Thursday or even Friday night deals? 
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Rick Daris on November 12, 2009, 12:58:29 PM
I'd imagine there are some advantages financially to scheduling a non-BCS school in a home and home vs what Prince was trying to do, at least in Snyder's mind. 

I have no idea how you think there would be a financial advantage for a home-home w/ a non-BCS vs. a BCS school. 

I will admit that series like this are more common than I thought after looking.  ku has a home-home w/ Northern Illinois, and MU has a home-home w/ Wyoming in the future.

exactly. and good luck trying to look for epcot center in wyoming or universal studios in craptown dekalb. i'm pretty sure you won't find them.

I'd probably go to chicago for a NIU trip.  It's an easy drive for me.

great.

maybe you and some of the michiganders could carpool and head to the big city together. then you guys could hit up nike town and shedd aquarium before your two hour drive to dekalb. i'll have to settle for getting on my bike and coasting downhill to mhk then hopping on AA jet to dallas then to orlando then basically just having the time of my life for a few days.


(http://worldstreamradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/walt-disney-world.jpg)





it's only about an hour from DT Chicago.  I'll probably actually go to an elite coffee shop, and an indie music show at one of Chicago's many fine music establishments, and finish it up with a nightcap at a wine bar.  SO HAVE FUN W/ YOUR DORKY CARTOON CHARACTERS.  :lol:



so it would be coffee, horrible music, night cap at a wine bar with four hours worth of driving and a football game in beautiful dekalb illinois sprinkled somewhere in the middle. gotcha. have fun w/ that. the other michiganders just called me and told you that you're prob flying solo on this vaca. sorry. no need to call them. have fun w/ that though.  :lol:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: WillieWannabe on November 12, 2009, 12:59:03 PM
A September game between BCS opponents is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be telelvised (unlike @ULL).  not sure about the gate-split thing.

True.  I don't think Snyder thinks that way unfortunately.  (no idea why)

Now, if Snyder is willing to move the game, TV vs a CUSA team would be a good bet.  But will Snyder be willing to do one of those Thursday or even Friday night deals?  

Those Thursday, Friday night games throw off 2 weeks of normalcy and preparation. Snyder, the old man that he is, most likely doesn't care for changes in his routine.  :cyclist: :cyclist:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: 1/64th on November 12, 2009, 01:03:45 PM
FWIW, I would take cartoon characters any day over coffee, ghey music and wine any day of the week.  JEEZ, you sound like a fracking ku frat boy!!!!   :ku:

And you forgot about trying not to get killed by gun/2 x 4 weilding gang-bangers in Chi-town.  Orlando is nothing but sun, fun, and frivolity. 
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 01:21:09 PM
FWIW, I would take cartoon characters any day over coffee, ghey music and wine any day of the week.  JEEZ, you sound like a fracking ku frat boy!!!!   :ku:

And you forgot about trying not to get killed by gun/2 x 4 weilding gang-bangers in Chi-town.  Orlando is nothing but sun, fun, and frivolity. 

yeah, cartoons are real macho.  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Pete on November 12, 2009, 01:24:55 PM
Weak-ass non-con is for winners.

Wishing for a difficult non-con is selfish.
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: 1/64th on November 12, 2009, 01:27:29 PM
Def macho-er than coffee, indie music, and wine.  That's fo sho.  Maybe if you would have said Red Bull, rock concert and beer..... but you didn't...which is sad.....for you.

ANyway, if the debate is would we rather play in Orlando or some crap town near Chicago, then I don't think there is much to talk about.  So goodbye.   :nahnah: :nahnah: :nahnah:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2009, 01:28:55 PM
Does michigancat hate his kids?  I vote yes  :frown:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
Does michigancat hate his kids?  I vote yes  :frown:

SHEDD AQUARIUM!  MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY!  DICK!
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: 1/64th on November 12, 2009, 01:36:02 PM
Who is this "dick" you speak of?  I only know stevedave and my name is 1/64th. 

How about Sea World and Epcot, RICHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :bootyshake:

Oh yeah, I vote yes too.  It's pretty clear. 
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: Rick Daris on November 12, 2009, 01:58:23 PM
Does michigancat hate his kids?  I vote yes  :frown:

SHEDD AQUARIUM!  MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY!  DICK!

hey dad-can we go to disney world and epcot and sea world and universal studios and ride roller coasters and swim in wave pools? huh, dad? can we, huh, huh?

sorry, but the answer is no. i'm gonna go drive in my car a bunch and then drink coffee and watch bad music. peace.

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: UCF fills out the schedule
Post by: The Nasti on November 12, 2009, 02:25:50 PM
A September game between BCS opponents is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be telelvised (unlike @ULL).  not sure about the gate-split thing.

True.  I don't think Snyder thinks that way unfortunately.  (no idea why)

Now, if Snyder is willing to move the game, TV vs a CUSA team would be a good bet.  But will Snyder be willing to do one of those Thursday or even Friday night deals?  

Those Thursday, Friday night games throw off 2 weeks of normalcy and preparation. Snyder, the old man that he is, most likely doesn't care for changes in his routine.  :cyclist: :cyclist:

One (maybe the one) thing Prince got right was playing a non-conf on a Thurs/Fri (cannot recall what day of the week the L'ville game was). Gets us more exposure than a TV game on a Saturday. No one (save for Cats fans, Freddy Asprilla, and Daunte Culpepper) is really going to watch KSU@UCF on a Saturday afternoon with the other options on TV. If it is national TV (ESPN) on a weeknight, we will get maximum exposure. And the nice thing w/ Snyder's return is that we likely would not embarrass ourselves.

If we have to go home/home now, do it in a state w/ loads of high school talent...