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Title: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 29, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
Anyone take note of this? It's no secret; the secret to beating OU is screen passes. You've gotta think sn'yd's has laid off the screen passes lately just to screw with venzy.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: hemmy on October 29, 2009, 11:14:15 AM
we ran at least 1 vs cu
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 29, 2009, 11:15:02 AM
we ran at least 1 vs cu


oh. well, disregard my previous post. really thought i was on to something.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Pett on October 29, 2009, 11:17:53 AM
we ran at least 1 vs cu

Yep, to Brandon. But if that one play wouldn't of been called you would've been on to something fatty...
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 29, 2009, 11:18:37 AM
Again, sorry guys. I just really want to beat Oklahoma sooner.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 11:22:23 AM
Multiple screen passes and shovel passes will be used this weekend.  We haven't seen the Wildcat used much lately either -- expect more.

Snyder will pull all tricks out of all bags this weekend -- special team trickery included.

He hates OU (Venzy) and will do everything possible to embarrass them.

I heard that Stoops routinely sends flowers to funeral homes in the Manhattan area in remembrance of Bill Snyder.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: EllToPay on October 29, 2009, 11:23:41 AM
we ran at least 1 vs cu

Yep, to Brandon. But if that one play wouldn't of been called you would've been on to something fatty...

i absolutely loved the fake screen, turn around and hand off to banks. :love:

also, fats, are you talking about screens to DT? must do this often.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Pett on October 29, 2009, 11:25:56 AM
i absolutely loved the fake screen, turn around and hand off to banks. :love:

OMG, YES!! Perfectly executed too (great spin by Grant), surprised that this didn't go for more yards to be honest...
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: kcchiefdav on October 29, 2009, 11:30:19 AM
I think Snyd's has been using less screen passes the last 2 games to make the Sooners think that we're trying to hid those screen passes from them. But actually, the screen pass is just a red herring. Actually, we'll be setting up fake screen passes to throw it to Lamark deep. Look for Lamark to have 200 yards receiving this week if we're gonna win this one.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: mavrick1821 on October 29, 2009, 11:36:13 AM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: cireksu on October 29, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
We have not seen many slip screens and I'd love to see DT line up wide against a corner 1 on 1.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.

Hook and Ladder -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Double Reverse -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Fumble Recovery -- Gregory mishandles snap, Lamark boots it, DT falls on it.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on October 29, 2009, 11:47:06 AM
We tried special teams trickery last time we were down there and it didn't work out so well.  :scared:
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: kougar24 on October 29, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.

You really think that Snyder has already marked this one as a loss?

I don't (and wouldn't want to support any collegiate team that did).
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: cireksu on October 29, 2009, 12:05:39 PM
Showing something against a team isn't all bad.  It makes future opponents spend time working on it.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: ew2x4 on October 29, 2009, 12:22:08 PM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.

You really think that Snyder has already marked this one as a loss?

I don't (and wouldn't want to support any collegiate team that did).


lmao.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: kcchiefdav on October 29, 2009, 12:24:46 PM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.

You really think that Snyder has already marked this one as a loss?

I don't (and wouldn't want to support any collegiate team that did).


Well, I don't think/hope that he's ignoring this game all together, however, I hope he's got the D-Line getting ready for Reesing.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 12:27:07 PM
Fan/Team morale in Lincoln last Saturday X 3 = Fan/Team morale in Norman this Saturday.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 29, 2009, 12:27:43 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CO-gOtNBzAM/RqFAV8lPouI/AAAAAAAABiM/4GBbZIMEPqY/s400/Ice+Cream+Cone.jpg)

Our Offense this year.

I wouldn't be suprised if we didn't see much if anything else different this whole year. Snyder has said publically that we dont have a whole lot of talent on this squad and why try to do plays that require a bunch of talent? Just askin'
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: The Nasti on October 29, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
Deep down I think Snyder would get the most personal satisfaction by beating OU, rather than any other team, so we will probably see something new on offense. The question is whether it will actually work...

I agree that the O is too vanilla to do anything too special though. Thinking we have more plays in our bag of tricks yet to be shown (that would actually work) assumes you have to think guys like Snipes are quality Big XII receivers...

 
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: berford on October 29, 2009, 01:33:15 PM
I predict we'll see the guards pull a lot of the time Saturday; we'll see a lot of misdirection; the fullback will carry the ball several times and see a few passes thrown his way; we'll see some screen passes; and a shuttle pass or two. Oklahoma is a speed team and Bill knows the way to counter speed - misdirection - get them to overrun plays. That'll slow 'em down and make 'em start guessing, instead of reading their keys. Then he's got 'em. Can't wait 'til Saturday night!

 :ksu:
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.

You really think that Snyder has already marked this one as a loss?

I don't (and wouldn't want to support any collegiate team that did).


pfffttt
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: SoonerKS on October 29, 2009, 01:41:31 PM
Anyone take note of this? It's no secret; the secret to beating OU is screen passes. You've gotta think sn'yd's has laid off the screen passes lately just to screw with venzy.

How did screens and shovel passes work for ku?

No, the secret to beating OU's offense is throwing to guys in the middle of the field when Ryan Reynolds (middle linebacker) is in the game.  That has been the weakness for the past couple of years.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 01:51:56 PM
I'm just sayin' I have a hard time believing that Coach Snyder is sitting in his office this afternoon accepting this weekend as a loss.

He's game-planning with inferior talent, but working on schemes that put us in the best position to compete, and with any luck, to win.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: cireksu on October 29, 2009, 02:01:41 PM
I don't think that we're going to see anything different.  Going to be we do what we do kind of games, it's either good enough or it's not.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 29, 2009, 02:02:28 PM
Anyone take note of this? It's no secret; the secret to beating OU is screen passes. You've gotta think sn'yd's has laid off the screen passes lately just to screw with venzy.

How did screens and shovel passes work for ku?

No, the secret to beating OU's offense is throwing to guys in the middle of the field when Ryan Reynolds (middle linebacker) is in the game.  That has been the weakness for the past couple of years.

Remember the 03 OU team the "Best in the History of NCAA" per the talking heads of the media? Yeah, pretty sure OBz SCHOOLED that defense by using their speed to their disadvantage. This yrs defense is pretty fast too, watch out for the overpersuing.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: nicname on October 29, 2009, 02:22:23 PM
Expect quick hits to the TE, Middle Screens, and misdirection.  Also, PA deep balls(to Lamark not BB). 
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Maccat on October 29, 2009, 02:36:22 PM
Expect quick hits to the TE, Middle Screens, and misdirection.  Also, PA deep balls(to Lamark not BB). 

dont know if the O-line can give GG time to PA and bomb to lamark or BB
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: mjrod on October 29, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.

Hook and Ladder -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Double Reverse -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Fumble Recovery -- Gregory mishandles snap, Lamark boots it, DT falls on it.


It's called "Hook and Lateral".

Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2009, 02:42:01 PM
The difference between us and ku is that we give a defense more looks . . . ku always has sparkles back in the gun, no I formation to speak of, frankly it was just a crap gameplan by ku against ou, just like it usually always is everytime Mangino faces a team with superior athletes across the board . . .  I see OB rolling back the clock and even running a few veer look plays on the Sooners.

Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 02:43:10 PM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.

Hook and Ladder -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Double Reverse -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Fumble Recovery -- Gregory mishandles snap, Lamark boots it, DT falls on it.


Say Lateral with your mouthpiece in.

http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_hookandladde.htm (http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_hookandladde.htm)

It's called "Hook and Lateral".


Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: mjrod on October 29, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.

Hook and Ladder -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Double Reverse -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Fumble Recovery -- Gregory mishandles snap, Lamark boots it, DT falls on it.


Say Lateral with your mouthpiece in.

http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_hookandladde.htm (http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_hookandladde.htm)

It's called "Hook and Lateral".



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_and_lateral

Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: Ameroogie on October 29, 2009, 03:11:52 PM
So we're both right.....I'll buy that.

Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: kougar24 on October 29, 2009, 03:34:32 PM
I don't think Snyds will pull out "tricks" against OU at all. He knows we're going to get our asses handed to us. He'll save his special plays for ku/MU/NU.

You really think that Snyder has already marked this one as a loss?


Yes. Because OB isn't retarded.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: nicname on October 29, 2009, 03:37:02 PM
Expect quick hits to the TE, Middle Screens, and misdirection.  Also, PA deep balls(to Lamark not BB). 

dont know if the O-line can give GG time to PA and bomb to lamark or BB

If we can bootleg a rollout to the deep man's side, it can happen.  OU however has DE's that are great at keeping the QB in the pocket.  Still, I think we have to stretch the field once in a while to have a chance.  Most likely in 2nd and short situations(if we can get them.)  

I woudln't count out a pass from DT if it his non throwing shoulder that is injured.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: CerpinTaxt on October 29, 2009, 05:57:16 PM
The sad thing is that Lamark is very capable of that kind of performance.  The flip side is that his is also likely to not do jack.  If we could figure out how to utilize him in the parallel way that we do the D. Train.  Our offense would be another level of improved.

Hook and Ladder -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Double Reverse -- Gregory to Lamark to DT.
Fumble Recovery -- Gregory mishandles snap, Lamark boots it, DT falls on it.


It's called "Hook and Lateral".


lmao
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: SoonerKS on October 29, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
Anyone take note of this? It's no secret; the secret to beating OU is screen passes. You've gotta think sn'yd's has laid off the screen passes lately just to screw with venzy.

How did screens and shovel passes work for ku?

No, the secret to beating OU's offense is throwing to guys in the middle of the field when Ryan Reynolds (middle linebacker) is in the game.  That has been the weakness for the past couple of years.

Remember the 03 OU team the "Best in the History of NCAA" per the talking heads of the media? Yeah, pretty sure OBz SCHOOLED that defense by using their speed to their disadvantage. This yrs defense is pretty fast too, watch out for the overpersuing.

Last I checked, the OU players on the 2003 team graduated and Sproles is in the NFL.
Title: Re: When was our last "screen pass" play?
Post by: kcchiefdav on October 29, 2009, 09:44:44 PM
Anyone take note of this? It's no secret; the secret to beating OU is screen passes. You've gotta think sn'yd's has laid off the screen passes lately just to screw with venzy.

How did screens and shovel passes work for ku?

No, the secret to beating OU's offense is throwing to guys in the middle of the field when Ryan Reynolds (middle linebacker) is in the game.  That has been the weakness for the past couple of years.

Remember the 03 OU team the "Best in the History of NCAA" per the talking heads of the media? Yeah, pretty sure OBz SCHOOLED that defense by using their speed to their disadvantage. This yrs defense is pretty fast too, watch out for the overpersuing.

Last I checked, the OU players on the 2003 team graduated and Sproles is in the NFL.

I actually agree with the Sooner here. Comparing this team to the 2003 team is an insult to our good teams of the past.