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Title: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2009, 03:42:07 PM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: WavetheWheat on October 14, 2009, 03:59:23 PM
V-A-N-I-L-L-A .....how many times do people have to tell you this?

Snyder is waiting to bust out the real offense until the important games.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: EllToPay on October 14, 2009, 04:03:39 PM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:

i stopped after reading this.

surely, you can't be serious?
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: ew2x4 on October 14, 2009, 04:10:38 PM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:

i stopped after reading this.

surely, you can't be serious?

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: GP76 on October 14, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
Sonof,
You have got a good imagination.  Use it for something constructive instead of always trying to beat down the cats.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
Well how the frank would we ever know if he's an AA TE . . . he never touches the ball.

Don't allow your hate of Prince recruited players to get in the way of your thinking.

He was an Academic AA and you don"t get to be an academic AA without some playing credentials.



Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: LesMiserables on October 14, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
In support of dax, Mastrud was ranked number 12 among "draft eligible" TE's by Phil Steele.  That's sort of "potential AA", I guess.  Of course, that list also leaves out some hotshot underclassmen like the guys at ND and Georgia. 
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2009, 05:02:14 PM
In support of dax, Mastrud was ranked number 12 among "draft eligible" TE's by Phil Steele.  That's sort of "potential AA", I guess.  Of course, that list also leaves out some hotshot underclassmen like the guys at ND and Georgia. 

See, see . . . told you guys. 

Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 14, 2009, 05:31:49 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2009, 05:48:57 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 14, 2009, 06:56:57 PM
With our Oline, someone has to stay and help protect.  Unfortunately Mastrud is finding that out.  Seems like the pretty traditional 15-20 catch Snyder TE, but maybe less catches b/c he has to protect more.  Snyder put several TEs in the league under the same plan.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Skydog on October 14, 2009, 06:57:26 PM
Remember vz. UMASS when Carson would throw only to a triple covered Mastrud? At least that's not the scenario anymore.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Bookcat on October 14, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
I don't care how potentially good Mastrud is. He's one of our better pass catchers...and we never throw his way.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: catzacker on October 14, 2009, 07:57:14 PM
guys, this is bill snyder, he'll adapt the offense to fit his personnel.  don't worry.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on October 14, 2009, 08:08:33 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 

pwned
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Brewcrew on October 14, 2009, 08:20:21 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: opcat on October 14, 2009, 08:31:43 PM
call his show and ask him. jesus.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Big Sam on October 14, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:

Uh, dude, if Carson Coffman is the QB Mastrud is about the only dude that ever gets a pass thrown his way.  I'm sure every defense knows it, hence the quadruple coverage that CC tries to fit the late pass in through.

Sam S.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2009, 10:11:57 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"


In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

You are an incredible dumbass.



Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: 85catbacker on October 14, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 
basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"
In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

Okay for fun, lets do some projections here.  ku gave up 56.5% more points and 38% more yards to ISU than KSU.  Applying that increase to what KSU gave up to TT, TT will score 103 points on 1,019 total yards against ku.  Likewise, ku scored 70.8% more points and gained 53% more yards against ISU than KSU.  That means ku will score 24 points on 435 yards of total offense against TT.  Factor in that KSU/ISU was a neutral field while ku played ISU at home, and they spread should be greater.

Wow. Isn't it fun to play with numbers.    :lol: :dancin:  :beerchug: :piratecaptain: 
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: GP76 on October 15, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
Secret memo to all QB's from the clueless idiot coach Bill Snyder:::
"Do not throw to the tight end unless triple covered"
All QB's read and aknowledge by game time each Saturday.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Guscat on October 15, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"


In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

You are an incredible dumbass.





AND they did it to ku at home on Embezzler Field in Ghetto Stadium.  As I recall, the vaunted hawks get their chance to own Tech at home in a few weeks.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: OLD BALLZ on October 15, 2009, 02:44:59 PM
Well how the frank would we ever know if he's an AA TE . . . he never touches the ball.

Don't allow your hate of Prince recruited players to get in the way of your thinking.

He was an Academic AA and you don"t get to be an academic AA without some playing credentials.





He's only an "ACADEMIC" AA because he's a marketing major.  I mean come on marketing?  Not the toughest major out there. 
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 15, 2009, 04:11:26 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"


In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

You are an incredible dumbass.










Two different games.  K-State tried to play small ball and control the clock.  Iowa State was also without Alexander Robinson for pretty much the entire game.  That being said, do you really believe that K-State's defense is better than ku's?


 :confused:
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on October 15, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"


In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

You are an incredible dumbass.










Two different games.  K-State tried to play small ball and control the clock.  Iowa State was also without Alexander Robinson for pretty much the entire game.  That being said, do you really believe that K-State's defense is better than ku's?


 :confused:

I didn't know there was a team in this conference who's defense was worse than uk's  :confused:
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: wazucat on October 22, 2009, 12:04:37 AM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:

Pick on another fault defect or shortcoming for Bill to work on against CU.  Your excellent rant on the TE's worked very well against the Aggies.
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: Bookcat on October 22, 2009, 10:41:45 AM
Hey, at least the defense looked fundamentally sound against Texas Tech.

Funny, I don't recall seeing ku mentioned anywhere in this thread, and ku's last defensive effort yielded over 500 yards and 36 points to the "worst team in the conference" at home. 


basically tied for 4th in the big 12 in points given up? hows the ksuck d progressing"


In terms of progress . . . ku just gave up over 500 yards and 26 first downs to an offense that only had 371 yards and 20 first downs against K-State. 

You are an incredible dumbass.










Two different games.  K-State tried to play small ball and control the clock.  Iowa State was also without Alexander Robinson for pretty much the entire game.  That being said, do you really believe that K-State's defense is better than ku's?


 :confused:

small ball and controlling the clock might have given ku a victory over the Buffs...but since they can't run the ball........
Title: Re: I really like the "avoid the TE" scheme of OB's offense . . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2009, 11:09:15 AM
nothing like taking a potential  All-American TE and never throwing him the ball, never setting up any plays to specifically throw him the ball, and pretty much relegating him to the role of a blocker.

I guess the fact that in the attempts to throw Mastrud the ball, our fine QB corp has more often than not opted to underthrow the ball by a good 3 or 4 yards or make him have to perform some kind of circus catch. 

But again, nothing like removing one of your better offensive threats completely from the game plan.   :thumbsup:

Pick on another fault defect or shortcoming for Bill to work on against CU.  Your excellent rant on the TE's worked very well against the Aggies.

Avoiding putting the ball in Lamark Brown's hands is great.