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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: AzCat on October 22, 2006, 12:16:43 PM
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Ron Prince certainly appears to have been a bargain basement hire.
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That was sorta random.
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Ron Prince certainly appears to have been a bargain basement hire.
It wasn't a bargain basement hire, it was what I refer to as "lotto" hire. A long shot, but if you hit it, you hit it big. Ironically, if/when Ron Prince is done in a few years, the program will be at the point where we'll be forced to hire someone similar to him in terms of their football resume.
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At $750k/year he's far into bargain basement territory for a head football coach in the Big XII.
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You could be paying Manginosaurus 1.5 mil a year.
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The fatman will earn his extra $750k in his last game this year. Unfortunately for ku fans that will probably also save his job. :flush:
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I'd rather lose to Ksu to greatly increase the chance of sweet Lew finally getting his own pick for ku football head coach.
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At $750k/year he's far into bargain basement territory for a head football coach in the Big XII.
His pay coincides with his experience. My pont was about the intent of those that made the hire. I don't think they intended to go out and save money on this coaching hire. For some reason, the admin thought they could win the "football coaching hire lotto" twice, the first coming with Snyder. Prince will get his time (which I think you have to give him), but I think what we've seen what we're going to get.
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I didn't say it was KSU's intent to save money by hiring Ron Prince, I said we appear to be getting just about what we've paid for.
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Ron Prince certainly appears to have been a bargain basement hire.
It wasn't a bargain basement hire, it was what I refer to as "lotto" hire. A long shot, but if you hit it, you hit it big. Ironically, if/when Ron Prince is done in a few years, the program will be at the point where we'll be forced to hire someone similar to him in terms of their football resume.
BV has a similar resume but a lot more people would be happier if he comes here
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BV has been a member of a coaching staff that one a national title and has consistently been in the top 25, Prince was not a coach of a team like Oklahoma. BV was also a former KSU coach during the good ole years, I still don't know how good of a HC he would be though..
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BV has been a member of a coaching staff that one a national title and has consistently been in the top 25, Prince was not a coach of a team like Oklahoma. BV was also a former KSU coach during the good ole years, I still don't know how good of a HC he would be though..
BV's bridge back to KSU is kinda burnt right now, thats why he wasn't considered. People high up still pissed about him turning on KSU.
Its gonna take some work to rebuild that bridge
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
BV is our head coach we're 6-2 and talking bowl games because we wouldn't have had louisville on our schedual and would have beaten baylor
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
BV is our head coach we're 6-2 and talking bowl games because we wouldn't have had louisville on our schedual and would have beaten baylor
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
BV is our head coach we're 6-2 and talking bowl games because we wouldn't have had louisville on our schedual and would have beaten baylor
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:love: :notworthy:BV :notworthy: the guy is a good coach he taught a person who played line his entire life LB in 3 days
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
BV is our head coach we're 6-2 and talking bowl games because we wouldn't have had louisville on our schedual and would have beaten baylor
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:love: :notworthy:BV :notworthy: the guy is a good coach he taught a person who played line his entire life LB in 3 days
You're just making a supposition about what the record might be and you have no basis in fact.
Keep dreaming junior.
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i know for a fact the worst we'd be is 5-3 because BV would've schedualed a creampuff team instead of UofL
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i know for a fact the worst we'd be is 5-3 because BV would've schedualed a creampuff team instead of UofL
How do you know that?
You're just pulling crap out of your ass now.
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i know for a fact the worst we'd be is 5-3 because BV would've schedualed a creampuff team instead of UofL
(http://home.asparagine.net/jamie/jamie/bloguploads/2006/07/comicbookguy-worst-thread-ever.jpg)
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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What makes Venables resume better than Prince?
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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What makes Venables resume better than Prince?
His national championship ring?
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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What makes Venables resume better than Prince?
His national championship ring?
Nice try. Even grad assistants get those.
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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What makes Venables resume better than Prince?
I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
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I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
So that makes him a better head coach because he was CO-D for so long (and really not THE CO-D) and the fact he recruited in Texas, and the fact that Venables did not receive a good reference from his head coach?
You're going to have a very hard time defending that when you're talking about a head coach with major responsibilities running a program.
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Holy crap.
TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Oklahoma............ 3 287 296 148 583 3.9 4 194.3<-----f'ing insane
2. Texas Tech.......... 4 686 574 264 1260 4.8 11 315.0 <------120 yards behind OU
3. Colorado............ 4 407 875 282 1282 4.5 12 320.5
4. Texas............... 4 210 1133 247 1343 5.4 10 335.8
5. Kansas State........ 4 572 860 262 1432 5.5 12 358.0
6. Texas A&M........... 4 454 1006 231 1460 6.3 12 365.0
7. Baylor.............. 4 767 744 289 1511 5.2 15 377.8
8. Oklahoma State...... 3 589 556 188 1145 6.1 10 381.7
9. Nebraska............ 4 372 1159 296 1531 5.2 8 382.8
10.Missouri............ 4 703 854 282 1557 5.5 9 389.2
11.Iowa State.......... 4 736 940 251 1676 6.7 19 419.0
12.Kansas.............. 4 520 1440 289 1960 6.8 19 490.0
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BV would've been the head coach at KSU but he raped a horse or something. He committed some unmentionable sin that disqualified him from taking the KSU job but more than qualified him for keeping his current job at OU.
Bob Stoops also stated that BV was not ready to be a HC. I think BV sometime well after this said he wasn't ready at the time either.
Ok, then... so be it. BUT, why didn't anybody bother to mention to us that Ron Prince wasn't ready to be a head coach at this level?
Seeing as how Venebles has a FAR better resume than Prince, surely somebody should have noticed. Wouldn't you agree?
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What makes Venables resume better than Prince?
Surely, you're not serious...
:rolleyes:
Should I start with the playing experience, coaching experience, or quality of programs under which he's been taught?
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I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
So that makes him a better head coach because he was CO-D for so long (and really not THE CO-D) and the fact he recruited in Texas, and the fact that Venables did not receive a good reference from his head coach?
I still don't believe that reference crap. And yes, the recruiting aspect outweighs three ring binders any day of the week.
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Surely, you're not serious...
:rolleyes:
Should I start with the playing experience, coaching experience, or quality of programs under which he's been taught?
:tongue:
Go ahead. Still doesn't help make your argument that he would have been a better HC, or the KSU would have been a better team. The resume doesn't help that at all.
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I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
So that makes him a better head coach because he was CO-D for so long (and really not THE CO-D) and the fact he recruited in Texas, and the fact that Venables did not receive a good reference from his head coach?
I still don't believe that reference crap. And yes, the recruiting aspect outweighs three ring binders any day of the week.
Rusty, BV raped a horse. That's why he didn't get the job. I've always found it humerous that BV committed some unmentionable sin that was going to come out soon, but has never come out and Stoops, who must have known about, thought the "sin" was so bad that he let BV keep his same job.
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I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
So that makes him a better head coach because he was CO-D for so long (and really not THE CO-D) and the fact he recruited in Texas, and the fact that Venables did not receive a good reference from his head coach?
I still don't believe that reference crap. And yes, the recruiting aspect outweighs three ring binders any day of the week.
In one year?
Maybe in the long haul, but that's speculation on your part. He can't come in here and do everything himself. He'd have to hire assistant coaches, build a system, etc.. including recruiting. You're basis for recruiting is a PART of the equation. He may have done a better job at recruiting. So has Stoops at Arizona. I don't see them getting much better.
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I would say the fact that he's recruited Texas most of his career and done it quite well makes his resume better to start. The numerous championships don't hurt, either.
So that makes him a better head coach because he was CO-D for so long (and really not THE CO-D) and the fact he recruited in Texas, and the fact that Venables did not receive a good reference from his head coach?
I still don't believe that reference crap. And yes, the recruiting aspect outweighs three ring binders any day of the week.
In one year?
Maybe in the long haul, but that's speculation on your part. He can't come in here and do everything himself. He'd have to hire assistant coaches, build a system, etc.. including recruiting. You're basis for recruiting is a PART of the equation. He may have done a better job at recruiting. So has Stoops at Arizona. I don't see them getting much better.
Sorry, I thought we were discussing who had the better resume to be the head coach, not who would do better in year one. If that's the case, Dana Dimel or Del Miller probably would have done better than Prince or Venables in year one.
Arizona will be in much better shape when Mikey leaves than they would have been if they had some crap recruiter come in and maybe win an extra game a year.
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Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
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Sorry, I thought we were discussing who had the better resume to be the head coach, not who would do better in year one. If that's the case, Dana Dimel or Del Miller probably would have done better than Prince or Venables in year one.
Arizona will be in much better shape when Mikey leaves than they would have been if they had some crap recruiter come in and maybe win an extra game a year.
I think it shows by the hire. Maybe that's where you're confused.
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Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
Sorry, it wasn't. Coaching on championship teams and having rings is one thing.
Check Mangino and let me know if he's a better coach.
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Sorry, I thought we were discussing who had the better resume to be the head coach, not who would do better in year one. If that's the case, Dana Dimel or Del Miller probably would have done better than Prince or Venables in year one.
Arizona will be in much better shape when Mikey leaves than they would have been if they had some crap recruiter come in and maybe win an extra game a year.
I think it shows by the hire. Maybe that's where you're confused.
English, please.
Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
Sorry, it wasn't. Coaching on championship teams and having rings is one thing.
Check Mangino and let me know if he's a better coach.
Better than Prince? It's really tough to make an argument that Mangino's worse than Prince.
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Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
Sorry, it wasn't. Coaching on championship teams and having rings is one thing.
Check Mangino and let me know if he's a better coach.
I thought we were talking about the coach's resume.
RP's OC and OL experience at UVA doesn't measure up to BV's experience working under Snyder and Stoops.
Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?
It doesn't mean that BV would make a better coach just because his resume is better.
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Bottom line is, we fncked up by hiring "outside the family".
By hiring someone from the "Snyder coaching tree", we could have maintained far more continuity and gotten more from the talent on hand. Yet, we aren't getting the best out of the kids we've got.
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Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
Sorry, it wasn't. Coaching on championship teams and having rings is one thing.
Check Mangino and let me know if he's a better coach.
I thought we were talking about the coach's resume.
RP's OC and OL experience at UVA doesn't measure up to BV's experience working under Snyder and Stoops.
Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?
It doesn't mean that BV would make a better coach just because his resume is better.
Doesn't matter what you believe his experiences were, what matters is his ability to be a head coach in managing a football program. It's more than just playing under a system. It's the ability to run a program. I might be the best fry cook in the store. That doesn't qualify me to be the store manager.
Perhaps that's where you're confused. You're looking at championship rings and being on winning programs as the "primary criteria" for being a head coach. It isn't.
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Your question as to what makes BV's resume better than RP's has been answered.
Sorry, it wasn't. Coaching on championship teams and having rings is one thing.
Check Mangino and let me know if he's a better coach.
I thought we were talking about the coach's resume.
RP's OC and OL experience at UVA doesn't measure up to BV's experience working under Snyder and Stoops.
Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?
It doesn't mean that BV would make a better coach just because his resume is better.
Doesn't matter what you believe his experiences were, what matters is his ability to be a head coach in managing a football program. It's more than just playing under a system. It's the ability to run a program. I might be the best fry cook in the store. That doesn't qualify me to be the store manager.
Perhaps that's where you're confused. You're looking at championship rings and being on winning programs as the "primary criteria" for being a head coach. It isn't.
I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
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Bottom line is, we fncked up by hiring "outside the family".
By hiring someone from the "Snyder coaching tree", we could have maintained far more continuity and gotten more from the talent on hand. Yet, we aren't getting the best out of the kids we've got.
That's an assumption not really based in fact. It's your opinion, but really, let's face it, what would be able to show that would back that up?
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
So if you're making the coaching hire, what is your criteria? Based on Prince's prior experience, his resume can't meet many of those criteria. I would probably argue that BV would have more check marks on that criteria than Prince.
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
So if you're making the coaching hire, what is your criteria? Based on Prince's prior experience, his resume can't meet many of those criteria. I would probably argue that BV would have more check marks on that criteria than Prince.
It's more than just being on a championship team. It's about managing and building an entire program and your vision and concept for doing so.
Snyder approved of Prince. I suppose his opinion doesn't count.
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
What criteria would show that Prince's resume is better than Venables?
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
What criteria would show that Prince's resume is better than Venables?
Ask Snyder. He agreed with the hire.
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
What criteria would show that Prince's resume is better than Venables?
Ask Snyder. He agreed with the hire.
He also never fired a coach. How did that work out the last couple of years?
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
What criteria would show that Prince's resume is better than Venables?
Ask Snyder. He agreed with the hire.
Snyder would have freaking agreed with anyone they brought to him. He would have endorsed Del Miller, Bobby Elliott, Dana Dimel, or pretty much any other clown available.
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Snyder would have freaking agreed with anyone they brought to him. He would have endorsed Del Miller, Bobby Elliott, Dana Dimel, or pretty much any other clown available.
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He also never fired a coach. How did that work out the last couple of years?
Means little when you consider that the administration went through Snyder for someone to take over his program. The powers that be decided on a different course of action, and let it go through Snyder. I don't think he was a rubber stamp kind of person.
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I'm not the one that's confused. You're confusing a coach's resume with his ability to be effective as a head coach.
This isn't about who is the better or could be the better coach.
No, the implication is that BV has a better resume BASED on the criteria you guys set therefore must be a better coach. That's where this thread was headed. That's what Bookie is now telling us.
So if you're making the coaching hire, what is your criteria? Based on Prince's prior experience, his resume can't meet many of those criteria. I would probably argue that BV would have more check marks on that criteria than Prince.
It's more than just being on a championship team. It's about managing and building an entire program and your vision and concept for doing so.
Snyder approved of Prince. I suppose his opinion doesn't count.
Maybe it would help to understand the details and focus needed for a championship team. Please refresh my memory, but what championship teams was Prince a part of either coaching or playing?
Who wasn't impressed with Ron Prince's canned speech the first 3-5 times they heard it? Let's face it, the guy could sell tennis memberships to midgets.
I can't fault Snyder for falling for the same smoke and mirrors act as the rest of us did.
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Maybe it would help to understand the details and focus needed for a championship team. Please refresh my memory, but what championship teams was Prince a part of either coaching or playing?
Who wasn't impressed with Ron Prince's canned speech the first 3-5 times they heard it? Let's face it, the guy could sell tennis memberships to midgets.
I can't fault Snyder for falling for the same smoke and mirrors act as the rest of us did.
You expect him to go to a championship in the first year?
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Maybe it would help to understand the details and focus needed for a championship team. Please refresh my memory, but what championship teams was Prince a part of either coaching or playing?
Does "2003 Tire Bowl Champions" count?
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He also never fired a coach. How did that work out the last couple of years?
Means little when you consider that the administration went through Snyder for someone to take over his program. The powers that be decided on a different course of action, and let it go through Snyder. I don't think he was a rubber stamp kind of person.
It has nothing to do with being a "rubber stamp kind of person." What I'm saying is that he isn't infallible regarding coaching personnel decisions. Your assertion that Snyder's seal of approval is as good as gold is a tad flawed considering some of the buffoons we had coaching at this program recently. The guy hit some serious homeruns, decidedly (Bielema, B Stoops, Bennett), but had some flailing strikeouts as well (Elliott, Cosh, Hudson).
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Maybe it would help to understand the details and focus needed for a championship team. Please refresh my memory, but what championship teams was Prince a part of either coaching or playing?
Who wasn't impressed with Ron Prince's canned speech the first 3-5 times they heard it? Let's face it, the guy could sell tennis memberships to midgets.
I can't fault Snyder for falling for the same smoke and mirrors act as the rest of us did.
You expect him to go to a championship in the first year?
No, but I do expect improvement.
Is that really too much to ask?
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BV
Coaching History
1999 - present - Oklahoma Assoc. Head Coach (2004), Co-Def. Coord. & Linebackers Coach
1998 - Kansas State Defensive Run Game Coordinator
1996-1998 - Kansas State Linebackers Coach
1993-1995 - Kansas State Graduate Assistant
Prince
COLLEGE COACHING EXPERIENCE
1992 ......................................Dodge City Community College, volunteer assistant coach (OT/TE)
1993 ................................................................................Alabama A&M, assistant coach (OL/TE)
1994............................................................................South Carolina State, assistant coach (OL)
1995-97..............................................................................James Madison, assistant coach (OL)
1998 ................................................................................................Cornell, assistant coach (OL)
1999-2000 ............................................Cornell, assistant coach/running game coordinator (OL)
2001-2002 ......................................................................................Virginia, assistant coach (OL)
2003-2005..............................................................................Virginia, offensive coordinator (OL)
Both have been in coaching for about the same length of time. One has had more success than the other. Under BV's defenses, the lowest the defense ever ranked was 39th in 1999. After that, they've been in the top 15 in defense every single year since. In Prince's 3 years as OC, they finished in the top 25 once and out of the top 50 in the two other years. BV would have had a better understanding of KSU and is just as good of a recruiter as Prince (if not better). I don't know how Prince's resume was better than BV's. But BV did rape a horse.
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He also never fired a coach. How did that work out the last couple of years?
Means little when you consider that the administration went through Snyder for someone to take over his program. The powers that be decided on a different course of action, and let it go through Snyder. I don't think he was a rubber stamp kind of person.
It has nothing to do with being a "rubber stamp kind of person." What I'm saying is that he isn't infallible regarding coaching personnel decisions. Your assertion that Snyder's seal of approval is as good as gold is a tad flawed considering some of the buffoons we had coaching at this program recently. The guy hit some serious homeruns, decidedly (Bielema, B Stoops, Bennett), but had some flailing strikeouts as well (Elliott, Cosh, Hudson).
It happens everywhere, but it was still his program, and ultimately, the administration wanted his blessing on the coaching prospect. Sure, you can pick duds at any time. I'm not sure we picked a "dud".
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He also never fired a coach. How did that work out the last couple of years?
Means little when you consider that the administration went through Snyder for someone to take over his program. The powers that be decided on a different course of action, and let it go through Snyder. I don't think he was a rubber stamp kind of person.
It has nothing to do with being a "rubber stamp kind of person." What I'm saying is that he isn't infallible regarding coaching personnel decisions. Your assertion that Snyder's seal of approval is as good as gold is a tad flawed considering some of the buffoons we had coaching at this program recently. The guy hit some serious homeruns, decidedly (Bielema, B Stoops, Bennett), but had some flailing strikeouts as well (Elliott, Cosh, Hudson).
It happens everywhere, but it was still his program, and ultimately, the administration wanted his blessing on the coaching prospect. Sure, you can pick duds at any time. I'm not sure we picked a "dud".
Neither am I. All I'm saying is the Snyder ringing endorsement isn't a guarantee.
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Pimp, I did discover that the SC State team he was part of won a league title.
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Pimp, I did discover that the SC State team he was part of won a league title.
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