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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
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True but then the Tattoo wouldn't look so good.
:love: :love: :love:
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
:powertard: I always wanted to do that!
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
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check out his tats on the insides. pretty odd.
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
Is this a serious post??? :confused:
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you're forgetting that Grant sucks in a lot of other ways too, besides just arm strength.
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True but then the Tattoo wouldn't look so good.
:love: :love: :love:
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
Is this a serious post??? :confused:
Who knows, it's fun though isn't it?
I have always lived my life by the simple philosophy of "Curls for the Girls" and it has always served me well. ;) :tongue: :lick: 8-) :love: :fatty:
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dont question his arm strength...LOL
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/Picture5-1.png)
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
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dont question his arm strength...LOL
Well played sir.
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
Do you ever get the feeling that you are a &@#%ing idiot?
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
Do you ever get the feeling that you are a fracking idiot?
I understand that you have no life and need to insult people to get attention.
Are you related to Gregory? :confused:
lol.
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Are you related to Gregory? :confused:
lol.
Yes. He's my brother.
Not lol. Not lol at all.
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
Unless one of you is a sports med doc or at the very least a masters student in Physiology or Kinesiology take this crap elsewhere. We know that opcat is not either of these things because he calling out someone for having too much gun at the gun show and he ran to wikipedia for citation. But we're all very impressed that you can lift 3 bills and still fit into your middle school cheer leading outfit.
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Are you related to Gregory? :confused:
lol.
Yes. He's my brother.
Not lol. Not lol at all.
Ok, i am going to go ahead and believe he's your bro.
Don't take offense. I like the guy. His video of him breaking down in the post game made me a fan.
My comments aren't intended for insult. Just regular football talk dude. chill.
nice to have you aboard.
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
Unless one of you is a sports med doc or at the very least a masters student in Physiology or Kinesiology take this crap elsewhere. We know that opcat is not either of these things because he calling out someone for having too much gun at the gun show and he ran to wikipedia for citation. But we're all very impressed that you can lift 3 bills and still fit into your middle school cheer leading outfit.
please quit. This is regular bodybuilding and strength training talk.
At least i don't use tampons like you and could kick your ass. :popcorn:
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Arm size doesn't correlate.
Most of the qb's with the strongest arms don't have huge arms.
The guy is getting bad advice in his career for working on size doing reps of 8-12 instead of pure strength in fast twitch muscles in the range of 1-5 reps.
Dude would be NFL prospect if he didn't waste it on being big instead of stronger.
I think you may have this backwards. people trying to put on lots of muscle mass do 1-5 reps, but guys trying to tone out and get stronger do higher reps (8-12).
and you are 100% backwards. Usually reps of 8,10,12 are done in the 70ish% of 1 rep max which translates into "hypertrophy" or enlargement of the muscle tissue. Sets of 1-5 are done at higher 1 RM %'s and results in higher recruitment of Type 2 or "fast twitch" motor units, not the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle tissue.
BTW, If you ever hear anybody try to tell you that speed is developed thru light weight, fast movements... simply plug your ears. Speed and power is developed at very high intensities and loads, and takes place in a state of fatigue. That is why powerlifters do super high set amounts and reps of only 1-3ish.
The original post makes sense to a certain point, but i guarantee he is not only doing higher rep lifting... the strength and conditioning program is not that dumb. But, if he does have a history of bodybuilding, it could of diminished his throwing skills.
thanks for the advice but nothing i said is backwards.
Everything i said is correct. The lower reps grow some muscle size but not as much as the higher reps in the 8-12 range. The strength in the lower range is neural and the muscle fibers are more dense. That's why powerlifters don't have Arnold type arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy#Types_of_hypertrophy
i am living testament. Can lift 300 but arms are thin.
GG could have doubled his arm strength if he were smarter.
Unless one of you is a sports med doc or at the very least a masters student in Physiology or Kinesiology take this crap elsewhere. We know that opcat is not either of these things because he calling out someone for having too much gun at the gun show and he ran to wikipedia for citation. But we're all very impressed that you can lift 3 bills and still fit into your middle school cheer leading outfit.
please quit. This is regular bodybuilding and strength training talk.
At least i don't use tampons like you and could kick your ass. :popcorn:
Congrats tough guy.
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opcat, you are wrong,
I am a proffessional body builder that used to be an NFL qb.
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don't need any degree to understand this.
just google image powerlifter and compare to 'natural' bodybuilders.
http://www.criticalbench.com/bodybuilders-bench-pressing.htm
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opcat, you are wrong,
I am a proffessional body builder that used to be an NFL qb.
:lol:
name? :rolleyes:
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Look at Sproles' thighs. Look at Madea's thighs. Look at Sproles' thighs again. Now, what have we learned?
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Only problem with this whole thread is that "arm strength" (as discussed) and "how far you can throw the ball" are two wildly different things.
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Only problem with this whole thread is that "arm strength" (as discussed) and "how far you can throw the ball" are two wildly different things.
Beat me to it.
Throwing the ball far has much more to do with shoulder, wrist and tricep strength than biceps. Biceps are for lifting. Unless his center likes his ass lifted at the snap, he's probably just building arm strength for other purposes.
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Are you related to Gregory? :confused:
lol.
Yes. He's my brother.
Not lol. Not lol at all.
Ok, i am going to go ahead and believe he's your bro.
Don't take offense. I like the guy. His video of him breaking down in the post game made me a fan.
My comments aren't intended for insult. Just regular football talk dude. chill.
nice to have you aboard.
Thank you sir. You are not so bad afterall. Go Bro Gregory!
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opcat, you also realize that some people are born with more fast twitch fibers than other, right?
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opcat, you also realize that some people are born with more fast twitch fibers than other, right?
(http://blogs.jamaicans.com/metinking/files/2008/12/usain-boltid.jpg)
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I think Grant can't throw the ball hard because his shoulder is Raggady Ann. Also, from pictures I've seen of Grant in the past, I think he might have been in to body building a little more than football. (http://blogs.tampabay.com/usf/images/2009/01/29/grantg.jpg)
Necks don't get this way naturally.
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I think Grant can't throw the ball hard because his shoulder is Raggady Ann. Also, from pictures I've seen of Grant in the past, I think he might have been in to body building a little more than football. (http://blogs.tampabay.com/usf/images/2009/01/29/grantg.jpg)
Necks don't get this way naturally.
grant's never been into bodybuilding. everything he's ever done in the weight room is to make himself a better football player. his neck looks like that because he never skips a single set of neck iso in the weight room like 99% of football players out there.
trust me fella's he's not really that big, 6'1" 205-210 lbs. he eats a clean diet and works out (running, lifting and throwing, not just curls) constantly so he's got no body fat.
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True but then the Tattoo wouldn't look so good.
:love: :love: :love:
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(http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/95dcd32d-62e5-436b-b21a-6c9f57dc0398.jpg)
Need the arms to pull off those.
Tate can you explain the ? Tattoo
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opcat, you also realize that some people are born with more fast twitch fibers than other, right?
(http://blogs.jamaicans.com/metinking/files/2008/12/usain-boltid.jpg)
I'm not sure if you're trying to argue with me or making my point.
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he's got a few tattoos on the inside of his biceps. the question mark is a reminder of how many people questioned his ability to play QB at the d-1 level. the words surrounding the question mark are "through adversity there is redemption". he's been through a lot in his college career so that one is self-explanatory. he's also got the words "Never Forget" on his left bicep.
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he's got a few tattoos on the inside of his biceps. the question mark is a reminder of how many people questioned his ability to play QB at the d-1 level. the words surrounding the question mark are "through adversity there is redemption". he's been through a lot in his college career so that one is self-explanatory. he's also got the words "Never Forget" on his left bicep.
Elite post.
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Was nobody paying attention when some of us told you guys that Grant f^cked his shoulder up in the preseason? Tate, please confirm this. Thanks.
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tategregory, welcome aboard. elite level posting thus far.
now answer stevedave's question please.
:kstatriot:
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I would just add it's also how it's all put together. You should also include the core strength of the body. A great arm is the result of a well developed body combined with great technique and the coordination and the ability to excute.
Only problem with this whole thread is that "arm strength" (as discussed) and "how far you can throw the ball" are two wildly different things.
Beat me to it.
Throwing the ball far has much more to do with shoulder, wrist and tricep strength than biceps. Biceps are for lifting. Unless his center likes his ass lifted at the snap, he's probably just building arm strength for other purposes.