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Title: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Pete on September 11, 2009, 11:03:24 PM
Who's it going to be?  I know that their athletic leadership is incompetent, at best. 

However, the beautiful campus recruits on it's own. 

If they get a decent coach..... :ohno:

Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2009, 11:04:49 PM
Can you imagine what a Gary Patterson could do there  :frown:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
Would just dominate the north, scary.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: fatty fat fat on September 11, 2009, 11:06:07 PM
Jeremy Bloom.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2009, 11:06:29 PM
Jeremy Bloom.

Klatt?
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: BostonPancake on September 11, 2009, 11:06:45 PM
Just a hunch that it won't be the Boise St coach.

Could go with the Whittingham (Utah), Turner Gill (good jab at NU) or Gary "It's Patterson" Patterson.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on September 11, 2009, 11:07:57 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2009, 11:08:44 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Pete on September 11, 2009, 11:10:48 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 

If Gary Patterson goes to CU, we are &@#%ed.  Fracked.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on September 11, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
Good news is that CU can't afford a new coach right now.  They don't have the cash to buy out Hawkins and sign a decent coach.  Not saying it can't happen, but their boosters would have to step up in a major way to make it happen.  Sucks to be a Buff.   :lol:

Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: fatty fat fat on September 11, 2009, 11:12:24 PM
Good news is that CU can't afford a new coach right now.  They don't have the cash to buy out Hawkins and sign a decent coach.  Not saying it can't happen, but their boosters would have to step up in a major way to make it happen.  Sucks to be a Buff.   :lol:



lmao. go cats!
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2009, 11:14:17 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 

If Gary Patterson goes to CU, we are fracked.  Fracked.


FRACKED!
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on September 11, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 
Not really.  I still love Patterson.  I just hate Wefald and Krause.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: fatty fat fat on September 11, 2009, 11:15:21 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 
Not really.  I still love Patterson.  I just hate Wefald and Krause.

wasn't krause the guy who wanted patterson??

<==still heatbroken ovr the entire thing
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: JTKSU on September 11, 2009, 11:17:28 PM
Good news is that CU can't afford a new coach right now.  They don't have the cash to buy out Hawkins and sign a decent coach.  Not saying it can't happen, but their boosters would have to step up in a major way to make it happen.  Sucks to be a Buff.   :lol:



Dude, those boosters are probably already scratching out checks as we speak.  If they want Hawkins gone, he's gone.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: KSU78 on September 11, 2009, 11:17:46 PM
Ron Prince would be a pretty good choice. I don't think K-State's defense was as atrocious as Colorado's at that level of play.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on September 11, 2009, 11:30:33 PM
The guy they really want is Mike Shanahan, but most agree he would be too expensive and is likely to take another NFL job.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2009, 11:32:50 PM
The guy they really want is Mike Shanahan, but most agree he would be too expensive and is likely to take another NFL job.

Plus he would bomb at the college level.  They would be retarded not to hire Patterson.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on September 11, 2009, 11:38:43 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 
Not really.  I still love Patterson.  I just hate Wefald and Krause.

wasn't krause the guy who wanted patterson??

<==still heatbroken ovr the entire thing
Well, I don't know exactly what went down at the end, but I was lead to believe by Patterson's agent that they were talking with K-State.  He asked me to take the site down so that the attention would die down.  From the sound of it, the appeal of being near his family was bigger than the money or coming back to his alma mater. 

Krause sent me an e-mail saying he wanted to talk to me about the site, then when I replied he ignored me.

After GPC released the "It's Patterson" story I called his agent and he said I could put the site back up if I wanted.  I assumed it was because "the cat was out of the bag" .  It made sense to me that they would deny any deal with K-State while football season was still in progress at tcu.  

I don't know exactly what happened with the talks.  Patterson could have made the decision to back out, and Snydez was the backup plan.  Or Weefer / Snydez butted in, forcing the door shut on Patterson.  Krause would take blame either way because as AD at the time, he had a legit chance to bring in an awesome coach who was apparently interested, and it didn't happen.  If Weefer forced his hand (very possible) it's even worse.

The only reason the site was put up anyways was to raise fan support and pressure the AD to fire prince and look at Patterson.  Seems like it was pseudo effective in that regard at least.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on September 11, 2009, 11:40:04 PM
Good news is that CU can't afford a new coach right now.  They don't have the cash to buy out Hawkins and sign a decent coach.  Not saying it can't happen, but their boosters would have to step up in a major way to make it happen.  Sucks to be a Buff.   :lol:



Dude, those boosters are probably already scratching out checks as we speak.  If they want Hawkins gone, he's gone.

You might be right about that.  They better have some rich donors, though, and historically CU hasn't gotten the kind of booster support that other Big 12 schools get.  They are way behind in facilities as it is.

Funny post by CU Fan:

Quote
This is an enbarrassament worse that any rape of murder charges or any other
terrible scandal that can happen to any school. This is not intramurals Coach Hawkins!
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: SuperG on September 12, 2009, 12:23:50 AM
Can you imagine what a Gary Patterson could do there  :frown:

I truly believe he wouldn't be able to to crap. Bouldertown hates genetically modified foods, black people, women, poor people ... but most of all sports. The true intention of this university is to become a private university so they can conveniently do away with those pesky "in staters". To do that, they'll need to first eliminate any interest in the sports program. A prime example of this doctrine at work is the hiring of the mouth-breathing neanderthal, Dan Hawkins.

I still think they'll kick our ass this year.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Del Tremens on September 12, 2009, 01:05:44 AM
The guy they really want is Mike Shanahan, but most agree he would be too expensive and is likely to take another NFL job.

IIRC, Shanahan has more connections to CSU, anyway.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: FecalBuff on September 12, 2009, 01:14:16 AM
Funny thread, but Hawk is going nowhere.  The school is broke, but I would love Patterson now that you mention it.  Our defense kind of needs it.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: QuinnMac on September 12, 2009, 01:14:18 AM
Can you imagine what a Gary Patterson could do there  :frown:
don't you even go there
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 12, 2009, 07:27:51 AM
Can you imagine what a Gary Patterson could do there  :frown:

I truly believe he wouldn't be able to to crap. Bouldertown hates genetically modified foods, black people, women, poor people ... but most of all sports. The true intention of this university is to become a private university so they can conveniently do away with those pesky "in staters". To do that, they'll need to first eliminate any interest in the sports program. A prime example of this doctrine at work is the hiring of the mouth-breathing neanderthal, Dan Hawkins.

I still think they'll kick our ass this year.

They have a NC though
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Winters on September 12, 2009, 09:46:03 AM
Can you imagine what a Gary Patterson could do there  :frown:
Don't say that SD.  :frown:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on September 12, 2009, 09:54:52 AM
Funny thread, but Hawk is going nowhere.  The school is broke, but I would love Patterson now that you mention it.  Our defense kind of needs it.

Kind of??  :confused:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on September 14, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
Sound like CU us up a sh1t creek with Hawkins.  They still have a massive debt from their last coaching change and buyout of Barnett.  Sounds like their athletic department is in no position to fire him at the moment.  A Hawkins buyout would be in the $3 Million range.  Check out this Kyle Ringo article for details:

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_13329737?source=most_viewed


Quote
The athletic department remains in deeply in debt with the majority of an $8 million loan from the campus and the CU system in 2006 still to be paid off. Part of that debt was caused by the last coaching change when Bohn fired Gary Barnett at the end of the 2005 season and hired Hawkins.

CU was heavily criticized for having to pay Barnett approximately $4 million when it fired him. The terms of Barnett's contract, negotiated by former athletic director Dick Tharp, required the settlement, and that led to CU trying to limit its obligations in Hawkins' contract.

The department would have to borrow money to buyout Hawkins and it would be hard-pressed to do so in the current economic climate in which state funding is being significantly trimmed and some CU employees have already lost their jobs.

Paying a coach millions of dollars not to coach might be hard to justify, maybe even more so than living with the results he is producing on the field.

 :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 14, 2009, 09:35:04 PM
Who's it going to be?  I know that their athletic leadership is incompetent, at best. 

However, the beautiful campus recruits on it's own. 

If they get a decent coach..... :ohno:



:lol:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: rundown87 on September 14, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
I would be like, really heartbroken of Patterson went anywhere other than tcu or KSU.

Do you ever feel bad for playing into their hands? 

If Gary Patterson goes to CU, we are fracked.  Fracked.

Remember how he would have been here, if your website hadn't fracked that up.  Fracked.
Title: I think it is fairly apparant
Post by: The Kaiser on September 14, 2009, 10:40:22 PM
that KSU was negotiating with Patterson without tcu's knowledge or consent and once Fitz opened his pie hole KSU was guilty of tampering with tcu's employee.  The only way out was to drop the whole freakin deal and go back to OB's, because I don't think KSU was getting somebody else without an AD or president in place.

I am predicting Venables to CU.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kougar24 on September 14, 2009, 11:39:05 PM
Can you imagine my meltdown if Patterson went to a Big XII North school not named Kansas State?

Good lord, that would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: JTKSU on September 14, 2009, 11:51:06 PM
Can you imagine my meltdown if Patterson went to a Big XII North school not named Kansas State?

Good lord, that would be ridiculous.

Or Venables.  Either one in the north would frustrate me to no end.  Probably squirt a few if that ever happens.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 15, 2009, 11:58:36 AM
I would like the following:

1. GP
2. BV






133. OBz
489. Charles Manson
874. Osama Bin Laden
875. Ron Prince
876. Satan
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: ksu_FAN on September 17, 2009, 02:11:27 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2009, 02:16:15 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."

What an amazing prof.  I would love to be teaching em'up and call on Hrebec to come up front to get the business for the rest of the class' enjoyment.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."

What an amazing prof.  I would love to be teaching em'up and call on Hrebec to come up front to get the business for the rest of the class' enjoyment.

Hey, welcome back on this Monday to Geo 211 . . . before we begin talking some more about the root causes of landslides in North America, I'd like Carson Coffman to come up here and explain to all of us how in the hell he missed completely on 8 straight passes . . .
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2009, 02:43:15 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."

What an amazing prof.  I would love to be teaching em'up and call on Hrebec to come up front to get the business for the rest of the class' enjoyment.

Hey, welcome back on this Monday to Geo 211 . . . before we begin talking some more about the root causes of landslides in North America, I'd like Carson Coffman to come up here and explain to all of us how in the hell he missed completely on 8 straight passes . . .

lols.  I can picture the class now:

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  :sleep: :sleep: :popcorn:
 :sleep: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

 :popcorn:= students
 :sleep:= asian students
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Pike on September 17, 2009, 02:47:29 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."

What an amazing prof.  I would love to be teaching em'up and call on Hrebec to come up front to get the business for the rest of the class' enjoyment.

Hey, welcome back on this Monday to Geo 211 . . . before we begin talking some more about the root causes of landslides in North America, I'd like Carson Coffman to come up here and explain to all of us how in the hell he missed completely on 8 straight passes . . .

lols.  I can picture the class now:

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  :sleep: :sleep: :popcorn:
 :sleep: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

 :popcorn:= students
 :sleep:= asian students

PSSSHHHH. Best post of the decade imo. Seriously just laughed my ass off. Good work.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Irish4Cats on September 17, 2009, 02:53:05 PM
I think you are all kidding yourself. A CU player in class, yea right.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: CatsNShocks on September 17, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
I would like the following:

1. GP
2. BV






133. OBz
489. Charles Manson
874. Osama Bin Laden
875. Ron Prince
876. Satan


Satan should be much higher IMO. Dude could recruit like a mofo.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: Copper Bowl on September 17, 2009, 03:38:02 PM
Only in Boulder. (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_13346430)

Quote
BOULDER — After an embarrassing loss at Toledo, Colorado football players knew they would have a hostile greeting when they returned home, but maybe they didn't know the extent of it.

They do now.

"I have this geology class," senior linebacker and captain Marcus Burton said Tuesday, "and the professor's like, 'You people may think this class is boring. We're just talking about rocks. But it's no more boring than both the CU games. Marcus, you're a captain. Can you tell us about that?'

"He calls me out on the floor. I wanted to leave, but I didn't. I'm in the class to learn. I'm not there to talk about football."

What an amazing prof.  I would love to be teaching em'up and call on Hrebec to come up front to get the business for the rest of the class' enjoyment.

Hey, welcome back on this Monday to Geo 211 . . . before we begin talking some more about the root causes of landslides in North America, I'd like Carson Coffman to come up here and explain to all of us how in the hell he missed completely on 8 straight passes . . .

lols.  I can picture the class now:

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  :sleep: :sleep: :popcorn:
 :sleep: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

 :popcorn:= students
 :sleep:= asian students

PSSSHHHH. Best post of the decade imo. Seriously just laughed my ass off. Good work.

See, sometimes I see I post on here, like some lame-o asking one of the rare women who might post here if she likes it "ITB", and think . . . "How in the fracking hell is there an ESPN banner up there???" :confused: :facepalm:

But it's an off-color post of this quality that keeps me a-comin back.

Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on November 17, 2009, 07:57:48 AM
I told you that Mike Shanahan was their dream candidate back in September.  Others listed here as well:

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If there is a change, the list of candidates will be a large one. Expect athletic director Mike Bohn to aim high and go from there.

How high? We`re guessing Bohn will begin by testing former Bronco coach Mike Shanahan`s temperature.

Despite rumors to the contrary, the two have not spoken. Neither have they had discussions through intermediaries.

But it`s an intriguing possibility. Shanahan has two more years of being paid $7 million by former boss Pat Bowlen, meaning money wouldn`t be a major issue in Boulder -- for at least a couple of years.

The positives? Along with an immediate bump in ticket sales and a couple of Super Bowl rings, Shanahan would bring to CU a high-profile, high-powered list of donors who could fill CU`s donations coffers in a hurry. Such a hire would put CU back on the map immediately.

(We interrupt this dream, however, to inject a little dose of reality. CU has traveled this road before. We mention Chuck Fairbanks only as fair warning.)

It`s also difficult to imagine Shanahan developing an interest in recruiting. He`s a man who loves studying football -- not poring over lists of prep stars. Game plans, salary caps and free agency are his areas of expertise, not selling a program to 18-year-olds and their parents.

But it is nevertheless a fascinating thought.

Other names you are sure to hear if Hawkins is indeed on the way out?

Former head coaches such as Phil Fulmer (Tennessee) and Tommy Tuberville (Auburn) are sure to be mentioned. Oklahoma defensive coordinator Brent Venables usually finds his name in the mix when jobs open up.

Then there are current head coaches who might be ready to move up to a BCS school.

Houston`s Kevin Sumlin is a hot commodity this year. A year ago, the man on lots of folks` list was Buffalo`s Turner Gill. One guy we like is Air Force coach Troy Calhoun, who has a solid pro background (Broncos) as well as the proven ability to pick up and win in a hurry, as he did in his first year at AFA.

And, of course, there will be the names that hard-core CU fans favor: Jon Embree. Eric Bieniemy. Dave Logan.

http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-college-sports/ci_13804778
Title: mention of FRANK SOLICH
Post by: The Kaiser on November 17, 2009, 10:10:37 AM
in the comments.  That would really chap some Husker ass.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: FecalBuff on November 17, 2009, 10:15:57 AM
I want Gary Patterson or Kevin Sumlin. I think we'll get either of them. The University is going to have to pony up the money somehow, because I don't see how da Cawk stays.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2009, 10:28:26 AM
Hawk was a hot candidate last time around.  They'll probably have a WTF hire this time.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2009, 11:17:10 AM
Love the Dave Logan mention in every CU coaching search article.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: JTKSU on November 17, 2009, 01:18:38 PM
I want Gary Patterson or Kevin Sumlin. I think we'll get either of them. The University is going to have to pony up the money somehow, because I don't see how da Cawk stays.

Why would Patterson take such a huge step backwards? 
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: cas on November 17, 2009, 02:54:41 PM
mangino to buffies. chance to play his old crew every year. my god, could get ugly. can't think mangino would succeed because he's ugly, you know?
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2009, 03:19:16 PM
Love the Dave Logan mention in every CU coaching search article.

I think Dave Logan is Denver's biggest celebrity for some weird reason.  They adore him.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: JTKSU on November 17, 2009, 05:56:23 PM
mangino to buffies. chance to play his old crew every year. my god, could get ugly. can't think mangino would succeed because he's ugly, you know?

No way the admin @ Boulder hires that fat bastard.  Would never pass the good looks portion of the interview.
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: kst8cat on November 26, 2009, 08:30:07 AM
Good news is that CU can't afford a new coach right now.  They don't have the cash to buy out Hawkins and sign a decent coach.  Not saying it can't happen, but their boosters would have to step up in a major way to make it happen.  Sucks to be a Buff.   :lol:



 :adored:
Title: Re: New Colorado Coach Thread
Post by: catsfan20052006 on November 26, 2009, 08:35:45 AM
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=46775.0