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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: michigancat on October 14, 2006, 10:50:47 PM
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Really good.
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Very good. His 2 interception weren't his fault at all.
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Three more years.
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seriously though, back to the topic at hand, yes freeman even in the loss today looked pretty dang good, he will carry us, single-handedly if there's no one else, for the next 3 years
escaping the rush and putting it on the money a few times was beautiful
if he improves at all, which he certainly will, think how good he will be, add a few more completions to his total as he matures and he's the best qb in the league
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I agree that Freeman looks great for a true freshman--better than Quinn or Leak, IMO. He seems to be very smart with the ball and doesn't panic. He may, of course, but it sure doesn't seem like he will undergo a KM @ Toledo type of game. Leon Patton also looks great for a true freshman. He showed some major strength when he moved the pile on a 3rd and inches in the 2nd (?) quarter.
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He's showing that he's a good learner as well which is a good sign. He'll be really dangerous when he can pass downfield and if he ever gets an offensive line.
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Would like to see some TD passes.
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Would like to see some TD passes.
QB sneak.
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It would be a crying shame for that boy to go 4 years without a decent O-Line.
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where is jordy? why can't we recruit a big-time receiver? Moreira and figurs will be gone after this year. Time to reach into the jucos
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Also, any TD pass will pretty much have to be due to YAC. He will never have time for a long pass play to develop.
It would be a crying shame for that boy to go 4 years without a decent O-Line.
Prince was an OL coach...he'll be fine. :thumbsup:
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where is jordy? why can't we recruit a big-time receiver? Moreira and figurs will be gone after this year. Time to reach into the jucos
Lamark. We offered a JUCO WR. I'll look for the link.
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Not looking like Jordy will contribute much this year. Injury to his knee has made him a decoy at best.
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he's definitely proven he can throw on the run well. his pocket passes still sail on him quite a bit, which appears common for young qb's. only a matter of time, then his compl. % should shoot up too.
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I thought Freeman showed why we wanted him so badly! He's going to an excellent QB for you guys. For getting sacked 4 times and numerous hurries he stood in there and delivered the ball very well. "IF" you get an O-line that can give a little protection and develop a running game he'll be a winner for KSU. I was impressed for freshman making only his 2nd start. I do believe you got solidly out coached but that happens. Don’t forget it was only 2 seasons ago we had our FIRST losing season in about 40 years. BC is doing an excellent job rebuilding our program. Give your new coach at least 3 seasons before making a final judgment about him and his system. He was left with the cupboard pretty bare which is what happened to Callahan. Prince has made some mistakes about how you treat personal but maybe he’s also learning. He was never a head coach before so it takes time. We’ll see you all in Lincoln next year. BTW I’m thrilled we’ll have a big time QB in Sam Keller next season. He’s as good a passer as you’ll see in the Big 12 next season…… Good luck with the rest of your season... beat Mizzo! ;)
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I'm interested to see what the kid can do with an OL...or a running game of some sort.
I wanted to rip somone's nuts off for not letting him run the sneak....no way in hell he doesn't get the TD.
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We have a mediocre O-line. It's just that our playcalling is so fuqin predictable all defenses have to do is react. They know when we are running the ball, so the linebackers simply run downhill and make plays without any thinking. They know when we will pass, so they can zone blitz at will. Even when teams don't blitz, it's hard for an olineman to pass block when d linemen know we are going to drop back and throw the ball. If I were a dlineman against KSU I would be licking my chops. Also, #54 for UNL was disgusting. Wafford was just getting thrown around by that dude and Wafford is a solid OLmen.
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Freeman took some big (late) licks out there and kept getting up and throwing well. this guy may bolt after his 3rd year and i won't blame him one bit for it
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Freeman took some big (late) licks out there and kept getting up and throwing well. this guy may bolt after his 3rd year and i won't blame him one bit for it
To the canadian league?
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if he improves at all, which he certainly will, think how good he will be, add a few more completions to his total as he matures and he's the best qb in the league
Freeman kept his composure, which was impressive considering the amount of heat he was getting. A few more completions don't make him the best in the league though...that's just ignorant to say.
Zach Taylor is far superior as a QB to Freeman. Sam Keller is better now, and will be still better next year. Joe Ganz is better than Freeman. That's three just at Nebraska that are better than Freeman. He looks like he has some promise, but saying a couple of completions make him the best in the league is ridiculous.
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nebraska hides their qb in thier offense. that's how good he is.
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Nebraska actually has an offense...that's the difference.
We can run the ball, and don't need to drop back and throw 50 times a game in order to have a chance. When you're limited to about 20 or so rushing yards for the game, you don't have much choice but to 'feature' the QB, even if he's running for his life...Run Josh Run... :lol: I thought they might need a spatula to scrape him off the turf after a couple of those hits.
Oh, and we're normally ahead, and running makes good sense to run the clock. When you're like K-State, and playing from behind most of the time, you throw the ball more.
:flush: K-State!!!
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i wasn't just referring to the ksu game.
your stupidity is the reason your mother quit loving you.
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My post wasn't just referring to the K-State game...apparently they need to work some "Hooked on Phonics" into the curriculum there at K-State.
Oh, and my massive manhood is the reason that your mom keeps loving me...
Just FYI, that $2 a pop is supplementing your food stamps and helping her buy you government cheese. I would think you would show more appreciation.
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nebraska hides their qb in thier offense. that's how good he is.
Not sure what you mean by "hiding." Any smart staff is going to play to their player strengths and try to mask or minimize deficiencies. Zac is not going to be compared to Leinart or Vince Young, but you can bet your ass that OU probably wishes that they had him right now. Freeman has more upside and is an impressive prospect physically. He was definitely more effective rolling out than under center, but the pass rush had something to do with it. Can't wait for the duel next year between Freeman and Keller. Should be a good game. I have heard so many mixed things about Coach Prince that I can't tell if you guys like him or not, but that Raheem Morris can coach. Your D is in my opinion outstanding and that won't show up in the newspapers all the time, but no one is going to blow you guys out with that defense.
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Can't wait for the duel next year between Freeman and Keller. Should be a good game.
Keller will smoke Freeman...he's got a shot at being a 1st round NFL draft pick, and with Purify, Nunn, Hardy, Swift, etc., Lucky as the featured back, and a better O-Line, we will roll to victory.
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Can't wait for the duel next year between Freeman and Keller. Should be a good game.
Keller will smoke Freeman...he's got a shot at being a 1st round NFL draft pick, and with Purify, Nunn, Hardy, Swift, etc., Lucky as the featured back, and a better O-Line, we will roll to victory.
Lemme guess. You think Keller is going to be better because...
Anyone who understands players knows that having a year off is not going to make him better. And what if he gets hurt? You're just trying to make yourself feel better when in fact, you're probably scared crapless that you might not ever have another change to talk smack on KSU again.
I can understand that.
In all seriously, Keller is a good QB, but he's going into a new system with a year off, and that's going to cause issues for you. I expect Keller to do OK, but if you think he's going to be better than Zac, you're kidding yourself.
Unless you spend time in the offense, you're never going to get better. You can dog on Freeman all you want to, but he's going to end up smarter and better being in this system and be able to work with the guys on the line to make himself better.
If I were you, I would start to see this for what it is: KSU has got a QB for the next three years that is going to go places. NU is going to have to retool each year with a new QB for at least the next two years. This is/was your only shot to make it back to the top before you drop off again, if all you're talking about is QB play.
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Keller is touted as a potential first round NFL draft pick. He's got a massive amount of big game experience, is a smart kid, and gets a year to learn the offense before taking over. Taylor is a good QB in his own right, but lacks the talent that Keller has. We lose a few important guys on our defensive front, but otherwise the Huskers will be far better next year than this year. Great QB, Great RBs (esp Lucky), Great WRs, a better offensive line, and a far better secondary. The Huskers are good this year, but will be loaded for bear next year.
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they're hiding taylor when they don't even let him throw when the game's on the line.
or you could realize that there is a freshman and a sophomore qb in the big 12 that have better ratings than taylor.
and another sophomore that is carrying is actually carrying his team, and not just baggage that needs to be protected.
you twerps are crap stupid.
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freeman>taylor
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freeman>taylor
Based on what? Freeman only went to KSU because he wanted to play immediately. He realized there was no way he'd beat out Zach Taylor and would probably be sitting behind Harrison Beck. So he left to go to Manhattan because Ron Prince promised him the job. That means that even Freeman realized that Taylor was a better QB than he was. Otherwise he would have nutted it up and come to Lincoln to compete for a job.
Taylor's team has a better W-L record, they just slapped you guys around, and you're still trying to run smack about your QB who led your team to a lone field goal being better than Taylor? Dream On. :lol:
For the season:
Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs.
Freeman has completed 43.1% of his passes for 663 yards, with 0 TDs and 6 INTs.
There's not even a comparison there. The idea that you suggest that Freeman is better than Taylor is ridiculous. That's like comparing the driving skills of Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Stevie Wonder. You're a complete idiot. :lol:
:flush: K-State!!!
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Not this again.
Most would trade one year of Taylor for 4 of Freeman.
It's common sense.
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Keller is touted as a potential first round NFL draft pick. He's got a massive amount of big game experience, is a smart kid, and gets a year to learn the offense before taking over. Taylor is a good QB in his own right, but lacks the talent that Keller has. We lose a few important guys on our defensive front, but otherwise the Huskers will be far better next year than this year. Great QB, Great RBs (esp Lucky), Great WRs, a better offensive line, and a far better secondary. The Huskers are good this year, but will be loaded for bear next year.
By who? Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.
Yeah, he's got big game experience, in an offense designed by Koetter who's having all kinds of issues here at ASU and will be fired at the end of the season. Taylor is at best, an average QB, who'll probably sign as a free-agent for some program because he hasn't proven himself in a big program. Hell, he didn't have great numbers against KSU.
You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense. You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.
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By who? Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.
Here he is listed as a Top 5 QB prospect with Quinn and Stanton. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9370926
Here he is listed as a potential first rounder:
If Keller loses significant time to 2005 NCAA pass-efficiency leader Rudy Carpenter this year, he’ll be a second-day pick in ’07. Though he doesn’t have the mobility of his sophomore counterpart, we like the senior’s chances of getting the majority of field time, and with a productive, healthy ‘06 campaign, the strong-armed Keller could crack the first round. He's plenty 'efficient' himself. The 6-4/229 signal-caller got off to a hot start last season, throwing 20 TD passes and just nine INTs before tearing a ligament in his thumb and missing the final five contests. A healthy Keller is a highly-intriguing NFL prospect, and he’s reportedly 100% this spring.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=CFB&majteam=FL&columnid=55&article=21019
You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense. You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.
Are you serious? We lose our DEs, Moore and Carriker...that's a loss, but we have great depth. Our LBS will be a year older and more experienced. Our DBs will be tons better with the emergence of Thenarse and the return of Bowman. Maybe you've heard of Bowman....he tore up his knee preseason, but is our resident stud DB...he'll be back next year and ready to go. The defense overall will be better next year.
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By who? Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.
Here he is listed as a Top 5 QB prospect with Quinn and Stanton. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9370926
Here he is listed as a potential first rounder:
If Keller loses significant time to 2005 NCAA pass-efficiency leader Rudy Carpenter this year, he’ll be a second-day pick in ’07. Though he doesn’t have the mobility of his sophomore counterpart, we like the senior’s chances of getting the majority of field time, and with a productive, healthy ‘06 campaign, the strong-armed Keller could crack the first round. He's plenty 'efficient' himself. The 6-4/229 signal-caller got off to a hot start last season, throwing 20 TD passes and just nine INTs before tearing a ligament in his thumb and missing the final five contests. A healthy Keller is a highly-intriguing NFL prospect, and he’s reportedly 100% this spring.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=CFB&majteam=FL&columnid=55&article=21019
You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense. You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.
Are you serious? We lose our DEs, Moore and Carriker...that's a loss, but we have great depth. Our LBS will be a year older and more experienced. Our DBs will be tons better with the emergence of Thenarse and the return of Bowman. Maybe you've heard of Bowman....he tore up his knee preseason, but is our resident stud DB...he'll be back next year and ready to go. The defense overall will be better next year.
You realize that those articles were written in the Spring right? You realize they were under the assumption that he'd play this year right?
Do you realize that when he transferred, that his value was erased? Now you're telling me he's going to pick up where he left off and just cruise to a new draft order?
You make me laugh.
You're not that deep. Nothing you showed in the game against KSU demonstrated you had any depth.
You're just spanking your monkey a little too much.
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Hos value is erased? Yeah...the fact that he put up big numbers against teams like LSU and USC just disappeared. The fact that he had top-flight NFL talent just vanished once he transferred. :lol:
You're an idiot. He's here in Lincoln running the scout team, and learning the offense. He'll be ready to go next spring, and will lead the Huskers to a Top 10 finish and a BCS Bowl.
:flush: K-State!!!
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Hos value is erased? Yeah...the fact that he put up big numbers against teams like LSU and USC just disappeared. The fact that he had top-flight NFL talent just vanished once he transferred. :lol:
Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR. Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year. Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.
You're an idiot. He's here in Lincoln running the scout team, and learning the offense. He'll be ready to go next spring, and will lead the Huskers to a Top 10 finish and a BCS Bowl.
:flush: K-State!!!
Yeah, I heard this before. You all thought Callahan was going to take Nebraska to the NC game this year. That ain't gonna happen. I doubt you win the north.
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Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR. Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year. Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.
Are you slow or something? Keller will start for NU next year and lead them to a BCS berth. He has 1st round NFL talent, whether at ASU or NU, and will be in a position to show it off. We get virtually our entire receiving corps back. It'll be an amazingly explosive offense.
So Keller won't be coming off a year on the bench and into the draft. He'll be coming off a year as the starter for one of the most prolific offenses in college football.
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Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR. Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year. Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.
Are you slow or something? Keller will start for NU next year and lead them to a BCS berth. He has 1st round NFL talent, whether at ASU or NU, and will be in a position to show it off. We get virtually our entire receiving corps back. It'll be an amazingly explosive offense.
So Keller won't be coming off a year on the bench and into the draft. He'll be coming off a year as the starter for one of the most prolific offenses in college football.
No, I'm not slow, you're delusional.
Show me draft order after he plays. If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.
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Tearing up the scout team.
Outstanding!!
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Show me draft order after he plays.
Will do.
If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.
Based on what? Taylor's the only one he's brought in and developed, and he's playing well.
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Show me draft order after he plays.
Will do.
If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.
Based on what? Taylor's the only one he's brought in and developed, and he's playing well.
Not really, not as well as he could be. He's not lighting up the field.
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Not really, not as well as he could be. He's not lighting up the field.
Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs. The Huskers are 6-1.
That's a very efficient performance, with an average of 221 passing yards, 2 TDs, and .29 INTs a game...mind you that's for a team running the ball a lot. He's managing games for us, avoiding mistakes, and making big plays as needed. Taylor's a good QB.
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Not really, not as well as he could be. He's not lighting up the field.
Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs. The Huskers are 6-1.
That's a very efficient performance, with an average of 221 passing yards, 2 TDs, and .29 INTs a game...mind you that's for a team running the ball a lot. He's managing games for us, avoiding mistakes, and making big plays as needed. Taylor's a good QB.
In that context, probably doing as well as any quarterback that's had a year or so in the system, especially where NU has returned to the ground game.
Efficient, yes, but not phenominal, and not against better competition. His averages were lowered when he played KSU, not that he had to actually go in and save the game either.
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Keller 1st round talent???????
yea, cause I would bench 1st round talent too.....kinda like Keller was benched at ASU
with your kind of reasoning Freeman will be the #1 overall pick when he comes out in 3 years
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they're hiding taylor when they don't even let him throw when the game's on the line.
or you could realize that there is a freshman and a sophomore qb in the big 12 that have better ratings than taylor.
and another sophomore that is carrying is actually carrying his team, and not just baggage that needs to be protected.
you twerps are @#%$ stupid.
Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard. No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make. Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU. Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out. :nahnah:
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Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard. No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make. Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU. Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out. :nahnah:
already said i wasn't talking about the ksu game.
when your team is down 2 scores in the fourth quarter, and your qb attempts two passes....there are two possible explanations:
1. the coaching staff is chit stupid
2. the coaching staff is hiding the qb
and whichever of those you choose, it still means you're a fuggin' moron.
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Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard. No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make. Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU. Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out. :nahnah:
already said i wasn't talking about the ksu game.
when your team is down 2 scores in the fourth quarter, and your qb attempts two passes....there are two possible explanations:
1. the coaching staff is chit stupid
2. the coaching staff is hiding the qb
and whichever of those you choose, it still means you're a fuggin' moron.
Okay coitus interruptus, I choose neither. Where's my gold star? :D I think we both need a drink.