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Title: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: TAFNA Dude on July 18, 2009, 06:50:17 PM
Discuss.

07-08
Beasley
Walker
Pullen
Stewart
Sutton
Kent
Colon
Brown
Anderson

09-10
Judge
Samuels
McGruder
Kelly
Colon
Pullen
Clemente
Sutton
Russell
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: doom on July 18, 2009, 07:51:33 PM
Discuss.

07-08
Beasley
Walker
Pullen
Stewart
Sutton
Kent
Colon
Brown
Anderson

09-10
Judge
Samuels
McGruder
Kelly
Colon
Pullen
Clemente
Sutton
Russell


Good question because if you match them side by side imo:
Beasley   > Judge
Walker    > Samuels
Pullen    < Pullen as a Jr.
Stewart  < Clemente
Sutton    < Sutton as a Jr.
Kent       > Henriquez
Colon      < Colon as a Sr.
Brown     < McGruder
Anderson < Kelly
Young     < Pullen

I tried to compare talent.  I put Pullen in twice because he was on the 08 team but will compare to Young also as probable starting 2 guard.  If Kelly is worth his salt and battles Colon for that starting spot I really like this team.  I think there is much more usable depth.  The starting five for 07-08 had more talent but the 09-10 team is much more complete and evenly talented where our front court (Beaz and Walker) was the only thing keeping us afloat in 07-08.  I'd take this team over 08-07. 
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: catdude33 on July 18, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
07-08 had superior talent at the top obviously but dropped off rather sharply.  09-10 will not have the talent at the top but will be deeper and more balanced.  07-08 probably better.  I don't know.
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: Legore on July 18, 2009, 08:56:07 PM
I think 09-10 should be better.  Much deeper, much more experienced so much better in the back court it's not even funny.  Don't have a Beasley but more depth of talent.   Of course the 07-09 team had a killer injury when Dave Hoskins never played a single minute.  That team was better on paper at this time of the year then what it ended up being.  If the 09-10 team stays healthy I think it can be pretty good. 
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: kcchiefdav on July 18, 2009, 09:13:33 PM
I think it's pretty easy to say next years team will be better, but our best player will not be as good.
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: feralchat on July 18, 2009, 11:45:10 PM
Guard play will be much, much better. Next year's team should also be much better defensively with better depth
But yeah the Hoskins' injury was a killer. It took a second team all-league senior off the court -- would be akin to Clemente going down before the first game.

Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: doom on July 19, 2009, 12:35:44 AM
Guard play will be much, much better. Next year's team should also be much better defensively with better depth
But yeah the Hoskins' injury was a killer. It took a second team all-league senior off the court -- would be akin to Clemente going down before the first game.



If that happens we will all personally blame you. 
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: Pike on July 19, 2009, 05:37:51 AM
We better have a good showing in the non con games this year. That alone would prove that we're a better team then the last 3 seasons. Plus, our failure to do anything in the non-con has kept us out of the tournament 2/3 years so it's practically a must do.
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: doom on July 19, 2009, 10:18:18 AM
We better have a good showing in the non con games this year. That alone would prove that we're a better team then the last 3 seasons. Plus, our failure to do anything in the non-con has kept us out of the tournament 2/3 years so it's practically a must do.

Actually what has kept us out has been our SOS, which is now going to be fairly solid.  I think we have the potential to do really well against our schedule which is the difference between this year's team and previous years. 
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: raquetcat on July 20, 2009, 10:24:34 PM
Guard play will be much, much better. Next year's team should also be much better defensively with better depth
But yeah the Hoskins' injury was a killer. It took a second team all-league senior off the court -- would be akin to Clemente going down before the first game.



If that happens we will all personally blame you. 

QFT, I'm just waiting for a KITN, and this seems about right. The 09-10 team has much better guards (sorry clent) and the college game is a guard game
Title: Re: Which team is better? The 2007-2008 team or the 2009-2010 team?
Post by: jaa1025 on July 21, 2009, 01:20:22 AM
Beasley and Walker would be #1 and #2 as we all agree.

But after that, there is no comparison. This years team will be much better and deeper. Our guard play in 07/08 was awful and cost us big time in the second round among other games. Down low we don't have Beasley, but we've got 3 guys that are better than anyone else we've had down there in recent memory.