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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: DrJamesANaismith on May 30, 2009, 01:21:08 PM
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http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/05/28/prince-no-more-candy-4-u/
The legendary Kougar24 gets quoted as well!
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Sensational journalism. Go away JoPo.
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I'm utterly shocked that Posnanski's insightful take on the corruption hasn't gotten more play with you kids over here.
I suppose if you ignore it, it'll just go away huh?
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I'm utterly shocked that Posnanski's insightful take on the corruption hasn't gotten more play with you kids over here.
I suppose if you ignore it, it'll just go away huh?
You are absolutely horrible at fishing. If this were bible times, you'd starve.
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I'm utterly shocked that Posnanski's insightful take on the corruption hasn't gotten more play with you kids over here.
I suppose if you ignore it, it'll just go away huh?
OMFG I can't believe we had those boobs running our AD! GAWD!!! (http://www.lastweek.com)
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Stalksmith feeling more and more at home here.
Be careful kids, don't challange the little guy too much, he'll follow you all over the freaking Internet, closing down the library every night watching what you're doing.
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I'm utterly shocked that Posnanski's insightful take on the corruption hasn't gotten more play with you kids over here.
I suppose if you ignore it, it'll just go away huh?
OMFG I can't believe we had those boobs running our AD! GAWD!!! (http://www.lastweek.com)
lol
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http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/05/28/prince-no-more-candy-4-u/
The legendary Kougar24 gets quoted as well!
:cyclist: :peek:
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My apologies, there were 3 posters on this board mentioned in the article and the reader comments.
back to my coffee :users:
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Stalksmith may have a point, we never discussed how Krause did this all by himself.
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40843.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40886.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40856.0
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My apologies, there were 3 posters on this board mentioned in the article and the reader comments.
back to my coffee :users:
Long way to go if you want to be considered one of the "elite" ku posters on this board.
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My apologies, there were 3 posters on this board mentioned in the article and the reader comments.
back to my coffee :users:
Long way to go if you want to be considered one of the "elite" ku posters on this board.
42yard is miles in front of this guy
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BTW does anyone at Virginia know about this?
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BTW does anyone at Virginia know about this?
Could work to his benefit actually.
Like, hey if I was able to sneak $3.2 million from a university without them knowing imagine what I could have sneaking through the o-line on a punt.
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BTW does anyone at Virginia know about this?
Could work to his benefit actually.
Like, hey if I was able to sneak $3.2 million from a university without them knowing imagine what I could have sneaking through the o-line on a punt.
lol nice post
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BTW does anyone at Virginia know about this?
This is where one would send in all their investigative reporters to each press conference to ask only questions about the secret deal. :banghead:
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Seriously a great story for Nightline or Outside the Lines or some other investigatory show with the word line in it.
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Massive corruption with K-State athletics. Daxipad's still a fan... regardless of massive corruption. How ironic.
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Bentard at this juncture you're trying way too hard.
It's kind of, well, sad really.
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Yes, yes . . . nothing like paying recruits to build a football program, with money that won't be around for another SIX YEARS.
Love the comments by the one tard that saying that I would say that Lew Perkins would do something like this . . . Lew isn't that dumb.
Bentard and DocStalksmith . . . together couldn't make a fart at a bean eating contest.
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Posted: Yesterday 3:38 PM
Re: JoPo weighs in on Krause
My theory? K-State tried to get creative in finding ways to pay recruits and current players, so they established a multi-million dollar fund off the books. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Posted: Yesterday 3:43 PM
Re: JoPo weighs in on Krause
----BMWJhawk wrote: ---------------
My theory? K-State tried to get creative in finding ways to pay recruits and current players, so they established a multi-million dollar fund off the books. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Say, you don't suppose some of your theorized money found it's way to the DC area do you, speaking of desperation ....
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Gee willikers daxitive, why'd you have to go an copy that? I'm so embarrassed.
Would someone give this little fellow a valium?
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Gee willikers daxitive, why'd you have to go an copy that? I'm so embarrassed.
Would someone give this little fellow a valium?
Why can't you discuss it here DocStalkSmith?? Why do you always have to go back over there like a couple of little school girls and hide behind Tommy Wushuck Light's ban-o-matic??
Tardville has an open playing field over here you know.
But again, you have to admire the logic behind thinking that money that wasn't even going to be doled out for another 6 years would somehow impact recruiting now or in the next couple of years.
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Make up your mind little fellow:
Stalksmith may have a point, we never discussed how Krause did this all by himself.
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40843.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40886.0
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=40856.0
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Why can't you discuss it here DocStalkSmith?? Why do you always have to go back over there like a couple of little school girls and hide behind Tommy Wushuck Light's ban-o-matic??
Tardville has an open playing field over here you know.
But again, you have to admire the logic behind thinking that money that wasn't even going to be doled out for another 6 years would somehow impact recruiting now or in the next couple of years.
I can see how your love affair with BMW has taken a turn for the worse. You're just so confused
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Doc . . . you're just another Tardvillian who tries way too hard over here.
Now . . . if you've got some sort of conspiracy theory, spill it here . . . all are welcome, all are welcome.
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discuss amongst yourselves:
2. I cannot come close to figuring out why the school would give Prince this money. I mean I’m not even close to figuring it out. Prince was, at best, a mediocre football coach without much support in the community. I can’t even figure out why they put a $1.2 million buyout in his contract, much less why this would come up. My only theories involve extreme, extreme corruption — kickbacks, lies or an attempt to cover up something so heinous that it would be worth $3.2 million to cover it up.
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discuss amongst yourselves:
2. I cannot come close to figuring out why the school would give Prince this money. I mean I’m not even close to figuring it out. Prince was, at best, a mediocre football coach without much support in the community. I can’t even figure out why they put a $1.2 million buyout in his contract, much less why this would come up. My only theories involve extreme, extreme corruption — kickbacks, lies or an attempt to cover up something so heinous that it would be worth $3.2 million to cover it up.
wtf is there to discuss? no one understands it. much like when wynona ryder was caught stealing stuff. it's like "hey, wynona, you're rich, you don't need to steal" but she did anyways. stupid people do stupid things. maybe ron and bob had a more than platonic male relationship....maybe bob liked having a strong black(ish) man hold him...maybe In Pursuit of Perfection was a little inside joke/pillow talk between ron and bob...and this was going to be gettaway money...Ron and Bob would leave their wife and kids and they could go retire some place in the bahamas where they could just share each other's company...ron could read his books of history on the beach while he watched Bob frolic on the ocean shore.
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discuss amongst yourselves:
2. I cannot come close to figuring out why the school would give Prince this money. I mean I’m not even close to figuring it out. Prince was, at best, a mediocre football coach without much support in the community. I can’t even figure out why they put a $1.2 million buyout in his contract, much less why this would come up. My only theories involve extreme, extreme corruption — kickbacks, lies or an attempt to cover up something so heinous that it would be worth $3.2 million to cover it up.
wtf is there to discuss? no on understands it. much like when wynona ryder was caught stealing stuff. it's like "hey, wynona, you're rich, you don't need to steal" but she did anyways. stupid people do stupid things. maybe ron and bob had a more than platonic male relationship....maybe bob liked having a strong black(ish) man hold him...maybe In Pursuit of Perfection was a little inside joke/pillow talk between ron and bob...and this was going to be gettaway money...Ron and Bob would leave their wife and kids and they could go retire some place in the bahamas where they could just share each other's company...ron could read his books of history on the beach while he watched Bob frolic on the ocean shore.
maybe bob forged a will for ron that would give bob all of ron's money and bob was planning on killing him in 2018.
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ron prince and bob krause ... i thought it was strange when i saw them holding hands
(http://www2.truman.edu/~ramberg/teaching/jins362/simpsonsaliens.gif)
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There are multiple schools of thought StalkSmith . . . of course the recruiting slushfund is the most dumbass one of them all, but hey it's Ben, so we'll give him a pass. Unless it was something like, "hey if you come to K-State in 2009 and you're good or Ron Prince can bang your girlfriend, in 2015 or thereabouts we'll give you some money."
1. Krause made the secret deal as a payoff to Prince for lobbying on his behalf to get him made the AD.
2. Weeper and Krause knew any type of large payoff would pi$$ everyone off, so they tried too backdoor it.
3. 1 and 2 coupled with the thought that Prince and Krause believed they would both still be at K-State in 2015 so it was some kind of "bonus" deal that Krause (and maybe Weeper) knew everyone would be pi$$ed off about. Considering that Snyder didn't get a $1 million annuity offer upon retirement until he was well on the way to turning around the football program.
4. 1-4 . . . They're just dumb people without a clue as to how the real world works.
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I sounds like you think Posnanski's well written expose was tongue-in-cheek then? No corruption at the top?
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I sounds like you think Posnanski's well written expose was tongue-in-cheek then? No corruption at the top?
Huh . . . yeah, I clearly think there was no corruption. I've been such a huge fan of President Weefer over the years and all. :rolleyes:
It's just not the type of corruption you and Tardville want to think it is, unless you and Tardville actually want to believe that the money was going to somehow trickle back to recruits and players SIX YEARS from now, or in the case of this agreement execution SEVEN YEARS later. You know what long term thinkers your average 18-22 year old is these days.
I am fully open to the possibility that Bob may have thought there was no way his rocky marriage into the Vanier family was going to last, so he tried set up a cozy little nest egg . . . and I also know that Tardville with Hoax leading the charge (with the various lemmings like you swinging from his nut sack) have concocted some sort of "Prince knew something" scheme . . . which is kind of dumb, if you're still the regime in charge of that "something" you don't happen to "discover" those documents while you're still in the building. You bury them way deep and then play dumb when they're discovered three or four years down the line. But hey, given their track record, maybe they're not even smart enough to do that. Plus at this juncture, this involves the Regents as well, and there's no way in my mind the Regents are going to be party to playing along if there's serious NCAA infractions being covered up.
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I sounds like you think Posnanski's well written expose was tongue-in-cheek then? No corruption at the top?
Who the frank cares if there was corruption at the top, other than you and BMW? Everyone at the top is gone now.
If you're looking for some type of admission from KSU fans that Krause, Wefald and Prince were circus clowns, you're trying way too hard to get it, because its been out there for months now.
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Who the frank cares if there was corruption at the top, other than you and BMW? Everyone at the top is gone now.
Do you seriously think nobody cares if there was corruption and outright lies at the top? If there was, the fact that they will soon be gone is irrelevant. I agree with Posnanski though. $3.2M is way more than the lone-gunman theory that Meeks would have one believe. Maybe 500K ... but now $3.2M.
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It is fully and absolutely possible that Bob Krause did this on his own . . . sure you can argue and have a leg to stand on that Weefer and others were involved, but on the other side . . . it's not impossible at all in this day and age for a lawyer and a willing executive to concoct a silly little side agreement like this. It's entirely possible that Bob thought he'd be around while and it's entirely possible Krause thought that he'd weld so much power because of all the grandiose plans he had and thought he could execute on . . . that he could sneak in a nice little chunk of change into the budget with 6 or 7 years to work on it. Stupid, but not out of the question.
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Who the frank cares if there was corruption at the top, other than you and BMW? Everyone at the top is gone now.
Do you seriously think nobody cares if there was corruption and outright lies at the top? If there was, the fact that they will soon be gone is irrelevant. I agree with Posnanski though. $3.2M is way more than the lone-gunman theory that Meeks would have one believe. Maybe 500K ... but now $3.2M.
I'm sure there are a bunch of powertards that are threatening to (or already have) cut off their donations, and obvioulsy plenty of ku fans are extremely worried about "corruption and outright lies", but I'm sorry to tell you that Kansas State University and its athletic department are going to continue to exist for the foreseeable future.
Is it a set back? Of course. Is it embarassing? No doubt. Would it be nice to have that $3.2M to put toward a better cause? Absolutely. But Krause is gone; Wefald is gone; and Prince is gone. I'm not sure what good it will do anyone to uncover the great conspiracy theory at this point, other than to initiate a huge circle jerk on the ku boards.
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actually read it ... twice. trying to figure out what was exposed by this "expose"?
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Who the frank cares if there was corruption at the top, other than you and BMW? Everyone at the top is gone now.
Do you seriously think nobody cares if there was corruption and outright lies at the top? If there was, the fact that they will soon be gone is irrelevant. I agree with Posnanski though. $3.2M is way more than the lone-gunman theory that Meeks would have one believe. Maybe 500K ... but now $3.2M.
We can't exactly fire some people again...kneecappings? :sport028:
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actually read it ... twice. trying to figure out what was exposed by this "expose"?
Good point. Expose might have been the wrong term to use, but Posnanski's the only writer so far that has the nads to write anything but a fluff piece about it. Meeks proposed a lone-gunman theory about Krause. Is Martin still covering KSU sports?
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Actually I think it was J'Mart who broke the story . . . he didn't Jason King the issue if that's what you're saying Stalksmith.
But lets see, outside of absolute speculation what can they say?? Prince isn't talking, Krause isn't talking. I know the tinfoil hat world of Tardville is easy for public Internet access simpletons like you to subscribe to . . . but come on chief.
JoPo (the writer not the coach . . . hint- ksufans.com inside joke, ask BMW about it) was on a freaking BLOG.
I'll wait a few hours for your response while you monitor the other K-State boards and pm the usual suspects in Tardville for help.
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Any public access to the Riley County district court records? An answer should be filed soon. I wonder who has the nads to ultimately write a story about it.
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Any public access to the Riley County district court records? An answer should be filed soon. I wonder who has the nads to ultimately write a story about it.
Here's a preview of the soon-to-be-filed answer: "Defendant does not have enough knowledge or information to admit or deny the allegations of Paragraph ____, and therefore denies the same." Maybe Jayhox can confirm with his sources at KC lawfirms.
Did I miss your point, or are you really saying that the local writers won't write/haven't written derogatory stories about KSU and this mess? You're trying way too hard. Whitlock will unload with both barrels soon enough, I'm sure. He's probably just waiting for some actual facts to surface, rather than coming off as a weirdo conspiracy theorist.
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Any public access to the Riley County district court records? An answer should be filed soon. I wonder who has the nads to ultimately write a story about it.
There's public access if you go the courthouse . . . and given that you seemingly have hours upon hours on your hands, why don't you drive on over and check it out STALKsmith??
So the real question is . . . who on the K-State beat is the exact opposite of anyone covering ku at the Star, CJ, or Eagle.
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Here's a preview of the soon-to-be-filed answer: "Defendant does not have enough knowledge or information to admit or deny the allegations of Paragraph ____, and therefore denies the same." Maybe Jayhox can confirm with his sources at KC lawfirms.
Did I miss your point, or are you really saying that the local writers won't write/haven't written derogatory stories about KSU and this mess? You're trying way too hard. Whitlock will unload with both barrels soon enough, I'm sure. He's probably just waiting for some actual facts to surface, rather than coming off as a weirdo conspiracy theorist.
You're probably right, it will be someone like Whitlock that covers this one. This one should be a doozy.