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Title: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 21, 2009, 02:15:43 PM
Awaji, Brown to Transfer



MANHATTAN, Kan. ? Junior guard Buchi Awaji and sophomore guard Fred Brown have been released from their athletic scholarships at Kansas State and will transfer to other institutions,
head men’s basketball Frank Martin announced on Thursday.



“Buchi and Fred have decided to continue their playing careers at other schools,” said Martin. “We appreciate their contributions to the program and wish them the best in the future.”



A 6-foot-5, 185-pound junior from Los Angeles, Calif., Awaji averaged 4.0 points on 50 percent shooting this past season with 1.9 rebounds in 10.8 minutes per game. He scored in double figures four times, including a season-high 12 points against North Carolina Central on Feb. 17.



A 6-foot-2, 190-pound sophomore from West Palm Beach, Fla., Brown averaged 8.1 points on 42.1 percent shooting this past season with 1.6 rebounds and 1.3 assists in 20.4 minutes per game. He was a part of the first trio (along with Denis Clemente and Jacob Pullen) in school history to each tally 50 or more 3-pointers in a single season. He saw time in 61 games in his two-year career with two starts, averaging 6.2 points on 41.4 percent shooting.


Both finished the spring semester in solid academic standing with Awaji graduating with a social science degree from the university last weekend.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: DS43 on May 21, 2009, 02:18:29 PM
Smokin' Fred Brown will always be my favorite Wildcat.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 21, 2009, 02:21:31 PM
meh.

just wish we had one guy that could come off the bench and be nails from behind the 3pt. line.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 21, 2009, 02:21:43 PM
That sucks (about Fred).  Buchi can GTFO.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Bhyaaaaa! on May 21, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
Peterson had better show up
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: catzacker on May 21, 2009, 02:23:38 PM
 :curse:

it's like frank hates people that can shoot.  
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 21, 2009, 02:25:01 PM
Now for the real question: ayone know what kind of future LLC deal they got? 
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: CrimsonBlue on May 21, 2009, 02:25:46 PM
Way to pull a kid's scholarship right before June, Frank.  Really gives those kids a lot of time to find another school.    



 :flush:
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Rick Daris on May 21, 2009, 02:26:26 PM
the latest smokescreen trying to convince people brown is leaving. sorry, not buying it folks.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2009, 02:35:07 PM
Way to pull a kid's scholarship right before June, Frank.  Really gives those kids a lot of time to find another school.    



 :flush:

This has been known for months.  This isn't just now happening.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: FHSU92 on May 21, 2009, 02:38:03 PM
Peterson and Latavious had better show up

fyp 
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: catzacker on May 21, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
so we're trading awaji/brown for irving/pete?  two guys who can shoot for two guys that can't.  I'm fine with losing Awaji, not Fred.  We just lost the only two players who shoot >40% from 3, and there's absolutely zero chance either irving or pete come close to shooting 30% from 3. 
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: treysolid on May 21, 2009, 02:46:42 PM
losing fred (which i'm not so sure i like) does open up a spot for freddy.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: mrfreddio55 on May 21, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Heard someone talking on the phone on the shuttle to class a few months ago talking about Brown. Said ever since '"the shot" against Texas he got all cocky, wasn't hitting the gym.  :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: Bye Bucchi . . . bye Fred.
Post by: bigDcat on May 21, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
kinda bugged me.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Pett on May 21, 2009, 03:17:46 PM
No Fred. Please say it ain't so.

I knew that soon these transfers were gonna catch up to us and bite us in the ass...

I'm fine with all of them except for this one. :-[
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: RockyMtnCat on May 21, 2009, 03:37:35 PM
room for Devon Peterson and Freddie Asprilla!*



x
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: slucat on May 21, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
Frack you Martin.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Andy on May 21, 2009, 04:18:50 PM
so we're trading awaji/brown for irving/pete?  two guys who can shoot for two guys that can't.  I'm fine with losing Awaji, not Fred.  We just lost the only two players who shoot >40% from 3, and there's absolutely zero chance either irving or pete come close to shooting 30% from 3. 

meh the 3 is fools gold anyway






 :blindfold:
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: TheWildcat on May 21, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
 :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:

Good luck guys
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: kstatefan11 on May 21, 2009, 04:32:50 PM
Quote
so we're trading awaji/brown for irving/pete?  two guys who can shoot for two guys that can't.  I'm fine with losing Awaji, not Fred.  We just lost the only two players who shoot >40% from 3, and there's absolutely zero chance either irving or pete come close to shooting 30% from 3.

do some research next time
http://www.maxpreps.com/florida/basketball/anderson-(lauderdale-lakes)/stats.aspx?gendersport=boys,basketball&schoolid=072165f1-3d97-4f38-b2d0-e6f8ec37aa03&urpath=,local,team (http://www.maxpreps.com/florida/basketball/anderson-(lauderdale-lakes)/stats.aspx?gendersport=boys,basketball&schoolid=072165f1-3d97-4f38-b2d0-e6f8ec37aa03&urpath=,local,team)
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3741417 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3741417)
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: sys on May 21, 2009, 04:53:46 PM
Frack you Martin.

i don't see how you can blame anyone but yourself for awaji.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: yosh on May 21, 2009, 05:35:24 PM
so we're trading awaji/brown for irving/pete?  two guys who can shoot for two guys that can't.  I'm fine with losing Awaji, not Fred.  We just lost the only two players who shoot >40% from 3, and there's absolutely zero chance either irving or pete come close to shooting 30% from 3. 

no.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: catzacker on May 21, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
Quote
so we're trading awaji/brown for irving/pete?  two guys who can shoot for two guys that can't.  I'm fine with losing Awaji, not Fred.  We just lost the only two players who shoot >40% from 3, and there's absolutely zero chance either irving or pete come close to shooting 30% from 3.

do some research next time
http://www.maxpreps.com/florida/basketball/anderson-(lauderdale-lakes)/stats.aspx?gendersport=boys,basketball&schoolid=072165f1-3d97-4f38-b2d0-e6f8ec37aa03&urpath=,local,team (http://www.maxpreps.com/florida/basketball/anderson-(lauderdale-lakes)/stats.aspx?gendersport=boys,basketball&schoolid=072165f1-3d97-4f38-b2d0-e6f8ec37aa03&urpath=,local,team)
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3741417 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3741417)

are you f'ing sh*tting me? 

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=73349&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d73349%26season%3d2009 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=73349&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d73349%26season%3d2009)
Quote from: ESPN Insider
December, 2008: This strong and physical guard has an NFL body. He sprints the lane in transition and can get to the rim or spot up for the open three. He is a streaky shooter from behind the arc at best but when his feet are set he can make you pay. Irving can drive both ways but he seems to favor the right side of the floor. He attacks the basket with a baseline drive or mid range pull up if the spot up three is not available. He drives and finishes through contact with ease because of his tremendous strength. If the on ball defender is not in position he will be knocked out of the play. Irving is a great on ball defender that possess excellent lateral foot speed and quickness. He uses his body well to knock weaker players off the ball when they meet body to body and is capable of defending all three perimeter positions. Irving plays with good energy and passion on both ends of the floor.

yeah, I'm sure that translate well to the Big 12 as a freshman.  He may get to Fred's % by the time he's a soph or junior, but he's not shooting that next year, which is what the team needs next year.  I should have said above 35%, he'll probably be right at 30%. 
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: mcmwcat on May 21, 2009, 05:52:45 PM
neither can dribble or defend and are good but not great 3 pt shooters at about 42%.  not sure where they'd fit into next year's team anyway.  specially buchi.  brown would be nice to have when the offense is slumping but would not want him on the floor for any other reason.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: kstatefan11 on May 21, 2009, 06:02:50 PM
Quote
He is a streaky shooter from behind the arc at best


who made this assement someone who wathced him play one or two games?

Also fred shot 39% as a senior in florida high school basketball

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3087&SPID=213&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1287644&Q_SEASON=2007 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3087&SPID=213&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1287644&Q_SEASON=2007)

Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: icatmember on May 21, 2009, 06:30:15 PM
Aaaaaaaand &@#% this
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: catzacker on May 21, 2009, 06:54:44 PM
Quote
He is a streaky shooter from behind the arc at best


who made this assement someone who wathced him play one or two games?

Also fred shot 39% as a senior in florida high school basketball

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3087&SPID=213&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1287644&Q_SEASON=2007 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3087&SPID=213&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=1287644&Q_SEASON=2007)

I'm not saying that he couldn't end up being >40% in college, but I highly doubt he is one right away, and with the departure of both Fred and Awaji, this team needs a guy like that desperately next year.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: sys on May 21, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
I should have said above 35%, he'll probably be right at 30%. 

that's probably about right.  irving is a better recruit that brown, imo.  but only slightly and he's 2 years behind.  no question that brown would have helped more over the next two years.

it is disappointing.  i was holding out a forlorn hope that one of awaji/brown would decide to come back.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: Winters on May 21, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crybaby:
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: BigCat on May 22, 2009, 02:51:55 AM
Goodbye Buchi. For at least one year, you were the only guy on the team with NBA talent. Look forward to seeing you lighting up sportscenter sometime soon for a solid pro squad. God Bless and sorry bout my language in front of your grandma. :frown:
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2009, 08:53:31 AM
God Bless and sorry bout my language in front of your grandma. :frown:

explain in detail
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: doom on May 22, 2009, 05:39:23 PM
God Bless and sorry bout my language in front of your grandma. :frown:

explain in detail

It's in another thread from a few months ago. 
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2009, 11:20:37 PM
God Bless and sorry bout my language in front of your grandma. :frown:

explain in detail

It's in another thread from a few months ago. 

damnit.  This usually happens to other people.
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: doom on May 23, 2009, 09:38:15 AM
God Bless and sorry bout my language in front of your grandma. :frown:

explain in detail

It's in another thread from a few months ago. 

damnit.  This usually happens to other people.

I know.  You are slipping.  When you type "buchi" and "grandma" into a search only two threads come up.  This one and

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=38976.0 (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=38976.0)
Title: Re: By Bucchi . . . by Fred.
Post by: PowercatPat on May 23, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
Both will be missed. Why can't we get Merriwhether and Colon to leave?