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Title: I was wondering?
Post by: wildcatlou on May 15, 2009, 10:03:13 AM
Do you guys think Judge will get the nod over JamSam this season? :users:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2009, 10:08:11 AM
Jamar has said he will play the 3 some....though I'm not excited about the prospect given he can't shoot.....though neither can Dom so whatevs....
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 15, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
If he's a legit Top 15-20 player, he should.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: bam8485 on May 15, 2009, 10:30:17 AM
Jam Sam and Judge can both play the 3 or 4 so they could be in the game at the same time. It will be interesting to see the lineups next year but you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time. :ksu:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: sys on May 15, 2009, 10:39:40 AM
you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time.

 :yuck:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: wildcatlou on May 15, 2009, 11:38:38 AM
I think Judge and Samuals on the floor would be a bad thing. On the other hand I'm excited to see Sutton and Macgruder playing at the same time.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
I think Judge and Samuals on the floor would be a bad thing. On the other hand I'm excited to see Sutton and Macgruder playing at the same time.

I would like to see Rodney playing the 3.  I don't like having a 3 on the court that can't shoot. 
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: wildcatlou on May 15, 2009, 11:59:46 AM
Yeah, I believe most of the time he should be at the Three behind Sutton. I just like to think if they are really pushing the tempo, it would be nice to have Clemente or Pullen, Macgruder, Sutton, Samuals or Judge, and Kelly out there at the same time. Use all the athletes we have, and just try to run the open court.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: catzacker on May 15, 2009, 12:11:01 PM
you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time.

 :yuck:


I second that  :yuck: and raise you a  :barf:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: doom on May 15, 2009, 10:24:11 PM
you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time.

 :yuck:


I second that  :yuck: and raise you a  :barf:

I wouldn't call it a good starting lineup, but could work with Wally at the three.  He could handle Henry at the position, so I think for small amounts of time it wouldn't suck if you had
1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Wally
4-Jamar
5-Curtis

Starting lineup should be somewhere around this

1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Dom
4-Luis (Frank will start him for some crapty loyalty reasons)
5-Kelly (or Luis)

By Conference I would say Wally takes the 4 and depending upon ability Curtis could lose his spot to Colon, if he didn't from the onset.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: yoman on May 15, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time.

 :yuck:


I second that  :yuck: and raise you a  :barf:

I wouldn't call it a good starting lineup, but could work with Wally at the three.  He could handle Henry at the position, so I think for small amounts of time it wouldn't suck if you had
1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Wally
4-Jamar
5-Curtis

Starting lineup should be somewhere around this

1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Dom
4-Luis (Frank will start him for some crapty loyalty reasons)
5-Kelly (or Luis)

By Conference I would say Wally takes the 4 and depending upon ability Curtis could lose his spot to Colon, if he didn't from the onset.
if wally doesnt start over luis i will drive my white angry ass up to manhattan, find frank, and proceed to repetidly kick him in the testicles. there is absolutly no reason this team's best player (maybe second to clemente) shouldn't start.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on May 15, 2009, 11:03:05 PM
you could have kelly, judge, and samuels on the floor at the same time.

 :yuck:


I second that  :yuck: and raise you a  :barf:

I wouldn't call it a good starting lineup, but could work with Wally at the three.  He could handle Henry at the position, so I think for small amounts of time it wouldn't suck if you had
1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Wally
4-Jamar
5-Curtis

Starting lineup should be somewhere around this

1-Denis
2-Jake
3-Dom
4-Luis (Frank will start him for some crapty loyalty reasons)
5-Kelly (or Luis)

By Conference I would say Wally takes the 4 and depending upon ability Curtis could lose his spot to Colon, if he didn't from the onset.
if wally doesnt start over luis i will drive my white angry ass up to manhattan, find frank, and proceed to repetidly kick him in the testicles. there is absolutly no reason this team's best player (maybe second to clemente) shouldn't start.

it's safe to say that you aren't much of a eric spoelstra fan then?    :banghead:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: Cougar2k on May 15, 2009, 11:21:39 PM
small teams are gonna give us fits
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: sys on May 15, 2009, 11:30:41 PM
this team's best player (maybe second to clemente).

he'll be a freshman.  he's not beasley.  analysts say his best attribute is athleticism and "upside".
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: ksudrew on May 16, 2009, 09:04:58 AM
it's safe to say that you aren't much of a eric spoelstra fan then?    :banghead:

 :rofl: :ksu:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: yoman on May 16, 2009, 11:01:52 AM
it's safe to say that you aren't much of a eric spoelstra fan then?    :banghead:
how'd you know?
this team's best player (maybe second to clemente).

he'll be a freshman.  he's not beasley.  analysts say his best attribute is athleticism and "upside".
yeah...if he is the 17th best player in the country though, he is MUCH MUCH better than Colon. And if Frank doesn't realize it, then he needs to pull his head out of his ass.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: sys on May 16, 2009, 11:16:11 AM
yeah...if he is the 17th best player in the country.

he isn't.  he's considered to have the 17th most potential nba impact among hs seniors.


he is MUCH MUCH better than Colon. And if Frank doesn't realize it, then he needs to pull his head out of his ass.

he isn't competing with colon for a spot.  colon's minutes have about as much impact on judge's as clemente's.
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: yoman on May 16, 2009, 11:42:11 AM
yeah...if he is the 17th best player in the country.

he isn't.  he's considered to have the 17th most potential nba impact among hs seniors.


he is MUCH MUCH better than Colon. And if Frank doesn't realize it, then he needs to pull his head out of his ass.

he isn't competing with colon for a spot.  colon's minutes have about as much impact on judge's as clemente's.
he would if you put colon at the four spot (which was sugested above)
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: WildFan101 on May 16, 2009, 12:08:31 PM
Colon will never play the 4.
1. Clemente
2. Pullen
3. Sutton
4. Judge
5. Colon
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: wildcatlou on May 16, 2009, 12:24:15 PM
How will small teams give us fits??? I think we really match up well with them next year. It's the Pitman's and Aldrich's that scare me. :runaway:
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: doom on May 16, 2009, 12:31:39 PM
How will small teams give us fits??? I think we really match up well with them next year. It's the Pitman's and Aldrich's that scare me. :runaway:

Our guard depth is such that we cannot match up well with a Colorado type team that throws 4-5 guards at us and keep up pace.  Sure we have a good player at the 1 and 2 spots, but our bigger players will have to try to keep up with guards and it would be harder to do with our style of play since we don't want to feed the post in a half-court which would wear their guards thin with fouls. 

That being said, Sutton could play the four against those styles of teams for a few minutes and give us a reprieve if needed. 

Again, I said Co type team.  I'm more worried about a midmajor like Cleveland State than the buffs, but just that smallball idea. 
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: JTKSU on May 17, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
How will small teams give us fits??? I think we really match up well with them next year. It's the Pitman's and Aldrich's that scare me. :runaway:

Our guard depth is such that we cannot match up well with a Colorado type team that throws 4-5 guards at us and keep up pace.  Sure we have a good player at the 1 and 2 spots, but our bigger players will have to try to keep up with guards and it would be harder to do with our style of play since we don't want to feed the post in a half-court which would wear their guards thin with fouls. 

That being said, Sutton could play the four against those styles of teams for a few minutes and give us a reprieve if needed. 

Again, I said Co type team.  I'm more worried about a midmajor like Cleveland State than the buffs, but just that smallball idea. 

Did we graduate some guards that I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: doom on May 17, 2009, 11:16:19 AM
How will small teams give us fits??? I think we really match up well with them next year. It's the Pitman's and Aldrich's that scare me. :runaway:

Our guard depth is such that we cannot match up well with a Colorado type team that throws 4-5 guards at us and keep up pace.  Sure we have a good player at the 1 and 2 spots, but our bigger players will have to try to keep up with guards and it would be harder to do with our style of play since we don't want to feed the post in a half-court which would wear their guards thin with fouls. 

That being said, Sutton could play the four against those styles of teams for a few minutes and give us a reprieve if needed. 

Again, I said Co type team.  I'm more worried about a midmajor like Cleveland State than the buffs, but just that smallball idea. 

Did we graduate some guards that I'm not aware of?

We are most likely losing Buchi, and Dpete is not coming.  I've heard Fred's name out there as wanting to leave as well. 

That leaves
1-Clemente, Russell
2-Pullen, maybe Fred, Irving, McGruder

Not a lot of experienced depth past the starting spot. 
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: raquetcat on May 17, 2009, 04:08:35 PM
Can we expect henriquez to get 5 to 10 minutes a game, I don't see anyway they're gonna red shirt him imo, but it would be nice so he could put on weight
Title: Re: I was wondering?
Post by: wildcatlou on May 17, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
I'm hoping that Jordan can get 5 minutes a game in behind Kelly and Colon. I'm probably gonna make some people laugh, but I think big Lou is going to do some very good things for us this year if he only has to play 10-15 minutes a game. If I'm Frank, I'd say "hey Lou, go club someone". I think he could just play rough and foul like crazy!