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Come on, had K-State continued to suck in football, and had K-State not put the emphasis on football than nothing would've changed at ku.
Some AD beholden to the basketball coach would be over there running the show, 23,000 people (announced as 37,000) would be showing up for the games, except for the weekend that NU or OU came to town. The big event every other year would be the 35,000 that showed up for the "big" mu vs ku game in Lawrence . . . and half the crowd would've left at halftime to go drink beer regardless if ku was winning or losing (this still happens frequently).
So when does ku thank us for actually starting to give a frank about football??
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Don't lie, 'Pad. You just wanted an excuse to post that Mangino video, didn't you?
:yikes:
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:fiesta:
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Seriously, though. Roy Williams leaving ku was probably the best thing that could have happened to the football program. Not sure how much of ku's desire to win in football was fueled by K-State, but I'm sure there's some truth to that.
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Seriously, though. Roy Williams leaving ku was probably the best thing that could have happened to the football program. Not sure how much of ku's desire to win in football was fueled by K-State, but I'm sure there's some truth to that.
Best thing that happened to Roy too.
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LOL . . . . there was a reason ku hired Mark Mangino, and it had EVERYTHING to do with K-State . . . everything.
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I don't really think there's much infrastructure for the state of Kansas to have two good football teams at the same time, except in a freak occurrence of a year (1995). So yes, it's probably a good thing for Kansas that KSU got better at football as it finally got the administration to get off their asses and say "hey, we're actually closer to Kansas City than these fools, why can't we be good?", although I think that Roy leaving was still the deciding factor. He kinda had the athletic department by the balls.
BTW, LSUFreek is a god living among us.
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I don't really think there's much infrastructure for the state of Kansas to have two good football teams at the same time, except in a freak occurrence of a year (1995). So yes, it's probably a good thing for Kansas that KSU got better at football as it finally got the administration to get off their asses and say "hey, we're actually closer to Kansas City than these fools, why can't we be good?", although I think that Roy leaving was still the deciding factor. He kinda had the athletic department by the balls.
BTW, LSUFreek is a god living among us.
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Kansas City proximity had/will have zilcho to do with being succesful in this state....
If you have the coaching staff to get the talent then you will be successful. We once had that.
Bob Stoops drove down to Oklahoma and came back with Jeff Kelley in his car. Jeff was pretty much a Sooner recruit with Blake at the helm and Stoops was like, um, yeah no..you're coming to Kstate. I'll pick you up in a few days.
We had a great staff that new what in the hell they were doing. Outside of Bill, you really can't say that now, although I think Koenning has some good ideas.
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Sure there's room for 2 . . . don't be a Terry Allen tard.
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If ku wants it, ku gets it. Simple. Like BT and corndogs. Or pie. If I want that pie, I'm getting that f*cking pie.
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If ku wants it, ku gets it. Simple. Like BT and corndogs. Or pie. If I want that pie, I'm getting that f*cking pie.
pie = probation?
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If ku wants it, ku gets it. Simple. Like BT and corndogs. Or pie. If I want that pie, I'm getting that f*cking pie.
pie = probation?
No way, you silly bitch. Pie (or corndogs) = to be awesome at sh1t
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If ku wants it, ku gets it.
Like STD's and such.
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LOL . . . . there was a reason ku hired Mark Mangino, and it had EVERYTHING to do with K-State . . . everything.
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Personally, I believe it had more to do with improving ku football. ku athletics was losing out on an opportunity to cash in on the biggest revenue-generating sport in the country. Something would have been done, regardless of K-State.
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Okay then . . . good, solid phognet denial answer Ben. :thumbsup:
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Okay then . . . good, solid phognet denial answer Ben. :thumbsup:
Whoa, whoa, whoa... not denying that K-State's success might have played a role in improving the ku football program. I would love for ku football to experience an 11-year run like K-State had during DoD. I just don't think the hiring of Mangino had "everything" to do with K-State. ku was losing out on a ton of revenue by neglecting the football program.
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Umm . . . there were other coaches interested in the ku job, and several them were certainly more name worthy than Mark Mangino.
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Umm . . . there were other coaches interested in the ku job, and several them were certainly more name worthy than Mark Mangino.
Yeah, like Frachione, who was fired at A&M.
:rolleyes:
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Umm . . . there were other coaches interested in the ku job, and several them were certainly more name worthy than Mark Mangino.
This. If MM hadn't been at KSU and under BS, no way he gets the uk job. NO way in hell.
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Who would you tuffguys rather have as your coach: Snyder or Mangino?
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Who would you tuffguys rather have as your coach: Snyder or Mangino?
Manyder
Best of both.
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Good answer. I'm gonna keep my eye on you....
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Good answer. I'm gonna keep my eye on you....
You seem to really care...
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
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Only thing I thank K State for was banging those two sorority chicks who I told I was Trent Rezner so i could get in a threesome. Moral of the story, a month later I find out I have gonorrhea. So, thank yoK S Utate, I have gonorrhea and was able to cheat on my girlfriend and was able to have a threesome. Please, keep pumping out these sluts. Thank you.
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
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Only thing I thank K State for was banging those two sorority chicks who I told I was Trent Rezner so i could get in a threesome. Moral of the story, a month later I find out I have gonorrhea. So, thank yoK S Utate, I have gonorrhea and was able to cheat on my girlfriend and was able to have a threesome. Please, keep pumping out these sluts. Thank you.
Um, you're welcome? BTW if there is a shred of truth to that :beerchug: -the clap thing. tough break.
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
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Are you kidding me? 4 of the 6 north teams last year were .500 or worse (including your sorry asses) and yeah our $hitty FB team is included in that. 18-30 in conf over all!!! YOU are pimping that? Your LFBIQ makes me look like the Steven FCKING Hawking of FBIQ!!! JEE-ZUSS!!! Oh, FWIW - Mangina was "discovered" by OBz when he was working at the PA turnpike authority - mkay? So yeah, uk football should be offering up fellacio to Big Brother. the end
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Only thing I thank K State for was banging those two sorority chicks who I told I was Trent Rezner so i could get in a threesome. Moral of the story, a month later I find out I have gonorrhea. So, thank yoK S Utate, I have gonorrhea and was able to cheat on my girlfriend and was able to have a threesome. Please, keep pumping out these sluts. Thank you.
Um, you're welcome? BTW if there is a shred of truth to that :beerchug: -the clap thing. tough break.
Yeah, true as the sun is hot. Great bang, btw. It was worth it, until my girlfriend caught it and realized what i did. (Didn't tell her I had a threesome though.) BTW, dax, I'm gonna pull this card. when the hell are YOU guys gonna thank ku for basketball?
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Only thing I thank K State for was banging those two sorority chicks who I told I was Trent Rezner so i could get in a threesome. Moral of the story, a month later I find out I have gonorrhea. So, thank yoK S Utate, I have gonorrhea and was able to cheat on my girlfriend and was able to have a threesome. Please, keep pumping out these sluts. Thank you.
Got pics of chics? Please post. Tia.
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Only thing I thank K State for was banging those two sorority chicks who I told I was Trent Rezner so i could get in a threesome. Moral of the story, a month later I find out I have gonorrhea. So, thank yoK S Utate, I have gonorrhea and was able to cheat on my girlfriend and was able to have a threesome. Please, keep pumping out these sluts. Thank you.
Um, you're welcome? BTW if there is a shred of truth to that :beerchug: -the clap thing. tough break.
Yeah, true as the sun is hot. Great bang, btw. It was worth it, until my girlfriend caught it and realized what i did. (Didn't tell her I had a threesome though.) BTW, dax, I'm gonna pull this card. when the hell are YOU guys gonna thank ku for basketball?
Other way round. uk should thank the Cats. It's a matter of Who Made Who.
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
:confused:
DF went 17-8 at Alabama where he inherited a program on probation and in total disarray playing the SEC with OU and UCLA on the non conference schedule, coming off a 3-8 season. He was 25-10 at tcu . . . but in 2002, he couldn't coach?? :confused:
But that's not really the point Captain Meltdown.
Why should we thank ku for basketball?? Allen Fieldhouse exists because Phog Allen was so enraged with jealousy about Ahearn Fieldhouse he demanded that the ku alumni legislatures find him money . . . even going as far as calling AFH a National Guard Armory in order to get the funds. Jack Gardner, Tex Winter, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Jack Hartman, Lon Kruger, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin . . . NO ku TIES of any kind. K-State going to the NCAA tourney and consistently beating ku got Ted Owens run out of town, and Dean Smith got you guys Larry Brown. You can thank us for that as well.
Plus . . . LOL at fanatic, only a quintessential dumbass picks up two chicks dumb enough to think he's Trent Reznor and then doesn't slap a raincoat on that soldier.
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http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1414463&an=0&page=0#1414463
The blind leading the blind or dumb and dumber??
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
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DF went 17-8 at Alabama where he inherited a program on probation and in total disarray playing the SEC with OU and UCLA on the non conference schedule, coming off a 3-8 season. He was 25-10 at tcu . . . but in 2002, he couldn't coach?? :confused:
But that's not really the point Captain Meltdown.
Why should we thank ku for basketball?? Allen Fieldhouse exists because Phog Allen was so enraged with jealousy about Ahearn Fieldhouse he demanded that the ku alumni legislatures find him money . . . even going as far as calling AFH a National Guard Armory in order to get the funds. Jack Gardner, Tex Winter, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Jack Hartman, Lon Kruger, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin . . . NO ku TIES of any kind. K-State going to the NCAA tourney and consistently beating ku got Ted Owens run out of town, and Dean Smith got you guys Larry Brown. You can thank us for that as well.
Plus . . . LOL at fanatic, only a quintessential dumbass picks up two chicks dumb enough to think he's Trent Reznor and then doesn't slap a raincoat on that soldier.
As I said, "Who made who?" Son is just longer winded than I am.
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Come on, had K-State continued to suck in football, and had K-State not put the emphasis on football than nothing would've changed at ku.
I think there is a lot of truth to this. So...thanks!
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
:confused:
DF went 17-8 at Alabama where he inherited a program on probation and in total disarray playing the SEC with OU and UCLA on the non conference schedule, coming off a 3-8 season. He was 25-10 at tcu . . . but in 2002, he couldn't coach?? :confused:
But that's not really the point Captain Meltdown.
Why should we thank ku for basketball?? Allen Fieldhouse exists because Phog Allen was so enraged with jealousy about Ahearn Fieldhouse he demanded that the ku alumni legislatures find him money . . . even going as far as calling AFH a National Guard Armory in order to get the funds. Jack Gardner, Tex Winter, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Jack Hartman, Lon Kruger, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin . . . NO ku TIES of any kind. K-State going to the NCAA tourney and consistently beating ku got Ted Owens run out of town, and Dean Smith got you guys Larry Brown. You can thank us for that as well.
Plus . . . LOL at fanatic, only a quintessential dumbass picks up two chicks dumb enough to think he's Trent Reznor and then doesn't slap a raincoat on that soldier.
umm... we are 63-37 against you. what are we thanking you for? you should thank us for kicking your @sses so long that your admins finally decided to do something about it, after 80 years.
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
:confused:
DF went 17-8 at Alabama where he inherited a program on probation and in total disarray playing the SEC with OU and UCLA on the non conference schedule, coming off a 3-8 season. He was 25-10 at tcu . . . but in 2002, he couldn't coach?? :confused:
But that's not really the point Captain Meltdown.
Why should we thank ku for basketball?? Allen Fieldhouse exists because Phog Allen was so enraged with jealousy about Ahearn Fieldhouse he demanded that the ku alumni legislatures find him money . . . even going as far as calling AFH a National Guard Armory in order to get the funds. Jack Gardner, Tex Winter, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Jack Hartman, Lon Kruger, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin . . . NO ku TIES of any kind. K-State going to the NCAA tourney and consistently beating ku got Ted Owens run out of town, and Dean Smith got you guys Larry Brown. You can thank us for that as well.
Plus . . . LOL at fanatic, only a quintessential dumbass picks up two chicks dumb enough to think he's Trent Reznor and then doesn't slap a raincoat on that soldier.
umm... we are 63-37 against you. what are we thanking you for? you should thank us for kicking your @sses so long that your admins finally decided to do something about it, after 80 years.
Nope, you missed it compeltely. Please re-read Dax's post, remove the blue and crimson shaded lenses, ponder it and repost. In this regard, records dont matter.
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LOL . . . in the 7 years prior to hiring Snyder, K-State beat ku 3 times on the gridiron, and a 4th game was a tie. So yeah, it was ku that made K-State make wholesale changes to its football program. :lol:
What's the record in the series since they created the Governors Cup??
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I honestly can't believe you're pounding the Franchione drum. The guy is f*cking terrible. He was fired at Texas A&M, one of the easiest places to win in college football. You have got to be joking, 'Pad. Surely, you'd be the first then to admit that K-State basketball hired Huggins after watching ku go to back-to-back Final Fours and pwn the Big 12 conference year in and year out. ku was winning national championships back in the 20's, so don't act like it's the other way around. Our tradition completely blows K-State's out of the water. You hired Huggins and Delonte Hill in order to compete with ku. Don't even try to deny it.
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What's the record in the series since they created the Governors Cup??
Why, don't the games before the invention of the governor's cup count? If so is that because you didn't win many?
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Franchione had been fired in A&M when the ku coaching job was open??
Fascinating.
No... that doesn't change the fact that the guy sucks at coaching. He couldn't win at A&M for God's sake... why on Earth do you think he would be able to win at ku? Last time I checked, Mangino has won assistant coach of the year as well as AP national coach of the year. He's ranked in the top 20 of virtually every set of college football coaching rankings out there. His '09 Jayhawks are the favorite to win the North. Who are all these coaches ranked ahead of Mangino who wanted the ku job, 'Pad?
:confused:
Are you kidding me? 4 of the 6 north teams last year were .500 or worse (including your sorry asses) and yeah our $hitty FB team is included in that. 18-30 in conf over all!!! YOU are pimping that? Your LFBIQ makes me look like the Steven FCKING Hawking of FBIQ!!! JEE-ZUSS!!! Oh, FWIW - Mangina was "discovered" by OBz when he was working at the PA turnpike authority - mkay? So yeah, uk football should be offering up fellacio to Big Brother. the end
You are freaking out about ku being the favorite to win the North in '09. What the hell is your problem?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/960627.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/960627.html)
http://www.cjonline.com/sports/football/2009-04-22/is_ku_favorite_in_north (http://www.cjonline.com/sports/football/2009-04-22/is_ku_favorite_in_north)
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=941193 (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=941193)
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Nice change of the subject to basketball as per usual Captain Meltdown.
Seriously though, you guys had a crystal ball and knew Dennis Francione couldn't coach a lick in 2002?? (when you were 15) So that's why ku hired Mark Mangino?? Plus, I know this is difficult for you to follow Captain Meltdown (as just about everything is) . . . but this isn't a referendum on whether or not we found out FIVE YEARS later that maybe Dennis Francione isn't a great coach. Nor is it an argument that ku should have hired Dennis Francione (how the hell you even got that is a stretch of amazing proportions. All I said was that bigger names were interested in the ku job . . . bigger names than Mark Mangino, one of those bigger names was DF, that's it, that's all I said) It's about the reality of FIVE YEARS prior when ku chose the former K-State assistant over bigger names.
Damn . . . trying to get you on course has to be almost like giving birth.
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1. Urban Meyer, Florida. Two BCS titles in three seasons, with another in his sights.
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma. No coach can match his four BCS title game appearances.
3. Nick Saban, Alabama. First, he made LSU a national power. Now, Saban has Alabama poised to be the nation's top program.
4. Pete Carroll, USC. No program dominates its conference more. The only thing missing? More BCS titles.
5. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa. He has won big despite talent that annually ranks no better than fourth in the Big Ten each season.
6. Mack Brown, Texas. To whom much is given, much is expected. And Brown has delivered.
7. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest. Honestly, if this guy were coaching at, say, Texas, how many national titles would he have?
8. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati. He was at his best last fall, tiptoeing around myriad quarterback injuries to lead the Bearcats to the Big East title.
9. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech. He took a simple idea of building a program around defense and special teams -- and "Beamerball" -- and created a perennial power.
10. Mark Richt, Georgia. His résumé only lacks a national title. And you know one is coming.
11. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan. Not only has he won big, RichRod has helped change the sport with his offense.
12. Mike Riley, Oregon State. He is proof that nice guys don't finish last ... and that you can go home again.
13. Jim Tressel, Ohio State. Is he the best coach in Buckeyes history?
14. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State. He's a throwback coach who wins with toughness, discipline and lots of smarts.
15. Joe Paterno, Penn State. Perhaps his best trait at this stage of his career is knowing how to delegate.
16. Kyle Whittingham, Utah. He has taken what Urban Meyer built and made it better.
17. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss. He's an underrated offensive mind who has a knack for getting players to reach their potential.
18. Gary Patterson, tcu. He's a defensive mastermind whose program is every bit as good as most in the Big 12.
19. Mark Mangino, Kansas. He has done the seemingly impossible by making Jayhawks football a nationally respected program.
20. Randy Edsall, Connecticut. There isn't a more underrated coach in the nation than Edsall, a smart taskmaster who finds ways to win.
21. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina. He has lost some luster, but Spurrier still is an offensive genius.
22. Mike Leach, Texas Tech. Perhaps no coach means more to his school than Leach, whose offenses have revolutionized the sport.
23. Greg Schiano, Rutgers. He inherited one of the worst programs in America and made it into a likeness of himself -- strong, tough and good.
24. Jeff Tedford, California. The offensive wiz has done everything but lead the Golden Bears to the Pac-10 championship.
25. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State. Erickson, who has won two national titles, yearns to finish his career with a bang.
26. Gary Pinkel, Missouri. It was just a matter of time before he imposed his iron will on this program, as he did at Toledo.
27. Jim Leavitt, USF. He has built something out of nothing, making USF a Big East power.
28. Les Miles, LSU. The "Hat" has done enough to prove he belongs among the nation's elite.
29. Chris Petersen, Boise State. The cerebral Petersen understands how to find talent to fit his schemes.
30. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech. He's about ready to change the way we thought teams could win in big-time football.
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Again, what we know now doesn't have a damn thing to do with 2002 Captain Meltdown.
But LOL at that list . . . like I said the last time, apparently 1 season out of 7 over .500 in conference puts you way up on somebody's best coaches list.
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Nice change of the subject to basketball as per usual Captain Meltdown.
Seriously though, you guys had a crystal ball and knew Dennis Francione couldn't coach a lick in 2002?? (when you were 15) So that's why ku hired Mark Mangino?? Plus, I know this is difficult for you to follow Captain Meltdown (as just about everything is) . . . but this isn't a referendum on whether or not we found out FIVE YEARS later that maybe Dennis Francione isn't a great coach. Nor is it an argument that ku should have hired Dennis Francione (how the hell you even got that is a stretch of amazing proportions. All I said was that bigger names were interested in the ku job . . . bigger names than Mark Mangino, one of those bigger names was DF, that's it, that's all I said) It's about the reality of FIVE YEARS prior when ku chose the former K-State assistant over bigger names.
Damn . . . trying to get you on course has to be almost like giving birth.
I'm thinking the fact that Mangino won assistant coach of the year and a national championship at Oklahoma carried a bit more weight than whether or not he coached at K-State. Also, like I've poined out from the start of this thread, ku football would have done something regardless of K-State. ku athletics was losing out on tons of revenue by neglecting the football program. Aside from that, I'm not sure exactly what you're blabbering about. It's obvioius that Franchione sucks at coaching, and you have yet to provide any other "big name" guys who ku could have hired instead of Mangino. Seems like you just want to give K-State all the credit for ku's success... in everything.
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I'll just remind myself that you were just a snot nosed freshman at Washburn Rural when Mangino was hired, and any information you're now getting on why he was hired is nothing but squawktard.net or phogtard.net revisionism.
I guess if I say that Bob Stoops and company weren't exactly teary-eyed about seeing Mangino take the ku job, we'll have to set the bencon level to 1.
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I'll just remind myself that you were just a snot nosed freshman at Washburn Rural when Mangino was hired, and any information you're now getting on why he was hired is nothing but squawktard.net or phogtard.net revisionism.
I guess if I say that Bob Stoops and company weren't exactly teary-eyed about seeing Mangino take the ku job, we'll have to set the bencon level to 1.
Wow.... if that's not the ultimate tapout, I'm not sure what is.
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LOL . . . the guy who just posted the same list he tapped out in on another thread with, is trying to say I tapped out??
How can you discuss this subject with someone who takes the most mundane/innocuous comments and completely goes :mad: about them??
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Again, it seems like you just want to give K-State credit for ku's success.... in everything. Either that, or you were just dying to post that Mangino video, because frankly, your argument is garbage. Franchione?
:lol:
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Yeah . . . I clearly said that ku should've hired Francione. :lol: :jerkoff: :rolleyes:
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I'm not sure what you've been blabbering about. A little Mangino hate there, a little ku hate here. It all just morphs into one big :curse:
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Mangino hate . . . a thread wondering why ku doesn't thank us for making ku care about football is Mangino hate??
Looks like somebody forgot to take their meds again today.
Sad . . .
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Mangino hate . . . a thread wondering why ku doesn't thank us for making ku care about football is Mangino hate??
Looks like somebody forgot to take their meds again today.
Sad . . .
Nope. Acting like ku only hired Mangino because of K-State is where the hating comes from. You act as if ku could have hired someone better in '02.
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Nope . . . I am saying that ku hired Mangino because of knowledge of how Snyder did things, and ku wanted to usurp Snyder ASAP.
Never once claimed that ku could have hired someone better than Mangino, I was saying that ku took Mangino over the veteran head coach because of Mangino's knowledge of K-State.
This isn't that hard, but as per usual, you make it that way.
The only thing that makes me LOL is you trying to tell us that ku knew that Francione wasn't any good, based of events that hadn't even happened yet. Got damn Ben . . . Ala-freaking-bama and Texas A&M both thought Francione was pretty good.
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dax input - :lol:
bmw - :blank:
dax input - :rofl:
bmw - :confused:
:popcorn:
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It's more like :banghead: while the Bento pulls out some kind of wild ass, amazing stretch logic.
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That is not what you said in your initial post, 'Pad:
Come on, had K-State continued to suck in football, and had K-State not put the emphasis on football than nothing would've changed at ku.
Some AD beholden to the basketball coach would be over there running the show, 23,000 people (announced as 37,000) would be showing up for the games, except for the weekend that NU or OU came to town. The big event every other year would be the 35,000 that showed up for the "big" mu vs ku game in Lawrence . . . and half the crowd would've left at halftime to go drink beer regardless if ku was winning or losing (this still happens frequently).
So when does ku thank us for actually starting to give a frank about football??
You made the general argument that ku football would have never improved if it wasn't for K-State. Now you're saying this:
Nope . . . I am saying that ku hired Mangino because of knowledge of how Snyder did things, and ku wanted to usurp Snyder ASAP.
Never once claimed that ku could have hired someone better than Mangino, I was saying that ku took Mangino over the veteran head coach because of Mangino's knowledge of K-State.
This isn't that hard, but as per usual, you make it that way.
The only thing that makes me LOL is you trying to tell us that ku knew that Francione wasn't any good, based of events that hadn't even happened yet. Got damn Ben . . . Ala-freaking-bama and Texas A&M both thought Francione was pretty good.
1. ku hired Mangino because he was a good coach. Mangino owes a lot of his success to Coach Snyder. That's not in question.
2. Figure out what the heck you're talking about first, and then you can start pimping Franchione over Mangino.
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-Never pimped Franchione over Mangino Bentard. But I do have a question, is this crystal bowl that ku has that told them in 2002 that DF wouldn't be a good coach, is it open to the public . . . can anyone use it??
-ku hired Mangino as a direct shot to stop K-State.
Thanks buddy.
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It's more like :banghead: while the Bento pulls out some kind of wild ass, amazing stretch logic.
Oh yeah, just "wild ass, amazing stretch logic" that ku athletics wanted to hire a good coach and increase revenue.
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Missed again Bentard . . . you're dumbass logic was when you were trying to say I was "pimping franchione" . . . I'll use Venn Diagrams next time.
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So you just defended the daylights out of the guy for no apparent reason? Nice.
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-Never pimped Franchione over Mangino Bentard. But I do have a question, is this crystal bowl that ku has that told them in 2002 that DF wouldn't be a good coach, is it open to the public . . . can anyone use it??
-ku hired Mangino because he was a better coach than Franchione, and learned how to rebuild a program during his years under Bill Snyder at K-State, and also Bob Stoops at Oklahoma.
Thanks buddy.
FYP.
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So you just defended the daylights out of the guy for no apparent reason? Nice.
Defended?? What don't you get?? You keep trying to convince me that in 2002, ku knew a coach that had gone 43-18 in the previous 5 seasons wasn't going to be any good. That's what I am laughing at, again it has nothing to do with ku hiring the guy . . . it's the idiocy of you telling me that Franchione would've been a stupid hire based on his results at A&M in 2007, when ku was looking at him in 2002.
Why do you make this so hard??
Damn son.
ku hired Mangino to have the fastest and earliest impact on K-State . . . . free yourself and just admit it. Don't listen to Grayhawker revisionist history Bentard.
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'Pad, it's my opinion that ku hired Mangino because they thought he would be a better coach at ku than Franchione. Mangino had helped rebuild programs at K-State and Oklahoma, had won assistant coach of the year in '00, and a national championship with OU in '00. I'm not sure why you can't accept that maybe ku hired Mangino for reasons other than K-State.
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
Look, I know that 7 years later it's easy for you to concoct some kind of squawk feel good story saying that Mark Mangino was hired because of his long and extensive history at K-State and ou, and that he was brought in to make ku a major player in the Big 12 blah, blah, blah. When in reality he was pretty much brought in to . . . beat K-State.
But you like your story, and it makes you feel good.
So again, when does ku thank K-State for forcing ku to care about football?? Because the other part of your squawk feel good story tells you that ku officials finally came to their senses and looked at all the money they were losing out on . . . but that's just the background story. The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
Look, I know that 7 years later it's easy for you to concoct some kind of squawk feel good story saying that Mark Mangino was hired because of his long and extensive history at K-State and ou, and that he was brought in to make ku a major player in the Big 12 blah, blah, blah. When in reality he was pretty much brought in to . . . beat K-State.
But you like your story, and it makes you feel good.
So again, when does ku thank K-State for forcing ku to care about football?? Because the other part of your squawk feel good story tells you that ku officials finally came to their senses and looked at all the money they were losing out on . . . but that's just the background story. The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
Nonsense. Jibberish.
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LOL . . . everybody duck, here comes the white towel.
Ben ='s :whiteflag:
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When did K State become relevant in anything besides soil judging? :confused:
Dax, dude, you need some pills or something. Your desperate attempt to disprove anything ku will only lead to failure. I hope youu realize that before you reach your deathbed. But I'll bet 20 bucks that you'll die realizing you should have done something better with your life.
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
once again. 63-37-5
if you believe franc would have been a better hire in 2002 then your argument makes no sense, as by your logic ku would have hired the coach with the best resume if they wanted to put a wooping on KSU. I'm guessing ku was turned down by bigger named coaches and we could get mangino cheap.
Kinda funny that you owe the DoD to ku, cause ku was wooping KSU butt for decades.
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
once again. 63-37-5
if you believe franc would have been a better hire in 2002 then your argument makes no sense, as by your logic ku would have hired the coach with the best resume if they wanted to put a wooping on KSU. I'm guessing ku was turned down by bigger named coaches and we could get mangino cheap.
Kinda funny that you owe the DoD to ku, cause ku was wooping KSU butt for decades.
Not to nitpick too much, but the all-time series is at 65-36-5 now. 64-37-5 according to some.
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
once again. 63-37-5
if you believe franc would have been a better hire in 2002 then your argument makes no sense, as by your logic ku would have hired the coach with the best resume if they wanted to put a wooping on KSU. I'm guessing ku was turned down by bigger named coaches and we could get mangino cheap.
Kinda funny that you owe the DoD to ku, cause ku was wooping KSU butt for decades.
Not to nitpick too much, but the all-time series is at 65-36-5 now. 64-37-5 according to some.
sorry, just took it out of my head...thanks for looking it up. They still will need 3 more DoD's just to even out the series. I don't see it happening again in my life.
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He was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on K-State . . . that was reason #1.
Look, I know that 7 years later it's easy for you to concoct some kind of squawk feel good story saying that Mark Mangino was hired because of his long and extensive history at K-State and ou, and that he was brought in to make ku a major player in the Big 12 blah, blah, blah. When in reality he was pretty much brought in to . . . beat K-State.
But you like your story, and it makes you feel good.
So again, when does ku thank K-State for forcing ku to care about football?? Because the other part of your squawk feel good story tells you that ku officials finally came to their senses and looked at all the money they were losing out on . . . but that's just the background story. The main story was that certain squawk power brokers were tired of ku getting its ass beat by k-state all the time
My Gawd. What an envious, bitter, whiney little girl. You have got to let it go. :lol:
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
But BMW has to respond to Dax's every post as well. See what I did there?
Anyway, if MM was brought in to make ku "a major player in the Big XII" then he still has a ways to go.
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So true. 'Pad masturbates every time ku loses or when a player gets in trouble. He LOOKS for bad stories about ku to give him something to beat off to, since no female would ever touch him. It's pretty sad to see his hatred for ku, since he was only denied admission here. Your ACT score and essay sucked, Pad!!!! get over it!!! BTW, when DID you graduate from KSU? When did you go to KSU for that matter? Dude pretty much makes that bum who lives under the bridge look like Sir Richard Branson. Pad, have you ever considered suicide?
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
But BMW has to respond to Dax's every post as well. See what I did there?
Anyway, if MM was brought in to make ku "a major player in the Big XII" then he still has a ways to go.
Isn't that the reason that KSU brought back Old Balls.....
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
But BMW has to respond to Dax's every post as well. See what I did there?
Anyway, if MM was brought in to make ku "a major player in the Big XII" then he still has a ways to go.
Isn't that the reason that KSU brought back Old Balls.....
That is to get BACK TO being a major player. Subtle difference I know but the devil is in the details.
Don't get so upset, this year is ku's first step to getting there. I think once you win 2 or more outright North titles, you can say you are there. Keep plugging, you have to walk before you can run.
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
But BMW has to respond to Dax's every post as well. See what I did there?
Anyway, if MM was brought in to make ku "a major player in the Big XII" then he still has a ways to go.
Isn't that the reason that KSU brought back Old Balls.....
That is to get BACK TO being a major player. Subtle difference I know but the devil is in the details.
Don't get so upset, this year is ku's first step to getting there. I think once you win 2 or more outright North titles, you can say you are there. Keep plugging, you have to walk before you can run.
WHEN this happens, can I do this to you? :nutkick:
And, I will up the ante, we HAVE to win two before K State wins one.
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It's scary how far BMW is in Pad's tiny little gourd ... dude has to respond to every little post. It's just damn impossible for him to let one go, and oh ... say ... have a life without him.
LOL . . . even the Stalksmith seeks validation.
Sad . . .
My gawd . . . I've got to avoid KDWP again, this is a slaughter.
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I haven't seen a beating this bad since Pacquiao vs. Hatton.
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you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now. So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.
Snyder 46 - 33 - 1. Conf record 22 - 26 - 1
Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W
Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)
Now, Mangino after year 7
Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34
Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W
Highest Division finish T1
I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you? We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.
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Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino. Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point. Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North.
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I haven't seen a beating this bad since Pacquiao vs. Hatton.
:love:
(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
Yes, yes . . . it was quite a beatdown by Captain Meltdown with his ass buddies hawks, deluge, fanatic and docstalksmith . . . a great Victory!! Tonight we will celebrate with much scrotal nose slapping.
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Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino. Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point. Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North.
I know there are diffs. Just saying, you trash him and his record all the time, but it is NOT that much different than Snyder's. Also Snyder did not start a season at 7-0 until 1998, year 10, while it was year 6 for Mangino.
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Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino. Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point. Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North.
DUDE, GIVE THE &@#% UP!!!! As much as you try to spew facts in your favor, as much as you get red in the face trying to defend the precious school you NEVER even went to, as much as you try telling people you been laid by other girls besides your friend's grandmother (pssst, fyi, she's your grandmother too) There's ALWAYS stipulations, right? There's always a little asterisk, right? Dax, you are lame sauce. So, because Snyder came to a more down program, that means that even though they have the same record, Snyder's is better? Admit it, you are in fear. You see that Mangino is comparing to /snyder and you see where that is going. That is the ONLY reason you guys brought Snyder back. You guys KNOW you are irrelevant in BB, but FB? No, that can never happen. That would only make K State irrelevant in general....
No one knows who K State is without FB. yeah, you are those guys that had beasley, but really? That guy crashed and burned faster than the Hindenburg. K state is doing EVERYTHING wrong to become important. Maybe soon, there won't be a KSU at all. I mean, it isn't like any "alumni" actually donate to KSU, being farmers and all. So, stay purple Dax, its the only thing you got :thumbsup:
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I haven't seen a beating this bad since Pacquiao vs. Hatton.
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(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
Yes, yes . . . it was quite a beatdown by Captain Meltdown with his ass buddies hawks, deluge, fanatic and docstalksmith . . . a great Victory!! Tonight we will celebrate with much scrotal nose slapping.
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you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now. So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.
Snyder 46 - 33 - 1. Conf record 22 - 26 - 1
Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W
Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)
Now, Mangino after year 7
Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34
Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W
Highest Division finish T1
I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you? We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.
Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.
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Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino. Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point. Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North.
DUDE, GIVE THE frack uP!!!! As much as you try to spew facts in your favor, as much as you get red in the face trying to defend the precious school you NEVER even went to, as much as you try telling people you been laid by other girls besides your friend's grandmother (pssst, fyi, she's your grandmother too) There's ALWAYS stipulations, right? There's always a little asterisk, right? Dax, you are lame sauce. So, because Snyder came to a more down program, that means that even though they have the same record, Snyder's is better? Admit it, you are in fear. You see that Mangino is comparing to /snyder and you see where that is going. That is the ONLY reason you guys brought Snyder back. You guys KNOW you are irrelevant in BB, but FB? No, that can never happen. That would only make K State irrelevant in general....
No one knows who K State is without FB. yeah, you are those guys that had beasley, but really? That guy crashed and burned faster than the Hindenburg. K state is doing EVERYTHING wrong to become important. Maybe soon, there won't be a KSU at all. I mean, it isn't like any "alumni" actually donate to KSU, being farmers and all. So, stay purple Dax, its the only thing you got :thumbsup:
I never went to K-State?? :confused:
Nice meltdown . . . you keep that up and you're going to replace Ben at the top of the Meltdown Charts.
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Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino. Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point. Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North.
DUDE, GIVE THE frack uP!!!! As much as you try to spew facts in your favor, as much as you get red in the face trying to defend the precious school you NEVER even went to, as much as you try telling people you been laid by other girls besides your friend's grandmother (pssst, fyi, she's your grandmother too) There's ALWAYS stipulations, right? There's always a little asterisk, right? Dax, you are lame sauce. So, because Snyder came to a more down program, that means that even though they have the same record, Snyder's is better? Admit it, you are in fear. You see that Mangino is comparing to /snyder and you see where that is going. That is the ONLY reason you guys brought Snyder back. You guys KNOW you are irrelevant in BB, but FB? No, that can never happen. That would only make K State irrelevant in general....
No one knows who K State is without FB. yeah, you are those guys that had beasley, but really? That guy crashed and burned faster than the Hindenburg. K state is doing EVERYTHING wrong to become important. Maybe soon, there won't be a KSU at all. I mean, it isn't like any "alumni" actually donate to KSU, being farmers and all. So, stay purple Dax, its the only thing you got :thumbsup:
I never went to K-State?? :confused:
Nice meltdown . . . you keep that up and you're going to replace Ben at the top of the Meltdown Charts.
Nice comeback, do you have anything better to say than I'm having a meltdown? I'm on top of the WORLD right now. It's not a meltdown, it's more of a melt UP. Keep trying though. You get pwned and call it a meltdown. So sad. :violin:
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you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now. So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.
Snyder 46 - 33 - 1. Conf record 22 - 26 - 1
Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W
Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)
Now, Mangino after year 7
Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34
Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W
Highest Division finish T1
I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you? We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.
Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.
or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. :dunno:
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Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question. Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country. Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years. Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season. Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State.
Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku. Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months. Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game. So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism. Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000). ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366).
Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand.
Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.
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The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer. Had some good years. Probably quite a few good memories. But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.
Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it. 2 legit 2 quit = emaw.
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The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer. Had some good years. Probably quite a few good memories. But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.
Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it. 2 legit 2 quit = emaw.
That would make ku Vanilla Ice
Ice, ICe baby = 2007
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
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The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer. Had some good years. Probably quite a few good memories. But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.
Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it. 2 legit 2 quit = emaw.
That would make ku Vanilla Ice
Ice, ICe baby = 2007
BURNED...I mean, "Too cold". :fiesta:
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Well Mangino just might be who then . . . somewhat meteoric rise, plays the big arenas one season, then album sales drop, everybody waiting on the next album hoping it recaptures former glory . . . music execs and agents tense and filled with angst, original members of the band gone . . . high expectations.
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Could be worse. Could be the KSU. At least there's a chance.
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Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question. Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country. Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years. Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season. Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State.
Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku. Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months. Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game. So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism. Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000). ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366).
Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand.
Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.
I believe you said "why does a guy that only wins 36% of conference games still coaching". you do know that 11-19 is not that good right. You do remember the toilet bowl? I know this, when Mangino leaves we won't replace him with a coach like Prince. No way.
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No, I think I said guys with that kind of record shouldn't make Top coaching lists . . . or at least to best of my recollection that's what I said.
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
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So when does ku thank us for actually starting to give a frank about football??
Simple answer. They don't. Pretty classy, I'd say !
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...
OK. How about this?
Imagine you went all of your life without a dick. It would suck pretty bad. BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it. And then one day you sprout a dick. A glorious one. And its awesome. You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere. Good times. The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while. Did quite a bit of humping. Quality, quantity, all that jazz. But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago. And it ain't gonna grow back. So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.
emaw.
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Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question. Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country. Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years. Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season. Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State.
Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku. Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months. Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game. So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism. Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000). ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366).
Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand.
Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.
MELTDOWN!!!!
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Am I the only onw who doesn't think it would have been much different? ku has always had an average to slightly below average football program. There were highs with Glen Mason in the early 90's, a few banner years in the late 40's and early fifties, the 68' Orange Bowl, and now the later side of Mangino's run.
In between ku football has been average at best and reaching paltry levels in the mid-late 80's and under Terry Allen.
They have had a few real standouts over the years with players like Sayers, Riggins etc as would be the case with many schools, but have never had any real sustained success.
Up until the Mangino era ku had gone to only 8 Bowl games in over 50 years. Of course it is much easier to get bowl bid these days and other than the 11-1 team many ku teams have been on par with the other "successful" Mangino squads.
So I don't really think KSU being good for a little over a decade had much to do with them being good. In fact I think it may have been just the opposite.
ku will continue to be an average football program with occaisional flashes of greatness or complete ineptitude.
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...
OK. How about this?
Imagine you went all of your life without a dick. It would suck pretty bad. BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it. And then one day you sprout a dick. A glorious one. And its awesome. You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere. Good times. The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while. Did quite a bit of humping. Quality, quantity, all that jazz. But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago. And it ain't gonna grow back. So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.
emaw.
:katpak: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak: :katpak:
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:pray: :swinglegs: :pray:
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...
OK. How about this?
Imagine you went all of your life without a dick. It would suck pretty bad. BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it. And then one day you sprout a dick. A glorious one. And its awesome. You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere. Good times. The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while. Did quite a bit of humping. Quality, quantity, all that jazz. But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago. And it ain't gonna grow back. So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.
emaw.
Better to have humped and lost than to have never humped at all. :dunno:
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Am I the only onw who doesn't think it would have been much different? ku has always had an average to slightly below average football program. There were highs with Glen Mason in the early 90's, a few banner years in the late 40's and early fifties, the 68' Orange Bowl, and now the later side of Mangino's run.
In between ku football has been average at best and reaching paltry levels in the mid-late 80's and under Terry Allen.
They have had a few real standouts over the years with players like Sayers, Riggins etc as would be the case with many schools, but have never had any real sustained success.
Up until the Mangino era ku had gone to only 8 Bowl games in over 50 years. Of course it is much easier to get bowl bid these days and other than the 11-1 team many ku teams have been on par with the other "successful" Mangino squads.
So I don't really think KSU being good for a little over a decade had much to do with them being good. In fact I think it may have been just the opposite.
ku will continue to be an average football program with occaisional flashes of greatness or complete ineptitude.
BEST POST EVER!!!! At least this guy makes sense. And i feel for you, dax, losing your dick and all. That must suck.
Oh well, off to bang chicks.
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...
OK. How about this?
Imagine you went all of your life without a dick. It would suck pretty bad. BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it. And then one day you sprout a dick. A glorious one. And its awesome. You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere. Good times. The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while. Did quite a bit of humping. Quality, quantity, all that jazz. But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago. And it ain't gonna grow back. So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.
emaw.
Same scenario but your dick only lasted 1 year and you only nailed the easiest girls and an a tranny (Vatech)
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Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see. Can't time travel, guy. Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon. Don't know yet.
One thing is for sure, though: KSU = Hammer
We already know what happened in 2008. Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.
But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...
OK. How about this?
Imagine you went all of your life without a dick. It would suck pretty bad. BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it. And then one day you sprout a dick. A glorious one. And its awesome. You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere. Good times. The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while. Did quite a bit of humping. Quality, quantity, all that jazz. But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago. And it ain't gonna grow back. So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.
emaw.
Same scenario but your dick only lasted 1 year and you only nailed the easiest girls and an a tranny (Vatech)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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LOL at the Bentard . . . always clamoring to put the Meltdown label on someone else.
To the Bentard . . . :cheers:
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"Huggins was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on ku. . . that was reason #1.
Look, I know that 4 years later it's easy for you K-Staters to concoct some kind of kat'pak feel good story saying that Huggins was hired because of his long and extensive history at Cincinnati, and that he was brought in to make K-State a major player in the Big 12 blah, blah, blah. When in reality he was pretty much brought in to . . . beat ku.
But you K-Staters like your story, and it makes you feel good.
So again, when does K-State thank ku for forcing K-State to care about basketball?? Because the other part of your kat'pak feel good story tells you that K-State officials finally came to their senses and looked at all the money they were losing out on . . . but that's just the background story. The main story was that certain kat'pak power brokers were tired of K-State getting its ass beat by ku all the time."
:cyclist:
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Ben . . . really sucking ass today on the board.
Pick it up Ben.
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you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now. So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.
Snyder 46 - 33 - 1. Conf record 22 - 26 - 1
Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W
Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)
Now, Mangino after year 7
Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34
Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W
Highest Division finish T1
I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you? We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.
Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.
or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. :dunno:
i like how everyone completely ignored the logical responses.
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you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now. So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.
Snyder 46 - 33 - 1. Conf record 22 - 26 - 1
Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W
Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)
Now, Mangino after year 7
Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34
Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W
Highest Division finish T1
I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you? We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.
Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.
or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. :dunno:
i like how everyone completely ignored the logical responses.
Only logical if true. But they are not. This year will prove it.
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The Dick Club:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=4166221