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Clemente all day, he is faster then Collins, he isn't fat, and he doesn't rub his dong on chicks in an elevator... Oh and he doesn't put up with racist white bastards either. The passion and the heart to defend his diverse team is super EMAW! FWIW
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Has Collins scored 44 in a game yet?
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Hmmmm, Clemente to have my back in a fight because Collins seems to only pick fights with babies and women. Collins in a hot dog eating contest because of his fatness compared to Denis' skinniness. I doubt Denis could eat more than two hot dogs. Denis has much better tattoos but is losing by a mile in the hair design race. I would say Collins as a wing man because you always want to be better looking than your wing man or it could lead to bad things. Collins is a more consistent and better basketball player. Denis would be a better tour guide overseas because he speaks Spanish....thought neither Denis or Collins speak English properly.
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clemente and it's not close.
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Hmmmm, Clemente to have my back in a fight because Collins seems to only pick fights with babies and women. Collins in a hot dog eating contest because of his fatness compared to Denis' skinniness. I doubt Denis could eat more than two hot dogs. Denis has much better tattoos but is losing by a mile in the hair design race. I would say Collins as a wing man because you always want to be better looking than your wing man or it could lead to bad things. Collins is a more consistent and better basketball player. Denis would be a better tour guide overseas because he speaks Spanish....thought neither Denis or Collins speak English properly.
'cellent 'lysis
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Hot Latin fire vs. overeating, baby ignoring, elevator rubbing, NBA wannabe.
Pretty clear cut.
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collins, he's the better player
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Hmmmm, Clemente to have my back in a fight because Collins seems to only pick fights with babies and women. Collins in a hot dog eating contest because of his fatness compared to Denis' skinniness. I doubt Denis could eat more than two hot dogs. Denis has much better tattoos but is losing by a mile in the hair design race. I would say Collins as a wing man because you always want to be better looking than your wing man or it could lead to bad things. Collins is a more consistent and better basketball player. Denis would be a better tour guide overseas because he speaks Spanish....thought neither Denis or Collins speak English properly.
Skinny dudes eat more. I bet you've never even been to a real hot dog eating contest! Fat dudes always lose.
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Hmmmm, Clemente to have my back in a fight because Collins seems to only pick fights with babies and women. Collins in a hot dog eating contest because of his fatness compared to Denis' skinniness. I doubt Denis could eat more than two hot dogs. Denis has much better tattoos but is losing by a mile in the hair design race. I would say Collins as a wing man because you always want to be better looking than your wing man or it could lead to bad things. Collins is a more consistent and better basketball player. Denis would be a better tour guide overseas because he speaks Spanish....thought neither Denis or Collins speak English properly.
Skinny dudes eat more. I bet you've never even been to a real hot dog eating contest! Fat dudes always lose.
Those are just the professional hot dog eaters. In real life fat d00ds eat more hotdogs according to scientists.
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I'd take Collins in a humpty hump dance contest and Clemente in a salsa dance off.
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clemente bc you could become friends with him and visit Puerto Rico on vaca. If you were friends with collins you'd just get to go visit some Chicago project with all his dead babies lying around.
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Clemente all day, he is faster then Collins, he isn't fat, and he doesn't rub his dong on chicks in an elevator... Oh and he doesn't put up with racist white bastards either. The passion and the heart to defend his diverse team is super EMAW! FWIW
:kstatriot:
I normally rag on you for being mucho strange, but this is a very solid analysis. :eyeseeyou:
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Clemente has way more heart and is more humble than Sheron.
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lets see.........Clemente who goes to K-State who's straight or some black guy who goes to ku and is :ku: he just did what he did just to try to cover up the fact that he is extremely :ku:.
so Clemente by a long shot. :skillz: :alleyoop: and also sherron smokes too much :BigToke: and :drink: too much causing him to get the munchies which therefore making him fat.
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Collins b/c all of the arguments for Clemente in this thread aren't bball related. That's says it all right there.
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Collins b/c all of the arguments for Clemente in this thread aren't bball related. That's says it all right there.
More to life than bball, bro.
Clemente is just a better all around guy.
Denis, FTW.
:kstatriot:
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Clemente is a thug who throws bitch punches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o)
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Furthermore, the kid is a crybaby:
(http://www.themercury.com/dyn-img/04f4311aadf342fc8fdd8383e5f84bee/0215menstwo.jpg)
Sherron is a national champ:
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1113/pg2_sherron_collins1_400.jpg)
:thumbsup:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o
wtf?? can't see anything. bad qual.
clemente had better stats in conference play, and didn't have anyone down low to help out. that changes next year. It's not even debatable. Clemente absolutely clowned ku last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xuS1G0wC4
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Ooohhh let me try
If Micheal Beasley (#2 overall in NBA draft) and Bill Walker (2nd Round Draft Pick) would have been around K-State would have won at Nebraska, sooooo Clemente! :nahnah:
Clemente anyways, way cooler on court dance and less tragic and embarrassing of a "student athelete" and human being.
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The kid threw a bitch punch to someone's head during a game and was kicked off the team at Miami (FL). You have got to be f*cking kidding me.
bfd. no one died. can sherron say the same?
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The kid threw a bitch punch to someone's head during a game.
it was a little slap. not a punch at all. looked like a "keep your head up, friend" type thing.
don't really recall the game situ. hadn't the ku player just missed a ft or two? it was something like that, iirc.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o)
KSthUg
Crying again? What an absolute pussy.
(http://cache.uspresswire.com/image/thumb/250-250/3618846.jpg)
:lol:
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(http://cache.uspresswire.com/image/thumb/250-250/3618846.jpg)
clemente again. top of his head smells delicious.
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I was going to ask why BMW thinks Clemente sucks, but he deleted his post. :tongue:
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The kid threw a bitch punch to someone's head during a game and was kicked off the team at Miami (FL). You have got to be f*cking kidding me.
bfd. no one died. can sherron say the same?
:eek:
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Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Once again we are basing this on the better overall player. Not the players that are around him or the team that he plays on.
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Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Once again we are basing this on the better overall player. Not the players that are around him or the team that he plays on.
Okay, then....
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
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Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Once again we are basing this on the better overall player. Not the players that are around him or the team that he plays on.
Okay, then....
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
Sharon- One dead baby.
Denis- Zero dead babies.
I rest my case.
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In the picture above, xavier ( big-time :ku: name) looks like he's had more plastic surgeries than Joan Rivers.
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Damn right I'm concerned. I think that Skeletor ate both Collins and Rush's babies.
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You stay trashy, JT.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/)
Collins lost his firstborn son, Sherron Jr., who lived just 10 days after being born four months premature on June 3, 2006.
"Things have got to go on, but I miss him a lot," said Collins, who visits his son's gravesite when he can and has honored his memory with a tattoo on his own forearm that says "R.I.P. Sherron, Jr."
"Before every free throw, I look at him before I shoot."
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/10/13/SherronCollinsFam_t300.jpg)
:'(
Wonder how that chick in the picture feels about wienergate? At least he got back on the horse ;) and had another kid. Nothing quite like a kid with zero income spitting out a couple babies (With two different mothers, I'd imagine.) before his 21 birthday.
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You stay trashy, JT.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/)
Collins lost his firstborn son, Sherron Jr., who lived just 10 days after being born four months premature on June 3, 2006.
"Things have got to go on, but I miss him a lot," said Collins, who visits his son's gravesite when he can and has honored his memory with a tattoo on his own forearm that says "R.I.P. Sherron, Jr."
"Before every free throw, I look at him before I shoot."
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/10/13/SherronCollinsFam_t300.jpg)
Ok so in 2006 Sheron is how old with a 6 month baby. 19?
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Clemente is a thug who throws bitch punches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-yQtWUj_o)
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Furthermore, the kid is a crybaby:
(http://www.themercury.com/dyn-img/04f4311aadf342fc8fdd8383e5f84bee/0215menstwo.jpg)
Sherron is a national champ:
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1113/pg2_sherron_collins1_400.jpg)
:thumbsup:
How does he have 5 conference championships? Should we be checking his eligability?
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'07 Big 12 regular season title, '07 Big 12 tourney title, '08 Big 12 regular season title, '08 Big 12 tourney title, '09 Big 12 regular season title
= FIVE Big 12 titles... (five more than K-State has total)
:thumbsup:
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You stay trashy, JT.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/)
Collins lost his firstborn son, Sherron Jr., who lived just 10 days after being born four months premature on June 3, 2006.
"Things have got to go on, but I miss him a lot," said Collins, who visits his son's gravesite when he can and has honored his memory with a tattoo on his own forearm that says "R.I.P. Sherron, Jr."
"Before every free throw, I look at him before I shoot."
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/10/13/SherronCollinsFam_t300.jpg)
:'(
Wonder how that chick in the picture feels about wienergate? At least he got back on the horse ;) and had another kid. Nothing quite like a kid with zero income spitting out a couple babies (With two different mothers, I'd imagine.) before his 21 birthday.
Do you actually think you're funny?
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I know srsly like Collins isn't making any money :rofl:
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
I feel for him man. I reall, really, do.
So, which choice did you make Ben? :cheers:
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Didn't Brandon Rush have a kid I can't remember it was someone on the 2007 squad.
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(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cjswope/sherron2.jpg)
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Didn't Brandon Rush have a kid I can't remember it was someone on the 2007 squad.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cjswope/brando3.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cjswope/brando2.jpg)
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i'll go w clemente. look at him crying his emawness out. collins only cares about himself
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
Or move.
The level of tardness shown by BMW increases with each post he makes.
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
quit listening to rap music.
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Didn't Brandon Rush have a kid I can't remember it was someone on the 2007 squad.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cjswope/brando3.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cjswope/brando2.jpg)
Hahaha :thumbsup:
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BMW= :jayhook:
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
Or move.
The level of tardness shown by BMW increases with each post he makes.
You are ignorant as it gets. Sherron grew up in a rough area of Chicago and witnessed kids get murdered. You don't have any idea how easy it would have been for him to join a gang. Instead, he's playing college basketball at ku and set to earn his college degree. You guys are trash.
There are prolly a ton of kids that do neither. Not saying it was a good neighborhood but com'on, it's chicago. It's like me saying I braved the rough area of Omaha (north Omaha is the rough area fwiw) and came out alive only because of my fantastic good looks. I'm sure my looks had a lot to do with it but my intelligence and bravery also played a part.
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If I was being attacked by a pack of angry babies, then Sharon is my man. d00d can choke out about 10 at a time, IIRC.
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If I was being attacked by a pack of angry babies, then Sharon is my man. d00d can choke out about 10 at a time, IIRC.
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He watched one of his friends get murdered at a pretty young age,
it's pronounced "bay-bee"
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The roughest areas in Chicago are some of the worst in the United States. Sherron grew up in a really bad area... there was a story on kuSports.com about it a couple years ago, but it's no longer available. He watched one of his friends get murdered at a pretty young age, and was constantly in the midst of violence. I'm not saying that not joining a gang is commendable but you guys act like Sherron grew up with a privileged background. The guy has come a long way from a social environment that can bring out the worst in people. The fact that he is earning a college degree and playing college basketball at a program like ku is a huge testament to his character.
clemente grew up in much worse conditions and didn't have to kill anyone.
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The roughest areas in Chicago are some of the worst in the United States. Sherron grew up in a really bad area... there was a story on kuSports.com about it a couple years ago, but it's no longer available. He watched one of his friends get murdered at a pretty young age, and was constantly in the midst of violence. I'm not saying that not joining a gang is commendable but you guys act like Sherron grew up with a privileged background. The guy has come a long way from a social environment that can bring out the worst in people. The fact that he is earning a college degree and playing college basketball at a program like ku is a huge testament to his character.
clemente grew up in much worse conditions and didn't have to kill anyone.
That's a great point
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He watched one of his friends get murdered at a pretty young age, and was constantly in the midst of violence. I'm not saying that not joining a gang is commendable but you guys act like Sherron grew up with a privileged background. The guy has come a long way from a social environment that can bring out the worst in people. The fact that he is earning a college degree and playing college basketball at a program like ku is a huge testament to his character.
OMFG.
Do you know how many young, African Americans grow up in situations similar to what you just described? There are countless that do, and a lot of those countless grow up and make something of themselves without the use of a game.
It says absolutely nothing about his character, it just says he's good at basketball and got a free ticket out of Chicago because of it. Quit looking like a complete idiot and propping up a guy for being good at basketball. You act like you guys are best friends and you've personally felt his pain growing up in the streets. Give me a fracking break.
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Both suck, imo.
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What exactly did his baby die of?
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What exactly did his baby die of?
Part of the recruiting process.
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What exactly did his baby die of?
Part of the recruiting process.
:lol:
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What exactly did his baby die of?
Lung cancer. The dude smoked his whole life.
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I could see that haha :kstatriot:
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What exactly did his baby die of?
Lung cancer. The dude smoked his whole life.
I only have one question: After the baby smoked a blunt and got the munchies, did Sharon have to feed him or did the little guy just go to the 7-11 himself and pick-up some funions?
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
You watch too many after school specials. There are lots of ways out, most of them just are not looking for them.
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'07 Big 12 regular season title, '07 Big 12 tourney title, '08 Big 12 regular season title, '08 Big 12 tourney title, '09 Big 12 regular season title
= FIVE Big 12 titles... (five more than K-State has total)
:thumbsup:
What a bunch of tards counting a "regular season" titles. What the hell does that mean? Unless you play every team in the conference twice it does not matter. The tourny title is all that counts as a big 12 Title!
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'07 Big 12 regular season title, '07 Big 12 tourney title, '08 Big 12 regular season title, '08 Big 12 tourney title, '09 Big 12 regular season title
= FIVE Big 12 titles... (five more than K-State has total)
:thumbsup:
What a bunch of tards counting a "regular season" titles. What the hell does that mean? Unless you play every team in the conference twice it does not matter. The tourny title is all that counts as a big 12 Title!
qft. god bless mizzou.
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The roughest areas in Chicago are some of the worst in the United States. Sherron grew up in a really bad area... there was a story on kuSports.com about it a couple years ago, but it's no longer available. He watched one of his friends get murdered at a pretty young age, and was constantly in the midst of violence. I'm not saying that not joining a gang is commendable but you guys act like Sherron grew up with a privileged background. The guy has come a long way from a social environment that can bring out the worst in people. The fact that he is earning a college degree and playing college basketball at a program like ku is a huge testament to his character.
debatable but we'll go with it. I'm not sure any of uk players could graduate with a real degree. At least I don't pretend that KSU players are all getting degrees.
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WoooOOOoooooooo. Program like ku.
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
You watch too many after school specials. There are lots of ways out, most of them just are not looking for them.
Ignorance is bliss.
You're right. Every single one of the millions of kids under the age of 18 in Chicago is either an athlete or a gang member. You must really think a lot of the town. Also- who actually works in Chicago? I mean if everyone is busy gang banging or shooting hoops, who actually does the things that are necessary to keep a city operating? When you apply for a job, is the application just 2 boxes and you check either gang member or athlete?
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Do they have argyle in Chi-town?
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A kid from the area where Sherron Collins lived has two choices... join a gang, or play sports.
You watch too many after school specials. There are lots of ways out, most of them just are not looking for them.
Ignorance is bliss.
You're right. Every single one of the millions of kids under the age of 18 in Chicago is either an athlete or a gang member. You must really think a lot of the town. Also- who actually works in Chicago? I mean if everyone is busy gang banging or shooting hoops, who actually does the things that are necessary to keep a city operating? When you apply for a job, is the application just 2 boxes and you check either gang member or athlete?
Notice the difference? You are an absolute moron. Take a couple courses in logic and reading comprehension. TIA.
In what area did Sherron Live? Chicago.
Logic SELF FAIL.
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THE GREAT ESCAPE
ku freshman guard Sherron Collins discovers that life is a lot different in Lawrence after growing up on the mean streets of Chicago.
By JASON KING
The Kansas City Star
CHICAGO | Some say Sherron Collins’ neighborhood is getting safer, but a few weeks ago, on North Leavitt Street, a girl was stabbed in the temple with a scalpel.
Happened just down the sidewalk from the Chicago Boys and Girls Club, where tonight members of the Kings and Deuces linger on the porch, smoking cigarettes while rehashing the gang fight that erupted a short time ago in the gymnasium.
“You missed it by 10 minutes,” says program coordinator Nick Sanchez, still somewhat out of breath from breaking up the fracas. “This one was pretty bad.”
A block away, on the corner of Damen and Diversey, a middle-aged man paces back and forth, almost to a cadence, never taking more than three steps before reversing his course. He’s babbling to himself and flailing his arms in unpredictable directions, a sign that he may be on crack.
The man holds out his hand as two women approach near the intersection. He asks them for money, but they pretend not to see him as they wave and peer through the window of each passing car.
Treena and Charisma wear white mini-skirts and black leather boots that extend above their knees. They won’t give their last names, but they admit to being prostitutes. Treena, 19, interlocks arms with her friend. They always work together.
“Around here,” she says, “you never go anywhere alone.”
Nearly 600 miles away, at Buffalo Wild Wings in Lawrence, Collins is plowing through a basket of mini corn dogs as he watches a college basketball game. On Saturday he’ll be the one playing on national television when Kansas takes on Texas for the Big 12 title.
Collins, a freshman, is averaging nearly 10 points a game for the third-ranked Jayhawks. Still, as impressive as he’s been on the court, the amazing thing about Collins is that he’s even here.
Here, instead of in jail like his father, a gangbanger who spent most of Sherron’s childhood in prison for selling drugs.
Here, instead of a coffin like his best friend, Cedrick, who was hit in the head with a bullet during a drive-by shooting just 50 feet from Sherron’s front porch.
Here, instead of holed up at his mom’s place back in Chicago, depressed and defeated over the death of his infant son last summer. Born four months early on June 3, Sherron Jr. lived just 10 days before an infection overtook his lungs.
“Sherron’s only 19, but some of the stuff he’s been through — some of the stuff he’s seen — most people will never experience stuff like that in their whole life,” said Walt Harris, Collins’ uncle. “He had every opportunity to let his situation get the best of him.
“But he saw there was a different path.”
•••
Thirty seconds after the door slammed at Apartment 2868, Sherron Collins heard gun shots. And, eventually, screams.
Cedrick Collins (no relation to Sherron) had been hit with a stray bullet moments after walking out of Sherron’s living room at the Lathrop Homes housing complex on the near northwest side of Chicago. By the time Sherron made it outside, his best friend of 10 years was basically dead.
“His hat was lying a few feet away and his head was in a big puddle of blood,” Sherron said. “He moved a little bit, but whenever I tried to get him to talk, he couldn’t say anything.”
A few days later, at a local hospital, Cedrick was taken off of life support. He was 16.
“Sometimes I see interviews on TV or hear people talking about how tough they had it growing up,” Collins said. “I never say anything out loud but, in the back of my head, I’m thinking, ‘You have no clue.’ ”
The book on Sherron Marlon Collins was established early.
Within a year of his birth in March 1987, Sherron had learned to dribble a basketball in front of his walker. By the time he was 9, he was embarrassing grown men in pick-up games at neighborhood picnics.
Sherron’s mother, Stacey Harris, worked two jobs as a certified nursing assistant and rarely came home before midnight. Then there was Dad, who couldn’t offer much support from his jail cell.
Like his son, Steven Collins was once a standout on the Chicago high school basketball scene, playing at St. James against the likes of Windy City legend Tim Hardaway.
Steven, though, dropped out of school his junior year. He eventually joined a gang and began selling drugs, a trade he practiced even after fathering Sherron and his older brother, Steve.
“We were living in the projects, but we had all the nice clothes and all the latest video games,” said Steve Collins, now 21 and a student at West Valley College in San Jose, Calif. “But he was never there for us. He was never that male figure we needed because he was in and out of prison.
“People in the neighborhood called him the Gym Shoe Daddy, because buying Sherron and me gym shoes was the only way he knew to show us love.”
Even with their father incarcerated and their mother busy with two jobs, Sherron and his brother felt safe in their surroundings during their elementary school years. Each day after school they went straight to the Boys and Girls Club, where you couldn’t touch a basketball until you’d completed your homework.
Steve said the Boys and Girls Club is paying his college tuition, and Sherron shudders when he thinks of what he may have become had his mother not walked him through those doors more than a decade ago.
“In a lot of ways,” Sherron said, “you could say that club saved our lives.”
Still, while he felt safe inside the walls of the Boys and Girls Club, nothing could protect Sherron from what he saw outside.
By the time Sherron reached junior high school, the feeling of safety that existed in the projects had all but vanished. From the Kings to the Deuces to the Stones, gangs of every race were growing right along with the crime rate. It was impossible to ignore.
One morning Sherron could open his door and see men slicing a tattoo off the chest of a rival gang member. Other times things got even more violent.
“I still remember that maroon Suburban,” Steve said. “A bunch of guys would jump out and everyone would yell, ‘Get down!’ We’d start hearing shots. I’d look up and people were running past Sherron and me, shooting.
“They didn’t even look at us because we were so young. They just kept chasing people through the neighborhood with those guns.”
It all became too much for Stacey Harris. Disheartened by the murder of Cedrick Collins, she moved her family into a Madison Avenue apartment on Chicago’s west side.
That neighborhood wasn’t any better, and the situation only got worse.
Stacey said she experienced the scare of her life shortly after settling into her new home. Around midnight Sherron’s friend, Bobby Fisher, stormed through her door and told her someone was trying to rob her son.
When Stacey ran outside she found Sherron’s blue Los Angeles Dodgers cap lying in the street.
“I thought someone shot him,” Stacey said. “I thought he was dead.”
And Sherron easily could’ve been had he not fled when a man hopped out of the driver’s seat of a car and brandished a gun. Sherron said the man slipped on the icy road, which gave him a head start on a chase through the neighborhood. Eventually Sherron flagged down a stranger, who gave him a ride back to his apartment.
After that Sherron began spending more and more time at Uncle Walt’s house. As for his mother and that place on Madison Avenue?
“I picked up and moved back in with my mother in the suburbs,” Stacey said. “I’d seen all I needed to see.”
•••
Lunch trays and aluminum chairs flew through the Crane High School cafeteria during a 200-person, gang-related melee.
Even if he wanted to, Collins couldn’t have gotten involved.
“I knew all of the security guards,” Collins said. “One of them grabbed me and told me to go home. Everyone there made sure I stayed out of trouble.”
People have always looked out for Sherron Collins. Not just administrators, relatives and mentors, but gang members and drug dealers, too.
In elementary school he was known simply as “the kid who could play basketball.” So impressive was Collins on the court that some of the neighborhood’s most-feared hoodlums would show up at the Boys and Girls Club to watch his sixth-grade games.
It was the same way in high school, where Collins was popular with everyone from the student body president to the kid who’d try to fight you if you looked at him the wrong way in the hall.
That’s the thing about Collins: The people that laud him for steering clear of mischief also realize he probably couldn’t have joined a gang or gotten involved in the drug game if he had tried. And it was all because of basketball.
“If you’re a ballplayer in Chicago, you’re off limits to that kind of stuff,” said Anthony Longstreet, Collins’ high school coach. “It’s an unwritten rule: Gangs don’t draft ballplayers. Those guys are left alone.”
Collins put it more simply.
“They didn’t mess with me,” he said. “They respected me and what I was trying to do.”
Before he ever played a game at Crane, word of Collins’ prowess on the basketball court had spread throughout the city. Stacey Harris said coaches used to “flood” the nursing home where she worked, trying to persuade her to enroll Sherron in their high school.
“Until then I didn’t know seventh-graders got recruited,” Stacey said.
Eventually Collins picked Crane off of a list that included Westinghouse and Simeon. Longstreet had worked with NBA All-Star standout Kevin Garnett back in the mid-90s, and the year before Collins enrolled he’d sent Will Bynum, one of the country’s top guards, to Arizona.
“The first time I saw him play I was like, ‘Oh my God!’” said Longstreet, who made Collins a four-year starter. “He was Will Bynum all over again. The crossover, the strong body, the aggressiveness. It was like they were long-lost brothers.”
Collins found a mentor in Longstreet, who handled his college recruitment. His time at Crane also saw him grow closer to his uncle, who he’d considered a father figure since childhood.
Collins began to appreciate his uncle more and more. He moved in with him as a junior and, for the first time in his life, had to abide by a strict set of rules. No phone calls past 10, only one house guest per night, curfew on the weekends.
It was the kind of guidance Collins never received from his father — and it was almost taken away when Walt had a liver transplant in 2004. Harris lifts his shirt to expose a scar that runs from hip bone to sternum on each side.
“I called him at 4:30 in the morning as I was going into surgery,” Harris said. “I said, ‘Hopefully I make it out of this, but if I don’t, don’t let that stop you. Let it push you more and more. I want to be able to celebrate with you, but if I can’t you push forward. You go on with your life.’ ”
Walt pauses.
“I’ve tried to help that kid,” he said, “but in a lot of ways he helped me.”
•••
Before he shoots each free throw, Sherron Collins glances at the tattoo on his right forearm. Below a pair of clasped, praying hands are these words: “Sherron Jr. R.I.P.”
His stint as a father lasted fewer than two weeks, but during that time, it would have been tough to find a dad as proud as Collins. He phoned Longstreet so the coach could hear the baby crying through the receiver. Callers who were sent to Collins’ voicemail were treated to the song “Daddy” by Juelz Santana.
“I was so happy,” Collins said, “to be a father.”
It didn’t last long. About 10 days after his birth, young Sherron’s lungs stopped getting oxygen. The infection, doctors said, couldn’t be reversed. Walt said he’ll never forget what happened after Sherron arrived at Rush Medical Center.
“When Sherron got to the hospital, I told him it was time to say goodbye to his son,” Walt said. “He just broke down. We went into the room, the doctor unhooked the tubes and then handed Sherron the little baby. He sat there holding him for about 30 minutes, until …”
The sentence was left unfinished.
Collins, who had moved his things to Kansas a few weeks earlier, returned to Lawrence depressed. Friends and family members from Chicago had a tough time reaching him on the phone, and his weight ballooned to 228 pounds.
Suddenly the 5-foot-10 bulldog who threw down the left-handed tomahawk slam at the McDonald’s All-American game was one of the first ones winded during conditioning drills. His knees hurt. His back ached — and his playing time diminished.
A busload of folks from the Boys and Girls Club came to watch ku take on DePaul in Chicago, but Collins played just 14 minutes. Afterward ku coach Bill Self delivered a message: Get down to 200 pounds, or you’re not going to play.
For the next month Collins endured three cardio workouts a day. He also ate every meal in the presence of a ku staff member.
While the pounds — 26 of them — melted away, Collins’ playing time began to increase. Midway through the Big 12 season, he’d become one of ku’s best performers, and some would argue he’s been the best.
His 23 points helped ku eke out an 80-77 victory over Missouri at Allen Fieldhouse, and he had 20 in the Jayhawks’ win over K-State in Manhattan. Suddenly a Kansas offense that sometimes appeared stagnant had life thanks to Collins, who during one stretch had 14 assists and only two turnovers.
“Everyone here admires Sherron,” Self said. “It’s obvious that, at some point in his life, he came to a crossroads where he had to choose one kind of life or the other. That he is where is he now shows you that, deep down, he’s a winner.”
•••
Back at Buffalo Wild Wings, Collins can’t stop thinking about playing against Texas. The Longhorns have defeated Texas A&M, meaning a victory Saturday would give ku the outright Big 12 title.
Uncle Walt and Mom are flying in for the occasion, a treat considering she missed almost all of his high school games because of work.
Afterward Sherron hopes they can all gather for a nice dinner and then maybe meet up with roommate Brady Morningstar, a ku guard whose parents live in Lawrence.
“Sherron and I do everything together,” Morningstar said. “He doesn’t like to be alone.’
The Morningstars have become Collins’ second family, their house — complete with a pool table and big-screen TV — a second home.
“That family has been a godsend for Sherron,” Longstreet said. “It’s good for him to know that there are people like that in this world. People that care about him for who he is instead of who he can be.”
Collins and Morningstar push away from the table, leaving their wing bones behind as walk out the door onto Massachusetts Street. It’s cold and rainy outside, but Collins doesn’t seem to care, as he struts slowly to the car, sending text messages along the way.
There’s no threat of gunfire, no gang members on the street corner. Just a free night to see a movie or hang out at Wal-Mart, where Sherron and Brady sometimes spend hours walking each aisle until their basket is full of things they probably don’t need.
“Getting away from that stuff … sometimes I feel like I’m on a vacation,” Collins said. “I’m just glad there are people in my life that made me see a different way.”
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No one here is going to read, fall for that Jayhawk agitprop.
Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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THE GREAT ESCAPE
ku freshman guard Sherron Collins discovers that life is a lot different in Lawrence after growing up on the mean streets of Chicago.
By JASON KING
The Kansas City Star
CHICAGO | Some say Sherron Collins’ neighborhood is getting safer, but a few weeks ago, on North Leavitt Street, a girl was stabbed in the temple with a scalpel.
Happened just down the sidewalk from the Chicago Boys and Girls Club, where tonight members of the Kings and Deuces linger on the porch, smoking cigarettes while rehashing the gang fight that erupted a short time ago in the gymnasium.
“You missed it by 10 minutes,” says program coordinator Nick Sanchez, still somewhat out of breath from breaking up the fracas. “This one was pretty bad.”
A block away, on the corner of Damen and Diversey, a middle-aged man paces back and forth, almost to a cadence, never taking more than three steps before reversing his course. He’s babbling to himself and flailing his arms in unpredictable directions, a sign that he may be on crack.
The man holds out his hand as two women approach near the intersection. He asks them for money, but they pretend not to see him as they wave and peer through the window of each passing car.
Treena and Charisma wear white mini-skirts and black leather boots that extend above their knees. They won’t give their last names, but they admit to being prostitutes. Treena, 19, interlocks arms with her friend. They always work together.
“Around here,” she says, “you never go anywhere alone.”
Nearly 600 miles away, at Buffalo Wild Wings in Lawrence, Collins is plowing through a basket of mini corn dogs as he watches a college basketball game. On Saturday he’ll be the one playing on national television when Kansas takes on Texas for the Big 12 title.
Collins, a freshman, is averaging nearly 10 points a game for the third-ranked Jayhawks. Still, as impressive as he’s been on the court, the amazing thing about Collins is that he’s even here.
Here, instead of in jail like his father, a gangbanger who spent most of Sherron’s childhood in prison for selling drugs.
Here, instead of a coffin like his best friend, Cedrick, who was hit in the head with a bullet during a drive-by shooting just 50 feet from Sherron’s front porch.
Here, instead of holed up at his mom’s place back in Chicago, depressed and defeated over the death of his infant son last summer. Born four months early on June 3, Sherron Jr. lived just 10 days before an infection overtook his lungs.
“Sherron’s only 19, but some of the stuff he’s been through — some of the stuff he’s seen — most people will never experience stuff like that in their whole life,” said Walt Harris, Collins’ uncle. “He had every opportunity to let his situation get the best of him.
“But he saw there was a different path.”
•••
Thirty seconds after the door slammed at Apartment 2868, Sherron Collins heard gun shots. And, eventually, screams.
Cedrick Collins (no relation to Sherron) had been hit with a stray bullet moments after walking out of Sherron’s living room at the Lathrop Homes housing complex on the near northwest side of Chicago. By the time Sherron made it outside, his best friend of 10 years was basically dead.
“His hat was lying a few feet away and his head was in a big puddle of blood,” Sherron said. “He moved a little bit, but whenever I tried to get him to talk, he couldn’t say anything.”
A few days later, at a local hospital, Cedrick was taken off of life support. He was 16.
“Sometimes I see interviews on TV or hear people talking about how tough they had it growing up,” Collins said. “I never say anything out loud but, in the back of my head, I’m thinking, ‘You have no clue.’ ”
The book on Sherron Marlon Collins was established early.
Within a year of his birth in March 1987, Sherron had learned to dribble a basketball in front of his walker. By the time he was 9, he was embarrassing grown men in pick-up games at neighborhood picnics.
Sherron’s mother, Stacey Harris, worked two jobs as a certified nursing assistant and rarely came home before midnight. Then there was Dad, who couldn’t offer much support from his jail cell.
Like his son, Steven Collins was once a standout on the Chicago high school basketball scene, playing at St. James against the likes of Windy City legend Tim Hardaway.
Steven, though, dropped out of school his junior year. He eventually joined a gang and began selling drugs, a trade he practiced even after fathering Sherron and his older brother, Steve.
“We were living in the projects, but we had all the nice clothes and all the latest video games,” said Steve Collins, now 21 and a student at West Valley College in San Jose, Calif. “But he was never there for us. He was never that male figure we needed because he was in and out of prison.
“People in the neighborhood called him the Gym Shoe Daddy, because buying Sherron and me gym shoes was the only way he knew to show us love.”
Even with their father incarcerated and their mother busy with two jobs, Sherron and his brother felt safe in their surroundings during their elementary school years. Each day after school they went straight to the Boys and Girls Club, where you couldn’t touch a basketball until you’d completed your homework.
Steve said the Boys and Girls Club is paying his college tuition, and Sherron shudders when he thinks of what he may have become had his mother not walked him through those doors more than a decade ago.
“In a lot of ways,” Sherron said, “you could say that club saved our lives.”
Still, while he felt safe inside the walls of the Boys and Girls Club, nothing could protect Sherron from what he saw outside.
By the time Sherron reached junior high school, the feeling of safety that existed in the projects had all but vanished. From the Kings to the Deuces to the Stones, gangs of every race were growing right along with the crime rate. It was impossible to ignore.
One morning Sherron could open his door and see men slicing a tattoo off the chest of a rival gang member. Other times things got even more violent.
“I still remember that maroon Suburban,” Steve said. “A bunch of guys would jump out and everyone would yell, ‘Get down!’ We’d start hearing shots. I’d look up and people were running past Sherron and me, shooting.
“They didn’t even look at us because we were so young. They just kept chasing people through the neighborhood with those guns.”
It all became too much for Stacey Harris. Disheartened by the murder of Cedrick Collins, she moved her family into a Madison Avenue apartment on Chicago’s west side.
That neighborhood wasn’t any better, and the situation only got worse.
Stacey said she experienced the scare of her life shortly after settling into her new home. Around midnight Sherron’s friend, Bobby Fisher, stormed through her door and told her someone was trying to rob her son.
When Stacey ran outside she found Sherron’s blue Los Angeles Dodgers cap lying in the street.
“I thought someone shot him,” Stacey said. “I thought he was dead.”
And Sherron easily could’ve been had he not fled when a man hopped out of the driver’s seat of a car and brandished a gun. Sherron said the man slipped on the icy road, which gave him a head start on a chase through the neighborhood. Eventually Sherron flagged down a stranger, who gave him a ride back to his apartment.
After that Sherron began spending more and more time at Uncle Walt’s house. As for his mother and that place on Madison Avenue?
“I picked up and moved back in with my mother in the suburbs,” Stacey said. “I’d seen all I needed to see.”
•••
Lunch trays and aluminum chairs flew through the Crane High School cafeteria during a 200-person, gang-related melee.
Even if he wanted to, Collins couldn’t have gotten involved.
“I knew all of the security guards,” Collins said. “One of them grabbed me and told me to go home. Everyone there made sure I stayed out of trouble.”
People have always looked out for Sherron Collins. Not just administrators, relatives and mentors, but gang members and drug dealers, too.
In elementary school he was known simply as “the kid who could play basketball.” So impressive was Collins on the court that some of the neighborhood’s most-feared hoodlums would show up at the Boys and Girls Club to watch his sixth-grade games.
It was the same way in high school, where Collins was popular with everyone from the student body president to the kid who’d try to fight you if you looked at him the wrong way in the hall.
That’s the thing about Collins: The people that laud him for steering clear of mischief also realize he probably couldn’t have joined a gang or gotten involved in the drug game if he had tried. And it was all because of basketball.
“If you’re a ballplayer in Chicago, you’re off limits to that kind of stuff,” said Anthony Longstreet, Collins’ high school coach. “It’s an unwritten rule: Gangs don’t draft ballplayers. Those guys are left alone.”
Collins put it more simply.
“They didn’t mess with me,” he said. “They respected me and what I was trying to do.”
Before he ever played a game at Crane, word of Collins’ prowess on the basketball court had spread throughout the city. Stacey Harris said coaches used to “flood” the nursing home where she worked, trying to persuade her to enroll Sherron in their high school.
“Until then I didn’t know seventh-graders got recruited,” Stacey said.
Eventually Collins picked Crane off of a list that included Westinghouse and Simeon. Longstreet had worked with NBA All-Star standout Kevin Garnett back in the mid-90s, and the year before Collins enrolled he’d sent Will Bynum, one of the country’s top guards, to Arizona.
“The first time I saw him play I was like, ‘Oh my God!’” said Longstreet, who made Collins a four-year starter. “He was Will Bynum all over again. The crossover, the strong body, the aggressiveness. It was like they were long-lost brothers.”
Collins found a mentor in Longstreet, who handled his college recruitment. His time at Crane also saw him grow closer to his uncle, who he’d considered a father figure since childhood.
Collins began to appreciate his uncle more and more. He moved in with him as a junior and, for the first time in his life, had to abide by a strict set of rules. No phone calls past 10, only one house guest per night, curfew on the weekends.
It was the kind of guidance Collins never received from his father — and it was almost taken away when Walt had a liver transplant in 2004. Harris lifts his shirt to expose a scar that runs from hip bone to sternum on each side.
“I called him at 4:30 in the morning as I was going into surgery,” Harris said. “I said, ‘Hopefully I make it out of this, but if I don’t, don’t let that stop you. Let it push you more and more. I want to be able to celebrate with you, but if I can’t you push forward. You go on with your life.’ ”
Walt pauses.
“I’ve tried to help that kid,” he said, “but in a lot of ways he helped me.”
•••
Before he shoots each free throw, Sherron Collins glances at the tattoo on his right forearm. Below a pair of clasped, praying hands are these words: “Sherron Jr. R.I.P.”
His stint as a father lasted fewer than two weeks, but during that time, it would have been tough to find a dad as proud as Collins. He phoned Longstreet so the coach could hear the baby crying through the receiver. Callers who were sent to Collins’ voicemail were treated to the song “Daddy” by Juelz Santana.
“I was so happy,” Collins said, “to be a father.”
It didn’t last long. About 10 days after his birth, young Sherron’s lungs stopped getting oxygen. The infection, doctors said, couldn’t be reversed. Walt said he’ll never forget what happened after Sherron arrived at Rush Medical Center.
“When Sherron got to the hospital, I told him it was time to say goodbye to his son,” Walt said. “He just broke down. We went into the room, the doctor unhooked the tubes and then handed Sherron the little baby. He sat there holding him for about 30 minutes, until …”
The sentence was left unfinished.
Collins, who had moved his things to Kansas a few weeks earlier, returned to Lawrence depressed. Friends and family members from Chicago had a tough time reaching him on the phone, and his weight ballooned to 228 pounds.
Suddenly the 5-foot-10 bulldog who threw down the left-handed tomahawk slam at the McDonald’s All-American game was one of the first ones winded during conditioning drills. His knees hurt. His back ached — and his playing time diminished.
A busload of folks from the Boys and Girls Club came to watch ku take on DePaul in Chicago, but Collins played just 14 minutes. Afterward ku coach Bill Self delivered a message: Get down to 200 pounds, or you’re not going to play.
For the next month Collins endured three cardio workouts a day. He also ate every meal in the presence of a ku staff member.
While the pounds — 26 of them — melted away, Collins’ playing time began to increase. Midway through the Big 12 season, he’d become one of ku’s best performers, and some would argue he’s been the best.
His 23 points helped ku eke out an 80-77 victory over Missouri at Allen Fieldhouse, and he had 20 in the Jayhawks’ win over K-State in Manhattan. Suddenly a Kansas offense that sometimes appeared stagnant had life thanks to Collins, who during one stretch had 14 assists and only two turnovers.
“Everyone here admires Sherron,” Self said. “It’s obvious that, at some point in his life, he came to a crossroads where he had to choose one kind of life or the other. That he is where is he now shows you that, deep down, he’s a winner.”
•••
Back at Buffalo Wild Wings, Collins can’t stop thinking about playing against Texas. The Longhorns have defeated Texas A&M, meaning a victory Saturday would give ku the outright Big 12 title.
Uncle Walt and Mom are flying in for the occasion, a treat considering she missed almost all of his high school games because of work.
Afterward Sherron hopes they can all gather for a nice dinner and then maybe meet up with roommate Brady Morningstar, a ku guard whose parents live in Lawrence.
“Sherron and I do everything together,” Morningstar said. “He doesn’t like to be alone.’
The Morningstars have become Collins’ second family, their house — complete with a pool table and big-screen TV — a second home.
“That family has been a godsend for Sherron,” Longstreet said. “It’s good for him to know that there are people like that in this world. People that care about him for who he is instead of who he can be.”
Collins and Morningstar push away from the table, leaving their wing bones behind as walk out the door onto Massachusetts Street. It’s cold and rainy outside, but Collins doesn’t seem to care, as he struts slowly to the car, sending text messages along the way.
There’s no threat of gunfire, no gang members on the street corner. Just a free night to see a movie or hang out at Wal-Mart, where Sherron and Brady sometimes spend hours walking each aisle until their basket is full of things they probably don’t need.
“Getting away from that stuff … sometimes I feel like I’m on a vacation,” Collins said. “I’m just glad there are people in my life that made me see a different way.”
This must be a script for the after school movie I watched last week. This is the same story as every other "HOOD" near New York, Chicago, Miami, L.A., etc...etc... And I will repeat these are not the only ways out. He could have gotten a job and worked at the corner store through high school gone to community college, maybe even get a scholarship - academics :lol:. To a 4 year school got an accounting degree or business degree.
It's people like you who hold these guys down telling them they can't make it unless they are a gang banger or athlete. I have more faith in these individuals than you, you must be racist.
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My God, Sheron Collins is a HUGE liar.
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My God, Sheron Collins is a HUGE liar.
All black people from chicago are in GANGS!
:nono:
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pls never copy/paste jason king on this site again
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pls never copy/paste jason king on this site again
what about the article where he claimed sasha kaun's dad was murdered?
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I heard the only reason Collins plays hoops is because he couldn't get into any of the good gangs.
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I heard the only reason Collins plays hoops is because he couldn't get into any of the good gangs.
probably too fat and got winded running away from crimes he committed.
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I heard the only reason Collins plays hoops is because he couldn't get into any of the good gangs.
probably too fat and got winded running away from crimes he committed.
He tried to rush the Wrigleyville Schooner Boys but they wouldn't have him
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I heard the only reason Collins plays hoops is because he couldn't get into any of the good gangs.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I heard the only reason Collins plays hoops is because he couldn't get into any of the good gangs.
:lol: :lol:
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I have yet to see Sherron Collins throw a bitch punch at the back of someone's head or get kicked off of his team. Collins is a saint compared to Clemente.
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Don't do that please.
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actually the threat of gunfire in lawrence isn't exactly true these days.
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who is clemente?
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who is clemente?
some d00d that is apparently in a gang or something.
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No wonder Collins chose ku. They are blue, just like his hometown Crip Gang.
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Stupid story and BMW completely ignores the rapper escape from the hood.
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You stay trashy, JT.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/)
Collins lost his firstborn son, Sherron Jr., who lived just 10 days after being born four months premature on June 3, 2006.
"Things have got to go on, but I miss him a lot," said Collins, who visits his son's gravesite when he can and has honored his memory with a tattoo on his own forearm that says "R.I.P. Sherron, Jr."
"Before every free throw, I look at him before I shoot."
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/10/13/SherronCollinsFam_t300.jpg)
she looks classy
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This is brutal.
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KSU fans show why they are irrelevant to the Big 12 and the entire country in this thread. Sherron Collins has more NCAA titles to his name than the entire KSU athletic department. That is sad, so sad for KSU. And you people wonder why!
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KSU fans show why they are irrelevant to the Big 12 and the entire country in this thread. Sherron Collins has more NCAA titles to his name than the entire KSU athletic department. That is sad, so sad for KSU. And you people wonder why!
NO! ku has more titles Sharon was on that TEAM. He did not do it alone. You sir should cut off at least on of your fingers so it isn't as easy to write your garbage on this site.
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OMFG, Sharon is a loser.
Tell me about it bro
:base5:
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I have yet to see Sherron Collins throw a bitch punch at the back of someone's head or get kicked off of his team. Collins is a saint compared to Clemente.
If given the choice, I'd rather be kicked off an athletic team than rub my fracking d!ck on an unsuspecting girl in an elevator.
But, that's just me.
:dunno:
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You're still holding onto that even though the charges were dropped? Nice.
:lol:
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You're still holding onto that even though the charges were dropped? Nice.
:lol:
OJ Simpson is still a murderer, too.
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You stay trashy, JT.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/oct/13/sixmonthold_son_motivates_kus_collins/)
Collins lost his firstborn son, Sherron Jr., who lived just 10 days after being born four months premature on June 3, 2006.
"Things have got to go on, but I miss him a lot," said Collins, who visits his son's gravesite when he can and has honored his memory with a tattoo on his own forearm that says "R.I.P. Sherron, Jr."
"Before every free throw, I look at him before I shoot."
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/10/13/SherronCollinsFam_t300.jpg)
she looks classy
So he looks at a trashy Tat on his arm before he shoots?
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You're still holding onto that even though the charges were dropped? Nice.
:lol:
OJ Simpson is still a murderer, too.
His charges were never dropped, though. Try to keep up.
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BMW just because the charges were dropped doesn't mean he didn't do it. And if you think thats okay then you seriously have an ethics issue.
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In America, you're innocent until proven guilty. Of course, K-State fans still insist that Collins did it even though the justice system took a look at the case and decided to drop the charges. Make no mistake, if it were the other way around, K-State fans would be rushing to the guy's defense. Since he plays for ku, he's guilty by association. You've gotta love the double standard.
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In America, you're innocent until proven guilty. Of course, K-State fans still insist that Collins did it even though the justice system took a look at the case and decided to drop the charges. Make no mistake, if it were the other way around, K-State fans would be rushing to the guy's defense. Since he plays for ku, he's guilty by association. You've gotta love the double standard.
how does this excuse the dead child? :confused:
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In America, you're innocent until proven guilty. Of course, K-State fans still insist that Collins did it even though the justice system took a look at the case and decided to drop the charges. Make no mistake, if it were the other way around, K-State fans would be rushing to the guy's defense. Since he plays for ku, he's guilty by association. You've gotta love the double standard.
how does this excuse the dead child? :confused:
Last time I checked, the baby died because it was born four months premature. You stay trashy, though.
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dece excuse for the death of a human being i guess. :confused:
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No, you're right. It was Sherron Collins' fault that his first son was born four months premature. What was I thinking?
:dunno:
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His penis' fault
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His penis' fault
QFT
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POWERCAT NEWS!
So I hung out with my sister's boyfriend (big time EMAWer) on Sat. after they got back from Marcus Watts' wedding in KC. We tried to talk sports (christ he hates those jayhawks). Anyway, he was filled with hilarious purple info:
Was friends with Dylan Meier. Dude was awesome and really f*cked up. Got really wasted a lot. Shoved pain killers in his ass.
Lives in the same condo complex as Clemente. Says Denis lives with some hot eastern european babe. And when I say eastern european, I don't mean someone with the last name kowalski or some sh1t, but actually from e europe with an accent and everything. Also smokes the weed. Lots of it. Comes by the boyfriend-in-law's all the time to get fired up. I like to smoke pot. I think I'm also starting to like Denis.
Also, Watts had a Crown Royal fountain at his reception. Thought that was lame and dumb. Don't like him as much.
emaw.
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POWERCAT NEWS!
So I hung out with my sister's boyfriend (big time EMAWer) on Sat. after they got back from Marcus Watts' wedding in KC. We tried to talk sports (christ he hates those jayhawks). Anyway, he was filled with hilarious purple info:
Was friends with Dylan Meier. Dude was awesome and really f*cked up. Got really wasted a lot. Shoved pain killers in his ass.
Lives in the same condo complex as Clemente. Says Denis lives with some hot eastern european babe. And when I say eastern european, I don't mean someone with the last name kowalski or some sh1t, but actually from e europe with an accent and everything. Also smokes the weed. Lots of it. Comes by the boyfriend-in-law's all the time to get fired up. I like to smoke pot. I think I'm also starting to like Denis.
Also, Watts had a Crown Royal fountain at his reception. Thought that was lame and dumb. Don't like him as much.
emaw.
Your analysis of EMAW athletes is f^cking spot on.
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POWERCAT NEWS!
So I hung out with my sister's boyfriend (big time EMAWer) on Sat. after they got back from Marcus Watts' wedding in KC. We tried to talk sports (christ he hates those jayhawks). Anyway, he was filled with hilarious purple info:
Was friends with Dylan Meier. Dude was awesome and really f*cked up. Got really wasted a lot. Shoved pain killers in his ass.
Lives in the same condo complex as Clemente. Says Denis lives with some hot eastern european babe. And when I say eastern european, I don't mean someone with the last name kowalski or some sh1t, but actually from e europe with an accent and everything. Also smokes the weed. Lots of it. Comes by the boyfriend-in-law's all the time to get fired up. I like to smoke pot. I think I'm also starting to like Denis.
Also, Watts had a Crown Royal fountain at his reception. Thought that was lame and dumb. Don't like him as much.
emaw.
:notworthy: I pretty much don't compare to this dude in terms of EMAJ eliteness.
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love the ku fans making excuses for infanticide. great human beings.
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Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Once again we are basing this on the better overall player. Not the players that are around him or the team that he plays on.
Okay, then....
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
Sharon- One dead baby.
Denis- Zero dead babies.
I rest my case.
You- cocks in both mouth and ass :jerkoff:
Me- no cocks close to mouth or ass
I rest my case
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POWERCAT NEWS!
So I hung out with my sister's boyfriend (big time EMAWer) on Sat. after they got back from Marcus Watts' wedding in KC. We tried to talk sports (christ he hates those jayhawks). Anyway, he was filled with hilarious purple info:
Was friends with Dylan Meier. Dude was awesome and really f*cked up. Got really wasted a lot. Shoved pain killers in his ass.
Lives in the same condo complex as Clemente. Says Denis lives with some hot eastern european babe. And when I say eastern european, I don't mean someone with the last name kowalski or some sh1t, but actually from e europe with an accent and everything. Also smokes the weed. Lots of it. Comes by the boyfriend-in-law's all the time to get fired up. I like to smoke pot. I think I'm also starting to like Denis.
Also, Watts had a Crown Royal fountain at his reception. Thought that was lame and dumb. Don't like him as much.
emaw.
i felt like i was wearing 3-D glasses when i read that post. incred job BT.
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I have a cock close to my ass. It's mine. My cock.
And thank you, 'clams. It was fun to write. Pretty good day all around. If I can find a way to get a handskie later, it will be an A+ day. emaw.
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In America, you're innocent until proven guilty. Of course, K-State fans still insist that Collins did it even though the justice system took a look at the case and decided to drop the charges. Make no mistake, if it were the other way around, K-State fans would be rushing to the guy's defense. Since he plays for ku, he's guilty by association. You've gotta love the double standard.
Wow Wow my friend that may be true with some people but when Ell made his mistake during the Fiesta bowl I thought he should have sat out a quarter or 2 but thats not me dude.
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Accomplishments:
Sherron Collins - National Championship, 5 Big 12 titles, 2nd team All-American, 1st team All Big 12, McDonald's All-American
Denis Clemente - 2nd round NIT loss, 4th place (tie) for Big 12, 2nd team All Big 12, Big 12 Newcomer of the Year
Once again we are basing this on the better overall player. Not the players that are around him or the team that he plays on.
Okay, then....
Stats:
Sherron Collins - 18.9 ppg, 5.0 apg
Denis Clemente - 15.0 ppg, 3.5 apg
Sharon- One dead baby.
Denis- Zero dead babies.
I rest my case.
You- cocks in both mouth and ass :jerkoff:
Me- no cocks close to mouth or ass
I rest my case
Probably one of the worst attempts at a post I have ever seen.
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You're still holding onto that even though the charges were dropped? Nice.
:lol:
OJ Simpson is still a murderer, too.
His charges were never dropped, though. Try to keep up.
You would drop the charges too when sweet Lew 'deep pockets' Perkins drops a nice chunk of change into a private bank account with your name on it.