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Title: lb's an issue
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 03, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
we need some "playmaking abils" here, which i don't think we currently have. kind of disapointing, really.


But, maybe LB's aren't such a big deal in the new "spread offense" day and age*?


*shout out to cas
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 03, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
snyder and co. are scheming the D to "fit" this teams "strengths".
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 03, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
thanks. sure seemed like it. 4-2-5, means not as many lbs on the field
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: Winters on May 03, 2009, 12:03:50 PM
When you lose a great human being like Reggie Walker, your going to have a problem
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: ksu98 on May 03, 2009, 12:48:27 PM
From what I saw Harold and whoever the other defensive end is whether it be Terrell or Valentine or kirk etc. has outside contain meaning that Hrebec & Houlik won't have to cover the whole field making their jobs much easier because now they can attack and squeeze gaps hope this helps fatty.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: KSUME on May 03, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
So who's on coverage for outside screens and swing passes out of the backfield ? I seem to recall those being the plays that went for 30-40 yds a hit last year against us.
 :confused:
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: Bookcat on May 03, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
we're currently coaching up Logan Dold to be the ballhawker he was meant to be. :scared:
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: 85catbacker on May 03, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
we're currently coaching up Logan Dold to be the ballhawker he was meant to be. :scared:
Heard that Dold did not play. Injury, discipline, not ready after the switch, or keeping switch under wraps?
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: ksu98 on May 03, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
So who's on coverage for outside screens and swing passes out of the backfield ? I seem to recall those being the plays that went for 30-40 yds a hit last year against us.
 :confused:
It depends on what coverage we drop into if we drop into cover 2 it will be the corners responsibility because they have flats responsibility in cover 2 however cover 3 will require that a DE makes the play because they will drop into a hook zone if cover 3. Do you need a diagram or do you understand?  
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: ksu98 on May 03, 2009, 01:21:09 PM
we're currently coaching up Logan Dold to be the ballhawker he was meant to be. :scared:
Heard that Dold did not play. Injury, discipline, not ready after the switch, or keeping switch under wraps?

Injured knee.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 03, 2009, 02:25:58 PM
From what I saw Harold and whoever the other defensive end is whether it be Terrell or Valentine or kirk etc. has outside contain meaning that Hrebec & Houlik won't have to cover the whole field making their jobs much easier because now they can attack and squeeze gaps hope this helps fatty.

interesting....

we didn't do this last year? the de's just rushed?
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: catzacker on May 03, 2009, 02:34:22 PM
From what I saw Harold and whoever the other defensive end is whether it be Terrell or Valentine or kirk etc. has outside contain meaning that Hrebec & Houlik won't have to cover the whole field making their jobs much easier because now they can attack and squeeze gaps hope this helps fatty.

interesting....

we didn't do this last year? the de's just rushed?

no, our LB's had to fill gaps just like they did last year.  they just have different gaps to get crushed in now.  hopefully this year though our DL will require more than just one on one blocking and it will help keep blockers away from our LBs.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: MOKSUAZ on May 03, 2009, 02:39:29 PM
From what I saw Harold and whoever the other defensive end is whether it be Terrell or Valentine or kirk etc. has outside contain meaning that Hrebec & Houlik won't have to cover the whole field making their jobs much easier because now they can attack and squeeze gaps hope this helps fatty.

interesting....

we didn't do this last year? the de's just rushed?

no, our LB's had to fill gaps just like they did last year.  they just have different gaps to get crushed in now.  hopefully this year though our DL will require more than just one on one blocking and it will help keep blockers away from our LBs.

plus when we were in the 3-4 the two outside LBs were basically 1-3 yards off the LOS outside the tackles leaving the remaining two LBs on an island.  having the extra guy in the secondary in the 4-2-5 will hopefully minimize the 20+ yard gains we saw a lot last year.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on May 03, 2009, 03:24:42 PM
So who's on coverage for outside screens and swing passes out of the backfield ? I seem to recall those being the plays that went for 30-40 yds a hit last year against us.
 :confused:
It depends on what coverage we drop into if we drop into cover 2 it will be the corners responsibility because they have flats responsibility in cover 2 however cover 3 will require that a DE makes the play because they will drop into a hook zone if cover 3. Do you need a diagram or do you understand?  

Where does the third safety go in cover 2?  Rather, where the he!! does he line-up and go most of the time?  Is he like a LB hybrid?

That Ginger walk-on LB had 19 tackles yesterday, he was pretty good last year relative to those Eleileielie LB's with pony tails who looked like they needed a compass to find the guy with the ball.  He at least had the intensity to play defense in college.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: PanicTeacher on May 03, 2009, 04:31:29 PM
So who's on coverage for outside screens and swing passes out of the backfield ? I seem to recall those being the plays that went for 30-40 yds a hit last year against us.
 :confused:
It depends on what coverage we drop into if we drop into cover 2 it will be the corners responsibility because they have flats responsibility in cover 2 however cover 3 will require that a DE makes the play because they will drop into a hook zone if cover 3. Do you need a diagram or do you understand?  

I think your diagram would be wrong
In cover 3 the Strong Safeties / Outside LB (whatever you want to call them) would have curl to flats.  D-Ends have no coverage responsibility except if their is zone pressure and dropping. 
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: doom on May 03, 2009, 05:11:09 PM
We have potentially the best LB in the Big12.  He's just playing WR.
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: The Manhatter on May 03, 2009, 05:48:08 PM
no, our LB's had to fill gaps just like they did last year.  they just have different gaps to get crushed in now.  hopefully this year though our DL will require more than just one on one blocking and it will help keep blockers away from our LBs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjbuIH30IQ

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Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 03, 2009, 05:51:12 PM
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjbuIH30IQ

haha. remeber the justin.tv kentucky basketball game where i kept replaying this particular play over and over before the tipoff. good times, kind of,
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: Pett on May 03, 2009, 09:03:05 PM
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjbuIH30IQ

haha. remeber the justin.tv kentucky basketball game where i kept replaying this particular play over and over before the tipoff. good times, kind of,

I do. Don't forget to mention that you also played this year's OU game over and over. :blindfold:
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on May 03, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
where was ulla and hanson yesterday?  any chance they're good this year?
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: ksu98 on May 03, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
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Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 04, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Is "SackMaster" a linebacker?  How did he look?
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: hemmy on May 04, 2009, 12:27:15 PM
He played on Dline for 2nd team IIRC
Title: Re: lb's an issue
Post by: jrod06 on May 04, 2009, 12:33:23 PM
Dold has been working primarily with the safeties and did not play because of an injured  shoulder thanks to Jerrel Childs trucking him during practice.