did he say whether ksu's qb was better than the 4A school's qb?
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
Great thread.
If what this is actually what a "4A varsity coach" said; he's either a) a pathetic coach or b) a ridiculous homer ku fan.
Maybe both.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold Coffman is remotely the answer here, but to make some sort of assessment by watching a handful of practices is just silly. And I'm sure going against Ottawa's vaunted defense compared to K-State's or ku's (not that ours is going to be good) had nothing to do with how good the respective QBs looked.
Great thread.
If what this is actually what a "4A varsity coach" said; he's either a) a pathetic coach or b) a ridiculous homer ku fan.
Maybe both.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold Coffman is remotely the answer here, but to make some sort of assessment by watching a handful of practices is just silly. And I'm sure going against Ottawa's vaunted defense compared to K-State's or ku's (not that ours is going to be good) had nothing to do with how good the respective QBs looked.
Not only that, I seriously doubt OB let a 4A high school coach in for a 'handful' of practices.
Thread of the fracking day.
Great thread.
If what this is actually what a "4A varsity coach" said; he's either a) a pathetic coach or b) a ridiculous homer ku fan.
Maybe both.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold Coffman is remotely the answer here, but to make some sort of assessment by watching a handful of practices is just silly. And I'm sure going against Ottawa's vaunted defense compared to K-State's or ku's (not that ours is going to be good) had nothing to do with how good the respective QBs looked.
Not only that, I seriously doubt OB let a 4A high school coach in for a 'handful' of practices.
Thread of the fracking day.^^^ THIS ^^^
I call :bs: on this, nice try but last time I checked OBz doesn't allow folks to drop in for a looksie at practices.:baitno:
better luck next time - nothing to see here.
Great thread.
If what this is actually what a "4A varsity coach" said; he's either a) a pathetic coach or b) a ridiculous homer ku fan.
Maybe both.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold Coffman is remotely the answer here, but to make some sort of assessment by watching a handful of practices is just silly. And I'm sure going against Ottawa's vaunted defense compared to K-State's or ku's (not that ours is going to be good) had nothing to do with how good the respective QBs looked.
Not only that, I seriously doubt OB let a 4A high school coach in for a 'handful' of practices.
Thread of the fracking day.^^^ THIS ^^^
I call :bs: on this, nice try but last time I checked OBz doesn't allow folks to drop in for a looksie at practices.:baitno:
better luck next time - nothing to see here.
Coaches Clinic was last weekend, so this guy could've seen a couple practices there.
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
Nope... ku will totally suck in '09 because they weren't good in '04. Or something like that.
And, why the frank would he go to an Ottawa University practice?
Bookcat = :flush:
Call me crazy, but I think Joseph Klein will be the starter by game 8.
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
I believe that would be Baldwin High. A crappy 4A school on the south armpit of Lowrentz.
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
I believe that would be Baldwin High. A crappy 4A school on the south armpit of Lowrentz.
Weird. Seems like there would be more room to build a town in the asshole of Lawrence. :dunno:
ku is going to absolutely skull f*ck K-State's D-2 program next season. Can't wait!
I have a friend that is student teaching this semester at a 4A high school in eastern Kansas. The teacher he is teaching under is the varsity football coach for the highschool. In the past few weeks the coach has observed practices at ku, KSU, and Ottawa Univserity to get some coaching ideas, etc. Unfortunately for you guys, he stated "k-state has the 3rd best starting quaterback" of the three. Take it for what its worth, and good luck next year. Its gonna be a while before you guys are relevant in the Big 12 north. You had a good run while it lasted though.
52-21 will look like a barn burner.
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Are you serious? The reality is that Snyder is going to have to rebuild a program left in shambles by Ron Prince. Meanwhile, ku returns Reesing, Meier, Briscoe, Stuckey, etc, etc. It's not going to be close. Please get your hopes up, though.
Yeah, losing a top 20 NFL draft pick always helps. You are delusional.
Yeah, I'm just furious that K-State no longer has a 1st round NFL QB running the offense.
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KSUTOMMY: Just quit with the predictions. You were trying to tell us how K-State would beat ku in Lawrence last season... and the score was 31-0 at halftime.
KSUTOMMY: Just quit with the predictions. You were trying to tell us how K-State would beat ku in Lawrence last season... and the score was 31-0 at halftime.
You act like coaching is going to miraculously make the crap talent that Ron Prince recruited better.well we did see tackling for the first time since the 07 Texas game yesterday..
Yeah, and Mangino did some nice things in '02 when ku went 2-10. Still didn't change the fact that ku was horrible.
KSUTOMMY: Just quit with the predictions. You were trying to tell us how K-State would beat ku in Lawrence last season... and the score was 31-0 at halftime.
link? I may have been hitting the coolaid a little bit hard last year - but it would be nice to see... FC, saying I think we will pull out a game if it's close is a pretty weak "prediction". Barnburner? No, I dont think that will happen.
Meh... I made some bad predictions for ku football last year as well. Nothing wrong with being a homer, but I just don't see how K-State is going to improve next season. You act like coaching is going to miraculously make the crap talent that Ron Prince recruited better.
Yeah, and Mangino did some nice things in '02 when ku went 2-10. Still didn't change the fact that ku was horrible.
Comparing the fat man with Snyder is laughable, at best. Kinda like saying you played football in high school and now you think you got a shot to make an NFL roster.
You are a fool. Mangino has won assistant coach of the year, national coach of the year, a BCS bowl, and a national championship. Snyder is no longer in his prime and is listed behind Mangino in every set of coaching rankings.
Yeah, and Mangino did some nice things in '02 when ku went 2-10. Still didn't change the fact that ku was horrible.
Comparing the fat man with Snyder is laughable, at best. Kinda like saying you played football in high school and now you think you got a shot to make an NFL roster.
You are a fool. Mangino has won assistant coach of the year, national coach of the year, a BCS bowl, and a national championship. Snyder is no longer in his prime and is listed behind Mangino in every set of coaching rankings.
Yeah, and Mangino did some nice things in '02 when ku went 2-10. Still didn't change the fact that ku was horrible.
Comparing the fat man with Snyder is laughable, at best. Kinda like saying you played football in high school and now you think you got a shot to make an NFL roster.
You are a fool. Mangino has won assistant coach of the year, national coach of the year, a BCS bowl, and a national championship. Snyder is no longer in his prime and is listed behind Mangino in every set of coaching rankings.
You're only fooling yourself. When 50% of the accolades you list are from his assistant coaching days, (Riding on Stoops coat tails, I might add.) you know you have a very thin case. This is what a hall of fame coaching resume looks like:
1993 9-2-1 - Copper Bowl (W)
1994 9-3-0 - Aloha Bowl (L)
1995 10-2-0 - Holiday Bowl (W)
1996 9-3-0 - Cotton Bowl (L)
1997 11-1-0 - Fiesta Bowl (W)
1998 11-2-0 - Alamo Bowl (L)
1999 11-1-0 - Holiday Bowl (W)
2000 11-3-0 - Cotton Bowl (W)
2001 6-6-0 - Insight Bowl (L)
2002 11-2-0 - Holiday Bowl (W)
2003 11-4-0 - Fiesta Bowl (L)
COACHING HONORS
2003 ESPN.com Big 12 Coach of the Year
2003 Fort Worth Star-Telegram Big 12 Coach of the Year
1998-2002 Two-Time Big 12 Coach of the Year
1998 Associated Press National Coach of the Year
1998 Walter Camp National Coach of the Year
1998 Bear Bryant National Coach of the Year
1998 Bobby Dodd National Coach of the Year
1994 CNN National Coach of the Year
1991 ESPN's National Coach of the Year
Three-time Big Eight Coach of the Year (1990, '91, '93)
Four-time Bear Bryant National Coach of the Year finalist
Finalist for ESPN's Coach of the Decade for the 1990's
But you were saying...
LOL.... you actually took the time to list all of that. Nice! I was just listing a few of Mangino's accomplishments, FYI. I noticed Snyder hasn't won 12 games in a season or a BCS Bowl. Also no national title. How many national titles has Oklahoma won since Mangino left?
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Hey JT, notice the lack of Old Balls:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/04/22/top-coaches/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/04/22/top-coaches/index.html)
Rivals top 30 college football coaches:
1. Urban Meyer, Florida. Two BCS titles in three seasons, with another in his sights.
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma. No coach can match his four BCS title game appearances.
3. Nick Saban, Alabama. First, he made LSU a national power. Now, Saban has Alabama poised to be the nation's top program.
4. Pete Carroll, USC. No program dominates its conference more. The only thing missing? More BCS titles.
5. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa. He has won big despite talent that annually ranks no better than fourth in the Big Ten each season.
6. Mack Brown, Texas. To whom much is given, much is expected. And Brown has delivered.
7. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest. Honestly, if this guy were coaching at, say, Texas, how many national titles would he have?
8. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati. He was at his best last fall, tiptoeing around myriad quarterback injuries to lead the Bearcats to the Big East title.
9. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech. He took a simple idea of building a program around defense and special teams -- and "Beamerball" -- and created a perennial power.
10. Mark Richt, Georgia. His résumé only lacks a national title. And you know one is coming.
11. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan. Not only has he won big, RichRod has helped change the sport with his offense.
12. Mike Riley, Oregon State. He is proof that nice guys don't finish last ... and that you can go home again.
13. Jim Tressel, Ohio State. Is he the best coach in Buckeyes history?
14. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State. He's a throwback coach who wins with toughness, discipline and lots of smarts.
15. Joe Paterno, Penn State. Perhaps his best trait at this stage of his career is knowing how to delegate.
16. Kyle Whittingham, Utah. He has taken what Urban Meyer built and made it better.
17. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss. He's an underrated offensive mind who has a knack for getting players to reach their potential.
18. Gary Patterson, tcu. He's a defensive mastermind whose program is every bit as good as most in the Big 12.
19. Mark Mangino, Kansas. He has done the seemingly impossible by making Jayhawks football a nationally respected program.
20. Randy Edsall, Connecticut. There isn't a more underrated coach in the nation than Edsall, a smart taskmaster who finds ways to win.
21. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina. He has lost some luster, but Spurrier still is an offensive genius.
22. Mike Leach, Texas Tech. Perhaps no coach means more to his school than Leach, whose offenses have revolutionized the sport.
23. Greg Schiano, Rutgers. He inherited one of the worst programs in America and made it into a likeness of himself -- strong, tough and good.
24. Jeff Tedford, California. The offensive wiz has done everything but lead the Golden Bears to the Pac-10 championship.
25. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State. Erickson, who has won two national titles, yearns to finish his career with a bang.
26. Gary Pinkel, Missouri. It was just a matter of time before he imposed his iron will on this program, as he did at Toledo.
27. Jim Leavitt, USF. He has built something out of nothing, making USF a Big East power.
28. Les Miles, LSU. The "Hat" has done enough to prove he belongs among the nation's elite.
29. Chris Petersen, Boise State. The cerebral Petersen understands how to find talent to fit his schemes.
30. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech. He's about ready to change the way we thought teams could win in big-time football.
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