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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Pett on April 29, 2009, 03:02:12 PM
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but how about if this Snyder experiment just totally fails? Like he goes 5-7 this season then four or five wins for the next couple of years. Do we treat him like Prince and fire him? Or because he is Bill Snyder we give him the whole five year contract to try and work some of his magic?
I mean, I don't want to be labeled a racist if we go worse then Prince's 17-20 record in the next three seasons and we keep him. :ohno:
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No worries, brah. Just enjoy the ride. :thumbsup:
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Someone please make it stop. :crybaby:
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If he wins 4-5 games for the next 3 seasons, with no signs of improvement, I would hope he would step down on his own. I mean the guy has more emaw in him than anybody.
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I just want him to lay the ground work for our next coaching search. If he can develop decent recruiting and put a respectable team together, I'll be happy. If there are no signs of any positive news after 3 years, he needs to rebuild his staff or fake his death.
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I really dont think we need to worry about wins and losses in the first year or so. Like many other poster's on this board I wil be more than happy with positive signs of improvement like solid defense and overall smart play. I know that snyder has already changed the way the players view themselves and eachother. I know this because I one of my roomates is on the team, and he plays linebacker and he definitely sees improvment. I see no reason that this team doesn't win at least 5 if not 6 games next year. :ksu:
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I really dont think we need to worry about wins and losses in the first year or so. Like many other poster's on this board I wil be more than happy with positive signs of improvement like solid defense and overall smart play. I know that snyder has already changed the way the players view themselves and eachother. I know this because I one of my roomates is on the team, and he plays linebacker and he definitely sees improvment. I see no reason that this team doesn't win at least 5 if not 6 games next year. :ksu:
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As long as the defense learns how to tackle next season I'll be happy. Nothing was more embarrassing than watching Lousiana Rajun gouge our defense for like 300+ yards rushing.
After next season if it doesn't work there's alway...It's Patterson!
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I really dont think we need to worry about wins and losses in the first year or so. Like many other poster's on this board I wil be more than happy with positive signs of improvement like solid defense and overall smart play. I know that snyder has already changed the way the players view themselves and eachother. I know this because I one of my roomates is on the team, and he plays linebacker and he definitely sees improvment. I see no reason that this team doesn't win at least 5 if not 6 games next year. :ksu:
:powertard:
Perfect use
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I just want him to lay the ground work for our next coaching search. If he can develop decent recruiting and put a respectable team together, I'll be happy. If there are no signs of any positive news after 3 years, he needs to rebuild his staff or fake his death.
Hey, he's going to be 73...he may not even have to fake it....especially if he keeps up with those 15 hour days. OR, his staff [totally fed up with 15 hour days] could put together a plan for "accidental" death.
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So I'm a powertard for being in the know with the team and being optimistic? Maybe its just me, but I do have a lot of
:kstatriot:
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Jrod, remember this is the KSUfans board. You are not supposed to be optimistic here.
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lolz, very true I will go stare at my half empty glass and frown....
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I just want him to lay the ground work for our next coaching search. If he can develop decent recruiting and put a respectable team together, I'll be happy.
This is all anyone should really expect over the next 3 years.
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i think we will see definite improvement, like no more massive ass rapings. plus, if all goes right, maybe we win 5 games....maybe
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i think we will see definite improvement, like no more massive ass rapings. plus, if all goes right, maybe we win 5 games....maybe
Do you think we will get blown out like the end of the '07 season and almost all of last season? Like teams that aren't even that good (FSU in '07 & ku in '08) completely demolish us?
Because I can't put up with the game being over at halftime anymore. I at least want to be competitive. :frown:
Is that to much to ask? :-[
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i think we will see definite improvement, like no more massive ass rapings. plus, if all goes right, maybe we win 5 games....maybe
Do you think we will get blown out like the end of the '07 season and almost all of last season? Like teams that aren't even that good (FSU in '07 & ku in '08) completely demolish us?
Because I can't put up with the game being over at halftime anymore. I at least want to be competitive. :frown:
28-28
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i think we will see definite improvement, like no more massive ass rapings. plus, if all goes right, maybe we win 5 games....maybe
Do you think we will get blown out like the end of the '07 season and almost all of last season? Like teams that aren't even that good (FSU in '07 & ku in '08) completely demolish us?
Because I can't put up with the game being over at halftime anymore. I at least want to be competitive. :frown:
28-28
52-28 at half. :crybaby:
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i think we will see definite improvement, like no more massive ass rapings. plus, if all goes right, maybe we win 5 games....maybe
Do you think we will get blown out like the end of the '07 season and almost all of last season? Like teams that aren't even that good (FSU in '07 & ku in '08) completely demolish us?
Because I can't put up with the game being over at halftime anymore. I at least want to be competitive. :frown:
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52-28 at half. :crybaby:
any really good teams we play will most likely pull away before or right after the half. i am interested to see how this team does with the new and hopefully improved coaching. i also meant to say, if things go right and fall into place, maybe we win 6 and are barely bowl eligible.
but i think competitive is the important word. i think after the louisville game we all knew what was really coming the rest of the way. i hoped and hoped game after game that we'd show some improvement and start showing some competitiveness, but i was slapped with the cold reality that it wasn't going to happen.
i think competitive will be a decent word to describe what we see this year.
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So I'm a powertard for being in the know with the team and being optimistic? Maybe its just me, but I do have a lot of
:kstatriot:
No your just a retard who is going to probably kill himself during a meltdown this season...
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So I'm a powertard for being in the know with the team and being optimistic? Maybe its just me, but I do have a lot of
:kstatriot:
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How long did it take for OB'z to turn us into a truly competitive team the first go round? And, that was with All Star assistants and very low expectations/pressure. Just getting us back to being 'competitive' again would be huge IMO. And, by competitive, I mean no more blowouts.
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I really dont think we need to worry about wins and losses in the first year or so. Like many other poster's on this board I wil be more than happy with positive signs of improvement like solid defense and overall smart play. I know that snyder has already changed the way the players view themselves and eachother. I know this because I one of my roomates is on the team, and he plays linebacker and he definitely sees improvment. I see no reason that this team doesn't win at least 5 if not 6 games next year. :ksu:
Tell your roomie that he sucks at football.
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I really dont think we need to worry about wins and losses in the first year or so. Like many other poster's on this board I wil be more than happy with positive signs of improvement like solid defense and overall smart play. I know that snyder has already changed the way the players view themselves and eachother. I know this because I one of my roomates is on the team, and he plays linebacker and he definitely sees improvment. I see no reason that this team doesn't win at least 5 if not 6 games next year. :ksu:
Tell your roomie that he sucks at football.
Looking at the roster, there's about a 97% chance that he actually does.
:ksu:
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Jrod, remember this is the KSUfans board. You are not supposed to be optimistic here.
WTF? Go over to the hoops board and look at all of the optimism. Blind optimism is retarded. Well placed optimism and well place pessimism is for intellectual elites like myself and my bros. Got to get to English class before morning bell. See you later.
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I will say this; I do think there are fundamental things that Prince let go that Snyder will improve drastically. Its obvious Prince tried an approach that was much looser, had some serious issues with his schemes, and failed to recruit at a high level. That's just a horrible combination; perhaps if he had been able to recruit at a high, high level he might have had more success, but that simply wasn't the case. And that set back the program a ton, especially for the type of program we have to be, and that must be fixed first.
Now, I think the ultimate key to Snyder's success will be the recruiting part, but I do trust that he will at least fix the other 2 major deficiencies that Prince had. Granted, Snyder has pretty much prove in today's college football (his final 2 seasons) that just those 2 things won't carry enough weight if you don't recruit. So we will see.
And if this doesn't work my hope is this; 1st that Snyder will at least leave a solid enough foundation that will allow for a great chance for a new competent coach to succeed. I mean this is certainly positive spin; look at what Prince was able to achieve with what Snyder left him fairly quickly. And also look how quickly things can slip if some of the major things Snyder emphasizes aren't maintained at a school like K-State, especially if you don't recruit.
2nd Snyder's replacement will be a huge test for the new president and whoever we hire as AD. Whatever he does, Snyder probalby won't be here past 6-7 years at the most. So whatever the case, we'll have at least that to look forward to, if you can look forward to such things.
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I don't even want to watch games next year unless we're good late in the season.
I've gone from angry about snyder to completely apathetic about the entire program.
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lol at thinking 5 or 6 wins is optimistic. if snyder can't win 5 or 6 games next year it'll be a spectacular failure.
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How many wins are you expecting? Which games? Seriously.
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I would like to have a time machine that also changes stuff in the past so I could see how many games snyds would win vs. how many Patterson would win.
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lol at thinking 5 or 6 wins is optimistic. if snyder can't win 5 or 6 games next year it'll be a spectacular failure.
What do you base this on? Seriously.
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lol at thinking 5 or 6 wins is optimistic. if snyder can't win 5 or 6 games next year it'll be a spectacular failure.
What do you base this on? Seriously.
QFT
He inherited a low-talent team that won 10 games in two years and just lost its best player.
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6 wins would be a miracle imo.
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How many wins are you expecting? Which games? Seriously.
3 non cons. isu,cu,a&m
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How many wins are you expecting? Which games? Seriously.
3 non cons. isu,cu,a&m
I don't think that's completely out of wack. But I will say CU and aTm will have a "head start" on progress in their programs. You'd hope we could manage wins in those with being in Manhattan, but who knows.
I think we'll have a little better feel after this saturday, but spring games only say so much. Plus we will be counting on help at several positions with new arrivals in the fall.
Really, looking at what I suspect we have in place and the rebuilding Snyder is trying to do, only the two 1-AAs and perhaps one of the 3 Big 12 home games I would count as "sure wins" at this point. I'd even put at La-La as a game we could possibly lose. I just think its hard to say where we are and where Snyder can take us with what we have in place. And if things go bad in those early games; say a loss to La-La and or to ISU, then things get pretty sketchy. Snyder could easily lose some of the Prince holdovers if things don't work out well.
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If we go 3-1 in non-con I will be really :ksu:
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Winning all six of those games would be quite the accomplishment.The days of assuming we'll win our games against the poor/mediocre teams are over. I think it's far more likely that we win 2 non con, and 2 conference.
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lol at thinking 5 or 6 wins is optimistic. if snyder can't win 5 or 6 games next year it'll be a spectacular failure.
What do you base this on? Seriously.
QFT
He inherited a low-talent team that won 10 games in two years and just lost its best player.
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26 points/game <------ thats how many points we lost by (on average) to Tech, OU, uk, MU and nubb last year. We were a bad bad team last year - don't ever forget that. Thats A LOT of fundamentals to teach/coach up.
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If we go 3-1 in non-con I will be really :ksu:
prince beat la-laf right? the worst coach in the nation can do it but the greatest coach in the history of the game can't do it? wow. expectations lowering is being pushed to new limits around here. same worst coach in the history of the game smashed a&m in college station and almost beat the buffs in Boulder w/ an easy W over ISU.
am i hearing those feats can't be bettered by the greatest coach in the history of the game?
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How many wins are you expecting? Which games? Seriously.
3 non cons. isu,cu,a&m
I don't think that's completely out of wack. But I will say CU and aTm will have a "head start" on progress in their programs. You'd hope we could manage wins in those with being in Manhattan, but who knows.
I think we'll have a little better feel after this saturday, but spring games only say so much. Plus we will be counting on help at several positions with new arrivals in the fall.
Really, looking at what I suspect we have in place and the rebuilding Snyder is trying to do, only the two 1-AAs and perhaps one of the 3 Big 12 home games I would count as "sure wins" at this point. I'd even put at La-La as a game we could possibly lose. I just think its hard to say where we are and where Snyder can take us with what we have in place. And if things go bad in those early games; say a loss to La-La and or to ISU, then things get pretty sketchy. Snyder could easily lose some of the Prince holdovers if things don't work out well.
if snyder loses to the clones he should be fired immediately
and spring games tell us nothing
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If we go 3-1 in non-con I will be really :ksu:
prince beat la-laf right? the worst coach in the nation can do it but the greatest coach in the history of the game can't do it? wow. expectations lowering is being pushed to new limits around here. same worst coach in the history of the game smashed a&m in college station and almost beat the buffs in Boulder w/ an easy W over ISU.
am i hearing those feats can't be bettered by the greatest coach in the history of the game?
Barely. And you go on the road to a place like that having one of the biggest games at home in their history and weird things can happen.
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If we go 3-1 in non-con I will be really :ksu:
prince beat la-laf right? the worst coach in the nation can do it but the greatest coach in the history of the game can't do it? wow. expectations lowering is being pushed to new limits around here. same worst coach in the history of the game smashed a&m in college station and almost beat the buffs in Boulder w/ an easy W over ISU.
am i hearing those feats can't be bettered by the greatest coach in the history of the game?
Barely. And you go on the road to a place like that having one of the biggest games at home in their history and weird things can happen.
We also had more talent last year than this year. I will be extremely :ksu: if we pull it off. Ceveland State'esque imo.
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Wow, you guys are horrible. I'm no sunshine pumper but maybe I'm just used to being around people who are excited about next season. i just figured I would come over here to post some info about the team and talk about football.
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Wow, you guys are horrible. I'm no sunshine pumper but maybe I'm just used to being around people who are excited about next season. i just figured I would come over here to post some info about the team and talk about football.
Who said some of us aren't excited about the season? Yeah, there is plenty of sarcastic pessimism here, but I'm still ready to see what happens and look forward to the season. I just think there are lots of things to overcome and am trying to go into next year with realistic expectations.
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Opening line for KSU @ LaLa? I'm guessing it opens a push and early money moves it to -1.5 for LaLa.
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Opening line for KSU @ LaLa? I'm guessing it opens a push and early money moves it to -1.5 for LaLa.
chat room should be amazing for that game.
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Opening line for KSU @ LaLa? I'm guessing it opens a push and early money moves it to -1.5 for LaLa.
chat room should be amazing for that game.
agreed
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I'm always excited for football, and would love for the team to drastically improve. But, like FAN, you have to be realistic. A turd is a turd, no matter how much OB'z spit shines it.
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I don't see us just dumping Snyder off before the end of the five year contract after all he has done for us.
And how loyal he has been. :'(
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reality is we are paying a legendary coach $1.8 million. he should be able to beat the la-laf's and isu's of the world ... easily
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I don't see us just dumping Snyder off before the end of the five year contract after all he has done for us.
And how loyal he has been. :'(
loyal to who? the program or his assistant coaches? he dumped the program on its ass w no warning 4 years ago.
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Wow, you guys are horrible. I'm no sunshine pumper but maybe I'm just used to being around people who are excited about next season. i just figured I would come over here to post some info about the team and talk about football.
I think most of us outside GPC are expressing as much optimism about next season as HOFCWCBS. There's a difference between looking forward to the season and being optimistic about the season.
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I'm looking forward to the tard reaction when we get slaughtered by ku and mu and lose to mizzou.
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I'm looking forward to the tard reaction when we get slaughtered by ku and mu and lose to mizzou.
and then we'll get slaughtered by UCLA and lose to UCLA
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nu, typo. good catch.