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Title: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: hillwalking03 on April 22, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
Dreamliner 1, bitchez.

(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/assets_c/2009/04/ZA001-redbeacon-thumb-560x756.jpg)
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on April 22, 2009, 08:53:41 AM
Right on time?
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 22, 2009, 08:57:38 AM
what is it
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: hillwalking03 on April 22, 2009, 09:05:44 AM
what is it

The first 787 is completing flight line gauntlet testing in prep for first flight.  This is the first photo of it with its systems powered on.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2009, 09:13:10 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: hillwalking03 on April 22, 2009, 09:16:57 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on April 22, 2009, 09:19:58 AM
what is it

The first 787 is completing flight line gauntlet testing in prep for first flight.  This is the first photo of it with its systems powered on.

more pics.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: hillwalking03 on April 22, 2009, 09:22:19 AM
(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/assets_c/2009/04/Dreamliner%20Composite%201_1000-thumb-560x281.jpg)

"Consummate airplane spotter Liz Matzelle somehow managed to squeeze out a really neat composite photo through the open cracks of Building 40-24 this morning. The result of her largely inexplicable photography efforts are above. You can "clearly" see ZA001 in Building 40-24, which will be jacked up off of its landing gear for today's swing tests."
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2009, 10:10:42 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: hillwalking03 on April 22, 2009, 10:14:12 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

Close.  It's coming in pieces from suppliers all over the world, but it's being put together in Everette, Washington.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: JTKSU on April 22, 2009, 10:29:28 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

I think Spirit (Wichita) is providing the noses and fuselages. Plenty of work to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.  Spirit (Tulsa) is supplying the leading edges of the wings.   That plane has work contracted out to like 15 different countries.  Would have been nice to have it built entirely in the US.  Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: CatsNChiefs on April 22, 2009, 10:57:57 AM
Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.

Globalization dude, welcome to the 90's.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: Lurker on April 22, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
Anyone else ever taken a tour of the Boeing plant in Everett? Its amazing, they take you right to the middle of the 747 assembely floor.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 22, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
Anyone else ever taken a tour of the Boeing plant in Everett? Its amazing, they take you right to the middle of the 747 assembely floor.

no but i used to live 30 mins from there.

i know, worthless, but i had to post it
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: dmartin on April 22, 2009, 03:17:08 PM
Anyone else ever taken a tour of the Boeing plant in Everett? Its amazing, they take you right to the middle of the 747 assembely floor.

yep, been there.  interesting tour.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 22, 2009, 07:41:18 PM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

I think Spirit (Wichita) is providing the noses and fuselages. Plenty of work to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.  Spirit (Tulsa) is supplying the leading edges of the wings.   That plane has work contracted out to like 15 different countries.  Would have been nice to have it built entirely in the US.  Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.

Wichita only does the nose cone; Can't remember where the fuselage section is done.   



I can't believe someone put photos of the 787 online that aren't "officially" released... Boeing's been pretty testy about anything to do with the 787 hitting public and they aren't afraid to push people around.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 22, 2009, 07:45:53 PM
The 787 wouldn't really qualify as plenty of work to keep the plant "busy"  It may bring in more than it's fair share of $$, but not as many people working that program as others.   Believe it or not, the 737 is the prob. the most important for Spirit Wichita.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: kougar24 on April 22, 2009, 08:24:52 PM
So is this going to be the new "standard" in the air, or what? This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2009, 08:28:12 PM
some of its parts are constructed with carbon fiber.  this very fact alone makes it elite.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 22, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
some of its parts are constructed with carbon fiber.  this very fact alone makes it elite.

Damn near the entire plane is composite.   Supposed to be the most fuel effecient plane ever.  Exciting stuff.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2009, 08:58:41 PM
some of its parts are constructed with carbon fiber.  this very fact alone makes it elite.

Damn near the entire plane is composite.   Supposed to be the most fuel effecient plane ever.  Exciting stuff.
i can't even bring myself to buy carbon handlebars for my mtn bike, craps expensive
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: JTKSU on April 23, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

I think Spirit (Wichita) is providing the noses and fuselages. Plenty of work to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.  Spirit (Tulsa) is supplying the leading edges of the wings.   That plane has work contracted out to like 15 different countries.  Would have been nice to have it built entirely in the US.  Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.

Wichita only does the nose cone; Can't remember where the fuselage section is done.   



I can't believe someone put photos of the 787 online that aren't "officially" released... Boeing's been pretty testy about anything to do with the 787 hitting public and they aren't afraid to push people around.

Spirit AeroSystems, the former Wichita Div. of Boeing that is now an independent non-OEM designer and manufacturer of aerostructures, expects to complete the first composite Section 41 forward fuselage of a 787 Dreamliner by late this month and deliver it to Boeing's final assembly facility in Everett, Wash.

I guess maybe they're calling the nose section a forward fuselage section? :dunno:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/VIDDRE.xml&headline=Spirit%20Completes%20First%20787%20Fuselage
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: JTKSU on April 23, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
some of its parts are constructed with carbon fiber.  this very fact alone makes it elite.

Damn near the entire plane is composite.   Supposed to be the most fuel effecient plane ever.  Exciting stuff.

50%.  Still pretty cool though.

The 787 will have 50% of its primary structure--including the fuselage and wings--made of lightweight composites.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/VIDDRE.xml&headline=Spirit%20Completes%20First%20787%20Fuselage
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 24, 2009, 12:23:14 AM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

I think Spirit (Wichita) is providing the noses and fuselages. Plenty of work to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.  Spirit (Tulsa) is supplying the leading edges of the wings.   That plane has work contracted out to like 15 different countries.  Would have been nice to have it built entirely in the US.  Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.

Wichita only does the nose cone; Can't remember where the fuselage section is done.   



I can't believe someone put photos of the 787 online that aren't "officially" released... Boeing's been pretty testy about anything to do with the 787 hitting public and they aren't afraid to push people around.

Spirit AeroSystems, the former Wichita Div. of Boeing that is now an independent non-OEM designer and manufacturer of aerostructures, expects to complete the first composite Section 41 forward fuselage of a 787 Dreamliner by late this month and deliver it to Boeing's final assembly facility in Everett, Wash.

I guess maybe they're calling the nose section a forward fuselage section? :dunno:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/VIDDRE.xml&headline=Spirit%20Completes%20First%20787%20Fuselage

Trust me.   Spirit Wichita does not make the entire fuselage... Just the Nose cone up until about that first antennae coming out the top in the above photo.
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: JTKSU on April 24, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
the thing is gonna blow the 380 outta the water.  or air.  LMAO.   :lol:

Mad props to the folks at Spirit in Wichita.  They have been on top of their game, and one of Boeing's best suppliers in this project.  Fuselage sections are shipping more complete than almost any other part. 

aren't they assembling this thing in pieces all over the world and putting it all together in the 'ta?

I think Spirit (Wichita) is providing the noses and fuselages. Plenty of work to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.  Spirit (Tulsa) is supplying the leading edges of the wings.   That plane has work contracted out to like 15 different countries.  Would have been nice to have it built entirely in the US.  Can't imagine how it's cost effective to bring in parts from Sweden, Japan, France, India, Korea, etc.

Wichita only does the nose cone; Can't remember where the fuselage section is done.   



I can't believe someone put photos of the 787 online that aren't "officially" released... Boeing's been pretty testy about anything to do with the 787 hitting public and they aren't afraid to push people around.

Spirit AeroSystems, the former Wichita Div. of Boeing that is now an independent non-OEM designer and manufacturer of aerostructures, expects to complete the first composite Section 41 forward fuselage of a 787 Dreamliner by late this month and deliver it to Boeing's final assembly facility in Everett, Wash.

I guess maybe they're calling the nose section a forward fuselage section? :dunno:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/VIDDRE.xml&headline=Spirit%20Completes%20First%20787%20Fuselage

Trust me.   Spirit Wichita does not make the entire fuselage... Just the Nose cone up until about that first antennae coming out the top in the above photo.

I wasn't saying you were incorrect, I was more questioning articles that I have read stating that Spirit is making forward fuselage section as well as the cones.  I have no experience building planes the size of a Dreamliner, but I would assume the forward cabin/fuselage/aft cabin differentiations would be similar to other planes?  Maybe that is what is causing the discrepancies we are discussing?
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 24, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
I know; but when the term Fuselage is brought up; people think it's the entire body of the aircraft when Spirit wichita only makes the front 1/3 of the fuselage.   Nose cone probably isn't the best term for it because it makes you think it's a relatively small section, but below is exactly what portion of fuselage Spirit Wichita is responsible for.


(http://www.ostrower.com/jon/s41zy9997ln4.jpg)
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: JTKSU on April 24, 2009, 10:22:08 PM
I know; but when the term Fuselage is brought up; people think it's the entire body of the aircraft when Spirit wichita only makes the front 1/3 of the fuselage.   Nose cone probably isn't the best term for it because it makes you think it's a relatively small section, but below is exactly what portion of fuselage Spirit Wichita is responsible for.


(http://www.ostrower.com/jon/s41zy9997ln4.jpg)

That's exactly what I think of in terms of nose cone.  Good pic BTW.  But if that's all they're building, that isn't 1/3 of the fuselage.  That only the cone.  I really don't have any idea what they are actually building and I keep hearing different variations; between the radio, paper, and TV here in Wichita.  I'm only being curious dude, I'm not trying to act like you don't know what you're talking about.  (Lord knows I don't.)  I apologize if I seemed like that.


*edit-  Weird, the pic is different now. 
Title: Re: ZOMG!!!! It's alive!!!!
Post by: FBWillie on April 25, 2009, 11:35:34 AM
I changed the pic because the one during the unveiling cermony wasn't a real fuselage and the second pic is and there is a huge size difference.   FWIW, you're too defensive and you're taking things personally when you shouldn't.  But anyway, EMAW.
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Post by: Pike on April 25, 2009, 01:17:54 PM
Damn, you people sure know a lot about planes. Very high aviation IQ.