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Title: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 24, 2009, 12:31:21 AM
How safe are torrents?

I have friends who say they have downloaded tons of stuff with no problems, but idk. Seems risky.

Would like to use them but I'm  :ohno: about getting lots of spyware/trojans/other bad internet stuff

Anyone used them before? Are they legit?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 24, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
thanks for all your help doods.  :frown:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: RonLongshaft on March 24, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
not a clue man, would help if i could.

I just figured out a couple weeks ago this thing is more than a solitaire machine and fancy typewriter
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: ew2x4 on March 24, 2009, 05:15:51 PM
They're safe depending on where, how and what you download.

What will you be using them for?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: TAFNA Dude on March 24, 2009, 06:17:28 PM
They're safe depending on where, how and what you download.

What will you be using them for?
Pretty much.

Stick to websites that require you to log in, like demonoid or torrentbytes.net.  These are all pretty safe.

Isohunt, Piratebay, btjunkie...all very dangerous.  Lots of antipiracy groups that record information of people who are downloading/seeding on those three specifically.  Many of them will turn you in to your ISP.  Most of them just ignore those groups, but Cox doesn't.  Cox will shut your internet off every time they catch you.  Third time they catch you they won't turn it back on.

That's pretty much as severe as the penalties get though if you're just downloading.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 24, 2009, 06:33:23 PM
Pretty much only using it for music. Maybe a sweet program every once in a while.

And I don't have COX, so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the help.

Anyone know any torrent program thingys that work on a mac?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: mcmwcat on March 25, 2009, 02:14:31 PM
hbo had cox shut down my internet connection for downloading entourage.  would call them up after deleting the file and they would start it back up no prob.  basically move the files from the place you downloaded them to and don't share them.  you should be fine.

it's blocked at work but i think this is the site where i always start: http://torrentz.com/

if you download a file and it asks for a password.  you more than likely didn't want that file in the first place.  read comments before downloading to get an idea of if it's a good file.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2009, 02:20:27 PM
hbo had cox shut down my internet connection for downloading entourage.  would call them up after deleting the file and they would start it back up no prob.  basically move the files from the place you downloaded them to and don't share them.  you should be fine.

it's blocked at work but i think this is the site where i always start: http://torrentz.com/

if you download a file and it asks for a password.  you more than likely didn't want that file in the first place.  read comments before downloading to get an idea of if it's a good file.

Has nothing to do with if you keep the file or move it or trash it.  It's all about the traffic on the line.  Once it is through they could care less if you have it on your computer or not.  Cox is not the sole culprit either.  All major carriers are in bed with the RIAA/MPIAA.  Use Peerguardian while downloading.  Don't seed once download is complete (unless it's something I want).  Someone I know has downloaded tons, TONS, of movies, tv shows, music, programs, etc. and nothing has ever happened.  Piratebay is all they ever use.  It has reviews from people that have downloaded the same file below each link that say if it is quality/safe/etc. 
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: mcmwcat on March 25, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
hbo had cox shut down my internet connection for downloading entourage.  would call them up after deleting the file and they would start it back up no prob.  basically move the files from the place you downloaded them to and don't share them.  you should be fine.

it's blocked at work but i think this is the site where i always start: http://torrentz.com/

if you download a file and it asks for a password.  you more than likely didn't want that file in the first place.  read comments before downloading to get an idea of if it's a good file.

Has nothing to do with if you keep the file or move it or trash it.  It's all about the traffic on the line.  Once it is through they could care less if you have it on your computer or not.  Cox is not the sole culprit either.  All major carriers are in bed with the RIAA/MPIAA.  Use Peerguardian while downloading.  Don't seed once download is complete (unless it's something I want).  Someone I know has downloaded tons, TONS, of movies, tv shows, music, programs, etc. and nothing has ever happened.  Piratebay is all they ever use.  It has reviews from people that have downloaded the same file below each link that say if it is quality/safe/etc. 

what he said. 

i like torrentz.com cuz it shows all the different sites you can go to.  i usually go to piratebay but sometimes they won't have what i'm looking for.  torrentz list all the torrent sites available for the torrent you are searching for.  seedpeer.com is ugly but gets the job done and is usually the one i select if piratebay isn't available.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: WillieWannabe on March 25, 2009, 02:31:19 PM
I agree with everything that has been said. Torrents are a lot safer than using Limewire IMO. Just be smart. If you are looking to download a movie (750 MB) and it says the file size is 165 KB, you obviously know that it is a virus. I've rarely had any trouble with infected movies....its always been programs and cracked serial keys...watch out for those and have a good antivirus/malware program ready.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: cireksu on March 25, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
i always thought it was people sharing and not downloading who got busted?  urban legend?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: TAFNA Dude on March 25, 2009, 06:27:55 PM
i always thought it was people sharing and not downloading who got busted?  urban legend?
People who are seeding are def the most targeted.  But I've had friends who have been 'busted' (aka internet shut off for a few hours) for downloading alone.

SD is right on about peerguardian.  It will prevent a LOT of unfriendly IP addresses from obtaining information about what you're transferring.

Using forced encryption(utorrent) and randomized ports will keep your ISP off your back.

If you use peerguardian, forced encryption, and stick to members only sites, you basically have nothing to worry about.  Would still stay away from piratebay though..especially considering the lawsuits lately..
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on March 25, 2009, 07:52:50 PM
Pretty much only using it for music. Maybe a sweet program every once in a while.

And I don't have COX, so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the help.

Anyone know any torrent program thingys that work on a mac?

Music is by FAR the biggest risk in downloading

As for demonoid half the stuff on there is from public trackers anyway, which ruins the whole point of running a private site
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Bookcat on March 25, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Have a MAC and use Vuze to download old movies without any trouble. I stay away from the new releases and buy them if I like them. Like Role Models for example.


Some older movies I didn't have but wanted to watch as an .AVI was Rounders and Boondock Saints. Great flicks.

I stay away from all new music releases. Just buy it if you like it. $10 for an album of an artist you really like is worth it imho. If you want something oldschool and you don't know of anyone who has the .mp3's THEN YOU NEED MORE GEEK FRIENDS.

With most torrents....get on the thing, get what you need, log off and don't seed. Otherwise, its always going to be somewhat of a risk to download anything as anyone can see your IP address, even with a fancy firewall and cloaking software.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on March 25, 2009, 10:59:06 PM
Have a MAC and use Vuze to download old movies without any trouble. I stay away from the new releases and buy them if I like them. Like Role Models for example.


Some older movies I didn't have but wanted to watch as an .AVI was Rounders and Boondock Saints. Great flicks.

I stay away from all new music releases. Just buy it if you like it. $10 for an album of an artist you really like is worth it imho. If you want something oldschool and you don't know of anyone who has the .mp3's THEN YOU NEED MORE GEEK FRIENDS.

With most torrents....get on the thing, get what you need, log off and don't seed. Otherwise, its always going to be somewhat of a risk to download anything as anyone can see your IP address, even with a fancy firewall and cloaking software.

Most private trackers you have to seed.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: dr00d on March 25, 2009, 11:02:27 PM
Have a MAC and use Vuze to download old movies without any trouble. I stay away from the new releases and buy them if I like them. Like Role Models for example.


Some older movies I didn't have but wanted to watch as an .AVI was Rounders and Boondock Saints. Great flicks.

I stay away from all new music releases. Just buy it if you like it. $10 for an album of an artist you really like is worth it imho. If you want something oldschool and you don't know of anyone who has the .mp3's THEN YOU NEED MORE GEEK FRIENDS.

With most torrents....get on the thing, get what you need, log off and don't seed. Otherwise, its always going to be somewhat of a risk to download anything as anyone can see your IP address, even with a fancy firewall and cloaking software.

IP is universal..you might be able to be less spied on w/ a mac only tracker, but it won't save you if someone spots you on there and writes down the IP.  Other than that, you are right on ;)
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 26, 2009, 03:01:05 PM
Pretty much only using it for music. Maybe a sweet program every once in a while.

And I don't have COX, so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the help.

Anyone know any torrent program thingys that work on a mac?

Music is by FAR the biggest risk in downloading

As for demonoid half the stuff on there is from public trackers anyway, which ruins the whole point of running a private site

 :runaway:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on March 26, 2009, 03:31:38 PM
download opera for mac then use piratebay your transfers will show up through opera then after you are done downloading you can stop sharing the files. stop being such a vag and start downloading already.
also when using TPB the doodz with skulls by there names are usually the safest. you'll figure out what files are safe though by reading comments etc.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 26, 2009, 03:48:37 PM
download opera for mac then use piratebay your transfers will show up through opera then after you are done downloading you can stop sharing the files. stop being such a vag and start downloading already.
also when using TPB the doodz with skulls by there names are usually the safest. you'll figure out what files are safe though by reading comments etc.

This vag doesn't want million of trojans traipsing around his computer. So suck it.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on March 26, 2009, 03:49:42 PM
And what do you mean by Opera for Mac... the web browser?  :confused:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on March 26, 2009, 03:50:28 PM
And what do you mean by Opera for Mac... the web browser?  :confused:
yes, just makes downloading easy imo.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: big e z on August 10, 2009, 10:31:38 AM
sorry for bringing up an old thread. I've been using mininova and piratebay for my dl's, I want to give demonoid a shot. If anyone that is using demonoid could PM me an invitation code, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2009, 10:36:16 AM
demonoid

I thought they got in troubs and shut down?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: big e z on August 10, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
their sites still up as of now, at least the registration page. I did read an article that said something about them being shut down in the Holland or something, but I think they are hq'ed out of Canada now.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Duncan on August 10, 2009, 11:15:48 AM
piratebay is pulling a napster pretty soon.  were raided by the police, put on trial, and owners sentenced to jail.  were bought out by another company and plan to turn into a legit media buying website.  someone will have to pick up the slack, I think piratebay hosted like 90% of the torrent trackers out there.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on August 10, 2009, 02:09:10 PM
not as user friendly as piratebay and you have to register but tehparadox is a pretty good site. yes it is tehparadox not a typo.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Bookcat on August 10, 2009, 11:02:06 PM
could someone send me an invitation code to demonoid via PM?

Thanks.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on August 10, 2009, 11:11:03 PM
I use torrent-damage.net

I don't seed enough to get to send invites though  :blindfold:

Kinda just the bare minimum.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on August 11, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
I just always make sure there are a few comments posted already on the ones I download.

figure people would be all "watch out guise this is a virus" if it was a virus :dunno:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on August 11, 2009, 03:34:23 PM
I just always make sure there are a few comments posted already on the ones I download.

figure people would be all "watch out guise this is a virus" if it was a virus :dunno:
are you really answering your own question from a couple of months ago?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on August 11, 2009, 10:27:06 PM
Getting a virus is essentially a non-issue if you realize that the "Dark Knight Blu-Ray" torrent isn't a 10mb .exe file

Really, other than private trackers which still aren't guaranteed safe, there is nothing you can do, because to the RIAA and MPAA programs like peerguardian are absolutely worthless.

Not downloading something that is really popular shortly after it comes out is smart.  Also, try and know who keeps a close eye out and who doesn't - Microsoft for example doesn't want you to download Windows, but they would rather you pirate their software than use somebody else's software.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on August 12, 2009, 09:38:24 PM
I just always make sure there are a few comments posted already on the ones I download.

figure people would be all "watch out guise this is a virus" if it was a virus :dunno:
are you really answering your own question from a couple of months ago?

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Title: Re: torrents
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on August 12, 2009, 11:54:19 PM
finally got a demonoid invite, its everything you could imagine and then some in there. :gocho:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2009, 07:31:04 AM
http://lifehacker.com/5332637/peerblock-protects-your-downloading-privacy-from-prying-eyes

http://lifehacker.com/372633/protect-your-privacy-when-downloading
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on August 13, 2009, 08:40:47 AM
Would worship someone forever if I got an invite code.  :)
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Bookcat on August 16, 2009, 07:23:29 AM
finally got a demonoid invite, its everything you could imagine and then some in there. :gocho:

send one to me and I'd be forever thankful.  :kstatriot:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on August 16, 2009, 09:03:08 AM
http://lifehacker.com/5332637/peerblock-protects-your-downloading-privacy-from-prying-eyes

http://lifehacker.com/372633/protect-your-privacy-when-downloading

Peerguardian 2 does NOTHING.  I expect much of the same from this software.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Bookcat on August 31, 2009, 04:13:41 PM
does anyone on here have a demonoid account?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on September 01, 2009, 12:45:42 AM
does anyone on here have a demonoid account?

and if you do send me an invite.  :hope:  :pray:
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: icatmember on September 01, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
So is demonoid really that great? Seems pretty ok, but nowhere near as cool as the more secret ones like waffle.fm. Would much rather have an invite from one of those. But that may be because I already have a demonoid account from when they had open registration for a weekend.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Skydog on September 01, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
So is demonoid really that great? Seems pretty ok, but nowhere near as cool as the more secret ones like waffle.fm. Would much rather have an invite from one of those. But that may be because I already have a demonoid account from when they had open registration for a weekend.
want to give me a registration code?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: big e z on September 01, 2009, 02:38:08 PM
Add me to the list of those looking for a demonoid invite. I tried "tehparadox" as was suggested, and I find dl'ing from mininova and TPB is easier. Maybe I'll get used to it (tehparadox), but until I can get on to demonoid, I'll probably just stick with those two.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: WillieWannabe on September 01, 2009, 02:43:18 PM
finally got a demonoid invite, its everything you could imagine and then some in there. :gocho:

What is it about Demonoid that makes it so great? Speeds? Variety? Naked chicks?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: goldenticket on September 01, 2009, 05:22:06 PM
So is demonoid really that great? Seems pretty ok, but nowhere near as cool as the more secret ones like waffle.fm. Would much rather have an invite from one of those. But that may be because I already have a demonoid account from when they had open registration for a weekend.

demonoid is solid it has a lot of members and a lot of different stuff so it castes a wide net. waffles is best for music but demonoid is nice sometimes to grab on old tv show or movie. im a member of a few more private sites that are better depending on what you are looking for but i use demonoid. icatmember send me a pm with your name over at demonoid and if you ratio is good i will invite you to waffles.

for those out there that want to join torrent sites you gotta share what you download they all work on ratio. so if you delete them from your computer too soon and thus you cant share you ratio will be low and you will be kicked out. i always leave my computer on and seed all the time. its not hard to have a good ratio just download the popular tv shows or movies and build up some credit in your favor before you go for that thing that has a few seeders and is huge in filesize. so if you ratio is 1 that means you shared (seeded) a torrent as much as it cost you to download it. for music i just let them seed forever since they are small but films or tv shows ill will always wait until i pass 1 before i delete and will usually seed more depending on the situation. my ratio is around 2 on the sites i use

if you dont want to mess with torrents (although its super easy) and just want music use google blog search and type the band and or album and there is prob some blog out there giving it away

the torrent program i use (im on a mac) is called vuze but use to be called azureus its good. do a search on google to download it for free

i can invite other wildcat fans to demonoid just pm me. demonoid doesnt tell me how many invites i have it just says i have a limited amount. so i will try to bring as many of you as i can in

Title: Re: torrents
Post by: Bookcat on September 01, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
finally got a demonoid invite, its everything you could imagine and then some in there. :gocho:

What is it about Demonoid that makes it so great? Speeds? Variety? Naked chicks?

think of it is a private torrent geek convention...makes ISP hacking and spying much more difficult for third parties...but not impossible.
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on September 01, 2009, 09:41:36 PM
What is the required DL ratio for demonoid?
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: goldenticket on September 01, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
i dont think there is a limit on demonoid you have to keep but on others they will say keep it about such and such or you will be banned. but its not hard to keep a good ratio
Title: Re: torrents
Post by: hemmy on September 02, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Yes,  I know how private trackers work.  You get better dl'd speeds with a required min. ratio

I use torrent-damage.net, they have .5 requirement