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Title: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 07, 2006, 11:22:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCDCDV6JvDU&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: waks on October 07, 2006, 04:07:38 PM
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                                :crybaby: it was awful, just awful :crybaby:
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 09, 2006, 03:44:26 PM
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                                :crybaby: it was awful, just awful :crybaby:

you suck at opinions.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: michigancat on October 09, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
IMO, 95% of "indie rock" absolutely blows.

Cyhsy fall under the "blows" category.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 09, 2006, 04:28:57 PM
IMO, 95% of "indie rock" absolutely blows.

Cyhsy fall under the "blows" category.

DAMN!

I like maybe 10% of indie:

like:  chsy, ok go, bright eyes, killers, gnarls, modest mouse, iron & wine, pixies, alkaline trio etc.

HATE:  my chemical romance, keane, blue october, snow patrol,  all-american rejects, and "we're going down, down doobie doobie doo-aaaaaa and sugar we're goin down swingin!" :banghead:
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 09, 2006, 04:34:07 PM
pavement is good
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 09, 2006, 04:35:49 PM
pavement is good

dry yer eyes mate, I know its hard to take....

feck that.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: michigancat on October 09, 2006, 04:36:19 PM
I actually can't think of any indie rock bands I like off the top of my head...there's just a few songs here and there that are OK.

I guess I like Sufjan Stevens.

TV on the Radio is possibly the most overrated band in history.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: michigancat on October 09, 2006, 04:37:11 PM
Are Ween, the Flaming Lips, or Polyphonic Spree "indie rock"?

I like them, too.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 09, 2006, 04:41:55 PM
Are Ween, the Flaming Lips, or Polyphonic Spree "indie rock"?

I like them, too.

yes.  And I agree.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: pissclams on October 09, 2006, 06:56:17 PM
Anything on the radio, or about the radio, isn't Indie rock.
MTV = not Indie rock.
MTV2 = not Indie rock.
Anything sponsored by a radio station isn't Indie rock.

You might as well lump Pink and Lindsay Lohan in there with the Killers, if they're supposedly Indie.
I'm done with my rant.
I love the Flaming Lips.  They were indie rock back when indie rock wasn't sponsored by Mountain Dew and the Vans Warped tour. 
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: chum1 on October 09, 2006, 07:32:16 PM
I guess I like Sufjan Stevens.

<<<  Pictured here.

They're not great, but I like CYHSY pretty well.  And Arcade Fire.  I recommend Danielson's "Ships" to anyone--challenging but very rewarding. 

Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: michigancat on October 10, 2006, 08:50:39 AM
Anything on the radio, or about the radio, isn't Indie rock.
MTV = not Indie rock.
MTV2 = not Indie rock.
Anything sponsored by a radio station isn't Indie rock.

You might as well lump Pink and Lindsay Lohan in there with the Killers, if they're supposedly Indie.
I'm done with my rant.
I love the Flaming Lips.  They were indie rock back when indie rock wasn't sponsored by Mountain Dew and the Vans Warped tour. 

I was thinking about the kind of stuff that Pitchfork loves...Neutral Milk Hotel, TVOTR, CYHSY, Decemberists, etc.

I like Arcade Fire.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 10, 2006, 09:10:30 AM
Anything on the radio, or about the radio, isn't Indie rock.
MTV = not Indie rock.
MTV2 = not Indie rock.
Anything sponsored by a radio station isn't Indie rock.

You might as well lump Pink and Lindsay Lohan in there with the Killers, if they're supposedly Indie.
I'm done with my rant.
I love the Flaming Lips.  They were indie rock back when indie rock wasn't sponsored by Mountain Dew and the Vans Warped tour. 

I'm sorry but I hear this sort of thinking too much.  Maybe it is me caving to the reality of Lindsay lohan/Brittany Spears radio but to call them the same is disingenuous and stupid.  There IS a difference between Pink and The Killers.

How they came up, what they play, how they sound etc.  Actually, I give quite a bit of credit to Pink for doing music she wants to do.  In a world where P. Diddy makes up a band on a TV show, they suck horribly then STILL GET PLAYED on VH1, the Killers ARE INDIE.

Maybe the paradigm has shifted, but thinking like that is what made Krut Cobain commit suicide.  He laid a trap for himself.  He said anything commercial sucked and then suddenly tons of people liked his music.  Did that make him commercial?  No.  He still had cred and his music spoke for itself.

Rant over.  BTW:  I love the Flaming Lips too but they are in the same category as the Killers (and they've sold their music for advertising) so off the high horse, sir.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2006, 09:45:11 AM
Anything on the radio, or about the radio, isn't Indie rock.
MTV = not Indie rock.
MTV2 = not Indie rock.
Anything sponsored by a radio station isn't Indie rock.

You might as well lump Pink and Lindsay Lohan in there with the Killers, if they're supposedly Indie.
I'm done with my rant.
I love the Flaming Lips.  They were indie rock back when indie rock wasn't sponsored by Mountain Dew and the Vans Warped tour. 

I'm sorry but I hear this sort of thinking too much.  Maybe it is me caving to the reality of Lindsay lohan/Brittany Spears radio but to call them the same is disingenuous and stupid.  There IS a difference between Pink and The Killers.

How they came up, what they play, how they sound etc.  Actually, I give quite a bit of credit to Pink for doing music she wants to do.  In a world where P. Diddy makes up a band on a TV show, they suck horribly then STILL GET PLAYED on VH1, the Killers ARE INDIE.

Maybe the paradigm has shifted, but thinking like that is what made Krut Cobain commit suicide.  He laid a trap for himself.  He said anything commercial sucked and then suddenly tons of people liked his music.  Did that make him commercial?  No.  He still had cred and his music spoke for itself.

Rant over.  BTW:  I love the Flaming Lips too but they are in the same category as the Killers (and they've sold their music for advertising) so off the high horse, sir.

It's all subjective, I'm not on any high horse.
Maybe you hear it too much because it's true.
There certainly is a difference between Pink and the Killers.  Pink is only played once per hour on the radio, the Killers twice (three if we're lucky!!).  Indie rock, by definition, exists in the independant music subculture, I guess I get lost somehow when linking Viacom/MTV's Times Square offices with an independant music scene/subculture.

The Killers and their synthesized music just don't fit into the Indie Rock classification, in my opinion.
You can say what you want about the The Flaming Lips of today, in my earlier post I referenced them in the past, as in the early 90's when I was going to see them, and bands like Husker Du, and Bob Mould, and Dinosaur Jr at the Bottleneck.  Those bands, at that time, represented what independant music means to me, so when I hear someone say that the Killers are Indie, it doesn't click to me.  Again this is a subjective arguement, my definition obviously doesn't match yours.

Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: Kat Kid on October 10, 2006, 10:34:48 AM
Listen dude, I was there watching Ultimate Fakebook, The Touchdowns, Ruskabank, Podstar in Manhattan and it was cool for awhile but they all are gone.  The local music scene sucks and the stuff available on commercial radio is better.  Well, the radio stations in Manhattan suck (even 91.9 for the most part) but youtube.com/the internet has allowed for an explosion of access for the casual observer and thus the killers getting big etc.  (IMO).
 
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2006, 11:02:11 AM
I thought that, by definition, an indie band couldn't be on a major label.  Also, an important element to the indie scene is that its fans are elitists.  And you can't be a very good elitist if you have to share with a bunch of other people. 

The Killers are to indie rock what Green Day is to punk rock.  Both are primarily packaged for commercial consumption.

Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: slucat on October 10, 2006, 01:01:53 PM
Good point Chum, I must be older than I thought, I haven't heard of hardly any of the bands mentioned in this thread. Back in my day, I hung out listening to Zep, PF with some DMB thrown in for good measure.  I went to the Horde fest, it was a blast, the only semi-indie band that I liked that was there was Soul Coughing...

Did anyone listen to HUM back in the day?
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2006, 02:03:32 PM
Wow.  I forgot all about Hum.  I probably saw them five times. 

Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 10, 2006, 07:50:27 PM
LOL@This thread.
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2006, 08:16:24 PM
anything nostalgic.

"I want it that way", etc....

LOL@Fatty reminiscing about slow dancing to the Backstreet Boys in the Manhattan Middle School gym with Korean American honors student Sharon Kim.

Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2006, 09:09:47 PM
LOL @ Subdeb
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 10, 2006, 09:34:17 PM
More good ones:

Destinys Child-Indepent
Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On
TLC - unpretty
Eagle-Eye Cherry-Save Tonight


EDIT: Wrong thread (shucks)
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2006, 10:23:15 PM
LOL @ MORP
Title: Re: Clap your Hands and Say Yeah!
Post by: ksuno1stunner on October 12, 2006, 12:28:19 PM
TV on the Radio is possibly the most overrated band in history.

i love that band