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Title: Watchmen
Post by: Catmatt on March 06, 2009, 07:03:07 PM
I posted this on the other board but ...

I thought Watchmen was amazing. There were moments when I had chills, but then again, I happen to love the source material. Granted, the movie could not include everything from the graphic novel, and if you're unfamiliar with the GN you might struggle a bit to put the plot together, but I think it is more accessible and relevant than some of the more negative critics give it credit.

Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars, but he is a geek like me. I would give it 4 stars. It's not the GN, but it has the look and feel of the GN, and with only a few minor exceptions it stays pretty close to the story. Of course, there are a couple of discrepancies here and there, the ending change being the most glaring, but I was still overwhelmed, and I loved it.

Regarding the ending ... no, it's not the squid monster (which I think would have looked really cool on the big screen), but in the context of the story's many thematic issues, the ending creates a nice Christian allegory, even if it doesn't specifically address Christianity (if you want to know what I mean, PM me; I don't want to offer up spoilers here).

What else can I say? I'm glad it took them this long to get this film made. Had they made it in the late 1980s/early 1990s as they had once planned, with Terry Gilliam directing and Ah-nold as Dr. Manhattan (his performance as Mr. Freeze was enough to convince me this would not work), this film might very well be a dated P.O.S. like Tim Burton's Batman (which I loved once but which now looks awful next to The Dark Knight). As such, Watchmen is one of the best GN adaptations I have seen, just a hair below V For Vendetta, which is still my favorite.

If you're a comic book geek, check it out. If you haven't read the GN, if you liked V For Vendetta, and if you appreciated The Dark Knight for more than Heath Ledger's performance, check it out (but pay close attention).

I freaking loved this movie. I'm going to go see it again tomorrow night.

(Caveat: The violence is pretty heavy in places. If Catmatt thinks it's heavy, then trust me, it's heavy. I did, however, appreciate one lovely bit of Grand Guignol when Rorschach takes a meat cleaver goes to town on a pedophile/child murder--wicket stuff).
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: CrushNasty on March 06, 2009, 07:09:14 PM
 :sleep:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Perry on March 06, 2009, 07:34:14 PM
Nice, thorough review. I plan on watching it soon so I hope it lives up to my expectations (haven't read the GN, but I may at some point).
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: PCR on March 06, 2009, 07:41:15 PM
I want to see this.  I can't stand crowded theaters, though, so I may wait a while.   :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: hemmy on March 06, 2009, 08:41:12 PM
any nudity? (v. important)
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Catmatt on March 06, 2009, 08:47:40 PM
Oh yeah, nudity.  The chick who plays Silk Spectre II gets it on pretty hot and heavy with Night Owl II.  Intense sex scene, and she leaves her thigh-high boots on, which is sexy as hell.  Her teats are more mouthful than handful, but her backside is a lovely thing.

The actress who plays her mom gets stripped down to her bra and panties in a flashback to when she was young, and she looks pretty nice.  Of course, this is in an attempted rape scene, so it's not as exciting as ... well, maybe a little.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Thin Blue Line on March 06, 2009, 09:48:06 PM
So, where are you going for 6th grade spring break?
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: PCR on March 07, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
Oh yeah, nudity.  The chick who plays Silk Spectre II gets it on pretty hot and heavy with Night Owl II.  Intense sex scene, and she leaves her thigh-high boots on, which is sexy as hell.  Her teats are more mouthful than handful, but her backside is a lovely thing.

The actress who plays her mom gets stripped down to her bra and panties in a flashback to when she was young, and she looks pretty nice.  Of course, this is in an attempted rape scene, so it's not as exciting as ... well, maybe a little.

not creepy at all
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FBWillie on March 07, 2009, 11:32:37 PM
Never read the GN; thought this movie rocked ass.




That means I liked it.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Pete on March 08, 2009, 10:05:57 PM
Never read the GN; thought this movie rocked ass.




That means I liked it.

I too thought it rocked ass.  The Watchmen use to &@#% guys like the Dark Knight in prison.  That good.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: phicat1448 on March 08, 2009, 11:47:19 PM
any nudity? (v. important)

there was way too much blue dick in this movie to justify ANY female nudity
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FBWillie on March 09, 2009, 12:27:29 AM
any nudity? (v. important)

there was way too much blue dick in this movie to justify ANY female nudity

no crap.   and the fact that its blue makes it impossible to ignore.  Really, WTF? he can go rampaging through 'nam with a loin cloth the size of jupiter, but he can't find a &@#%ing towel while he's work'n in the lab? 
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Pete on March 09, 2009, 11:10:32 AM
any nudity? (v. important)

there was way too much blue dick in this movie to justify ANY female nudity

no crap.   and the fact that its blue makes it impossible to ignore.  Really, WTF? he can go rampaging through 'nam with a loin cloth the size of jupiter, but he can't find a fracking towel while he's work'n in the lab? 


I wasn't bothered by it.  More akin to an Italian sculpture than a real cock on screen.  Overall an awesome flic.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: WillieWannabe on March 09, 2009, 12:15:48 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ew2x4 on March 09, 2009, 12:19:37 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:

2H 45MIN.

It almost felt too short.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: WillieWannabe on March 09, 2009, 12:21:45 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:

2H 45MIN.

It almost felt too short.


Hell the Pirates movies were long as hell...That's not too bad. Specially if there are some boobies!  :dancin:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Catmatt on March 09, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:

Was this someone old enough to see an R-rated movie?  Or was he an old guy who really had to pee?  I've seen movies half the length of this flick that felt longer.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: WillieWannabe on March 09, 2009, 12:28:56 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:

Was this someone old enough to see an R-rated movie?  Or was he an old guy who really had to pee?  I've seen movies half the length of this flick that felt longer.

Someone barely old enough to see an R-rated movie...Good Call!  :thumbsup:

Apparently they don't like sweet action movies with tits....must be a ku fan  :ku:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FBWillie on March 09, 2009, 12:29:52 PM
How long of a movie is this? I heard someone say they thought it was never gonna end  :popcorn:

2H 45MIN.

It almost felt too short.

Agreed, I wish they would have expounded on the comedian & warshak characters.   I almost wish it would have been a Kill Bill like release with two 2.5 hour volumes; or like a miniseries of like 5 movies or something.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: catzacker on March 09, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
any nudity? (v. important)

there was way too much blue dick in this movie to justify ANY female nudity

no crap.   and the fact that its blue makes it impossible to ignore.  Really, WTF? he can go rampaging through 'nam with a loin cloth the size of jupiter, but he can't find a fracking towel while he's work'n in the lab? 


I wasn't bothered by it.  More akin to an Italian sculpture than a real cock on screen.  Overall an awesome flic.


ummm....blue cock?  I'm sold.  :love:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: hemmy on March 09, 2009, 10:16:39 PM
might go see this as a "hey hemmy good job on midterms" movie
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 09, 2009, 11:26:40 PM
So little interest in seeing this movie.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 10, 2009, 12:54:56 AM
any nudity? (v. important)

there was way too much blue dick in this movie to justify ANY female nudity

no crap.   and the fact that its blue makes it impossible to ignore.  Really, WTF? he can go rampaging through 'nam with a loin cloth the size of jupiter, but he can't find a fracking towel while he's work'n in the lab? 


I wasn't bothered by it.  More akin to an Italian sculpture than a real cock on screen.  Overall an awesome flic.


ummm....blue cock?  I'm sold.  :love:

our resident bird friends are  :jerkoff: about this... :barf:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: waks on March 10, 2009, 01:28:14 AM
Did not enjoy it. Thought it was boring, philosophical garbage that was far too long. The sound was cool. The violence was annoyingly graphic. Action scenes were entertaining. The best character, the Comedian, got the least amount of mention which was unfortunate. I cannot appreciate how close the movie stayed to the graphic novel because I have not read it. I plan on doing so which might change my opinion of the movie but I kind of doubt it. Also, Sin City is by far the best graphic novel adapted into a movie IMO. Anything else is a distant second.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 10, 2009, 07:43:41 AM
waks,

I saw your profile pic and immediately thought to myself.."I'm on a boat.'
Title: The Watchmen
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on March 14, 2009, 12:29:26 PM
It was pretty cool i guess.  Saw way too much of the blue dude's wiener though.  Also, there was this dude I was sitting a few seats over from that would laugh out loud at really inappropriate times.
Title: Re: The Watchmen
Post by: ew2x4 on March 14, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=38654.0
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: doom on March 14, 2009, 02:22:40 PM
So, where are you going for 6th grade spring break?

Top notch  :eyeseeyou:
Title: Re: The Watchmen
Post by: waks on March 14, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
You should post in the best shows on television thread. I'm pretty sure I could guess yours.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Thin Blue Line on March 14, 2009, 09:47:39 PM
So, where are you going for 6th grade spring break?

Top notch  :eyeseeyou:

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
who the f*ck reads all these stupid f*cking cartoon books, and why does every single one get made into a movie?  JFC.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Thin Blue Line on March 16, 2009, 12:39:47 PM
who the f*ck reads all these stupid f*cking cartoon books, and why does every single one get made into a movie?  JFC.

This more your speed?

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Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 16, 2009, 04:04:28 PM
What's the difference between a comic book and a "graphic novel"? 
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on March 16, 2009, 04:42:45 PM
What's the difference between a comic book and a "graphic novel"? 

I always assumed that "graphic novels" were longer, but I dunno.

Wasn't familiar with Watchmen before I saw the movie, but I caught on pretty quickly and enjoyed it.  It's a fun action/mystery type movie...nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: WillieWannabe on March 17, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
I've heard so many different opinions on this, i will prally rent it on netflix or something...
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ew2x4 on March 17, 2009, 04:23:20 PM
What's the difference between a comic book and a "graphic novel"? 

Graphic Novels can be longer, similar to a true "novel" or a collection of comic issues presented in one long format.

Lots of movies have been inspired by them. V for Vendetta, Road to Perdition, Dark Knight (inspired from), 30 Days of Night, Wanted, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Constantine, etc.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: kougar24 on March 17, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
Uh, Dark Knight the movie wasn't at ALL similar to the GN.

I wish I could take back the night I read both the Dark Knight and Watchmen GNs...not for me, man, not for me.

The Watchmen movie was okay I guess. Entertaining, stylish. If you go to the IMAX version, though, be prepared to get assaulted by noise. To a painful point.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: cireksu on March 17, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
What's the difference between a comic book and a "graphic novel"? 

Graphic Novels can be longer, similar to a true "novel" or a collection of comic issues presented in one long format.

Lots of movies have been inspired by them. V for Vendetta, Road to Perdition, Dark Knight (inspired from), 30 Days of Night, Wanted, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Constantine, etc.

road to perdition?  I can totally see that now.  30 days of night could have been so much better.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ew2x4 on March 17, 2009, 10:57:07 PM
Uh, Dark Knight the movie wasn't at ALL similar to the GN.

I wish I could take back the night I read both the Dark Knight and Watchmen GNs...not for me, man, not for me.

The Watchmen movie was okay I guess. Entertaining, stylish. If you go to the IMAX version, though, be prepared to get assaulted by noise. To a painful point.

Uh, there wasn't any one Dark Knight GN. It's story and style was inspired from a few different ones, even ones with "Dark Knight" in the title, but there wasn't a "Dark Knight" GN.

gosp- I loved the Road to Perdition film so I picked up the GN. It was one of the few that I have read. I liked the movie better. I've never seen 30 Days of Night.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: cireksu on March 17, 2009, 10:59:31 PM
30 days of night is awful.  I love those types of movies, hated that one.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Winters on March 17, 2009, 11:30:46 PM
who the f*ck reads all these stupid f*cking cartoon books, and why does every single one get made into a movie?  JFC.
I never even heard of watchmen until the movie came out.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: PCR on March 18, 2009, 03:19:30 AM
Uh, Dark Knight the movie wasn't at ALL similar to the GN.

I wish I could take back the night I read both the Dark Knight and Watchmen GNs...not for me, man, not for me.

The Watchmen movie was okay I guess. Entertaining, stylish. If you go to the IMAX version, though, be prepared to get assaulted by noise. To a painful point.

I hate overly loud crap, but I was thinking of going to the watchmen Imax.  Maybe I should just go to the regular version since I think the regular AMC already has the best sound I've ever heard in a theater. 
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FBWillie on March 19, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
never been to AMC....   Is it better than the Warren theatres in Wichita? 
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: waks on March 20, 2009, 01:32:09 AM
never been to AMC....   Is it better than the Warren theatres in Wichita? 
AMC is a chain so no, not likely.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: kougar24 on March 23, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Uh, there wasn't any one Dark Knight GN. It's story and style was inspired from a few different ones, even ones with "Dark Knight" in the title, but there wasn't a "Dark Knight" GN.

Which is the one where and old ballz Bruce Wayne beats up Superman and then fakes his own death at the end?

Horrible.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ew2x4 on March 23, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
Uh, there wasn't any one Dark Knight GN. It's story and style was inspired from a few different ones, even ones with "Dark Knight" in the title, but there wasn't a "Dark Knight" GN.

Which is the one where and old ballz Bruce Wayne beats up Superman and then fakes his own death at the end?

Horrible.

Dark Knight Returns, I believe? The Killing Joke supposedly inspired Dark Knight.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Catmatt on March 24, 2009, 06:09:29 PM
Uh, there wasn't any one Dark Knight GN. It's story and style was inspired from a few different ones, even ones with "Dark Knight" in the title, but there wasn't a "Dark Knight" GN.

Which is the one where and old ballz Bruce Wayne beats up Superman and then fakes his own death at the end?

Horrible.

Dude, I loved that GN.  Some great stuff there.