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Title: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Apparently, this is what the selection committee uses to evaluate teams.  bbstate.com is premium, but you can view some of the stuff, somehow.

Here is KSU's:

http://www.bbstate.com/schools/KSU/sheet

Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: RonLongshaft on February 24, 2009, 07:22:22 AM
don't look  that bad :dunno:
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: catzacker on February 24, 2009, 07:33:15 AM
we should just schedule idaho st, so miss, and oakland like 4 times each for our non con next year.  then play a couple of tough games and our rpi will magically be about 30 points better.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: ksu_FAN on February 24, 2009, 07:35:04 AM
Dropping. (http://www.nitology.com/bracket22409.html)  :'(
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: catzacker on February 24, 2009, 07:37:22 AM
Dropping. (http://www.nitology.com/bracket22409.html)  :'(

I like that draw....'Te could get a shot at Clemente'ing Gary. 
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: ksu_FAN on February 24, 2009, 07:53:58 AM
Dropping. (http://www.nitology.com/bracket22409.html)  :'(

I like that draw....'Te could get a shot at Clemente'ing Gary. 

Plus that first game would be a shot at NIT revenge!  We got your back Manny and Shawn!
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: steve dave on February 24, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Dropping. (http://www.nitology.com/bracket22409.html)  :'(

I like that draw....'Te could get a shot at Clemente'ing Gary. 

Yes, that would be magical  :love:
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: cireksu on February 24, 2009, 09:03:46 AM
This sucks, season that exceeds all expectations and we go to the NIT.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: thefridge on February 24, 2009, 09:19:56 AM
doesn't the tournament factor in how you're performing in the last month our so, or is that just something lunardi likes to say?
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: mcmwcat on February 24, 2009, 09:28:54 AM
This sucks, season that exceeds all expectations and we go to the NIT.

NIT is exceeding expectations
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: JTKSU on February 24, 2009, 09:30:58 AM
doesn't the tournament factor in how you're performing in the last month our so, or is that just something lunardi likes to say?

Seems like "last x-number of games" is a term that gets thrown around a lot.  But, for some reason, everyone seems more interested in the first half of our season this year. 
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: mcmwcat on February 24, 2009, 09:36:30 AM
doesn't the tournament factor in how you're performing in the last month our so, or is that just something lunardi likes to say?

Seems like "last x-number of games" is a term that gets thrown around a lot.  But, for some reason, everyone seems more interested in the first half of our season this year. 

who, jerkstore?  if that were true we wouldn't be in the discussion at all.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 24, 2009, 09:39:46 AM
NIT "matchup" jokes are not even close to being funny. f*ck you guys.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on February 24, 2009, 12:08:14 PM
looks to me like we are up against san diego state, and perhaps georgetown and notre dame

if we don't win out and get to the championship game of the big12 tourney... we are screwed :runaway:
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: JTKSU on February 24, 2009, 12:12:16 PM
doesn't the tournament factor in how you're performing in the last month our so, or is that just something lunardi likes to say?

Seems like "last x-number of games" is a term that gets thrown around a lot.  But, for some reason, everyone seems more interested in the first half of our season this year. 

who, jerkstore?  if that were true we wouldn't be in the discussion at all.

Are you saying that you haven't heard bracket analysts talk about last 12 games, or you haven't heard analysts talk our weak non-con?  Because, pretty sure you're wrong on both accounts.  And whats up with the jerkstore comment?
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: mcmwcat on February 24, 2009, 12:13:51 PM
to me there is a ton of interest in our last 10 games.  otherwise there would never be any mention of ksu making the tourney.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: kougar24 on February 24, 2009, 12:25:24 PM
This sucks, season that exceeds all expectations and we go to the NIT.

You're such a morose fellow.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: thefridge on February 24, 2009, 12:31:45 PM
looks to me like we are up against san diego state, and perhaps georgetown and notre dame

if we don't win out and get to the championship game of the big12 tourney... we are screwed :runaway:

at this point if georgetown doesn't win the big east championship, and gets in over us  :banghead:  :curse: :banghead: :curse: :confused:
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: Bullfn33 on February 24, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
I just don't see any logic in weighting the non-conference equally to what a team has evolved into by the end of the season. Hearing these analysts talk, that's exactly what they do with all of their non-conference RPI/SOS babble. How do you justify a team who tore through a good non-conference schedule in November and December but falls flat during their conference season, the most critical time of a team's evolution during a season. Why do they not weight the conference portion heavier than the non-conference?

For instance, Team A goes 12-2 through a pretty solid non-conference schedule but then goes 6-10 in league with no great wins. Which Team A do they expect will show up in March? There is a high probability that the 6-10 league play team is going to show up to their regional site in the NCAAs. The most current performances are almost always going to be the most accurate. They also don't consider that this team may have appeared to have a strong non-conference showing only after their decent wins turned into great wins when the teams they beat tear through their own conference seasons yet those teams were really still developing in the non-conference and no where near what they evolved into. Yet, Team A gets credit for beating that team as if they had played them at their peak in conference play.

The equal weighting just baffles me. If you're not playing your best ball from February through early March, I don't see why that team should be awarded for too much of anything they did in November or December to make up for it. Sure, the non-conference should be considered but equal weighting with all of these factors of teams developing or devolving is madness to try and give merits for so early in the season. This is where football gets it right and basketball fails in evaluating teams for the post-season.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: JTKSU on February 24, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
looks to me like we are up against san diego state, and perhaps georgetown and notre dame

if we don't win out and get to the championship game of the big12 tourney... we are screwed :runaway:

QFT.  SDSU doesn't worry me as much as ND and GT, who both have mediocre records, but lots of big wins.  I think our resume matches well with SDSU, just hope ND and GT continue their recent suckiness for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: hemmy on February 24, 2009, 07:55:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHoQVnlinQE :ohno:
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: KITNfury on February 24, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
They use the last X amount of games to help justify who they really want to put in. They'll ignore it if it hurts their cause. Pretty much the same w/ RPI.
Title: Re: KSU's NCAA tournament committee "selection sheet"
Post by: JTKSU on February 24, 2009, 10:04:28 PM
looks to me like we are up against san diego state, and perhaps georgetown and notre dame

if we don't win out and get to the championship game of the big12 tourney... we are screwed :runaway:

at this point if georgetown doesn't win the big east championship, and gets in over us  :banghead:  :curse: :banghead: :curse: :confused:

QFT.  I fully expect several fists to get stuck up our ass that day.  No lube.